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WTVG, "gaming" is discouraged and replaced with "games" or "video games" where possible.
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Support per nom. --
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Category:American animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters
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The result of the discussion was:keep. No consensus for deleting or merging at this time.
(non-admin closure)buidhe 19:00, 9 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:WP:NONDEF. "Cartoons with furry things in it" is borderline, but "American cartoons with furry things in it" isn't defining. The furry things look the same no matter the country of origin. Also
WP:NARROWCAT, pretty much a random intersection of characteristics. Finally,
WP:OCLOCATION: "In general, avoid subcategorizing subjects by geographical boundary if that boundary does not have any relevant bearing on the subjects' other characteristics." Sandstein 20:17, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, to begin with, if change is needed the category should be merged rather than deleted. But I fail to see why a well-populated category like this one should be merged in the first place. It would only make sense if the entire tree of
Category:Animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters would be nominated for deletion because featuring anthropomorphic characters is perhaps not a defining characteristic.
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Category:One-shot (comics)
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Nominator's rationale: Incorrect scope for the contents, and the original name was malformed anyway (should have been "Category:One-shot comics", since it is a category of comics not a category of "one-shot", which is not a
mass noun). As it now also includes a manga subcat, it needs to encompass that, too. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 15:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oposse Manga are comics. Moving it a plural would good, but adding "manga" is unneeded.
★Trekker (
talk) 15:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - this is a topic category for
One-shot (comics) and is correctly singular. It has subcats for individual comics and also for series (which are not 'one-shots', but related to
One-shot (comics)).
Oculi (
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Oppose - As Trekker said, "comics and manga" is redundant.--
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Category:Seats of local government
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Merge somehow -- This category should, like
Category:Seats of local government by country, be a container, with individual articles distributed to the appropriate country article. It may be appropriate to reverse merge and to rename the national categories to the form of the present article. However, this may need to be done selectively according to local usage. In England the Town Hall or City Hall is often a venue for musical and other performances, with local government being conducted from the Council House. Birmingham Town Hall is a venue, where the
City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra performed until
Symphony Hall, Birmingham was built. The main council offices are in Birmingham Council House, in part of a building that also houses
Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery.
Peterkingiron (
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@
Peterkingiron: how exactly do you propose to merge? That question applies also to the nomination below.
Marcocapelle (
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support rename Seat of government is archaic terminology rarely used in other category trees in WP.
Hmains (
talk) 16:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose Not all city halls function as seats of local government; Some are museums. "Town hall" is US-centric. "Seats of local government" exactly describes what is is, not what it may have been at one time.
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Category:Seats of local government by country
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Nominator's rationale: All subcategories here are "City and town halls in Fooland". See also related CfD for parent category I will post in a sec. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 12:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
support rename Seat of government is archaic terminology rarely used in other category trees in WP. And higher level categories should be a summary name of the lower categories, which in in this instance there is no reason to change.
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Oppose per above. Who says it's archaic? It may be old but it's not archaic. Pope is old but still in use.
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Category:Musta'li
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Category:Former Walt Disney Company subsidiaries
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Nominator's rationale: C2D: Consistency with main article's name
Mvcg66b3r (
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Rename per nom For consistency reasons.
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Category:Comenius University faculty
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Support -- This is a Slovak university. Calling the academic staff faculty is an American usage inappropriate to Europe.
Peterkingiron (
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Comment, most European categories similar like this one are named "faculty".
Marcocapelle (
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I think British universities are increasingly calling what used to be called departments faculties, so I think we should consider this more widely.
Rathfelder (
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Support per both above arguments, and for more categories to move. While there's a mass- and count-noun distinction here, it not all that clear in a category name, and we shouldn't be imposing a primarily American usage on non-US categories. While there are probably US-English-influenced places like Okinawa and the Philippines where "faculty" is used in English, to the extent English is used, "academics" works fine as a
MOS:COMMONALITY alternative. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 06:03, 12 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Can we agree that Academics of ... is the appropriate term at least in Europe?
Rathfelder (
talk) 18:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Sounds very reasonable indeed. Afterwards we may even expand it globally. According to
Faculty, Harvard University has a "faculty of arts and sciences" so faculty is apparently ambiguous in American English.
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Category:Actors awarded British knighthoods
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
ƏXPLICIT 11:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: None of the other related categories specify "British" in title so I am unsure why this one does. Please see
Category:Knights by occupation – these are the subcategories:
Actors awarded British knighthoods ← ???
Businesspeople awarded knighthoods
Lawyers awarded knighthoods
Musicians awarded knighthoods
Politicians awarded knighthoods
People in sports awarded knighthoods
There are no other categories specifying actors receiving any other type of knighthoods and there are no other subcategories specifying British either.
—МандичкаYO 😜 01:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep -- The possibility exists of actors having papal or other knighthoods.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:26, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
There are no categories for papal knighthoods by occupation and if there are actors awarded papal knighthoods, they would belong in
Category:Actors awarded knighthoods.
—МандичкаYO 😜 01:35, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment Do other countries offer Knighthoods? If so then maybe there should be a split for all the categories.
★Trekker (
talk) 23:11, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
New Zealand is one country which does.
Grutness...wha? 00:16, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
@
*Treker and
Grutness: New Zealand is part of the British commonwealth and receives knighthoods bestowed by the Queen, so these are also British knighthoods. Please look at the parent category
Category:Knights by occupation to understand.
New Zealand knighthoods are not British knighthoods. They are bestowed by the Queen in her capacity as Queen of New Zealand, upon the recommendation of the New Zealand Government, but they are a separate system and have been since the mid 1990s. They run in parallel to the British system (which was also formerly used in New Zealand). Knights in New Zealand are awarded the KNZM or GNZM, not the KBE or KCMG.
Grutness...wha? 04:22, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
The problem is that New Zealand changed its system, but the systems are similar enough that they are grouped together. As such it makes more sense for NZ if it were to have "Cat: New Zealand foopeople awarded knighthoods", and I suspect the same would be true for other countries. Perhaps
Category:British actors awarded knighthoods might make more sense. FWIW, I can't think of a single NZer who has gained a knighthood for acting, though there are several damehoods (Pat Evison, Kate Harcourt).
Grutness...wha? 22:55, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. And I like Grutness's idea, to the extent subcategories will be needed. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 06:06, 12 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Support New title makes sense for New Zealand knighthoods and others that are categorized together with the british knighthoods. It's also consistent with other categories.
Category:Actresses awarded British damehoods should also be moved for the same reasons, but that's for another nomination. ‑‑
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Nominator's rationale: Per consensus discussion at
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Axem Titanium (
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Category:Competitive video gaming techniques
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Axem Titanium (
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Support per nom. --
Masem (
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Category:American animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters
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The result of the discussion was:keep. No consensus for deleting or merging at this time.
(non-admin closure)buidhe 19:00, 9 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:WP:NONDEF. "Cartoons with furry things in it" is borderline, but "American cartoons with furry things in it" isn't defining. The furry things look the same no matter the country of origin. Also
WP:NARROWCAT, pretty much a random intersection of characteristics. Finally,
WP:OCLOCATION: "In general, avoid subcategorizing subjects by geographical boundary if that boundary does not have any relevant bearing on the subjects' other characteristics." Sandstein 20:17, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, to begin with, if change is needed the category should be merged rather than deleted. But I fail to see why a well-populated category like this one should be merged in the first place. It would only make sense if the entire tree of
Category:Animated television programs featuring anthropomorphic characters would be nominated for deletion because featuring anthropomorphic characters is perhaps not a defining characteristic.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:One-shot (comics)
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Nominator's rationale: Incorrect scope for the contents, and the original name was malformed anyway (should have been "Category:One-shot comics", since it is a category of comics not a category of "one-shot", which is not a
mass noun). As it now also includes a manga subcat, it needs to encompass that, too. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 15:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oposse Manga are comics. Moving it a plural would good, but adding "manga" is unneeded.
★Trekker (
talk) 15:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - this is a topic category for
One-shot (comics) and is correctly singular. It has subcats for individual comics and also for series (which are not 'one-shots', but related to
One-shot (comics)).
Oculi (
talk) 15:44, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose - As Trekker said, "comics and manga" is redundant.--
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Category:Seats of local government
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Merge somehow -- This category should, like
Category:Seats of local government by country, be a container, with individual articles distributed to the appropriate country article. It may be appropriate to reverse merge and to rename the national categories to the form of the present article. However, this may need to be done selectively according to local usage. In England the Town Hall or City Hall is often a venue for musical and other performances, with local government being conducted from the Council House. Birmingham Town Hall is a venue, where the
City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra performed until
Symphony Hall, Birmingham was built. The main council offices are in Birmingham Council House, in part of a building that also houses
Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Peterkingiron: how exactly do you propose to merge? That question applies also to the nomination below.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:48, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
support rename Seat of government is archaic terminology rarely used in other category trees in WP.
Hmains (
talk) 16:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose Not all city halls function as seats of local government; Some are museums. "Town hall" is US-centric. "Seats of local government" exactly describes what is is, not what it may have been at one time.
Laurel Lodged (
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Nominator's rationale: All subcategories here are "City and town halls in Fooland". See also related CfD for parent category I will post in a sec. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 12:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
support rename Seat of government is archaic terminology rarely used in other category trees in WP. And higher level categories should be a summary name of the lower categories, which in in this instance there is no reason to change.
Hmains (
talk) 16:38, 15 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose per above. Who says it's archaic? It may be old but it's not archaic. Pope is old but still in use.
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Category:Former Walt Disney Company subsidiaries
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Nominator's rationale: C2D: Consistency with main article's name
Mvcg66b3r (
talk) 02:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom For consistency reasons.
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Support -- This is a Slovak university. Calling the academic staff faculty is an American usage inappropriate to Europe.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:28, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment, most European categories similar like this one are named "faculty".
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
I think British universities are increasingly calling what used to be called departments faculties, so I think we should consider this more widely.
Rathfelder (
talk) 20:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Support per both above arguments, and for more categories to move. While there's a mass- and count-noun distinction here, it not all that clear in a category name, and we shouldn't be imposing a primarily American usage on non-US categories. While there are probably US-English-influenced places like Okinawa and the Philippines where "faculty" is used in English, to the extent English is used, "academics" works fine as a
MOS:COMMONALITY alternative. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 06:03, 12 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Can we agree that Academics of ... is the appropriate term at least in Europe?
Rathfelder (
talk) 18:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Sounds very reasonable indeed. Afterwards we may even expand it globally. According to
Faculty, Harvard University has a "faculty of arts and sciences" so faculty is apparently ambiguous in American English.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Actors awarded British knighthoods
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
ƏXPLICIT 11:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: None of the other related categories specify "British" in title so I am unsure why this one does. Please see
Category:Knights by occupation – these are the subcategories:
Actors awarded British knighthoods ← ???
Businesspeople awarded knighthoods
Lawyers awarded knighthoods
Musicians awarded knighthoods
Politicians awarded knighthoods
People in sports awarded knighthoods
There are no other categories specifying actors receiving any other type of knighthoods and there are no other subcategories specifying British either.
—МандичкаYO 😜 01:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep -- The possibility exists of actors having papal or other knighthoods.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:26, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
There are no categories for papal knighthoods by occupation and if there are actors awarded papal knighthoods, they would belong in
Category:Actors awarded knighthoods.
—МандичкаYO 😜 01:35, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment Do other countries offer Knighthoods? If so then maybe there should be a split for all the categories.
★Trekker (
talk) 23:11, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
New Zealand is one country which does.
Grutness...wha? 00:16, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
@
*Treker and
Grutness: New Zealand is part of the British commonwealth and receives knighthoods bestowed by the Queen, so these are also British knighthoods. Please look at the parent category
Category:Knights by occupation to understand.
New Zealand knighthoods are not British knighthoods. They are bestowed by the Queen in her capacity as Queen of New Zealand, upon the recommendation of the New Zealand Government, but they are a separate system and have been since the mid 1990s. They run in parallel to the British system (which was also formerly used in New Zealand). Knights in New Zealand are awarded the KNZM or GNZM, not the KBE or KCMG.
Grutness...wha? 04:22, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
The problem is that New Zealand changed its system, but the systems are similar enough that they are grouped together. As such it makes more sense for NZ if it were to have "Cat: New Zealand foopeople awarded knighthoods", and I suspect the same would be true for other countries. Perhaps
Category:British actors awarded knighthoods might make more sense. FWIW, I can't think of a single NZer who has gained a knighthood for acting, though there are several damehoods (Pat Evison, Kate Harcourt).
Grutness...wha? 22:55, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. And I like Grutness's idea, to the extent subcategories will be needed. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 06:06, 12 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Support New title makes sense for New Zealand knighthoods and others that are categorized together with the british knighthoods. It's also consistent with other categories.
Category:Actresses awarded British damehoods should also be moved for the same reasons, but that's for another nomination. ‑‑
Trialpears (
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