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The result was keep. No support for deletion. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Troopers Drum and Bugle Corps

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Another drum and bugle corps article with no significant evidence of notability or national competitive success. No significant independent coverage outside the drum corps DCI/DCX/DCA promotional network, and I don't think that Wyoming Representative Roncalio's applause in the Congressional Record for the group represents any strong substantiation of notability, nor does the Casper newspaper's mention of the director's dismissal, which has its own BLP1E issue. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wyoming-related deletion discussions. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Keep. Corps is a founding member of DCI and has been in existence nearly 75 years, earning championships that predate the circuit, and reaching championship finals nine times. To disinclude on the metric of national competitive success would be to remove the Cincinnati Bengals for the same. This article is high importance by WikiProject Drum Corps and mid importance by WikiProject Marching Band. Littledrummrboy ( talk) 13:10, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply

  • The Bengals aren't a band, though, and membership in DCI or DCA doesn't confer inherent notability, unlike membership in the NFL. However, your point is taken, and it may be that the DCI walled garden effect has minimized historical success by concentrating on DCI competition over anything else with splashy setlist cruft. Acroterion (talk) 01:08, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Keep enough coverage in reliable mainstream sources (such as this) to pass WP:GNG. NemesisAT ( talk) 12:01, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

  • This helps as a source for content, I am skeptical that a mention in the local newspaper satisfies GNG - this is a global encyclopedia, and the local Rotary and Boy Scout troops are covered in the local newspaper too, without becoming notable. Acroterion (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Keep Bgsu98 ( talk) 02:51, 13 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 00:55, 22 October 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No support for deletion. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Troopers Drum and Bugle Corps

Troopers Drum and Bugle Corps (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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Another drum and bugle corps article with no significant evidence of notability or national competitive success. No significant independent coverage outside the drum corps DCI/DCX/DCA promotional network, and I don't think that Wyoming Representative Roncalio's applause in the Congressional Record for the group represents any strong substantiation of notability, nor does the Casper newspaper's mention of the director's dismissal, which has its own BLP1E issue. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wyoming-related deletion discussions. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Keep. Corps is a founding member of DCI and has been in existence nearly 75 years, earning championships that predate the circuit, and reaching championship finals nine times. To disinclude on the metric of national competitive success would be to remove the Cincinnati Bengals for the same. This article is high importance by WikiProject Drum Corps and mid importance by WikiProject Marching Band. Littledrummrboy ( talk) 13:10, 11 October 2021 (UTC) reply

  • The Bengals aren't a band, though, and membership in DCI or DCA doesn't confer inherent notability, unlike membership in the NFL. However, your point is taken, and it may be that the DCI walled garden effect has minimized historical success by concentrating on DCI competition over anything else with splashy setlist cruft. Acroterion (talk) 01:08, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Keep enough coverage in reliable mainstream sources (such as this) to pass WP:GNG. NemesisAT ( talk) 12:01, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

  • This helps as a source for content, I am skeptical that a mention in the local newspaper satisfies GNG - this is a global encyclopedia, and the local Rotary and Boy Scout troops are covered in the local newspaper too, without becoming notable. Acroterion (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Keep Bgsu98 ( talk) 02:51, 13 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 00:55, 22 October 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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