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The result was Draftify to allow time for improvement Star Mississippi 01:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Trinity Optima Production
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Doesn't meet notability requirements per WP:CORP. I tried to encourage user to fix that multiple times before moving out of draft space, but was ignored multiple times. Edit history has been broken so much I dont think a merge is even possible anymore due to copy+paste moves and redirects even if the result was keep. Q T C 18:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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DeleteDraftify and salt While I could find plenty of results for them, they were all are either passing mentions of working with a musician, [1] [2] or primarily based on press releases or interviews. [3] [4] [5] [6] none of which would help to meet WP:NCORP. The edit history just seems to be a mess and while I wouldn't be opposed to draftification, I'm not sure how much of an option that is when it's been created despite prior draftification and no changes to improve it. Shaws username . talk . 16:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)- Comment I've changed from deleting, it doesn't feel right to advocate deletion when I don't speak the language and can't do the same level of WP:BEFORE. However I'm still sceptical that it could meet WP:NCORP, most of the sources (including those below) contain significant sections of quotes from the CEO, when WP:SIRS says it should be completely independent, and some have more about OTT is than the company. Given that it's been draftified three times and probably been copy and pasted moved to mainspace each time, salting would seem to be necessary to prevent that again. Shaws username . talk . 05:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Draft: This recording company has received significant coverage from major Indonesian news outlets such as detik.com, Republika, Kontan, Bisnis Indonesia, Investor Daily, and many more... It's not difficult to find Indonesia sources for this company. IMO it should pass WP:CORP requirements, However, given the current condition of the article, it might be more suitable to move it to draft rather than keep it on as article in WP. Ckfasdf ( talk) 03:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The Indonesian-language source material found by Ckfasdf indicates a GNG pass, and articles on noteworthy topics should be improved rather than removed. I don't have much confidence that the draftified article would ever return to mainspace, and the encyclopedia is less complete with this subject uncovered. Chubbles ( talk) 19:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Subject meets GNG, AfD is not cleanup, and I don't see inaccurate nor promotional prose that needs to be removed. Therefore I don't see the point in moving to draft. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 03:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify as suggested. It might be notable, but I can't tell from this unsourced mess. Bearian ( talk) 17:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I am not comfortable enough to vote but Billboard described them as "one of Indonesia’s biggest local labels" and the Asian Theatre Journal ( ProQuest 214407259) stated they (Dian Records) were "one of Indonesia's largest audiocassette production companies". S0091 ( talk) 16:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk) 16:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify. Completely unsourced and other reasons listed above.
'''[[ User:CanonNi]]'''( talk| contribs) 06:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC) - Draftify seems like an option to provide an opportunity to find sources. Otherwise given the sources I've located to date, it would be a delete as none meet GNG/NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing ++ 23:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was Draftify to allow time for improvement Star Mississippi 01:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Trinity Optima Production
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Doesn't meet notability requirements per WP:CORP. I tried to encourage user to fix that multiple times before moving out of draft space, but was ignored multiple times. Edit history has been broken so much I dont think a merge is even possible anymore due to copy+paste moves and redirects even if the result was keep. Q T C 18:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Q T C 18:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 18:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
DeleteDraftify and salt While I could find plenty of results for them, they were all are either passing mentions of working with a musician, [1] [2] or primarily based on press releases or interviews. [3] [4] [5] [6] none of which would help to meet WP:NCORP. The edit history just seems to be a mess and while I wouldn't be opposed to draftification, I'm not sure how much of an option that is when it's been created despite prior draftification and no changes to improve it. Shaws username . talk . 16:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)- Comment I've changed from deleting, it doesn't feel right to advocate deletion when I don't speak the language and can't do the same level of WP:BEFORE. However I'm still sceptical that it could meet WP:NCORP, most of the sources (including those below) contain significant sections of quotes from the CEO, when WP:SIRS says it should be completely independent, and some have more about OTT is than the company. Given that it's been draftified three times and probably been copy and pasted moved to mainspace each time, salting would seem to be necessary to prevent that again. Shaws username . talk . 05:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Draft: This recording company has received significant coverage from major Indonesian news outlets such as detik.com, Republika, Kontan, Bisnis Indonesia, Investor Daily, and many more... It's not difficult to find Indonesia sources for this company. IMO it should pass WP:CORP requirements, However, given the current condition of the article, it might be more suitable to move it to draft rather than keep it on as article in WP. Ckfasdf ( talk) 03:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The Indonesian-language source material found by Ckfasdf indicates a GNG pass, and articles on noteworthy topics should be improved rather than removed. I don't have much confidence that the draftified article would ever return to mainspace, and the encyclopedia is less complete with this subject uncovered. Chubbles ( talk) 19:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Subject meets GNG, AfD is not cleanup, and I don't see inaccurate nor promotional prose that needs to be removed. Therefore I don't see the point in moving to draft. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 03:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify as suggested. It might be notable, but I can't tell from this unsourced mess. Bearian ( talk) 17:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I am not comfortable enough to vote but Billboard described them as "one of Indonesia’s biggest local labels" and the Asian Theatre Journal ( ProQuest 214407259) stated they (Dian Records) were "one of Indonesia's largest audiocassette production companies". S0091 ( talk) 16:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk) 16:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify. Completely unsourced and other reasons listed above.
'''[[ User:CanonNi]]'''( talk| contribs) 06:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC) - Draftify seems like an option to provide an opportunity to find sources. Otherwise given the sources I've located to date, it would be a delete as none meet GNG/NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing ++ 23:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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