The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Aware of the socks and now-blocked nom and participants. However consensus is clear and disruption does not merit a redo. There is no consensus here for a redirect, but one can be added at editorial discretion if desired
StarMississippi 00:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)reply
• Delete: I'll also mention that citation source 9 is patently false, the career part of this wiki article it states that "Luca started his career at a tech start-up company called Ring Doorbell, in 2015." read the yahoo finance shows NOTHING\ about stating him being involved with starting his career there at Ring fake..
Juli Wolfe (
talk) 02:36, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
There are several interviews online and Youtube that state Luca Schnetzler worked at Ring in 2015. It is not fake.
::•Delete: Reason being Not notable person, I see here you cited a YouTube video link. I read through the Wikipedia Notability guidelines and it says that there needs to be reliable credible articles cited not YouTube interview links. Also I can see he has a lot of what looks like paid for press articles/news links, which is strictly against Wikipedia's policies.
LucasNotGettingOne96 (
talk) 01:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock.
M.Bitton (
talk) 17:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Strong + Speedy Keep Firstly the bio of the person is the CEO of Crypto NFT Network
Pudgy Penguins. They are also featured on Financial Times, BBC, NYTIMES, The Verge, The Guardian and many other WP:RS sources and the sources which are mentioned as reliable per Wikipedia. Secondly, the nominator has really weak background as they haven’t participated in any AFD before and as a creator of this article i wasn’t even notified regarding the AFD which is suspicious that the editor intention is to clearly harm the article without properly researching the citations. The page was reviewed by experienced NPR
Moriwen Many press has stated here that his previous company ring doorbell was acquired by Amazon
[1][2]DIVINE 12:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)reply
• DELETE + Speedy deletion: I disagree here. Hey DIVINE, I read through all and notice that quiet a few of them in this are not notable/credible I will go over the few. Some of the ones you mentioned here- He his not been featured in "
The Guardian" the site you are referring to is Guardian.ng Nigeria:
https://guardian.ng/features/netz-capital-by-luca-netz-is-the-latest-entrant-in-the-angel-investment-arena/ and there is no sight of the editors name who created the article it just says "Editor" which clues to it not being notable. Citation source 9 is patently false, and a proper reliable citation is needed. In the career part of this wiki article it states that "Luca started his career at a tech start-up company called Ring Doorbell, in 2015." I read the Yahoo Finance shows nothing about stating him being involved with starting his career there. And I seen here that in a podcast
2] here you claim him saying it, but where is there an article of that being said? No where.
[1] This isn't a reliable notable/credible source, you have to read through Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Others like sea.ign "Southeastasia IGN" that is cited under this and the other articles cited in the Wikipedia article are just mentions of him in there mainly talking about his company, just mentions of him included in there. There's no NYTIMES.com cited, no BBC.com cited, no TheGuardian.com cited. Remember, Wikipedia wants things to be true and cited. Editors like me and you do a great job at that, I seen that you said that my intention was to "clearly" cause harm without properly researching citation, which is Clearly not true as to how I went through and corrected your mistakes. And I see that you do a good at your edits as well as you have a lot of background on your end.
Juli Wolfe (
talk) 23:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC) (striking duplicate vote LizRead!Talk! 06:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC))reply
Delete: fails
WP:GNG. Google says there isn't enough
reliable sources from major news outlets, the only major and reliable news source that I know of are Business Insider which really isn't enough to satisfy
SIGCOV. There is also not much on reliable sources and not any major news outlets talking about her. -- Wesoree(
talk·
contribs) 01:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
:• Weak delete I agree that it also fails
WP:GNG. Doesn't show much of reliable sources from major breaking outlets seems very fishy needless to say as well since a user named DIVINE above stated a reply to someone saying that "his previous company ring doorbell was acquired by Amazon" this Luca guy or whatever never even founded
Ring it was by a guy named Jamie Siminoff. It is not Luca Shnetzlers company. This is why it is important that we must read the Wikipedia guidelines carefully and that doesn't matter if you are a veteran editor is a new editor.
LucasNotGettingOne96 (
talk) 03:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock.
M.Bitton (
talk) 17:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)(you can only cast one vote at an AFD but since you just created your account today, I wouldn't assume you'd know that. LizRead!Talk! 05:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting discussion. Just a reminder to all participants that each editor can comment all they want but can only cast one bolded "Vote". I've stricken extra votes editors had made. And the nominator's deletion nomination is considered your vote although it appears right underneath so I've left that there. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 06:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - seems like an UPE creation. Not notable yet.
Bhivuti45 (
talk) 18:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
Pudgy Penguins, the company may be notable but he is not. ~
A412talk! 18:12, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete promotion. Little independent coverage. -
Altenmann>talk 05:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Aware of the socks and now-blocked nom and participants. However consensus is clear and disruption does not merit a redo. There is no consensus here for a redirect, but one can be added at editorial discretion if desired
StarMississippi 00:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)reply
• Delete: I'll also mention that citation source 9 is patently false, the career part of this wiki article it states that "Luca started his career at a tech start-up company called Ring Doorbell, in 2015." read the yahoo finance shows NOTHING\ about stating him being involved with starting his career there at Ring fake..
Juli Wolfe (
talk) 02:36, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
There are several interviews online and Youtube that state Luca Schnetzler worked at Ring in 2015. It is not fake.
::•Delete: Reason being Not notable person, I see here you cited a YouTube video link. I read through the Wikipedia Notability guidelines and it says that there needs to be reliable credible articles cited not YouTube interview links. Also I can see he has a lot of what looks like paid for press articles/news links, which is strictly against Wikipedia's policies.
LucasNotGettingOne96 (
talk) 01:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock.
M.Bitton (
talk) 17:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Strong + Speedy Keep Firstly the bio of the person is the CEO of Crypto NFT Network
Pudgy Penguins. They are also featured on Financial Times, BBC, NYTIMES, The Verge, The Guardian and many other WP:RS sources and the sources which are mentioned as reliable per Wikipedia. Secondly, the nominator has really weak background as they haven’t participated in any AFD before and as a creator of this article i wasn’t even notified regarding the AFD which is suspicious that the editor intention is to clearly harm the article without properly researching the citations. The page was reviewed by experienced NPR
Moriwen Many press has stated here that his previous company ring doorbell was acquired by Amazon
[1][2]DIVINE 12:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)reply
• DELETE + Speedy deletion: I disagree here. Hey DIVINE, I read through all and notice that quiet a few of them in this are not notable/credible I will go over the few. Some of the ones you mentioned here- He his not been featured in "
The Guardian" the site you are referring to is Guardian.ng Nigeria:
https://guardian.ng/features/netz-capital-by-luca-netz-is-the-latest-entrant-in-the-angel-investment-arena/ and there is no sight of the editors name who created the article it just says "Editor" which clues to it not being notable. Citation source 9 is patently false, and a proper reliable citation is needed. In the career part of this wiki article it states that "Luca started his career at a tech start-up company called Ring Doorbell, in 2015." I read the Yahoo Finance shows nothing about stating him being involved with starting his career there. And I seen here that in a podcast
2] here you claim him saying it, but where is there an article of that being said? No where.
[1] This isn't a reliable notable/credible source, you have to read through Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Others like sea.ign "Southeastasia IGN" that is cited under this and the other articles cited in the Wikipedia article are just mentions of him in there mainly talking about his company, just mentions of him included in there. There's no NYTIMES.com cited, no BBC.com cited, no TheGuardian.com cited. Remember, Wikipedia wants things to be true and cited. Editors like me and you do a great job at that, I seen that you said that my intention was to "clearly" cause harm without properly researching citation, which is Clearly not true as to how I went through and corrected your mistakes. And I see that you do a good at your edits as well as you have a lot of background on your end.
Juli Wolfe (
talk) 23:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC) (striking duplicate vote LizRead!Talk! 06:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC))reply
Delete: fails
WP:GNG. Google says there isn't enough
reliable sources from major news outlets, the only major and reliable news source that I know of are Business Insider which really isn't enough to satisfy
SIGCOV. There is also not much on reliable sources and not any major news outlets talking about her. -- Wesoree(
talk·
contribs) 01:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
:• Weak delete I agree that it also fails
WP:GNG. Doesn't show much of reliable sources from major breaking outlets seems very fishy needless to say as well since a user named DIVINE above stated a reply to someone saying that "his previous company ring doorbell was acquired by Amazon" this Luca guy or whatever never even founded
Ring it was by a guy named Jamie Siminoff. It is not Luca Shnetzlers company. This is why it is important that we must read the Wikipedia guidelines carefully and that doesn't matter if you are a veteran editor is a new editor.
LucasNotGettingOne96 (
talk) 03:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock.
M.Bitton (
talk) 17:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)(you can only cast one vote at an AFD but since you just created your account today, I wouldn't assume you'd know that. LizRead!Talk! 05:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting discussion. Just a reminder to all participants that each editor can comment all they want but can only cast one bolded "Vote". I've stricken extra votes editors had made. And the nominator's deletion nomination is considered your vote although it appears right underneath so I've left that there. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 06:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - seems like an UPE creation. Not notable yet.
Bhivuti45 (
talk) 18:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
Pudgy Penguins, the company may be notable but he is not. ~
A412talk! 18:12, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete promotion. Little independent coverage. -
Altenmann>talk 05:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.