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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
List of Cornish philanthropists
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Skeletal list with vague scope and dubious notability Dronebogus ( talk) 18:12, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and United Kingdom. Dronebogus ( talk) 18:12, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. What's so special about Cornwall? Clarityfiend ( talk) 06:51, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Category:Philanthropists by nationality has over a hundred entries. All 15 names listed here have their own articles. This navigational list is more useful than the category for this as it shows more information, making it easier for people to find what they are looking for. Category:Cornish philanthropists does exist. Dream Focus 15:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Show me where Cornish is a nationality. Maybe a couple of thousand years ago, but not recently. Do we really want lists of philanthropists by county? Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- As for the category, I'm going to nominate it for deletion. Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:58, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- People are sorted based on regions within a nation such as at
Category:American philanthropists by state or be ethnicity such as
Category:Serbian philanthropists.
Cornish people shows they are an ethnic group. So they have
Category:People from Cornwall by occupation, just like
Category:Scottish people by occupation and many others.
Dream Focus 12:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- See my rationale at categories for discussion. Scotland is a country within the UK, and US states enjoy a great deal of internal autonomy mandated by the constitution (hence United States). Cornwall is not a meaningful legal subdivision of the UK or even England. Also pretty sure Serbia is a country. Dronebogus ( talk) 13:10, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- People are sorted based on regions within a nation such as at
Category:American philanthropists by state or be ethnicity such as
Category:Serbian philanthropists.
Cornish people shows they are an ethnic group. So they have
Category:People from Cornwall by occupation, just like
Category:Scottish people by occupation and many others.
Dream Focus 12:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Neutral I gave an iVote on the category but have no opinion here. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Related CFD Category:Cornish philanthropists is nominated for deletion. Your input (pro/con/other) is welcome right here. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Cornwall nowadays is just a region at the southwest corner of England. Briefly skim our constitutional status of Cornwall article for an overview why administratively it's been just another part of England for centuries and how the Cornish language faded from common usage in the 18th century. Attempts to gain autonomy for Cornwall like Scotland or Wales have fizzled due to lack of local support.
- We don't have lists like this for other regions or counties of England and there's no reason to believe a Cornish geologist, philanthropist or architect is going to be different from their other English counterparts. The list serves no purpose.
- In short, this list fails WP:NOT, specifically WP:CROSSCAT. In other words, Wikipedia is not "non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations". (Technically, this is a list, not a category but the notability discussion at WP:LISTN references WP:CROSSCAT and suggests the same rationale for deleting similar lists.)
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 04:00, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, I guess, seems to fall short of WP:LISTN. I wouldn't really see anything wrong with having lists of philanthropists by county, but to the extent such information would be useful, a better approach would probably be to build sublists within List of people from Cornwall along the lines of List of people from Northumberland et al. -- Visviva ( talk) 03:18, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I guess, it seems to fall short on WP:LISTN Gerblinpete ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
List of Cornish philanthropists
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- List of Cornish philanthropists ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Skeletal list with vague scope and dubious notability Dronebogus ( talk) 18:12, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and United Kingdom. Dronebogus ( talk) 18:12, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. What's so special about Cornwall? Clarityfiend ( talk) 06:51, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Category:Philanthropists by nationality has over a hundred entries. All 15 names listed here have their own articles. This navigational list is more useful than the category for this as it shows more information, making it easier for people to find what they are looking for. Category:Cornish philanthropists does exist. Dream Focus 15:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Show me where Cornish is a nationality. Maybe a couple of thousand years ago, but not recently. Do we really want lists of philanthropists by county? Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- As for the category, I'm going to nominate it for deletion. Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:58, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- People are sorted based on regions within a nation such as at
Category:American philanthropists by state or be ethnicity such as
Category:Serbian philanthropists.
Cornish people shows they are an ethnic group. So they have
Category:People from Cornwall by occupation, just like
Category:Scottish people by occupation and many others.
Dream Focus 12:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- See my rationale at categories for discussion. Scotland is a country within the UK, and US states enjoy a great deal of internal autonomy mandated by the constitution (hence United States). Cornwall is not a meaningful legal subdivision of the UK or even England. Also pretty sure Serbia is a country. Dronebogus ( talk) 13:10, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- People are sorted based on regions within a nation such as at
Category:American philanthropists by state or be ethnicity such as
Category:Serbian philanthropists.
Cornish people shows they are an ethnic group. So they have
Category:People from Cornwall by occupation, just like
Category:Scottish people by occupation and many others.
Dream Focus 12:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Neutral I gave an iVote on the category but have no opinion here. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Related CFD Category:Cornish philanthropists is nominated for deletion. Your input (pro/con/other) is welcome right here. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Cornwall nowadays is just a region at the southwest corner of England. Briefly skim our constitutional status of Cornwall article for an overview why administratively it's been just another part of England for centuries and how the Cornish language faded from common usage in the 18th century. Attempts to gain autonomy for Cornwall like Scotland or Wales have fizzled due to lack of local support.
- We don't have lists like this for other regions or counties of England and there's no reason to believe a Cornish geologist, philanthropist or architect is going to be different from their other English counterparts. The list serves no purpose.
- In short, this list fails WP:NOT, specifically WP:CROSSCAT. In other words, Wikipedia is not "non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations". (Technically, this is a list, not a category but the notability discussion at WP:LISTN references WP:CROSSCAT and suggests the same rationale for deleting similar lists.)
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 04:00, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, I guess, seems to fall short of WP:LISTN. I wouldn't really see anything wrong with having lists of philanthropists by county, but to the extent such information would be useful, a better approach would probably be to build sublists within List of people from Cornwall along the lines of List of people from Northumberland et al. -- Visviva ( talk) 03:18, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I guess, it seems to fall short on WP:LISTN Gerblinpete ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.