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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:09, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Gerony (Musician)
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This musician does not meet our notability criteria for WP:GNG nor WP:NMUSICIAN. All the references are either trivial name-check mentions, music download sites, fan-uploaded YouTube videos, primary sources (the musician's own YouTube videos), or do not mention him at all. One award that he supposedly won does not mention him at all. It does not appear that significant coverage in reliable sources exist for this musician. See source assessment table.
Source assessment table:
| ||||
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| musicbrainz |  User submitted content
|
Name checks in user-submitted content website where artists can create an account
|
name check only (trivial coverage
|
✘ No |
| AaceHypez | ? Music download site | Not a reliable source
|
trivial mention of his name on a music download site
|
✘ No |
| Youtube | YouTube, anyone can upload to YouTube
|
Not reliable, does not contribute to notability
|
music video
|
✘ No |
| St. Johns, Canada |  City in Canada website
|
It's a city site, like the Chamber of Commerce
|
Doesn't mention the artist at all. Fake citation, no mention of award or artist.
|
✘ No |
| Ghana Classic | Music download site/blog
|
? not a reference
|
Name check only on a music download site
|
✘ No |
| Zack Nation | music download site
|
? not a reference
|
name check, music download site
|
✘ No |
| Hip Radar | ? music download site | not a reference
|
name check only, music download site
|
✘ No |
| Zack Nation | music download site
|
not a reference
|
name check only, music download site
|
✘ No |
| You Tube | User uploaded
|
does not contribute to notability, not a reference
|
YouTube of him on his religion
|
✘ No |
| YouTube | User uploaded video
|
not a reference
|
It's a fan YouTube
|
✘ No |
| YouTube | user uploaded YouTube video
|
not a reference
|
YouTube uploaded by the artist
|
✘ No |
| Kumikasa | ? ? | ? ? | Fake reference for an award that he did not receive, does not mention him at all
|
✘ No |
| NYDJ Live.com | ? ? Unclear if this is a music blog | ? ? | name listed as a nominee
|
✘ No |
| OkayAfrica | ? ? | ? ? | Does not mention him at all
|
✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
Note:: Article is now at Gerony due to multiple confusing redirects by creator (now blocked). Netherzone ( talk) 15:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Music, and Ghana. Netherzone ( talk) 01:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. No WP:SIGCOV, sources are poor or even misleading, and I couldn't find anything else online. I really like the source table, though. Toadspike ( talk) 02:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - Note that the article's creator has moved the article to new titles a couple of times in the last few hours, and it is now sitting at simply Gerony. It looks like the creator also moved it out of the Draft system inappropriately. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 13:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete and clean up the redirects too (see comment above). Let's be charitable with
too soon. The article is a pretty shameless attempt at
promoting a rapper who is just getting started, with a biography that inflates his minor achievements in a
desperate stretch for notability. As one example, he got nominated for an award at his school, and the article includes a citation to the website of a Canadian city that has the same name as the school. Nice try, but I highly doubt that an unknown rapper from Ghana has been honored by the civic leaders of St. John's, Newfoundland. His other awards are just local vanity competitions with no media notice. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 13:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps in a few years after there is significant coverage there will be enough for an article on this musician; I agree that it may be a case of TOOSOON.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:55, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment to @ Doomsdayer520, when I nominated it, it was Gerony (Musician), do you think I should I add the Gerony article and Gerony (Rapper) redirect page to this AfD nom above? Netherzone ( talk) 15:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps in a few years after there is significant coverage there will be enough for an article on this musician; I agree that it may be a case of TOOSOON.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:55, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @
Netherzone - See Liz's comment below. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 23:48, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you!
Netherzone (
talk) 00:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just FYI,
Netherzone, most admins use XFDCloser to close deletion discussions and if the decision is to Delete, the XFDCloser will also delete talk pages and any relevant redirects that point to the deleted article. So, there is no need to tag these pages for deletion.
Liz
Read!
Talk! 01:37, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for this info Liz, I was wondering about that. I've only used XFDCloser once, maybe twice (for non-controversial closes), so this is good information to know. Netherzone ( talk) 02:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just FYI,
Netherzone, most admins use XFDCloser to close deletion discussions and if the decision is to Delete, the XFDCloser will also delete talk pages and any relevant redirects that point to the deleted article. So, there is no need to tag these pages for deletion.
Liz
Read!
Talk! 01:37, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you!
Netherzone (
talk) 00:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- @
Netherzone - See Liz's comment below. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 23:48, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I moved the article back to its original title as a page move during an AFD really confuses XFDCloser when it is time to close this discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 18:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom's source assessment, nothing else to add Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:09, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Gerony (Musician)
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- Gerony (Musician) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
This musician does not meet our notability criteria for WP:GNG nor WP:NMUSICIAN. All the references are either trivial name-check mentions, music download sites, fan-uploaded YouTube videos, primary sources (the musician's own YouTube videos), or do not mention him at all. One award that he supposedly won does not mention him at all. It does not appear that significant coverage in reliable sources exist for this musician. See source assessment table.
Source assessment table:
| ||||
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| musicbrainz | User submitted content
|
Name checks in user-submitted content website where artists can create an account
|
name check only (trivial coverage
|
✘ No |
| AaceHypez | ? Music download site | Not a reliable source
|
trivial mention of his name on a music download site
|
✘ No |
| Youtube | YouTube, anyone can upload to YouTube
|
Not reliable, does not contribute to notability
|
music video
|
✘ No |
| St. Johns, Canada | City in Canada website
|
It's a city site, like the Chamber of Commerce
|
Doesn't mention the artist at all. Fake citation, no mention of award or artist.
|
✘ No |
| Ghana Classic | Music download site/blog
|
? not a reference
|
Name check only on a music download site
|
✘ No |
| Zack Nation | music download site
|
? not a reference
|
name check, music download site
|
✘ No |
| Hip Radar | ? music download site | not a reference
|
name check only, music download site
|
✘ No |
| Zack Nation | music download site
|
not a reference
|
name check only, music download site
|
✘ No |
| You Tube | User uploaded
|
does not contribute to notability, not a reference
|
YouTube of him on his religion
|
✘ No |
| YouTube | User uploaded video
|
not a reference
|
It's a fan YouTube
|
✘ No |
| YouTube | user uploaded YouTube video
|
not a reference
|
YouTube uploaded by the artist
|
✘ No |
| Kumikasa | ? ? | ? ? | Fake reference for an award that he did not receive, does not mention him at all
|
✘ No |
| NYDJ Live.com | ? ? Unclear if this is a music blog | ? ? | name listed as a nominee
|
✘ No |
| OkayAfrica | ? ? | ? ? | Does not mention him at all
|
✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
Note:: Article is now at Gerony due to multiple confusing redirects by creator (now blocked). Netherzone ( talk) 15:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Music, and Ghana. Netherzone ( talk) 01:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. No WP:SIGCOV, sources are poor or even misleading, and I couldn't find anything else online. I really like the source table, though. Toadspike ( talk) 02:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - Note that the article's creator has moved the article to new titles a couple of times in the last few hours, and it is now sitting at simply Gerony. It looks like the creator also moved it out of the Draft system inappropriately. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 13:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete and clean up the redirects too (see comment above). Let's be charitable with
too soon. The article is a pretty shameless attempt at
promoting a rapper who is just getting started, with a biography that inflates his minor achievements in a
desperate stretch for notability. As one example, he got nominated for an award at his school, and the article includes a citation to the website of a Canadian city that has the same name as the school. Nice try, but I highly doubt that an unknown rapper from Ghana has been honored by the civic leaders of St. John's, Newfoundland. His other awards are just local vanity competitions with no media notice. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 13:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps in a few years after there is significant coverage there will be enough for an article on this musician; I agree that it may be a case of TOOSOON.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:55, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment to @ Doomsdayer520, when I nominated it, it was Gerony (Musician), do you think I should I add the Gerony article and Gerony (Rapper) redirect page to this AfD nom above? Netherzone ( talk) 15:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps in a few years after there is significant coverage there will be enough for an article on this musician; I agree that it may be a case of TOOSOON.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:55, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @
Netherzone - See Liz's comment below. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 23:48, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you!
Netherzone (
talk) 00:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just FYI,
Netherzone, most admins use XFDCloser to close deletion discussions and if the decision is to Delete, the XFDCloser will also delete talk pages and any relevant redirects that point to the deleted article. So, there is no need to tag these pages for deletion.
Liz
Read!
Talk! 01:37, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for this info Liz, I was wondering about that. I've only used XFDCloser once, maybe twice (for non-controversial closes), so this is good information to know. Netherzone ( talk) 02:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just FYI,
Netherzone, most admins use XFDCloser to close deletion discussions and if the decision is to Delete, the XFDCloser will also delete talk pages and any relevant redirects that point to the deleted article. So, there is no need to tag these pages for deletion.
Liz
Read!
Talk! 01:37, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you!
Netherzone (
talk) 00:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- @
Netherzone - See Liz's comment below. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 23:48, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I moved the article back to its original title as a page move during an AFD really confuses XFDCloser when it is time to close this discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 18:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom's source assessment, nothing else to add Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.