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The result was redirect to Osman I#Daughters. Liz Read! Talk! 17:49, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Fatma Hatun
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This book [1] does indeed state on p33 that Osman had at least one daughter, but that's it. No name. WP:GNG is very far away. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, History, and Turkey. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment And Lowry, Heath (2003). The Nature of the Early Ottoman State . SUNY Press. s. 73. mentions her by name, the name mentioned being Fatma bint-i Osman.
- Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 18:21, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete. I would expect the Turkish Wikipedia to have more but its article is also a stub with the same reference: tr:Fatma Hatun (I. Osman'ın kızı). Ping me if someone turns up more.
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 22:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I was able to find several sources in Turkish that mention Fatma as the daughter of Osman, @
A. B., but none delve into the specifics of her life.
Here, it writes that Fatma was only mentioned on a deed of endowment, which suggests any further search for more content will be futile. I am not against draftification, but if this article is deleted, it won't be difficult to recreate it given the small amount of content.
Aintabli (
talk) 07:22, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ Aintabli, if that's a good source, consider adding "only mentioned on a deed of endowment" at Osman_I#Daughters. Since there is no other Fatma Hatun on en-WP, I guess we could also redirect to that section. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thinking about it some more, I think Redirect to Osman_I#Daughters is a better choice. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Osman I#Daughters. Liz Read! Talk! 17:49, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Fatma Hatun
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This book [1] does indeed state on p33 that Osman had at least one daughter, but that's it. No name. WP:GNG is very far away. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, History, and Turkey. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment And Lowry, Heath (2003). The Nature of the Early Ottoman State . SUNY Press. s. 73. mentions her by name, the name mentioned being Fatma bint-i Osman.
- Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 18:21, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 ( talk) 19:12, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I would expect the Turkish Wikipedia to have more but its article is also a stub with the same reference: tr:Fatma Hatun (I. Osman'ın kızı). Ping me if someone turns up more.
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 22:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I was able to find several sources in Turkish that mention Fatma as the daughter of Osman, @
A. B., but none delve into the specifics of her life.
Here, it writes that Fatma was only mentioned on a deed of endowment, which suggests any further search for more content will be futile. I am not against draftification, but if this article is deleted, it won't be difficult to recreate it given the small amount of content.
Aintabli (
talk) 07:22, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ Aintabli, if that's a good source, consider adding "only mentioned on a deed of endowment" at Osman_I#Daughters. Since there is no other Fatma Hatun on en-WP, I guess we could also redirect to that section. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thinking about it some more, I think Redirect to Osman_I#Daughters is a better choice. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.