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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) asilvering ( talk) 02:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Creth Hines
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Fails WP:NSPORTS. No sources cited in the article that aren't wide-sweeping databases with low inclusion criteria.
In my WP:BEFORE I did a google search that turned up statistical databases. I then searched Newspapers.com, which turned up a dozen or so one-sentence mentions [ can be seen here]. None of these is significant coverage of Creth Hines under WP:SIGCOV. Instead every one of them is a brief mention that covers the same fact: that Creth Hines was a javelin thrower at Georgetown. FOARP ( talk) 11:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Olympics. FOARP ( talk) 11:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Kind of surprised I wasn't able to find more for this U.S. national champion. But I do think we have enough, although its close, for a pass of notability. The Houston Public Library gives 108 words ( WP:100WORDS) on Hines, including stating that he was discussed in the book Ku Klux Kulture: America and the Klan in the 1920s for starting up the first Ku Klux Klan baseball team of its kind. Newspapers.com has some coverage, e.g. an AP story ("Creth Hines Hoping To Set New Record"), a NY Daily News article ("Creth Hines, Georgetown, Eyes Olympic Team"), and a Washington Evening Star article from decades after his career; then there's also shorter pieces that could be considered on the edge of sigcov, e.g. here, here, here and here. Added up, I think its sufficient to pass WP:GNG. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per BeanieFan11. Scorpions1325 ( talk) 05:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I think that the sources from BeanieFan11 demonstrate that this person has been significantly covered by multiple independent RS, so this article should be kept (and improved). — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) asilvering ( talk) 02:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Creth Hines
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Fails WP:NSPORTS. No sources cited in the article that aren't wide-sweeping databases with low inclusion criteria.
In my WP:BEFORE I did a google search that turned up statistical databases. I then searched Newspapers.com, which turned up a dozen or so one-sentence mentions [ can be seen here]. None of these is significant coverage of Creth Hines under WP:SIGCOV. Instead every one of them is a brief mention that covers the same fact: that Creth Hines was a javelin thrower at Georgetown. FOARP ( talk) 11:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Olympics. FOARP ( talk) 11:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Kind of surprised I wasn't able to find more for this U.S. national champion. But I do think we have enough, although its close, for a pass of notability. The Houston Public Library gives 108 words ( WP:100WORDS) on Hines, including stating that he was discussed in the book Ku Klux Kulture: America and the Klan in the 1920s for starting up the first Ku Klux Klan baseball team of its kind. Newspapers.com has some coverage, e.g. an AP story ("Creth Hines Hoping To Set New Record"), a NY Daily News article ("Creth Hines, Georgetown, Eyes Olympic Team"), and a Washington Evening Star article from decades after his career; then there's also shorter pieces that could be considered on the edge of sigcov, e.g. here, here, here and here. Added up, I think its sufficient to pass WP:GNG. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: United States of America and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per BeanieFan11. Scorpions1325 ( talk) 05:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I think that the sources from BeanieFan11 demonstrate that this person has been significantly covered by multiple independent RS, so this article should be kept (and improved). — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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