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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Actualcpscm ( talk) 15:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
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A single cap with the United States men's national soccer team. I was unable to find any in depth secondary sources, failing WP:GNG. Let'srun ( talk) 15:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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- A US national player and member of the Olympic team, which are no small accomplishments.
Obit mentions him as being a well-recognized name in STL and the St. Louis Sports Hall of fame
calls him a "local legend."
Inducted into the STL Soccer HOF. In-depth story
here from USSoccer.com, though I'm not sure that'd count as independent. A SIGCOV story from the
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
here (
p2).
Plenty of mentions in Newspapers.com (e.g.
1
2
3). This feels like someone who should be kept.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 15:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Completely agree this does feel like an article which should be kept based on the public information we have available, even though football wasn't well covered in the USA at the time (St Louis was actually one of the exceptions.) I can't access any of the newspaper links, though.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 19:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- @
SportingFlyer: Do they work now?
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 20:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think so! Thank you for clipping them. SportingFlyer T· C 21:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- @
SportingFlyer: Do they work now?
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 20:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Completely agree this does feel like an article which should be kept based on the public information we have available, even though football wasn't well covered in the USA at the time (St Louis was actually one of the exceptions.) I can't access any of the newspaper links, though.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 19:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per
WP:BASIC, BeanieFan has shown there is enough to pass the basic criteria, which also makes me feel the nominator hasn't bothered doing a
WP:BEFORE. :/
Govvy (
talk) 21:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- In fairness to the nom this is the sort of article which needs a bit of sleuthing to WP:BEFORE since it's all pre-internet, but that also means more care needs to be taken. SportingFlyer T· C 21:39, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- I always conduct a Before check and looked at ProQuest and Newspapers.com. Let'srun ( talk) 21:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep appears to pass WP:GNG in multiple historical sources. SportingFlyer T· C 21:39, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per above. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 16:38, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 19:10, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. Its close, but I do think that there's enough here for notability per WP:NBASIC. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 19:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Actualcpscm ( talk) 15:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Bill Eppy
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A single cap with the United States men's national soccer team. I was unable to find any in depth secondary sources, failing WP:GNG. Let'srun ( talk) 15:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, and Missouri. Let'srun ( talk) 15:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh ( talk) 15:27, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- A US national player and member of the Olympic team, which are no small accomplishments.
Obit mentions him as being a well-recognized name in STL and the St. Louis Sports Hall of fame
calls him a "local legend."
Inducted into the STL Soccer HOF. In-depth story
here from USSoccer.com, though I'm not sure that'd count as independent. A SIGCOV story from the
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
here (
p2).
Plenty of mentions in Newspapers.com (e.g.
1
2
3). This feels like someone who should be kept.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 15:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Completely agree this does feel like an article which should be kept based on the public information we have available, even though football wasn't well covered in the USA at the time (St Louis was actually one of the exceptions.) I can't access any of the newspaper links, though.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 19:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- @
SportingFlyer: Do they work now?
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 20:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think so! Thank you for clipping them. SportingFlyer T· C 21:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- @
SportingFlyer: Do they work now?
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 20:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Completely agree this does feel like an article which should be kept based on the public information we have available, even though football wasn't well covered in the USA at the time (St Louis was actually one of the exceptions.) I can't access any of the newspaper links, though.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 19:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per
WP:BASIC, BeanieFan has shown there is enough to pass the basic criteria, which also makes me feel the nominator hasn't bothered doing a
WP:BEFORE. :/
Govvy (
talk) 21:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- In fairness to the nom this is the sort of article which needs a bit of sleuthing to WP:BEFORE since it's all pre-internet, but that also means more care needs to be taken. SportingFlyer T· C 21:39, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- I always conduct a Before check and looked at ProQuest and Newspapers.com. Let'srun ( talk) 21:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep appears to pass WP:GNG in multiple historical sources. SportingFlyer T· C 21:39, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per above. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 16:38, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 19:10, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. Its close, but I do think that there's enough here for notability per WP:NBASIC. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 19:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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