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Notability not established with substantive sources, only a context-free database entry with the dates of appointment. Fails
WP:GNG and
WP:BIO.
Reywas92Talk 21:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. In general we have kept Catholic bishops (and bishops of other major denominations). There is huge precedent and consensus for this. See
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 11:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Clergyoutcomes is NOT a notability guideline. Even if it says bishops are often kept, it does NOT say they are exempt from notability requirements, and doing nothing but referencing that is a circular argument. That's a bad precedent if there's not actually significant coverage on the topic. If little can be said except that he was bishop, it should be redirected to
Roman Catholic Diocese of Zárate-Campana.
Reywas92Talk 13:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
What it does is illustrate consensus, one of the concepts upon which Wikipedia is founded. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 13:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. I found a large number of articles in one newspaper alone. The reason
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES exists for Catholic bishops is that they are pretty reliably covered extensively once you dig into it, although those sources may not all be available online.
Jahaza (
talk) 19:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep per Jahaza. I think we can be fairly confident that sources exist that might just not be online. I had a search with a few Spanish words I guessed might be associated, and found
1,
2 discussions, passing mentions
3,
4, and more-than-passing-mention
5.
IgnatiusofLondon (
talk) 03:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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Notability not established with substantive sources, only a context-free database entry with the dates of appointment. Fails
WP:GNG and
WP:BIO.
Reywas92Talk 21:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. In general we have kept Catholic bishops (and bishops of other major denominations). There is huge precedent and consensus for this. See
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 11:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Clergyoutcomes is NOT a notability guideline. Even if it says bishops are often kept, it does NOT say they are exempt from notability requirements, and doing nothing but referencing that is a circular argument. That's a bad precedent if there's not actually significant coverage on the topic. If little can be said except that he was bishop, it should be redirected to
Roman Catholic Diocese of Zárate-Campana.
Reywas92Talk 13:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
What it does is illustrate consensus, one of the concepts upon which Wikipedia is founded. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 13:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. I found a large number of articles in one newspaper alone. The reason
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES exists for Catholic bishops is that they are pretty reliably covered extensively once you dig into it, although those sources may not all be available online.
Jahaza (
talk) 19:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep per Jahaza. I think we can be fairly confident that sources exist that might just not be online. I had a search with a few Spanish words I guessed might be associated, and found
1,
2 discussions, passing mentions
3,
4, and more-than-passing-mention
5.
IgnatiusofLondon (
talk) 03:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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