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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Peranakans#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 12:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
This has been bothering me for a long time, for anyone that has experience in Vectoring (i.e. SVG)
The file
[1] is wrong, as can be seen here by the Air Force's
post the flames on the bottom should be 4 and 5 symbolizing the flames of 1945.
Can anyone that has experience in svg would please take your time and change as it should be? I understand it doesn't have to be 1:1 exact replica but when it comes to the hidden meanings and symbols I think its important to get it right. If you do have the time and experience please, thank you.
- EvoSwatch ( talk) 16:53, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Halmahera Sea languages#Requested move 11 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:11, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Maden language#Requested move 11 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:13, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
I see that in every province led by an acting governor (example Jakarta), there is the word "Acting" in the "Acting Governor" section. In my opinion, this positioning is not appropriate, because if it is led by a definitive governor then I am afraid readers will misunderstand that it is still led by an official. I suggest it is better to just use the word "Acting" after the name so that editors can understand the meaning of the word. Thank You
Example the word "Acting" after a name
Baqotun0023 ( talk) 01:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Recently I nominated several articles for deletion on Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Indonesia, I'd like to invite you all to participate on AfD discussion. Thank you. Ckfasdf ( talk) 06:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
We should have flags in infoboxes. It doesn't make any sense to not allow official flags in them. Eehuiio ( talk) 11:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
There are things that's been bothering me for a while. So I will put two issues I'd like to discuss with other active members of WP:Indonesia.
This is pretty much unanimous i believe but still problematic. We translated "kabupaten" as "regency", becaucse thats how it should be, and that for a time mistranslation as "district" was done by foreign sources or badly translated ones most of the time. However,
Statistics Indonesia have been translating "kabupaten" as "district" and "kecamatan" as "subdistrict" for a good few years now and considering they basically is the most official way to know things about Indonesian regencies, what do we do now? Adjust it to BPS translation? But thats such a dumb translation and then we'll find a lot of incosistency especially on how kecamatan is literally "distrik" in Papua, and that there's so much to change if we decide to agree with BPS translation.
How do we standarize translation on kabupaten and kecamatan names? Do we translate them to English or leave it as it is? Why do we translate kecamatan names and to what extend? I've seen kecamatan named "something kota" written as "something town", but then there are some that are not. There are kecamatan named "Hulu" and "Hilir" that are then translated into "Upper" and "Lower" but we dont translate Kapuas Hulu Regency into Upper Kapuas Regency (and if we do it feels kinda wrong to translate it). But for West East South North we translated it on regency names such as North Central Timor Regency but then we sometimes dont do it on kecamatan and leave it as "Kecamatan something Selatan". Should the kecamatan naming convention follows regency naming convention? We translate cardinal directions but nothing else, or maybe there's other way to do it?
I think that's all issues i'm bringing up for now. Apologize for bothering. Thank you very much
Nyanardsan ( talk) 09:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
yeah, it is very difficult - see Kulon Progo -
Kulon Progo Regency is divided into twelve districts (kapanewon), listed below with their areas and their populations at the 2010 census[2] and the 2020 census,[3] together with the official estimates as at mid 2022.[4] The table also includes the locations of the district administrative centres, the number of administrative villages (classed as kalurahan) in each district, and its post code
So the variants in different 'umbrella articles', and articles about various regions have variants of explanation, so it is potentially not easily resolvable.
so it's at all levels... JarrahTree 12:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations by Wikipediansand I believe this should be a general translation guideline.
The publication “Dusun Selatan Subdistrict in Figures 2019” is a continuation of previouspublications that are published periodically by BPS-Statistics of Barito Selatan Regency". So, I don't really see the issue. Ckfasdf ( talk) 03:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:? (film)#Requested move 9 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 23:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
I have request RfC Talk:Djong (ship) on a "History and geography" request for comment. Anyone interested can give their comments and review the evidence presented by me and Nitekuzee, thank you! Merzostin ( talk) 10:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Can anyone here help me with the historical charts called “lakipadada” or “lakipadaja” (primarily from Sulawesi) that I asked about here? ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC) There is an article at id:Lakipadada, but that seems to be a different topic. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 18:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to draft an article about Ki Nartosabdo but, not being an Indonesian or Javanese speaker, I'm not clear on spellings. What's the preferred spelling? jv.wikipedia has Narto Sabdo but id.wikipedia has Nartosabdo, and some sources have Nartosabdho. Similarly what about Sunarto vs Soenarto? AlmostReadytoFly ( talk) 15:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
For dead people, whichever name is the most common in English-language discussions should be used. And according to Google trend data, it seems "Narto Sabdo" is more commonly used. However, we can put all three spelling name in the article itself, like in Sukarno and Suharto. Just FYI, Nartosabdo's tombstone uses "Nartosabdho". Ckfasdf ( talk) 23:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, everyone! I'd like to invite you all to sign up for the upcoming 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. The event runs from July 1 to September 30 and signups close on July 15. The WikiContest focuses on developing countries, which Indonesia is a part of. The intention is to improve the English Wikipedia's coverage and comprehension of articles related to developing countries. For this reason, you may also expect that articles related to Indonesia may be heavily edited during the contest. More information on how points will be awarded can be found at Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Scoring. For comments or suggestions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Wikipedia talk:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. Thank you! (Copied with permission of Chlod) CMD ( talk) 12:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi everyone - It would be great to get some more eyes on the merge discussion at Talk:Jakarta Charter#Merge proposal. The proposed merge (of Committee of Nine (Indonesia) into the main Jakarta Charter article) could use some more opinions. Hope to see you over there. Ckfasdf ( talk) 22:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
With regret, I bring the news that User:Hanif Al Husaini has recently passed away. He had listed himself as a participant of this Wikiproject. You can leave comments on User talk:Hanif Al Husaini. starship .paint ( RUN) 01:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing
WikiProject Indonesia and anything related to its purposes and tasks. |
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Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10Auto-archiving period: 180 days |
Indonesia Project‑class | |||||||
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WikiProject Indonesia was featured in a WikiProject Report in the Signpost on 11 September 2013. |
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Peranakans#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 12:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
This has been bothering me for a long time, for anyone that has experience in Vectoring (i.e. SVG)
The file
[1] is wrong, as can be seen here by the Air Force's
post the flames on the bottom should be 4 and 5 symbolizing the flames of 1945.
Can anyone that has experience in svg would please take your time and change as it should be? I understand it doesn't have to be 1:1 exact replica but when it comes to the hidden meanings and symbols I think its important to get it right. If you do have the time and experience please, thank you.
- EvoSwatch ( talk) 16:53, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Halmahera Sea languages#Requested move 11 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:11, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Maden language#Requested move 11 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:13, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
I see that in every province led by an acting governor (example Jakarta), there is the word "Acting" in the "Acting Governor" section. In my opinion, this positioning is not appropriate, because if it is led by a definitive governor then I am afraid readers will misunderstand that it is still led by an official. I suggest it is better to just use the word "Acting" after the name so that editors can understand the meaning of the word. Thank You
Example the word "Acting" after a name
Baqotun0023 ( talk) 01:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Recently I nominated several articles for deletion on Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Indonesia, I'd like to invite you all to participate on AfD discussion. Thank you. Ckfasdf ( talk) 06:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
We should have flags in infoboxes. It doesn't make any sense to not allow official flags in them. Eehuiio ( talk) 11:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
There are things that's been bothering me for a while. So I will put two issues I'd like to discuss with other active members of WP:Indonesia.
This is pretty much unanimous i believe but still problematic. We translated "kabupaten" as "regency", becaucse thats how it should be, and that for a time mistranslation as "district" was done by foreign sources or badly translated ones most of the time. However,
Statistics Indonesia have been translating "kabupaten" as "district" and "kecamatan" as "subdistrict" for a good few years now and considering they basically is the most official way to know things about Indonesian regencies, what do we do now? Adjust it to BPS translation? But thats such a dumb translation and then we'll find a lot of incosistency especially on how kecamatan is literally "distrik" in Papua, and that there's so much to change if we decide to agree with BPS translation.
How do we standarize translation on kabupaten and kecamatan names? Do we translate them to English or leave it as it is? Why do we translate kecamatan names and to what extend? I've seen kecamatan named "something kota" written as "something town", but then there are some that are not. There are kecamatan named "Hulu" and "Hilir" that are then translated into "Upper" and "Lower" but we dont translate Kapuas Hulu Regency into Upper Kapuas Regency (and if we do it feels kinda wrong to translate it). But for West East South North we translated it on regency names such as North Central Timor Regency but then we sometimes dont do it on kecamatan and leave it as "Kecamatan something Selatan". Should the kecamatan naming convention follows regency naming convention? We translate cardinal directions but nothing else, or maybe there's other way to do it?
I think that's all issues i'm bringing up for now. Apologize for bothering. Thank you very much
Nyanardsan ( talk) 09:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
yeah, it is very difficult - see Kulon Progo -
Kulon Progo Regency is divided into twelve districts (kapanewon), listed below with their areas and their populations at the 2010 census[2] and the 2020 census,[3] together with the official estimates as at mid 2022.[4] The table also includes the locations of the district administrative centres, the number of administrative villages (classed as kalurahan) in each district, and its post code
So the variants in different 'umbrella articles', and articles about various regions have variants of explanation, so it is potentially not easily resolvable.
so it's at all levels... JarrahTree 12:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations by Wikipediansand I believe this should be a general translation guideline.
The publication “Dusun Selatan Subdistrict in Figures 2019” is a continuation of previouspublications that are published periodically by BPS-Statistics of Barito Selatan Regency". So, I don't really see the issue. Ckfasdf ( talk) 03:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:? (film)#Requested move 9 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 ( talk) 23:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
I have request RfC Talk:Djong (ship) on a "History and geography" request for comment. Anyone interested can give their comments and review the evidence presented by me and Nitekuzee, thank you! Merzostin ( talk) 10:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Can anyone here help me with the historical charts called “lakipadada” or “lakipadaja” (primarily from Sulawesi) that I asked about here? ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC) There is an article at id:Lakipadada, but that seems to be a different topic. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 18:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to draft an article about Ki Nartosabdo but, not being an Indonesian or Javanese speaker, I'm not clear on spellings. What's the preferred spelling? jv.wikipedia has Narto Sabdo but id.wikipedia has Nartosabdo, and some sources have Nartosabdho. Similarly what about Sunarto vs Soenarto? AlmostReadytoFly ( talk) 15:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
For dead people, whichever name is the most common in English-language discussions should be used. And according to Google trend data, it seems "Narto Sabdo" is more commonly used. However, we can put all three spelling name in the article itself, like in Sukarno and Suharto. Just FYI, Nartosabdo's tombstone uses "Nartosabdho". Ckfasdf ( talk) 23:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, everyone! I'd like to invite you all to sign up for the upcoming 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. The event runs from July 1 to September 30 and signups close on July 15. The WikiContest focuses on developing countries, which Indonesia is a part of. The intention is to improve the English Wikipedia's coverage and comprehension of articles related to developing countries. For this reason, you may also expect that articles related to Indonesia may be heavily edited during the contest. More information on how points will be awarded can be found at Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Scoring. For comments or suggestions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Wikipedia talk:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. Thank you! (Copied with permission of Chlod) CMD ( talk) 12:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi everyone - It would be great to get some more eyes on the merge discussion at Talk:Jakarta Charter#Merge proposal. The proposed merge (of Committee of Nine (Indonesia) into the main Jakarta Charter article) could use some more opinions. Hope to see you over there. Ckfasdf ( talk) 22:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
With regret, I bring the news that User:Hanif Al Husaini has recently passed away. He had listed himself as a participant of this Wikiproject. You can leave comments on User talk:Hanif Al Husaini. starship .paint ( RUN) 01:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)