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It would need a new headline. I withdraw my suggestion until (1) substantial casualty reports accumulate or (2) Ernesto approaches the US near hurricane strength. -
Runningonbrains01:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I completely agree, though the text "the solar system now has only 8 planets" is a bit weird. It's not like one blew up or anything.
Evertype14:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The Holy Jihad Brigades claims responsibility for the kidnappings of
Steve Centanni and
Olaf Wiig. A video was broadcast by
Al-Jazeera showing no armed men and they appeared to be in good health. There are demands that the
United States release "muslim prisoners" within 72 hours.
Pulkovo Airlines Flight 612 has crashed in the Ukraine, 170 feared dead, at least 30 confirmed bodies. I'm an admin, but I don't have much experience with ITN, so I'm going to suggest this here inbstead of just changing the template (though the introduction to this page kinda says I can...) anyway. I feel it should go on ITN as most airline disasters usually do. --
SmthManly /
ManlyTalk /
ManlyContribs18:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Shouldn't the Tungurahua eruption go on the natural disasters section?
A
Turkish-
Iranian natural gas pipeline explodes in Turkey's northeastern Ağrı Province. Turkish authorities suspect seperatist
Kurds were behind the incident.
(CNN News)
Biggest rugby competition in the southern hemisphere, so it needs to be up. We should tweak the page a little, before it (hopefully) goes on the min page.
Cvene6408:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Tri-Nations is not officially over, but winner has been established. This is a major international sporting event and should be properly documented in the news section. For the image, I would recommend the rugby picture rather than the NZ flag (the All Blacks flag might be more appropriate if a flag were to be used).
hoopydinkConas tá tú?12:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)reply
It's not too tabloid-ish. It's one of the biggest news stories in the country and it deserves attention here too, especially when the most important issues here appears to be the addition of planets.-
Andrewia03:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)reply
In one hundred years' time, the reclassification of the planets will be part of every standard textbook on astronomy. A child beauty queen's death will not. Come on, let's get our priorities right here.
Batmanand |
Talk20:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Agreed. The draft proposal made a fair number of newspaper front pages on the way to work this morning, and its historically speaking, a relatively big deal. We'll see if its adopted by the end of the conference.
The Tom15:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)reply
While this news is pretty noteable, considering that Castro went up for going to hospital, I believe there is policy about no deaths or something.--
HamedogTalk|@11:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Just looked at the guidelines, and IMO, this meets this critera: "A death should only be placed on ITN if it meets one of the following criteria: (1) the deceased was in a high ranking office of power at the time of death" - she is the Queen of the Māori, which is pretty high ranking. However, I may be pushing my bias as a Māori.--
HamedogTalk|@11:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I wouldn't really say it meets the high ranking office of power criteria. From the
Māori King Movement article:
The Māori monarch is a non-constitutional role with no legal power in New Zealand; rather, it is a symbolic role invested with a high degree of mana (prestige). I have no objections to having it there though.
Rafy19:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I typed in "Queen of the Maori" to avoid sticking "(flag pictured)" in between "Maori" and "Queen". I've fixed it now. Hope it's better. --
PFHLai13:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC)reply
August 14
I think that the
XVI International AIDS Conference, 2006 that started last night in Toronto, Canada, warrents inclusion in the "In The News" section. It's the largest conference on HIV/AIDS ever and this is an event that affects the whole world. Many new studies will be unveiled this week which will impact future progess. Here is an article talking about the launch of the conference
[2] and here is one about one study to be released there.
[3] There is an entire section at the Globe about it.
[4]
This is short and simple and can be changed if a major breakthrough is announced during the conference (running until August 18th)
Jeff13:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The conference seems to have taken the position that the new goal should be to empower women in the fight against HIV/AIDS. (Since much of the control is with the man and the choice to use condoms) Bill Gates and Bill Clinton have been speaking about the issue
[5]. I feel that this conference has more international significance than the death of the Maori Queen, though that is for the ITN editors to decide. I am unsure as to what else needs to be done to fullfill ITN guidelines as there is a Wikinews article
[6] present. Hopefully someone with more experience than me may be able to fullfill these obligations.
Jeff17:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I've just added this to
Portal:Current events, as per ITN guideline #1. External newslinks are included, as per guidelines there.
Just convening an international conference is not enough, IMO. (Maybe I'm biased. I have attended conferences as part of my day-job. It seems like no big deal to me.) I have trouble accepting celebrities talking and people booing at Canadian government officials as major news with encyclopedic worth, but that's all we have so far. The conference seems to have taken the position ... ? Please add that to the article. The article
XVI International AIDS Conference, 2006 needs updates on who talked about what, and summary of major announcements (sth like
this, maybe?) If the wikiarticle has more things to read, I may be more supportive. ITN, afterall, is just another section on MainPage to feature good wikicontent. BTW, Wikinews is not part of Wikipedia, just a sister project under the Wikimedia Foundation. What happens there does not affect ITN. --
PFHLai21:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
You shouldn't have the full text, just any highlights. FUll text should probably be on wikisource, but that doesn't matter here other than the poor quality article. -(unsigned comment by
User:Say1988)
The full text will eventually end up on Wikisource, when the adopted draft has been reformatted and re-published by the UN as a proper resolution, but until then we can have the draft text in Wikipedia. As for your comment about a "poor quality article", I would appreciate if you would voice your views on
Talk:United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701 instead of here. --
Thomas Blomberg17:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Will support this when the diplomats are done talking and give us an actual
United Nations Security Council Resolution -- we have the
2006 United Nations Security Council resolution on Lebanon page standing by to take up new content. For now, perhaps someone more familiar with the news story can give us an article about the devastating oil spill in the Mediterranean along the Lebanese coast. A line about this would also be relevant and yet still "focusses on something oher than the fighting and remains netural". --
PFHLai06:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I suggest something more negative, the 5 articles posted on the Main Page aren't negative enough. Because we need more negative news. Thank you :) and remember the only news is Bad News.--
Jerluvsthecubs05:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Ha ! If you feel like trolling, pick another page frequented by more admins. And frankly, good news items are preferred on ITN. Just that we can't find enough of them. --
PFHLai20:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't think a person being given the right to run in the election for a party is enough for ITN. I also don't believe the average person outside of the US (maybe even just outside Connecticut) Will have too much interest in this.
209.226.175.5914:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I agree that this can have some implications in US politics. But, IMO, it's rather speculative. "Impact is not imminent", so to speak. --
PFHLai20:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
This could have an impact, but if Lamont loses the election, it is not important or if the Republicans have a majority whether Lamont is elected or not makes this pointless other than a little tidbit of trivia, to say that an incumbant got defeated without being indicted, by his own party even. Also, the above IP user,
User:209.226.175.59 was me, I was on another comp and had forgot to sign in.
say198822:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
This is old news. The protests are more than a month old. Maybe we should focus on the recount. Better to wait till there is an official result for the recount. --
PFHLai01:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Yes, they are. I meant the protests have "dragged on" for more than a month (and getting boring). The recount is new. --
PFHLai01:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Agree. Perhaps you can help with the item below about the dam in Turkey, David. (You've fixed my previous "colon-laden" bad English before.) That may be used to fill the space on ITN for the time being. --
PFHLai02:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I can't think of a good way to add a mention of the
Southeastern Anatolia Project. I recommend that the entry be added as written (minus the pre-sentence link). This should have no bearing on the Mexican election entry, however, as we still have a five-day-old entry at the bottom. —
David Levy02:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
15 nations have so far presented plans for participation in a peace-keeping operation in the Near East. Another 15 have expressed willingness. [
Based on AP's article]; unfortunately I couldn't find a Wikipedia article on the future peace keeping missions --
Cryout21:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't know. It strikes me of being of limited interest, and the fact that there is a charge to retrieve any of the actual pages makes it not very useful for most people anyways and makes me fear that it could be interpretted as a form of advertising. --
Fastfission19:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I guess the question then is "And who is Rafael Paleiro?" The answer: a baseball player who hasn't ever reacher the World Series. In contrast to this, Justin Gatlin is a World and Olympic champion. As for notability, Mr Gatlin is on a whole other level. --
Cryout15:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The proper answer should be "
Rafael Palmeiro is a member of the
3000-500 Club." As for notability, both are now more notable as drug cheats than for their professional achievements. Anyway, Gatlin is not banned yet. Thus, not posted. --
PFHLai15:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Today, the SEC announced that it would officially conduct a study to see if allowing the so-called “Merrill exemption” did in fact confuse retail investors or not. So, the exemption is again being investigated. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Babybear2 (
talk •
contribs)
14:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC).reply
Well I guess it is, when a country removes a coin from circulation (5 cent is now gone and is/was worth 4.95 Australian cent's, and not every day a country removes a coin from circulation (although 5 cents is still legal tender until Oct 31.))--
HamedogTalk|@07:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't believe this is of international importance. I don't even think it will affect the New Zealand economy at all. Finally, this event won't really become notable until a couple of decades later . --
Cryout15:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Because for the coins themselves to have a special value, they must be something hard to find or of historical importance. So far there are, I am sure, many coins like these in people's pockets, and also their removal is not caused or will cause a historical event. --
Cryout01:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
This page is an archive and its contents should be preserved in their current form;
any comments regarding this page should be directed to
Template talk:In the news. Thanks.
It would need a new headline. I withdraw my suggestion until (1) substantial casualty reports accumulate or (2) Ernesto approaches the US near hurricane strength. -
Runningonbrains01:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I completely agree, though the text "the solar system now has only 8 planets" is a bit weird. It's not like one blew up or anything.
Evertype14:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The Holy Jihad Brigades claims responsibility for the kidnappings of
Steve Centanni and
Olaf Wiig. A video was broadcast by
Al-Jazeera showing no armed men and they appeared to be in good health. There are demands that the
United States release "muslim prisoners" within 72 hours.
Pulkovo Airlines Flight 612 has crashed in the Ukraine, 170 feared dead, at least 30 confirmed bodies. I'm an admin, but I don't have much experience with ITN, so I'm going to suggest this here inbstead of just changing the template (though the introduction to this page kinda says I can...) anyway. I feel it should go on ITN as most airline disasters usually do. --
SmthManly /
ManlyTalk /
ManlyContribs18:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Shouldn't the Tungurahua eruption go on the natural disasters section?
A
Turkish-
Iranian natural gas pipeline explodes in Turkey's northeastern Ağrı Province. Turkish authorities suspect seperatist
Kurds were behind the incident.
(CNN News)
Biggest rugby competition in the southern hemisphere, so it needs to be up. We should tweak the page a little, before it (hopefully) goes on the min page.
Cvene6408:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Tri-Nations is not officially over, but winner has been established. This is a major international sporting event and should be properly documented in the news section. For the image, I would recommend the rugby picture rather than the NZ flag (the All Blacks flag might be more appropriate if a flag were to be used).
hoopydinkConas tá tú?12:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)reply
It's not too tabloid-ish. It's one of the biggest news stories in the country and it deserves attention here too, especially when the most important issues here appears to be the addition of planets.-
Andrewia03:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)reply
In one hundred years' time, the reclassification of the planets will be part of every standard textbook on astronomy. A child beauty queen's death will not. Come on, let's get our priorities right here.
Batmanand |
Talk20:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Agreed. The draft proposal made a fair number of newspaper front pages on the way to work this morning, and its historically speaking, a relatively big deal. We'll see if its adopted by the end of the conference.
The Tom15:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)reply
While this news is pretty noteable, considering that Castro went up for going to hospital, I believe there is policy about no deaths or something.--
HamedogTalk|@11:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Just looked at the guidelines, and IMO, this meets this critera: "A death should only be placed on ITN if it meets one of the following criteria: (1) the deceased was in a high ranking office of power at the time of death" - she is the Queen of the Māori, which is pretty high ranking. However, I may be pushing my bias as a Māori.--
HamedogTalk|@11:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I wouldn't really say it meets the high ranking office of power criteria. From the
Māori King Movement article:
The Māori monarch is a non-constitutional role with no legal power in New Zealand; rather, it is a symbolic role invested with a high degree of mana (prestige). I have no objections to having it there though.
Rafy19:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I typed in "Queen of the Maori" to avoid sticking "(flag pictured)" in between "Maori" and "Queen". I've fixed it now. Hope it's better. --
PFHLai13:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC)reply
August 14
I think that the
XVI International AIDS Conference, 2006 that started last night in Toronto, Canada, warrents inclusion in the "In The News" section. It's the largest conference on HIV/AIDS ever and this is an event that affects the whole world. Many new studies will be unveiled this week which will impact future progess. Here is an article talking about the launch of the conference
[2] and here is one about one study to be released there.
[3] There is an entire section at the Globe about it.
[4]
This is short and simple and can be changed if a major breakthrough is announced during the conference (running until August 18th)
Jeff13:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The conference seems to have taken the position that the new goal should be to empower women in the fight against HIV/AIDS. (Since much of the control is with the man and the choice to use condoms) Bill Gates and Bill Clinton have been speaking about the issue
[5]. I feel that this conference has more international significance than the death of the Maori Queen, though that is for the ITN editors to decide. I am unsure as to what else needs to be done to fullfill ITN guidelines as there is a Wikinews article
[6] present. Hopefully someone with more experience than me may be able to fullfill these obligations.
Jeff17:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I've just added this to
Portal:Current events, as per ITN guideline #1. External newslinks are included, as per guidelines there.
Just convening an international conference is not enough, IMO. (Maybe I'm biased. I have attended conferences as part of my day-job. It seems like no big deal to me.) I have trouble accepting celebrities talking and people booing at Canadian government officials as major news with encyclopedic worth, but that's all we have so far. The conference seems to have taken the position ... ? Please add that to the article. The article
XVI International AIDS Conference, 2006 needs updates on who talked about what, and summary of major announcements (sth like
this, maybe?) If the wikiarticle has more things to read, I may be more supportive. ITN, afterall, is just another section on MainPage to feature good wikicontent. BTW, Wikinews is not part of Wikipedia, just a sister project under the Wikimedia Foundation. What happens there does not affect ITN. --
PFHLai21:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
You shouldn't have the full text, just any highlights. FUll text should probably be on wikisource, but that doesn't matter here other than the poor quality article. -(unsigned comment by
User:Say1988)
The full text will eventually end up on Wikisource, when the adopted draft has been reformatted and re-published by the UN as a proper resolution, but until then we can have the draft text in Wikipedia. As for your comment about a "poor quality article", I would appreciate if you would voice your views on
Talk:United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701 instead of here. --
Thomas Blomberg17:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Will support this when the diplomats are done talking and give us an actual
United Nations Security Council Resolution -- we have the
2006 United Nations Security Council resolution on Lebanon page standing by to take up new content. For now, perhaps someone more familiar with the news story can give us an article about the devastating oil spill in the Mediterranean along the Lebanese coast. A line about this would also be relevant and yet still "focusses on something oher than the fighting and remains netural". --
PFHLai06:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I suggest something more negative, the 5 articles posted on the Main Page aren't negative enough. Because we need more negative news. Thank you :) and remember the only news is Bad News.--
Jerluvsthecubs05:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Ha ! If you feel like trolling, pick another page frequented by more admins. And frankly, good news items are preferred on ITN. Just that we can't find enough of them. --
PFHLai20:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't think a person being given the right to run in the election for a party is enough for ITN. I also don't believe the average person outside of the US (maybe even just outside Connecticut) Will have too much interest in this.
209.226.175.5914:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I agree that this can have some implications in US politics. But, IMO, it's rather speculative. "Impact is not imminent", so to speak. --
PFHLai20:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
This could have an impact, but if Lamont loses the election, it is not important or if the Republicans have a majority whether Lamont is elected or not makes this pointless other than a little tidbit of trivia, to say that an incumbant got defeated without being indicted, by his own party even. Also, the above IP user,
User:209.226.175.59 was me, I was on another comp and had forgot to sign in.
say198822:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
This is old news. The protests are more than a month old. Maybe we should focus on the recount. Better to wait till there is an official result for the recount. --
PFHLai01:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Yes, they are. I meant the protests have "dragged on" for more than a month (and getting boring). The recount is new. --
PFHLai01:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Agree. Perhaps you can help with the item below about the dam in Turkey, David. (You've fixed my previous "colon-laden" bad English before.) That may be used to fill the space on ITN for the time being. --
PFHLai02:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I can't think of a good way to add a mention of the
Southeastern Anatolia Project. I recommend that the entry be added as written (minus the pre-sentence link). This should have no bearing on the Mexican election entry, however, as we still have a five-day-old entry at the bottom. —
David Levy02:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)reply
15 nations have so far presented plans for participation in a peace-keeping operation in the Near East. Another 15 have expressed willingness. [
Based on AP's article]; unfortunately I couldn't find a Wikipedia article on the future peace keeping missions --
Cryout21:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't know. It strikes me of being of limited interest, and the fact that there is a charge to retrieve any of the actual pages makes it not very useful for most people anyways and makes me fear that it could be interpretted as a form of advertising. --
Fastfission19:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I guess the question then is "And who is Rafael Paleiro?" The answer: a baseball player who hasn't ever reacher the World Series. In contrast to this, Justin Gatlin is a World and Olympic champion. As for notability, Mr Gatlin is on a whole other level. --
Cryout15:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The proper answer should be "
Rafael Palmeiro is a member of the
3000-500 Club." As for notability, both are now more notable as drug cheats than for their professional achievements. Anyway, Gatlin is not banned yet. Thus, not posted. --
PFHLai15:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Today, the SEC announced that it would officially conduct a study to see if allowing the so-called “Merrill exemption” did in fact confuse retail investors or not. So, the exemption is again being investigated. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Babybear2 (
talk •
contribs)
14:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC).reply
Well I guess it is, when a country removes a coin from circulation (5 cent is now gone and is/was worth 4.95 Australian cent's, and not every day a country removes a coin from circulation (although 5 cents is still legal tender until Oct 31.))--
HamedogTalk|@07:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't believe this is of international importance. I don't even think it will affect the New Zealand economy at all. Finally, this event won't really become notable until a couple of decades later . --
Cryout15:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Because for the coins themselves to have a special value, they must be something hard to find or of historical importance. So far there are, I am sure, many coins like these in people's pockets, and also their removal is not caused or will cause a historical event. --
Cryout01:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply