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Fails WP:NFCC#1. This file is replaceable by this CCTV excerpt depicting Yingying Zhang, sourced from NBC News [1] (which was, in turn, sourced from the FBI). CCTV footage generally does not meet the threshold of originality to qualify for copyright protection and is thus in the public domain. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 15:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Non-transformative use of Reuters image, fails WP:NFCC#2 and WP:GETTY point 7. Wcam ( talk) 12:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
[u]se of historic images from press agencies must only be of a transformative nature, when the image itself is the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role, and is not allowed per policy). JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 13:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
And for commercial use, this image has been used widely by media outlets and online.That still doesn't the image compliant with "respect for commercial opportunities" criterion. The image has to meet all criteria, not nine or less. In this case, John and Wcam, according to CNN, this image came from Reuters TV, meaning it's a screenshot. This article confirms where the image originated from. Well, it says the image came from some random video, yet somehow, Reuters requires license for commercial use.
The North American (or US) cover art was de-PRODded without rationale, so I can't help wonder what I'm missing when reading the article and looking at the cover arts. Sure, this cover art credits "Wham! Featuring George Michael", while the other cover art solely credits "George Michael".
However, is it needed, and would deleting this cover art detriment the understanding of the topic in question? Do both cover arts convey same or different information? Is the understanding of the song inadequate without this (American) cover art? Honestly, there's already one (British) cover art, but I just now see an extra cover art uploaded and then inserted about five years ago. George Ho ( talk) 05:10, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Because it's missing another cover!Please be careful of circular reasoning in your arguments. The WP:AADD and WP:AAIDD essays should help you learn how to make your arguments count. George Ho ( talk) 16:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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The use of both non-free files for identification violates WP:NFCC#3a (minimal number of items), especially since the logo of the team is also present on the cap insignia. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 03:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Unused logo. Cloudbound ( talk) 22:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
The photographer's consent should really be brought directly to VRT; as is, there is no evidence of permission. Felix QW ( talk) 09:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
No evidence presented for why it should have been published without a copyright notice or before 1963, when renewal was still required. I have not been able to locate a free photograph of the individual in question, so relicensing as non-free may be an alternative. Felix QW ( talk) 10:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Image is entirely redundant now that Eggman's infobox image contains both Modern and Classic Eggman's designs. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 03:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
This is replaceable with a free image, as you can re-create this map on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons using a free map of England and adding these places as dots onto that map (I am not an expert on doing this, but it's possible with not too much work if you know what you're doing). As such, fails WP:NFCC#1. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 19:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Non-free file may actually be free This file is from the ppy/osu GitHub repository, licensed under the Expat ("MIT") license. ~~ 2NumForIce ( speak| edits) 22:52, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCCP#1 pretty easy to have a free version. — DaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 08:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Originally nominated by Sricsi ( talk · contribs) in an AfD nomination, despite this being a file and not an article. Their rationale follows:
Fan-made album cover, serves no purpose
This is largely procedural on my part; I offer no opinion or further comment. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
This non-free audio file samples ~13% of a copyrighted musical recording, in violation of both WP:NFCC#3b (minimal extent of use) and WP:SAMPLE. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 14:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Compare samples to screenshots: they still need to contextually signify respective topics in question. If omitting this sample doesn't impact the understanding of the song, then the sample may not be contextually significant after all. George Ho ( talk) 20:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
This non-free audio file samples ~16% of a copyrighted musical recording, in violation of both WP:NFCC#3b (minimal extent of use) and WP:SAMPLE. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 14:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Better image is File:Kinunot na Isdang Tuna2.jpg. Instance of use here now replaced. This inferior version of the image of the dish can be deleted as unused and WP:NOTFILESTORAGE. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 23:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
No evidence of PD per Public_domain_in_the_United_States#Sound_recordings. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 00:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
English Wikipedia is not an indefinite file storage of unencyclopedic subjects as per WP:NOTFILESTORAGE. Not worth it to be transferred to Commons because this may be out of c:COM:Project scope. Commons has many images of publicity adverts of public infrastructure projects by Philippine government agencies and instrumentalities like File:Ubihan farm-to-market road and steel bridge 49.jpg, File:0024jfConstruction Arterial Road BypassTambubong Caingin San Rafael Bulacanfvf 20.jpg, and File:9915Balagtas Municipal Hall Bulacan 04.jpg. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 02:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
May be a derivative work of a character or c:COM:TOYS. For sure, the owner, the Pasig City government, is not the license holder of the underlying copyright of the depicted train (toy/character); in accordance with c:COM:Philippines#Government works. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 02:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1 due to File:MOTHER 1989 Boxart (Nintendo).png. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 17:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1: no free equivalent. There are plenty of tweets on Commons, and it's possible to use the icon SVG alone. SWinxy ( talk) 21:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1: no free equivalent. This can be replaced with a freely-licensed image on Commons that has the share icon, or replace it with an SVG of the icon itself. SWinxy ( talk) 21:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1 — DaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 10:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
For visual identification of the object of the article. The article as a whole is dedicated specifically to a discussion of this work. Any derivative work based upon the artwork would be a copyright violation, so creation of a free image is not possible. The file will be used only in the Infobox. None of which is relevant to its possible use in the infobox on the article on the city of Hyderabad.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1 — DaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 10:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
For visual identification of the object of the article. The article as a whole is dedicated specifically to a discussion of this work. Any derivative work based upon the artwork would be a copyright violation, so creation of a free image is not possible. The file is used only in the infobox to depict city landscape. This has little relevance to its possible use in the infobox on the article on the city of Hyderabad. There are far more good photographs of Hyderabad on Commons than we could possibly use in the article on the city. As for the article on the Khajaguda Lake; it already has an entirely satisfactory photograph in the infobox.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
The copyright of this film or TV work expired in 2015. Please use {{PD-China-film}} to replace the original fair use label. Fumikas Sagisavas ( talk) 11:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Unsure if PD but definitely not a CC-licensed file. Seems a tad redundant to File:Luang Pu Bunleua Sulilat.png to be converted to a fair use file. -- Min☠︎rax«¦ talk¦» 15:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
There's already an album cover at the article, a second one doesn't significantly improve contextual understanding per
WP:NFCC8. —Matrix(!) {
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If the album has been released with different album covers, they can be added to the infobox using this template. However, per WP:NFCC#3 use of non-free content is to be minimal, and not to be used if one item can convey equivalent significant information. An alternative cover that is significantly different from the original and is widely distributed and/or replaces the original has generally been held to pass this criterion.the wub "?!" 17:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
significantly different, however both covers use the same style, and the background image is the same barring the colours. There is not that big of a difference that would leave a reader confused IMO. —Matrix(!) { user - talk? -
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The shape may seem unusual, but it's easier to draw with a ruler or stencil or any other precisive material. Also, it's American-made most likely. Should be transferred to Commons if no objections to tag the logo as free to use. George Ho ( talk) 04:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NFCC#1. This file is replaceable by this CCTV excerpt depicting Yingying Zhang, sourced from NBC News [1] (which was, in turn, sourced from the FBI). CCTV footage generally does not meet the threshold of originality to qualify for copyright protection and is thus in the public domain. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 15:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Non-transformative use of Reuters image, fails WP:NFCC#2 and WP:GETTY point 7. Wcam ( talk) 12:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
[u]se of historic images from press agencies must only be of a transformative nature, when the image itself is the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role, and is not allowed per policy). JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 13:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
And for commercial use, this image has been used widely by media outlets and online.That still doesn't the image compliant with "respect for commercial opportunities" criterion. The image has to meet all criteria, not nine or less. In this case, John and Wcam, according to CNN, this image came from Reuters TV, meaning it's a screenshot. This article confirms where the image originated from. Well, it says the image came from some random video, yet somehow, Reuters requires license for commercial use.
The North American (or US) cover art was de-PRODded without rationale, so I can't help wonder what I'm missing when reading the article and looking at the cover arts. Sure, this cover art credits "Wham! Featuring George Michael", while the other cover art solely credits "George Michael".
However, is it needed, and would deleting this cover art detriment the understanding of the topic in question? Do both cover arts convey same or different information? Is the understanding of the song inadequate without this (American) cover art? Honestly, there's already one (British) cover art, but I just now see an extra cover art uploaded and then inserted about five years ago. George Ho ( talk) 05:10, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Because it's missing another cover!Please be careful of circular reasoning in your arguments. The WP:AADD and WP:AAIDD essays should help you learn how to make your arguments count. George Ho ( talk) 16:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
For older nominations, see the archives.
Discussions with at least 6 full days since nomination. After 7 days, they may be closed.
The use of both non-free files for identification violates WP:NFCC#3a (minimal number of items), especially since the logo of the team is also present on the cap insignia. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 03:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Unused logo. Cloudbound ( talk) 22:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
The photographer's consent should really be brought directly to VRT; as is, there is no evidence of permission. Felix QW ( talk) 09:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
No evidence presented for why it should have been published without a copyright notice or before 1963, when renewal was still required. I have not been able to locate a free photograph of the individual in question, so relicensing as non-free may be an alternative. Felix QW ( talk) 10:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Image is entirely redundant now that Eggman's infobox image contains both Modern and Classic Eggman's designs. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 03:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
This is replaceable with a free image, as you can re-create this map on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons using a free map of England and adding these places as dots onto that map (I am not an expert on doing this, but it's possible with not too much work if you know what you're doing). As such, fails WP:NFCC#1. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 19:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Non-free file may actually be free This file is from the ppy/osu GitHub repository, licensed under the Expat ("MIT") license. ~~ 2NumForIce ( speak| edits) 22:52, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCCP#1 pretty easy to have a free version. — DaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 08:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Originally nominated by Sricsi ( talk · contribs) in an AfD nomination, despite this being a file and not an article. Their rationale follows:
Fan-made album cover, serves no purpose
This is largely procedural on my part; I offer no opinion or further comment. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
This non-free audio file samples ~13% of a copyrighted musical recording, in violation of both WP:NFCC#3b (minimal extent of use) and WP:SAMPLE. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 14:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Compare samples to screenshots: they still need to contextually signify respective topics in question. If omitting this sample doesn't impact the understanding of the song, then the sample may not be contextually significant after all. George Ho ( talk) 20:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
This non-free audio file samples ~16% of a copyrighted musical recording, in violation of both WP:NFCC#3b (minimal extent of use) and WP:SAMPLE. JohnCWiesenthal ( talk) 14:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Better image is File:Kinunot na Isdang Tuna2.jpg. Instance of use here now replaced. This inferior version of the image of the dish can be deleted as unused and WP:NOTFILESTORAGE. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 23:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
No evidence of PD per Public_domain_in_the_United_States#Sound_recordings. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 00:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
English Wikipedia is not an indefinite file storage of unencyclopedic subjects as per WP:NOTFILESTORAGE. Not worth it to be transferred to Commons because this may be out of c:COM:Project scope. Commons has many images of publicity adverts of public infrastructure projects by Philippine government agencies and instrumentalities like File:Ubihan farm-to-market road and steel bridge 49.jpg, File:0024jfConstruction Arterial Road BypassTambubong Caingin San Rafael Bulacanfvf 20.jpg, and File:9915Balagtas Municipal Hall Bulacan 04.jpg. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 02:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
May be a derivative work of a character or c:COM:TOYS. For sure, the owner, the Pasig City government, is not the license holder of the underlying copyright of the depicted train (toy/character); in accordance with c:COM:Philippines#Government works. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 02:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1 due to File:MOTHER 1989 Boxart (Nintendo).png. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 17:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1: no free equivalent. There are plenty of tweets on Commons, and it's possible to use the icon SVG alone. SWinxy ( talk) 21:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1: no free equivalent. This can be replaced with a freely-licensed image on Commons that has the share icon, or replace it with an SVG of the icon itself. SWinxy ( talk) 21:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1 — DaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 10:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
For visual identification of the object of the article. The article as a whole is dedicated specifically to a discussion of this work. Any derivative work based upon the artwork would be a copyright violation, so creation of a free image is not possible. The file will be used only in the Infobox. None of which is relevant to its possible use in the infobox on the article on the city of Hyderabad.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:NFCC#1 — DaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 10:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
For visual identification of the object of the article. The article as a whole is dedicated specifically to a discussion of this work. Any derivative work based upon the artwork would be a copyright violation, so creation of a free image is not possible. The file is used only in the infobox to depict city landscape. This has little relevance to its possible use in the infobox on the article on the city of Hyderabad. There are far more good photographs of Hyderabad on Commons than we could possibly use in the article on the city. As for the article on the Khajaguda Lake; it already has an entirely satisfactory photograph in the infobox.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
The copyright of this film or TV work expired in 2015. Please use {{PD-China-film}} to replace the original fair use label. Fumikas Sagisavas ( talk) 11:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Unsure if PD but definitely not a CC-licensed file. Seems a tad redundant to File:Luang Pu Bunleua Sulilat.png to be converted to a fair use file. -- Min☠︎rax«¦ talk¦» 15:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
There's already an album cover at the article, a second one doesn't significantly improve contextual understanding per
WP:NFCC8. —Matrix(!) {
user -
talk? -
uselesscontributions} 18:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
If the album has been released with different album covers, they can be added to the infobox using this template. However, per WP:NFCC#3 use of non-free content is to be minimal, and not to be used if one item can convey equivalent significant information. An alternative cover that is significantly different from the original and is widely distributed and/or replaces the original has generally been held to pass this criterion.the wub "?!" 17:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
significantly different, however both covers use the same style, and the background image is the same barring the colours. There is not that big of a difference that would leave a reader confused IMO. —Matrix(!) { user - talk? -
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
✗
plicit 23:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
The shape may seem unusual, but it's easier to draw with a ruler or stencil or any other precisive material. Also, it's American-made most likely. Should be transferred to Commons if no objections to tag the logo as free to use. George Ho ( talk) 04:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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