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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Skin names to Category:Australian Aboriginal culture

Nominator's rationale: merge for now, only one article in the category, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Merge for now per nom. This category is not useful for one article. Place Clichy ( talk) 15:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Mayors by country and century to Category:Mayors by century

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navgiation Mason ( talk) 20:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 23:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:25, 12 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Decompression practice ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: A category of redirects Gjs238 ( talk) 15:54, 26 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose Unfinished work. No longer only redirects. There may be more existing articles if/when I find them, and there will be more as and when some of those redirects are expanded. There will also probably be more redirects as I find them or create them. Incidentally, is there a rule against categories of redirects? If so, please link me to it Those redirects are (or should be) WP:SUBTOPICCATs. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 17:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC) reply

  I see that the original group of redirects have been removed from the category. Did the person who uncategorised them check to ensure that they were not eligible under WP:SUBTOPICCAT? I don't know how to find them again without a tedious repeat manual search through Category:Redirect-Class SCUBA articles. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 06:29, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Merge the pages to Diving decompression. This category isn't helpful if it's predominantly redirects. Mason ( talk) 21:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

What makes a category that is predominantly redirects not helpful? · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 05:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Categories are meant to link related articles between them. That's the only thing they're useful for: be a navigation tool. Categories made of redirect do not show up at the bottom of the articles. There are some exceptional cases in which they can be useful, per WP:RCAT, but most of the time this should be avoided if possible. Place Clichy ( talk) 08:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply

How does one find out which subtopics are covered in existing articles when the redirects to them are excluded from categories? · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 01:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete, while moving the articles to Category:Diving decompression. The redirects do not have to be moved, as they link to the same articles that are already in this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Agree as per Marcocapelle. Gjs238 ( talk) 14:50, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  How does this fit in with WP:SUBTOPICCAT? · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 06:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep There are eight articles in the category at the time of this comment, which seems sufficient to me. No opinion on what should happen to the redirects. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 06:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:1480 births in England to Category:1480 births
• Propose merging Category:1480 births in Ireland to Category:1480 births
• Propose merging Category:1480 births in Scotland to Category:1480 births

Nominator's rationale: Not defining intersection between birth and location of birth Mason ( talk) 17:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge per nom, doesn't appear to exist elsewhere. SportingFlyer T· C 19:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as applicable. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Mixed martial arts male film actors to Category:Male film actors and Category:Male mixed martial artists
• Propose merging Category:Mixed martial arts film actresses to Category:Film actresses and Category:Female mixed martial artists
• Propose merging Category:Film noir male actors to Category:Male film actors
• Propose merging Category:Film noir actresses to Category:Film actresses
• Propose deleting Category:Male film actors by genre ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Film actresses by genre ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between era of film/genre and gender Mason ( talk) 17:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge/delete per nom, but don't merge to Category:Male film actors or Category:Film actresses because articles are already deeper down in those trees. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Films produced by David Chan to Category:Films by Chinese producers

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need for a category with just a single page Mason ( talk) 16:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:54, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: split/rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose splitting

• Category:Horse racing writers and broadcasters to Category:Horse racing writers and Category:Horse racing commentators
• Category:Golf writers and broadcasters to Category:Golf writers and Category:Golf commentators
• Category:Gaelic games writers and broadcasters to Category:Gaelic games writers and Category:Gaelic games commentators

• Propose renaming

• Category:Lists of golf writers and broadcasters to Category:Lists of golf commentators
• Category:Lists of horse racing writers and broadcasters to Category:Lists of horse racing commentators

Nominator's rationale: Sportswriters and sports broadcasters have their own seperate categories. These should be split between them. And rename the lists categories because they are misleading; they are all lists of broadcasters, not writers and broadcasters. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 13:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Support per nom Mason ( talk) 17:07, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Question should Category:Horse racing announcers be Category:Horse racing commentators? The main category is Category:Sports commentators. TSventon ( talk) 15:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TSventon, if you take a look at Category:Sports commentators by sport (a subcat of Category:Sports commentators) and you will note that no one term is applied uniformly. In this case, the content of the category shows two national categories with "announcers" while the other two are "writers and broadcasters" and "race callers". I chose to rename it to "announcers" since that was repeated more ( Category:American horse racing announcers and Category:Canadian horse racing announcers).

In any case, this nomination is about splitting sportswriters and commentators into seperate categories, and clearly not about whether the term "broadcasters", "announcers", or "commentators" should be used. That is a VERY different discussion and, if you want, we can discuss it that AFTER this Cfd is closed. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 13:34, 13 February 2024 (UTC) reply

I would note that there is, in fact, already seperate Cfd open on the matter. So please keep the "should it be announcers or commentators" questions to that one. Making this enquiry here risks derailing this Cfd which, as I mentioned above, is about splitting sportswriters and broadcasters, not renaming "commentators" to "announcers". That is a seperate conversation. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 13:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Omnis Scientia, I am suggesting that Category:Lists of horse racing writers and broadcasters should be renamed to Category:Lists of horse racing commentators, which is relevant to this topic. Of the lists in the category, 5 mention commentators, 4 broadcasters and none announcers. I am trying to be brief to avoid derailing the discussion.

I have looked at Category:Sports commentators by sport and it should probably be made more consistent. TSventon ( talk) 22:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TSventon, the only thing to ask here is whether you support the purpose of this nomination. I'll change the name for the "List" category but I won't for the main category. I have given my reasons for why I chose "announcers" and I think that I went about it the right way. Which term to use should be dealt seperately.

@ Smasongarrison, what do you think? Omnis Scientia ( talk) 08:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

I'm happy to defer to Omnis on this, their reasoning is sound. Mason ( talk) 14:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TSventon, would appreciate you clearing up whether you are for or against this nomination. I think it is quite fair when I say that we can open a Cfd on what horse race callers are called after this Cfd is done. Because the sooner this one is wrapped up, the faster we can get to that. If you support it please say so and if you are neutral, please say that. Thank you. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 08:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ SportingFlyer, I'll also tag you for your opinion here since you commented on a (sort of) related Cfd. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 09:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Support all but let's use the term commentators more uniformly if possible. SportingFlyer T· C 10:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ SportingFlyer, for the time being I will change it to "commentator" but I think there will have to be another Cfd discussing which term should be used. There is a lot inconsistancy in Category:Sports commentators. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 14:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Support all but let's use the term commentators more uniformly if possible (per SportingFlyer). TSventon ( talk) 13:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:27, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1534 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1534, and Category:1534 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1537 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1537, and Category:1537 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1541 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1541, and Category:1541 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1547 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1547, and Category:1547 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1556 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1556, and Category:1556 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1558 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1558, and Category:1558 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1559 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1559, and Category:1559 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in the 1550s to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in the 1550s, and Category:1550s in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1561 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1561, and Category:1561 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1565 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1565, and Category:1565 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1566 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1566, and Category:1566 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1567 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1567, and Category:1567 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in the 1560s to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century and Category:Educational organizations established in the 1560s
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1571 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1571, and Category:1571 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1572 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1572, and Category:1572 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1575 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1575, and Category:1575 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1578 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1578, and Category:1578 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in the 1570s to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century and Category:Educational organizations established in the 1570s
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1582 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1582, and Category:1582 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1592 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1592, and Category:1592 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1600 to Category:Libraries established in the 16th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1600, and Category:1600 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1602 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1602, and Category:1602 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1604 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1604, and Category:1604 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1607 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1607, and Category:1607 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1609 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1609, and Category:1609 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1611 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1611, and Category:1611 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1619 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1619, and Category:1619 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1638 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1638, and Category:1638 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1640 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1640, and Category:1640 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1646 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1646, and Category:1646 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1648 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1648, and Category:1648 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1655 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1655, and Category:1655 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1661 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1661, and Category:1661 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1662 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1662, and Category:1662 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1666 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1666, and Category:1666 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1669 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1669, and Category:1669 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1678 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1678, and Category:1678 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1688 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1688, and Category:1688 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1694 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1694, and Category:1694 in literature
• Propose merging Category:Libraries established in 1696 to Category:Libraries established in the 17th century, Category:Educational organizations established in 1696, and Category:1696 in literature

• Propose deleting :

• Category:Libraries established in the 1530s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1540s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1580s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1590s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1600s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1610s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1630s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1640s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1650s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1660s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1670s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1680s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Category:Libraries established in the 1690s ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCYEAR: avoid creating a category tree of individual by year categories with very few members, So for example, instead of grouping by year, group by decade. And then diffuse the by decade categories by year only when necessary. This tree doesn't need to be diffused by year for the nominated categories. Upmerge. – Aidan721 ( talk) 21:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

I have no objection to the upmerge, but I think we should add the "Category:

Educational organizations established i1XXX" to the upmerge since those categories also have very few items (all the random categories I checked had only the libraries established in as content). DGtal ( talk) 21:47, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

I agree with you, but think it'd be better served by a separate discussion. However, I won't object to doing that in this discussion if consensus agrees. – Aidan721 ( talk) 21:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose Century categories are way too big to help in navigation. How can you locate the relevant articles? Dimadick ( talk) 21:44, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  There are 23 articles in the 16th century and 26 articles in the 17th century. I most certainly would not state that diffusing that by decade or year is necessary by any means as clearly stated in WP:OCYEAR. Articles are perfectly accessible to be found in the century-level or Educational orgs tree. Navigation is severely inhibited by the current structure. The 13-15th centuries only have a century level and seem perfectly found. – Aidan721 ( talk) 21:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Support per nom. There just aren't enough libraries to justify this level of precision for these centuries. Mason ( talk) 01:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:46, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge the individual year categories and keep the decades categories.-- User:Namiba 17:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  I don't think that'd be useful though. In my response to Dimadick, I said there are just 23 in the 16th century and 26 in the 17th century. Diffusing by decade is not necessary there. When/if the category grows, then it should then be diffused by decade. – Aidan721 ( talk) 13:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom and WP:NARROWCAT. (If Namiba's suggestion to keep decades approaches consensus, that would be my second choice.) - RevelationDirect ( talk) 02:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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• I don't think merging to decade categories is a good idea considering we have less than 30 articles per century. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: purge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose purging biographies from Category:Paleolibertarianism ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose purging biographies from Category:Non-interventionism ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose purging biographies from Category:Old Right (United States) ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose purging biographies from Category:Conservatism in the United States ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose purging biographies from Category:Alt-right ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: purge biographies per WP:OPINIONCAT, and per precedent ( 1 2 3). Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Purge biographies per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 16:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fiction about the Solar System. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Fiction set on centaurs (small Solar System bodies) to Category:Fiction about astronomical objects

Nominator's rationale: Too small and overspecific to be necessary as of yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 06:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support in principle, but more specifically merge to Category:Fiction about the Solar System. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Fiction about minor planets to Category:Fiction about astronomical objects
• Propose merging Category:Fiction about distant minor planets to Category:Fiction about astronomical objects

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT with no reason for such detailed subcategorization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 06:45, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support in principle, but quite a lot of the content can be more specifically moved to Category:Fiction about the Solar System instead of Category:Fiction about astronomical objects. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Fictional teams to Category:Fictional organizations

Nominator's rationale: Seems to be something of a WP:SHAREDNAME situation. Why do we have to classify as "teams", specifically, as a subset of organizations? Sports teams have absolutely nothing to do with superhero teams, and it's a stretch to even call Santa Claus's reindeer a "team". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 06:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support in principle, but only move Category:Fictional sports clubs and teams under Category:Fictional organizations, then delete. The other content does not belong under Category:Fictional organizations. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment If Category:Fictional teams should not exist should Category:Teams exist? ★Trekker ( talk) 16:41, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  True, Category:Teams also appears to be along the lines of WP:SHAREDNAME as well. I am leaning towards it not needing to exist. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 01:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Fictional ethnic groups to Category:Fictional species and races

Nominator's rationale: merge, there is too little distinction between the two categories since most fictional characters are humanoid at least to some extent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete Largely because it doesn't contain almost anything that is solely a fictional ethnic group and not a race. Category:Mythological peoples doesn't count, as mythology is not typically classified under fiction. Everything is already classified under races that would actually fit, the remainder is too small to form a category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 04:41, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• I am ok with deletion as well. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge I made sure all contents are also in Category:Fictional species and races. The only problem I see is with how some of the subcategories of the latter are named: for example, there is a Category:Star Wars species but Category:Doctor Who races. Perhaps these should all be renamed to include both species and races. (The Mandalorians from Star Wars are a race/ethnic group but not a species.) Goustien ( talk) 16:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians interested in SOS (game) ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function. Really "Wikipedians who play SOS (paper-and-pencil game)". * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom, not intended as an area of collaboration. The userbox suffices. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete - Violates WP:USERCAT as a category with extremely limited use for collaboration; the article's talk page is a better place to collaborate on any content related to this game. VegaDark ( talk) 21:29, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose renaming Category:MBTA bus routes to Category:Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority bus routes

Nominator's rationale: rename per Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority and Category:Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. It is not a speedy rename because of List of MBTA bus routes. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete Not enough articles (as opposed to redirects) to warrant a category. Move the three articles up to Category:MBTA bus and Category:Bus routes in the United States where applicable ( List of MBTA bus routes is already in Category:Lists of bus routes in the United States so only needs to go to Category:MBTA bus . * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply
• Oppose: I see the reasoning, but I don't think it's a useful change. "MBTA" and the fully name are equally common; most categories and pages use the shortened form, including Category:MBTA bus, MBTA bus, List of MBTA bus routes, and so on. There are currently 5 [non-redirect] articles in the category, not just 3, and there will be more as I flesh out the more significant routes into full articles. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 04:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  You're totally right about the number of articles, so I've struck my delete !vote. For the record, in addition to the three obvious ones there are 86 (MBTA bus) and 43 (MBTA bus). On the rename, keep as it makes more sense to follow the name of the more specific MBTA bus than the more general Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:23, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Ozarks Mountaineers football seasons to Category:Ozarks Mountaineers football

Nominator's rationale: Only one redirect. Let'srun ( talk) 02:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep; part of a well-established, highly-structured categorization scheme. Jweiss11 ( talk) 03:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Merge per nom. It's unhelpful for navigation right now. Mason ( talk) 17:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Bus routes in the Boston area to Category:Bus routes in the United States

Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. The sole subcat is already in a subcat of the other parent so a merge isn't needed. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:00, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support. While there are some other bus routes in the Boston area, none of them are likely to ever have individual articles (versus coverage in the articles about bus systems). Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 04:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Beechcraft aircraft. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Accidents and incidents involving the Beechcraft Bonanza ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category lacks articles. Let'srun ( talk) 01:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge to Category:Beechcraft aircraft for the one article that will stay in the category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose renaming Category:People from East Boston, Boston to Category:People from East Boston

Nominator's rationale: Avoid redundant titling, C2D per East Boston. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:29, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Rename. It also would match with Category:People from South Boston. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Daejeon Samsung Bluefangs ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: With only the parent article and the players subcategory, this category adds an unnecessary layer which impedes on navigational usefulness. If kept, should be renamed to Category:Daejeon Samsung Fire Bluefangs. ✗ plicit 00:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Male actors from the Golden Age of Hollywood ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Actresses from the Golden Age of Hollywood ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per a previous CfD in 2019. Much too broad as inclusion only seems to be determined by a year. I am not sure why the actresses subcategory wasn’t included in the earlier discussion so I am adding both here for a new discussion rather than request a G4 speedy. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars ^{Talk to me} 00:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete, too arbitrary inclusion criterion. Many actors were active before and after 1960. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Support in principle. But it should be merged to 20th-century American male Actors/ actresses Mason ( talk) 05:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  • The articles are already in a 20th-century actors by nationality category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:29, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Great! Mason ( talk) 17:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Roman roads in Syria and Palestina to Category:Roman roads in Asia

Nominator's rationale: merge for now to all parent categories, only one article in the category. This is without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Oppose The nomination is inaccurate. There are three articles in this category, not one. Dimadick ( talk) 21:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• There was one article at the time of the nomination. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:31, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Support per nom, even with three. Re @ Dimadick's opposition, is your objection due to the fact that there are 3 pages in the category OR nomination is no longer accurate? Mason ( talk) 01:37, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Comment I view three articles as quite enough for a transport category, though there may be scope for expansion. Dimadick ( talk) 16:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Volunteer execution ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Volunteer executions in Japan ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: non-defining: I don't think that being a Volunteer (capital punishment) is a defining feature of any of the people in these categories. Mason ( talk) 03:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:35, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  May there be standards and definitions set? There are multiple inmates fitting the qualification, and it’s important when it comes to related studies! The categories were rapidly expanded majorly based on many pages involving waivers of appeals, yes, but we can decrease the list of names by clearer terms! ContributingHelperOnTheSide ( talk) 03:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  What are you gonna do next at this rate, nominate my baby farming category?! ContributingHelperOnTheSide ( talk) 16:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  May we place a better definition for volunteer execution in the category? Like, an inmate should say they want to die, that they try to force the issue even by more crime while they’re in car, that their legal actions should indicatively clarify they want to be executed, not just that they gave up on fighting it. ContributingHelperOnTheSide ( talk) 00:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Even if you had a better/clearer definition, the problem is that people aren't defined by whether they're volunteering. It could be interesting as list, but not as a category. Mason ( talk) 05:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Then let’s discuss here a list that can be made! Dynamic, obviously. Where do we start? The page that already says volunteer execution, or creating a new one entirely? ContributingHelperOnTheSide ( talk) 16:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  • @ ContributingHelperOnTheSide: with the amount of articles in this category, a separate new list article would be recommendable. There is no need for further discussion, you can just go ahead. Lists are not in the scope of this forum. (reply added after relisting) Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

    @ Marcocapelle: Not a list in the same article? Either way, I’ll need time to work with the categorizes before they’re erased. ContributingHelperOnTheSide ( talk) 22:53, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Note to closer: can you please copy the current category content to Talk:Volunteer (capital punishment) so that User:ContributingHelperOnTheSide can use that for creating a list. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC) reply

  Thank you for your courtesy. ContributingHelperOnTheSide ( talk) 18:41, 16 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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