The result was Keep. Panyd The muffin is not subtle 11:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC) reply
This will be a batch nomination of numerous recently created footballer bio's that are unreferenced, have no claim to notability, have the same structure (XY (date range) was a Zoo-ian footballer, have the same author, and are substubs:
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 01:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Hehe I don't mind a dozen or so as I always like editing a wide range of articles but not sure i can do many more!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Yes, it is more efficient if you start them without having to enter in the player name. But I didn't say to create empty articles without sources either. I could generate them quicker with a source and a few facts if they share a common source and content which most of them seem to being associated with Spartak Moscow. Speed isn't an issue for me, I'd happily except 50,000 sourced stubs a day, but no content and lack of sources is. I'm baffled as to why you were clearly reading the google translate for categories but were unwilling to add any content. You could at least add some of the clubs they played for if you can manage to add so many categories... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:38, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Thanks, the sad outcome of this though is that a] Emirj has shown no interest in this discussion or any indication that he cares about these articles and given no help whatsoever. b] Has shown himself to be unapproachable and unfriendly and unwilling to accept advice or discuss articles he creates. And he has immense potential too as an editor...♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
You can't congratulate me first for the stub creation and later create a notability storm. The same for Dr Blofeld, first adding fire to the stub creation (link above) and later saying the opposite. I'm dissapointed with you both. I will try to fix the articles I created, but I'm not happy with your confusing behaviour. emijrp ( talk) 19:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Adding fire? Eh? I and Piotrus encourage you to create new articles but its particularly problematic with biographies as something does really need to be said about them even if very brief. And when you create 1500 biographies the amount of work needed to even get a glimmer of something encyclopedic into them is staggering, work that the Polish and Russian wikiprojects cannot possibly accomplish. I've been guilty of this many a time and in my desperation ignored just how much work it entails to expand them. Its a highly optimistic perspective. There's a fine line between a sub stub which contains no info and a sourced stub much like your Spanish building articles which I personally think are very productive and even if it might be years before they are expanded they are set up nicely. I support your biography stubs if they contain one fact and one source bare minimum. With the Russian footballers for instance xxx was a Russian footballer. He played for Spartak Moscow from 1935 to 1940 and ended his playing career at Dynamo Kiev, where he later became coach (source), End. Would make a huge difference I think. Something like Mikhail Tovarovsky. And that is easily achievable by looking in the infoboxes on other wikis as you clearly did to create the categories. You could have another tab open for google search to immediately retrieve a source and add it, you could create articles pretty efficiently that way, especially if they all played for the same club and there is a common source.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:36, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
The result was Keep. Panyd The muffin is not subtle 11:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC) reply
This will be a batch nomination of numerous recently created footballer bio's that are unreferenced, have no claim to notability, have the same structure (XY (date range) was a Zoo-ian footballer, have the same author, and are substubs:
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 01:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Hehe I don't mind a dozen or so as I always like editing a wide range of articles but not sure i can do many more!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Yes, it is more efficient if you start them without having to enter in the player name. But I didn't say to create empty articles without sources either. I could generate them quicker with a source and a few facts if they share a common source and content which most of them seem to being associated with Spartak Moscow. Speed isn't an issue for me, I'd happily except 50,000 sourced stubs a day, but no content and lack of sources is. I'm baffled as to why you were clearly reading the google translate for categories but were unwilling to add any content. You could at least add some of the clubs they played for if you can manage to add so many categories... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:38, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Thanks, the sad outcome of this though is that a] Emirj has shown no interest in this discussion or any indication that he cares about these articles and given no help whatsoever. b] Has shown himself to be unapproachable and unfriendly and unwilling to accept advice or discuss articles he creates. And he has immense potential too as an editor...♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
You can't congratulate me first for the stub creation and later create a notability storm. The same for Dr Blofeld, first adding fire to the stub creation (link above) and later saying the opposite. I'm dissapointed with you both. I will try to fix the articles I created, but I'm not happy with your confusing behaviour. emijrp ( talk) 19:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Adding fire? Eh? I and Piotrus encourage you to create new articles but its particularly problematic with biographies as something does really need to be said about them even if very brief. And when you create 1500 biographies the amount of work needed to even get a glimmer of something encyclopedic into them is staggering, work that the Polish and Russian wikiprojects cannot possibly accomplish. I've been guilty of this many a time and in my desperation ignored just how much work it entails to expand them. Its a highly optimistic perspective. There's a fine line between a sub stub which contains no info and a sourced stub much like your Spanish building articles which I personally think are very productive and even if it might be years before they are expanded they are set up nicely. I support your biography stubs if they contain one fact and one source bare minimum. With the Russian footballers for instance xxx was a Russian footballer. He played for Spartak Moscow from 1935 to 1940 and ended his playing career at Dynamo Kiev, where he later became coach (source), End. Would make a huge difference I think. Something like Mikhail Tovarovsky. And that is easily achievable by looking in the infoboxes on other wikis as you clearly did to create the categories. You could have another tab open for google search to immediately retrieve a source and add it, you could create articles pretty efficiently that way, especially if they all played for the same club and there is a common source.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:36, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply