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The result was keep. withdrawing, due to sources found. Will someone else please remove the content that should be removed. DGG ( talk ) 20:08, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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Inadequate references for notability, which is not surprising, since it is complete trivia DGG ( talk ) 04:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Speedy keep this is ridiculous, this was a well known campaign all over the United States, seen by million of sports fans, and featuring many famous athletes. I need to also warn that the user just deleted another of the pages I originated,
Elizabeth Koshy (actress) without a deletion vote first. Furthermore I suspect-not saying he/she is but that I suspect he/she may be-the user is using many different usernames because a short while ago
User:Deb deleted the Elizabeth Koshy page, again without any votes first. Please, before putting pages up for deletion, do your research.And before deleting it, please take it to VFD first. Wikipedia is not an autocracy. Also the user told me I could be blocked indefinitely for writing an inappropriate page? and then proceeded to block me! What does my edition of Elizabeth Koshy (actress) have that is so inappropriate?
Antonio What The Heck Martin (User page:AntonioMartin|dime aca]]) 05:41, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
- Uh, both you and User:DGG need some time out, how about WP:TEA? Antonio, DGG is a respect member of the community, and he certainly is not harassing you through sockets (or I will eat my Wikipedia t-shirt; don't have a hat). That said, DGG, are you a bit overworked? Leaving a generic warning message on a talkpage of a user who seems to AGF try to help out and is not a SPA is not very nice. Let's shake hands and be friends, ok? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:49, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- I can assure you I am not a sock of DGG! The idea of it is somewhat amusing, though...:-) Deb ( talk) 08:46, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep This article can meet WP:GNG if reliable sources can be added to prove its notability, and these sources exist. Optakeover (U) (T) (C) 05:05, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep but delete most of OR content. Wow. Well, first, let's all agree - this is a gigantic pile of WP:OR. Now, regarding the series of spots, it still has to meet GNG. What do we have so far? [1] and [2]. Well, they are not perfect but they seem sufficient. I also found Ray Gamache (13 July 2010). A History of Sports Highlights: Replayed Plays from Edison to ESPN. McFarland. pp. 169–. ISBN 978-0-7864-5664-2.. With all due respect to User:DGG, I think this time you missed the mark - the topic is notable. Again, the problem is that this article is 99% fancruft/OR, but we don't need AfD to blank most of that content.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:45, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Piotrus, not that it is germane to the present article, but look at the history of both Elizabeth Koshy (actress)) and Liza Koshy, most recently created by the user here. They have been deleted 5 times by 4 different admins; the people who nominated were also experienced editors. Except for the present editor, everyone who recreated it was a different single purpose account. My warning was for that article, and I should have specified. I also probably should have used level 3, not level 4. I think I would have been remiss had I not warned for that one. I would not have warned for this--I don't usually warn when I send to AfD, only for Speedy. DGG ( talk ) 15:57, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a very well known, long lived advertising series. These ads get discussed extensively in other sports media. Piotrus has already noted the AdWeek article about the series [3]. Here's something from TIME magazine [4] and some extensive content from a book about ESPN [5]. Lots more apparent in searches. There's not enough room in the main SportsCenter article to cover this well, so I think a separate article is warranted. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 17:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. withdrawing, due to sources found. Will someone else please remove the content that should be removed. DGG ( talk ) 20:08, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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Inadequate references for notability, which is not surprising, since it is complete trivia DGG ( talk ) 04:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Speedy keep this is ridiculous, this was a well known campaign all over the United States, seen by million of sports fans, and featuring many famous athletes. I need to also warn that the user just deleted another of the pages I originated,
Elizabeth Koshy (actress) without a deletion vote first. Furthermore I suspect-not saying he/she is but that I suspect he/she may be-the user is using many different usernames because a short while ago
User:Deb deleted the Elizabeth Koshy page, again without any votes first. Please, before putting pages up for deletion, do your research.And before deleting it, please take it to VFD first. Wikipedia is not an autocracy. Also the user told me I could be blocked indefinitely for writing an inappropriate page? and then proceeded to block me! What does my edition of Elizabeth Koshy (actress) have that is so inappropriate?
Antonio What The Heck Martin (User page:AntonioMartin|dime aca]]) 05:41, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
- Uh, both you and User:DGG need some time out, how about WP:TEA? Antonio, DGG is a respect member of the community, and he certainly is not harassing you through sockets (or I will eat my Wikipedia t-shirt; don't have a hat). That said, DGG, are you a bit overworked? Leaving a generic warning message on a talkpage of a user who seems to AGF try to help out and is not a SPA is not very nice. Let's shake hands and be friends, ok? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:49, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- I can assure you I am not a sock of DGG! The idea of it is somewhat amusing, though...:-) Deb ( talk) 08:46, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep This article can meet WP:GNG if reliable sources can be added to prove its notability, and these sources exist. Optakeover (U) (T) (C) 05:05, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep but delete most of OR content. Wow. Well, first, let's all agree - this is a gigantic pile of WP:OR. Now, regarding the series of spots, it still has to meet GNG. What do we have so far? [1] and [2]. Well, they are not perfect but they seem sufficient. I also found Ray Gamache (13 July 2010). A History of Sports Highlights: Replayed Plays from Edison to ESPN. McFarland. pp. 169–. ISBN 978-0-7864-5664-2.. With all due respect to User:DGG, I think this time you missed the mark - the topic is notable. Again, the problem is that this article is 99% fancruft/OR, but we don't need AfD to blank most of that content.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:45, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Piotrus, not that it is germane to the present article, but look at the history of both Elizabeth Koshy (actress)) and Liza Koshy, most recently created by the user here. They have been deleted 5 times by 4 different admins; the people who nominated were also experienced editors. Except for the present editor, everyone who recreated it was a different single purpose account. My warning was for that article, and I should have specified. I also probably should have used level 3, not level 4. I think I would have been remiss had I not warned for that one. I would not have warned for this--I don't usually warn when I send to AfD, only for Speedy. DGG ( talk ) 15:57, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a very well known, long lived advertising series. These ads get discussed extensively in other sports media. Piotrus has already noted the AdWeek article about the series [3]. Here's something from TIME magazine [4] and some extensive content from a book about ESPN [5]. Lots more apparent in searches. There's not enough room in the main SportsCenter article to cover this well, so I think a separate article is warranted. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 17:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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