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Keep the article.
WP:NPOL isn't the only criteria, I have already told you on another article. She handily passes
WP:BASIC of
WP:BIO. The criteria needs multiple reliable independent secondary sources. In the absence of any source with in-depth coverage, the criteria also accepts combination of multiple sources with limited but not insignificant coverage.
In here, there is presence of multiple sources with decent in-depth coverage so even the supplementary point isn't needed. The main
WP:GNG requirement itself is met. I had added four of them.
Indian Express,
The Wire,
The Print and
News Click.
But someone had changed the article completely and turned it into a resume kind of page. That someone had removed all these references and replaced it with an article in
Keep the article has a good writing. It covered the cause of her notability for being "involved in social work and activism through 2014 to 2018, and eventually came to the limelight during the CAA-NRC protests". It just need a little bit of cleaning i guess.
Hi Bree! (
talk)
09:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC) (Removed per
WP:SOCKSTRIKE)reply
Strong Delete part of an big sockpuppet campaign, and clearly fails
WP:NPOL.
You yourself have 33 edits, all of them in AfD. How does that happen?
There is in fact in-depth coverage of her. Maybe there is a "sockpuppet campaign" around this article but it shouldn't matter if she actually passes
WP:GNG. They should just be kept away.
MrMkG (
talk)
02:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. I'm not an expert in NPOL or
NEWSORGINDIA but there does seem to be decent coverage of this person in RS. However, these are all from spring 2022 and WP:N requires sustained coverage. Perhaps @
MrMkG could find coverage from other time periods?
JoelleJay (
talk)
15:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Additional input regarding the sources presented herein would be beneficial toward establishing a solid, guideline- and policy-based consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America100011:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: Donating blood isn't notable, details on her husband aren't notable... I only see routine election coverage. I don't see notability.
Oaktree b (
talk)
15:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Doctor that ran for public office, raised their vote count for the party, but no coverage beyond that. Coverage of political candidates is usually done to keep the public informed, but doesn't help here if they are no different than any other of the hundreds of candidates each year around the world.
Oaktree b (
talk)
15:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
What did you read? She isn't a doctor who donated blood.
Please explain to me, how full length profiles as articles can be called routine coverage? The hundreds of politicians or candidates don't get that.
MrMkG (
talk)
05:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Source 7 in the article. Please review again. Full-length articles are significant, but she's only known for being a candidate, which isn't what's needed here for notability. Extensive coverage of a non-notable person doesn't help.
Oaktree b (
talk)
17:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This was a
post-poll coverage of her, this can't be an informational bit on candidate for voters to consider for an upcoming election, can it? Unless you say this is also to "keep the public informed" then any coverage of anything is to keep the public informed and no politician can be notable if they don't have a legislative office but the guidelines don't say that. Here is
another source, not in the context of any particular election. It talks about her impact in relation to the sitting CM from the rival party. Is this also routine coverage? If so what isn't routine coverage?
MrMkG (
talk)
05:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)reply
It's fine, but she's only known for being a political candidate, that's not notable here. Unless she wins a seat in the legislature, I don't see notability as being met.
Oaktree b (
talk)
17:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)reply
But that means she passes the criteria then. Politicians can be notable according to the criteria even if they don't have a seat.
It is also less so that she is known for being a candidate but that she is a known politician, being candidates in elections is just what they do and what gets discussed a lot.
MrMkG (
talk)
20:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Keep the article.
WP:NPOL isn't the only criteria, I have already told you on another article. She handily passes
WP:BASIC of
WP:BIO. The criteria needs multiple reliable independent secondary sources. In the absence of any source with in-depth coverage, the criteria also accepts combination of multiple sources with limited but not insignificant coverage.
In here, there is presence of multiple sources with decent in-depth coverage so even the supplementary point isn't needed. The main
WP:GNG requirement itself is met. I had added four of them.
Indian Express,
The Wire,
The Print and
News Click.
But someone had changed the article completely and turned it into a resume kind of page. That someone had removed all these references and replaced it with an article in
Keep the article has a good writing. It covered the cause of her notability for being "involved in social work and activism through 2014 to 2018, and eventually came to the limelight during the CAA-NRC protests". It just need a little bit of cleaning i guess.
Hi Bree! (
talk)
09:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC) (Removed per
WP:SOCKSTRIKE)reply
Strong Delete part of an big sockpuppet campaign, and clearly fails
WP:NPOL.
You yourself have 33 edits, all of them in AfD. How does that happen?
There is in fact in-depth coverage of her. Maybe there is a "sockpuppet campaign" around this article but it shouldn't matter if she actually passes
WP:GNG. They should just be kept away.
MrMkG (
talk)
02:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. I'm not an expert in NPOL or
NEWSORGINDIA but there does seem to be decent coverage of this person in RS. However, these are all from spring 2022 and WP:N requires sustained coverage. Perhaps @
MrMkG could find coverage from other time periods?
JoelleJay (
talk)
15:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Additional input regarding the sources presented herein would be beneficial toward establishing a solid, guideline- and policy-based consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America100011:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: Donating blood isn't notable, details on her husband aren't notable... I only see routine election coverage. I don't see notability.
Oaktree b (
talk)
15:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Doctor that ran for public office, raised their vote count for the party, but no coverage beyond that. Coverage of political candidates is usually done to keep the public informed, but doesn't help here if they are no different than any other of the hundreds of candidates each year around the world.
Oaktree b (
talk)
15:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
What did you read? She isn't a doctor who donated blood.
Please explain to me, how full length profiles as articles can be called routine coverage? The hundreds of politicians or candidates don't get that.
MrMkG (
talk)
05:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Source 7 in the article. Please review again. Full-length articles are significant, but she's only known for being a candidate, which isn't what's needed here for notability. Extensive coverage of a non-notable person doesn't help.
Oaktree b (
talk)
17:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This was a
post-poll coverage of her, this can't be an informational bit on candidate for voters to consider for an upcoming election, can it? Unless you say this is also to "keep the public informed" then any coverage of anything is to keep the public informed and no politician can be notable if they don't have a legislative office but the guidelines don't say that. Here is
another source, not in the context of any particular election. It talks about her impact in relation to the sitting CM from the rival party. Is this also routine coverage? If so what isn't routine coverage?
MrMkG (
talk)
05:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)reply
It's fine, but she's only known for being a political candidate, that's not notable here. Unless she wins a seat in the legislature, I don't see notability as being met.
Oaktree b (
talk)
17:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)reply
But that means she passes the criteria then. Politicians can be notable according to the criteria even if they don't have a seat.
It is also less so that she is known for being a candidate but that she is a known politician, being candidates in elections is just what they do and what gets discussed a lot.
MrMkG (
talk)
20:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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