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The result was delete. Yunshui 雲 水 09:45, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Magnificent Seven (business schools)
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Article lacks sufficient independent sources to establish the notability of the subject ElKevbo ( talk) 05:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- At a minimum it should probably be M7 (business schools) since there seems to be some disagreement on whether it is Magnificent or Magic 7 or some other M word. A Forbes article from December 2015 uses the term M7 ( https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattsymonds/2015/12/30/the-sum-of-all-the-business-school-rankings-of-2015/#653037e45637), but, I couldn't find much earlier. I couldn't seem to find it in a google books search. -- Erp ( talk) 06:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:23, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
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CAPTAIN RAJU
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06:23, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Please note that the "Forbes article" is really an "article written by a Forbes contributor" so it's essentially a blog post or editorial that is not endorsed by Forbes editors.
ElKevbo (
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12:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- I was mostly trying to date earliest use. This has not been a term used for long and the top seven schools is almost certain to change over time (unlike terms like 'Ivy League' which have been around for a while and aren't rank dependent). The major user of the term seems to be a web site Poets & Quants. I'm inclined to Delete.-- Erp ( talk) 14:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Please note that the "Forbes article" is really an "article written by a Forbes contributor" so it's essentially a blog post or editorial that is not endorsed by Forbes editors.
ElKevbo (
talk)
12:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails Wikipedia:Notability (neologisms)... errr, I mean WP:GNG. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:47, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- delete just marketing crap sourced to crappy blogs, a Forbes contributor, and the schools themselves, that has been spammed into each of the relevant business school pages as well as this page being created, all by a determined user named "M7bswiki" (now renamed to Genericusername9631. I had, btw, tagged this for speedy deletion as spam, and M7bswiki, in violation of the WP:SPEEDY policy, stripped the tag here. Universities themselves (and their contractors) as well as alum are some of the most tenacious abusers of WP for promotion; their reputations are their main selling point and they see WP as a vehicle for saying How Great They Are. We have an essay just for them: WP:BOOSTER. This is entirely typical of that genre. Jytdog ( talk) 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Cringe. Jytdog has constantly been intimidating and harassing my page as if he's an administrator with the intent to finally prove his unshaken and belief that I'm a paid advertiser. What an obnoxious, tumultuous user. Why don't you shove your "righteous duty to uphold the five pillars of Wikipedia" right up your ass. As for the page, it's up for the Wikipedia community to decide whether to delete (and surprise, I'm not anal about it), but the information I provided has been there for several years long before my participation in Wikipedia. To sum up, I have no affiliation with any of the schools mentioned and could not care if the community decides to delete; what bothers me is the persistent online harassment by a particular disruptive user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Genericusername9631 ( talk • contribs) 14:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 16:46, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Reviewing strictly for notability, this fails WP:GNG. The references included on the page are not reliable. Even the Forbes piece is written by a contributor so it needs to be taken more of an opinion piece than a reliable source. The others are not independent as they are from university websites who are part of the terminology. I found a few references such as Financial Times which verify the term is used, but there is nothing out there that gives any depth to the term to meet notability guidelines. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 20:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Marketing crap, towards manufacturing some elitist cachet. I never heard of this term, and I would have if it had any merit. -- Doncram ( talk) 07:00, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Mainly sourced by Forbes, Poets & Quants user-generated contributors and MBA promotional websites. Also potentially confusing with some non-notable organizations like M7 Financial (now mbaMission, founded by Jeremy Shinewald) [1] [2] It is not clear which poll of the List of United States graduate business school rankings determines M7 and whether membership can change. There's M7 stuff in each of the business school articles, so that should be scrubbed depending on the results of this AFD. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 18:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - marketing crap. Smallbones( smalltalk) 02:31, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Yunshui 雲 水 09:45, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Magnificent Seven (business schools)
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Article lacks sufficient independent sources to establish the notability of the subject ElKevbo ( talk) 05:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- At a minimum it should probably be M7 (business schools) since there seems to be some disagreement on whether it is Magnificent or Magic 7 or some other M word. A Forbes article from December 2015 uses the term M7 ( https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattsymonds/2015/12/30/the-sum-of-all-the-business-school-rankings-of-2015/#653037e45637), but, I couldn't find much earlier. I couldn't seem to find it in a google books search. -- Erp ( talk) 06:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:23, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
list of Schools-related deletion discussions.
CAPTAIN RAJU
(T)
06:23, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Please note that the "Forbes article" is really an "article written by a Forbes contributor" so it's essentially a blog post or editorial that is not endorsed by Forbes editors.
ElKevbo (
talk)
12:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- I was mostly trying to date earliest use. This has not been a term used for long and the top seven schools is almost certain to change over time (unlike terms like 'Ivy League' which have been around for a while and aren't rank dependent). The major user of the term seems to be a web site Poets & Quants. I'm inclined to Delete.-- Erp ( talk) 14:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Please note that the "Forbes article" is really an "article written by a Forbes contributor" so it's essentially a blog post or editorial that is not endorsed by Forbes editors.
ElKevbo (
talk)
12:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails Wikipedia:Notability (neologisms)... errr, I mean WP:GNG. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:47, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- delete just marketing crap sourced to crappy blogs, a Forbes contributor, and the schools themselves, that has been spammed into each of the relevant business school pages as well as this page being created, all by a determined user named "M7bswiki" (now renamed to Genericusername9631. I had, btw, tagged this for speedy deletion as spam, and M7bswiki, in violation of the WP:SPEEDY policy, stripped the tag here. Universities themselves (and their contractors) as well as alum are some of the most tenacious abusers of WP for promotion; their reputations are their main selling point and they see WP as a vehicle for saying How Great They Are. We have an essay just for them: WP:BOOSTER. This is entirely typical of that genre. Jytdog ( talk) 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Cringe. Jytdog has constantly been intimidating and harassing my page as if he's an administrator with the intent to finally prove his unshaken and belief that I'm a paid advertiser. What an obnoxious, tumultuous user. Why don't you shove your "righteous duty to uphold the five pillars of Wikipedia" right up your ass. As for the page, it's up for the Wikipedia community to decide whether to delete (and surprise, I'm not anal about it), but the information I provided has been there for several years long before my participation in Wikipedia. To sum up, I have no affiliation with any of the schools mentioned and could not care if the community decides to delete; what bothers me is the persistent online harassment by a particular disruptive user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Genericusername9631 ( talk • contribs) 14:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 16:46, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Reviewing strictly for notability, this fails WP:GNG. The references included on the page are not reliable. Even the Forbes piece is written by a contributor so it needs to be taken more of an opinion piece than a reliable source. The others are not independent as they are from university websites who are part of the terminology. I found a few references such as Financial Times which verify the term is used, but there is nothing out there that gives any depth to the term to meet notability guidelines. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 20:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Marketing crap, towards manufacturing some elitist cachet. I never heard of this term, and I would have if it had any merit. -- Doncram ( talk) 07:00, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Mainly sourced by Forbes, Poets & Quants user-generated contributors and MBA promotional websites. Also potentially confusing with some non-notable organizations like M7 Financial (now mbaMission, founded by Jeremy Shinewald) [1] [2] It is not clear which poll of the List of United States graduate business school rankings determines M7 and whether membership can change. There's M7 stuff in each of the business school articles, so that should be scrubbed depending on the results of this AFD. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 18:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - marketing crap. Smallbones( smalltalk) 02:31, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.