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The result was redirect to The Sun Ra Arkestra. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NMUSIC ---- Rdp060707| talk 10:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 10:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 10:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Sun Ra Arkestra. He is not mentioned at that article, but that is a problem over there that can be solved through the editing process. Mr. Ali was a documented member of that notable jazz ensemble but never received much notice for any additional activities. Most of his individual coverage is in the form of obituaries, including one very informative obituary here: [1], but that still does not add up to individual notability outside the group. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sun Ra: After this AfD began, I added a few references to this article. The subject's biography of intermittent involvement in both the Sun Ra Arkestra and the Nation of Islam, his time in Africa, etc., could make an interesting case study, but I don't see the references now in the article or the brief mentions of him in Szwed's "Space is the Place" as sufficient to demonstrate WP:MUSICBIO notability. I differ slightly from Doomsdayer520 above, in that I suggest the Sun Ra article, where the subject is mentioned, as a redirect target. One day, someone may take the time to distinguish the two articles, particularly the list of musicians (which includes some involved in the Arkestra only after Sun Ra's death). AllyD ( talk) 18:16, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Sun Ra Arkestra. The significance of Lugman Ali has to do with his work with the band, so that seems to be the appropriate redirect target. As mentioned by Doomsdayer520, his name can be added to the article along with any other past members. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 16:06, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to The Sun Ra Arkestra. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NMUSIC ---- Rdp060707| talk 10:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ---- Rdp060707| talk 10:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. ---- Rdp060707| talk 10:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. ---- Rdp060707| talk 10:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 10:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 10:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Sun Ra Arkestra. He is not mentioned at that article, but that is a problem over there that can be solved through the editing process. Mr. Ali was a documented member of that notable jazz ensemble but never received much notice for any additional activities. Most of his individual coverage is in the form of obituaries, including one very informative obituary here: [1], but that still does not add up to individual notability outside the group. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sun Ra: After this AfD began, I added a few references to this article. The subject's biography of intermittent involvement in both the Sun Ra Arkestra and the Nation of Islam, his time in Africa, etc., could make an interesting case study, but I don't see the references now in the article or the brief mentions of him in Szwed's "Space is the Place" as sufficient to demonstrate WP:MUSICBIO notability. I differ slightly from Doomsdayer520 above, in that I suggest the Sun Ra article, where the subject is mentioned, as a redirect target. One day, someone may take the time to distinguish the two articles, particularly the list of musicians (which includes some involved in the Arkestra only after Sun Ra's death). AllyD ( talk) 18:16, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Sun Ra Arkestra. The significance of Lugman Ali has to do with his work with the band, so that seems to be the appropriate redirect target. As mentioned by Doomsdayer520, his name can be added to the article along with any other past members. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 16:06, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.