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The result was delete. The majority of the keep votes seem to be citing non policy based reasons for keeping and the sourcing has not been shown to be sufficient. Spartaz Humbug! 21:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Katie Nixon
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Fails WP:GNG, only trivial mentions across all sources. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 18:05, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep It does not fail
WP:GNG, the person is a European Champion, which is pretty significant bearing in mind that she is a champion of an entire continent within his sport. She also competed in the Commonwealth Games and the World Championships. (Furthermore it is a stub). The sources include the Commonwealth Games Federation, the BBC and Bowls Europe. I cannot understand why the article has been proposed for deletion.
Pipesmoking Legend (
talk) 20:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- GNG clearly asks for significant coverage. Where is this? Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete My searching finds nothing helpful to satisfy WP:GNG. Sports specific notability has nothing about lawn bowling and being a European Champion, while significant, seems not to generate significant coverage. Happy to reconsider if better sources are identified. Gab4gab ( talk) 21:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. European and British champion in her sport would appear to equate to notability. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 12:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at
sports notability I do find some sports where European or British championships would suggest notability, but not for lawn bowling and not in general for any sport.
Gab4gab (
talk) 13:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- In general we have held that people who have won a national championship title of a major country in any sport are notable. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 23:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NSPORTS says, for some sports, that winning a particular championship indicates sufficient coverage is likely to exist. So it's quite a leap to have extended that guidance to any sport in your past decisions. However things do change and a recent Sports notability request for comment was closed with consensus to require at least one source with significant coverage in a sports biography. This article has no sources with significant coverage. Gab4gab ( talk) 11:15, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- In general we have held that people who have won a national championship title of a major country in any sport are notable. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 23:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at
sports notability I do find some sports where European or British championships would suggest notability, but not for lawn bowling and not in general for any sport.
Gab4gab (
talk) 13:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete Coverage is too insignificant. >>> Extorc. talk 06:55, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Pipesmoking Legend and Necrothesp, and WP:NSPORTS. Even if there is minor coverage across all sources, the combined coverage of all sources is quite significant, and the athlete is a champion. Huggums537 ( talk) 04:32, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Per the following source assessment table, there is no significant coverage, despite WP:GNG requiring multiple, and WP:SPORTCRIT #5 requiring deletion if no significant coverage can be found.
Source assessment table:
| ||||
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| http://g2014results.thecgf.com/athlete/cycling_road/1023633/katie_nixon.html | 
|
? |  Stats only
|
✘ No |
| https://www.bbc.com/sport/bowls/35916450 |
|
|
Passing mention
|
✘ No |
| https://bowlseurope.com/ebu-team-championships-2011/ |
|
? | Not mentioned
|
✘ No |
| https://britishislesbowls.com/history-of-the-bibc/previous-winners/ | ? | ? | Stats only
|
✘ No |
| https://www.bbc.com/sport/commonwealth-games/28574558 |
|
|
Limited to a brief statistical summary of her teams participation in the quarter finals of the commonwealth games
|
✘ No |
| https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/13287432.england-piped-to-top-bowls-prize/ |
|
|
Passing mention
|
✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
- BilledMammal ( talk) 08:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Nixon is an athlete who has received coverage multiple times in national news media such as the BBC. The most substantive BBC article covering Nixon is this one. In sum, I agree with the "keep" side here. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:41, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The majority of the keep votes seem to be citing non policy based reasons for keeping and the sourcing has not been shown to be sufficient. Spartaz Humbug! 21:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Katie Nixon
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Fails WP:GNG, only trivial mentions across all sources. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 18:05, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep It does not fail
WP:GNG, the person is a European Champion, which is pretty significant bearing in mind that she is a champion of an entire continent within his sport. She also competed in the Commonwealth Games and the World Championships. (Furthermore it is a stub). The sources include the Commonwealth Games Federation, the BBC and Bowls Europe. I cannot understand why the article has been proposed for deletion.
Pipesmoking Legend (
talk) 20:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- GNG clearly asks for significant coverage. Where is this? Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete My searching finds nothing helpful to satisfy WP:GNG. Sports specific notability has nothing about lawn bowling and being a European Champion, while significant, seems not to generate significant coverage. Happy to reconsider if better sources are identified. Gab4gab ( talk) 21:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. European and British champion in her sport would appear to equate to notability. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 12:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at
sports notability I do find some sports where European or British championships would suggest notability, but not for lawn bowling and not in general for any sport.
Gab4gab (
talk) 13:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- In general we have held that people who have won a national championship title of a major country in any sport are notable. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 23:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NSPORTS says, for some sports, that winning a particular championship indicates sufficient coverage is likely to exist. So it's quite a leap to have extended that guidance to any sport in your past decisions. However things do change and a recent Sports notability request for comment was closed with consensus to require at least one source with significant coverage in a sports biography. This article has no sources with significant coverage. Gab4gab ( talk) 11:15, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- In general we have held that people who have won a national championship title of a major country in any sport are notable. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 23:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at
sports notability I do find some sports where European or British championships would suggest notability, but not for lawn bowling and not in general for any sport.
Gab4gab (
talk) 13:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Goldsztajn ( talk) 22:24, 4 May 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Coverage is too insignificant. >>> Extorc. talk 06:55, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Pipesmoking Legend and Necrothesp, and WP:NSPORTS. Even if there is minor coverage across all sources, the combined coverage of all sources is quite significant, and the athlete is a champion. Huggums537 ( talk) 04:32, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Per the following source assessment table, there is no significant coverage, despite WP:GNG requiring multiple, and WP:SPORTCRIT #5 requiring deletion if no significant coverage can be found.
Source assessment table:
| ||||
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| http://g2014results.thecgf.com/athlete/cycling_road/1023633/katie_nixon.html |
|
? | Stats only
|
✘ No |
| https://www.bbc.com/sport/bowls/35916450 |
|
|
Passing mention
|
✘ No |
| https://bowlseurope.com/ebu-team-championships-2011/ |
|
? | Not mentioned
|
✘ No |
| https://britishislesbowls.com/history-of-the-bibc/previous-winners/ | ? | ? | Stats only
|
✘ No |
| https://www.bbc.com/sport/commonwealth-games/28574558 |
|
|
Limited to a brief statistical summary of her teams participation in the quarter finals of the commonwealth games
|
✘ No |
| https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/13287432.england-piped-to-top-bowls-prize/ |
|
|
Passing mention
|
✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
- BilledMammal ( talk) 08:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Nixon is an athlete who has received coverage multiple times in national news media such as the BBC. The most substantive BBC article covering Nixon is this one. In sum, I agree with the "keep" side here. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:41, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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