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The result was delete. Sam Walton ( talk) 09:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC) reply

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Artist, academic. I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (biographies) requirement. " It was deprodded by User:Lincolnspencer with the following rationale "Deleted reviewers note & added response in Talk Pages". Unfortunately, the creator never followed up improving the article after asking what to do on my talk page (I responded at User_talk:Lincolnspencer#Proposed_deletion_of_June_Julian). Bottom line: I don't see how she passes either WP:ARTIST or WP:PROF. Coverage is in passing; I see no in-depth works about here. Not all academic or artists are notable, and this seems to be the case here. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:01, 4 September 2015 (UTC) reply

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Keep Works held in museums, she's shown around the world, etc. She shouldn't be deleted. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 01:48, 5 September 2015 (UTC) reply

@ Megalibrarygirl: Can you provide sources for that? Those claims in the article are uncited, see also New Media Theorist's comment below. -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:16, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Comment @ Piotrus: you're right... I was looking at claims from article. I may have been hasty and I'm sorry for that. New Media does have a good point about her being a vibrant contributor. Wouldn't that be an academic notability keep then? Has anyone searched her on lexis nexus? I can try looking thete on Tuesday or Wednesday. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 03:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply

@ Megalibrarygirl: I tried Google Scholar, I see no profile, and only one article from 1997 with 11 citations that seems to match her name and field of work ( [1]). If what is at June_Julian#Published_works is her best selection of works, I doubt she comes close to WP:PROF. If you are in humanities and you are listing conference papers as your best "published" works, it's not a good sign... -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:34, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Let me search Lexis Nexus after Labor Day. I'll have access by Wednesday at the latest. If I find nothing, I'm ok with changing my vote. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 12:25, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply

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• Delete I agree with nominator. Coverage is very widely spread across different subjects: a show here, a paper on online learning there. I searched "June Julian museum" and could not find a museum with an online listing of her works. Nothing in Google Books. Notable artists are in books. I did find this link indicating that she is in the member's juried group exhibition at the Drawing Center, which is not really high profile show. Artists with as big a career as the Wiki page would have us believe are not usually in member's shows... She is no doubt a vibrant and professional contributor to art and art education, but I don't think she's a notable one. If kept, the article will hopefully be transformed from its current promotional resumé-speak. New Media Theorist ( talk) 02:38, 6 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom and New Media Theorist; I simply can't find extensive coverage...or any coverage for that matter. Non-notable as of this moment. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 18:45, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete. The article claims that her work is in permanent collections of museums, and in particular sites two, one of which is the Noyes museum. But on the Noyes museum site I could find only a brochure for a workshop and a press release for a temporary group exhibit in which the subject's name was one of several listed at the end in a sentence about "also appearing in..." So to me, this is a failure of verification that means we should apply stricter scrutiny to everything in the article, a standard that I don't think it stands up to. I don't see any independent and verifiable evidence of passing WP:ARTIST. — David Eppstein ( talk) 20:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply

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