The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC) reply

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Falls short of WP:ENT, no sigcov found. At most, found in passing mention. InvadingInvader ( talk) 21:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Music. InvadingInvader ( talk) 21:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: This article, being on WP for more than seven years, was having no problems at all, until the above editor came along (Broadway biased obviously, and most likely following my edits of today). So keep it then. Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 22:27, 25 October 2022 (UTC) reply

I did not previously know you edited this article today, and above is a personal attack of which I've stricken out. Please read Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Thanks, InvadingInvader ( talk) 22:49, 25 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Appologies if you think that was an attack, but at the same time, that was an attack on me, in accordance to the rest of what I stated above. Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 23:02, 25 October 2022 (UTC) reply

AFD nominations aren't personal attacks nor are they intended to be. Read Help:My article got nominated for deletion!, and focus more so on the article rather than the nomination. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 23:06, 25 October 2022 (UTC) reply

You got it! Now, you do the same, no more attacks! Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 23:08, 25 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Comment while her site isn't usable, any leads on the Billboard article she references on her site? That could help with GNG as she doesn't currently appear to meet N:MUSIC as it's currently written. Star Mississippi 00:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Star Mississippi: Okay, since I like you as a person, go ahead and have it deleted then. I saved what I wanted from it on my page. No hard feelings. Have a nice night! Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 01:08, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi @ Discographer. Sorry, I should be more clear. There's a route to potential notability via GNG/WP:BIO. I can't find the Billboard article, which is why I haven't cast a vote in either direction, but we have time to find it. Alternatively, I'm happy to move this to your draft space if you want to work on it. I think N:MUSIC has changed since you wrote this, I don't at all think you spent time writing about someone you didn't think was notable. Star Mississippi 01:15, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Star Mississippi:, Thanks, it's okay though, I probably wouldn't be getting back to it anyway. Her claim to fame are her songs from the 1987 U.S. version of the Starlight Express concept album, that's pretty much it. Thanks anyway though. Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 01:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply

The article does seem to have potential...see WP:HEY. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 18:11, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply

I absolutely agree there's potential. That's why I wanted to find the Billboard article. If you feel so as nominator, this doesn't need to run seven days and you can withdraw it @ InvadingInvader Star Mississippi 21:22, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply

I'd like to see if editors think that this should be returned to draftspace or improved in main space. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 21:36, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Gotcha. Personally I think the benefits of draftifying a seven year old article are slim. It can either be improved in mainspace, or will likely just expire in six months. Based on what @ Cielquiparle has added, my opinion is that improvement in mainspace will be sufficiently productive. But that's just me as an editor, not as an admin. Star Mississippi 00:37, 27 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Ok done now. Cielquiparle ( talk) 09:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex ( talk) 02:52, 26 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Keep per WP:BASIC. Expanded with several independent, reliable sources and layered in details from existing ones, but in terms of SIGCOV, would point to the 1978 Chicago Tribune feature ("Josie Aiello gives diners a side order of Streisand") and the 2000 Los Angeles Times pop scene column which gave her three paragraphs in the "Out and About" section and said she had a "Richter scale voice". Cielquiparle ( talk) 10:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Keep per WP:HEY and WP:BASIC - there is secondary context and commentary about her career in independent and reliable coverage over time. Beccaynr ( talk) 16:32, 27 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Keep per HEY. No objections to it. Bearian ( talk) 19:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.