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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 00:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
John Moore (bluegrass musician)
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This article has no sources and no indication of notability. It was nominated for deletion nearly 20 years ago and has not been improved since it was created in 2005. The subject does not meet any of the guidelines listed in WP:NMUSIC nor WP:NBIO.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aneirinn ( talk • contribs) 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Aneirinn ( talk) 17:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - It is important to note that the WP:NMUSICIAN requirements have gotten much tougher since 2006, when this article survived an AfD discussion pretty much because the gentleman was visible on the Internet. Meanwhile, the current version of the article could possibly be speedy deleted under WP:A7 because it makes no attempt to say how/if he is notable. At any rate, the gentleman is a perennial sideman and local performer who is surely good at what he does, but he has not received the in-depth media coverage that is necessary here, and is only visible in typical streaming and promotional services. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Redirect to Byron Berline: I searched but could not find in-depth coverage about Moore. It's not an easy search because of his name and he's played at many bluegrass festivals so a lot hot hits to wade through but I did add a couple sources at least for verification. He was in Berline's band California which won International Bluegrass Music Association Instrumental Group of the Year three years in a row and Moore is mentioned in article. He also taught mandolin to Nickel Creek's Chris Thile and Sean Watkins which might qualify for WP:NMUSICOTHER #3 or #5 but I think that's a weak claim. S0091 ( talk) 16:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)- Delete per my comments below. S0091 ( talk) 18:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk) 18:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk) 19:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I voted to delete above, but if this keeps getting relisted with no further progress then we will probably end up with a pointless "no consensus". Therefore I would support the Redirect suggestion above if nobody else votes. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 12:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. S0091 has made a valiant effort but I don't think this is a good redirect. If you searched for John Moore and were redirected to this article, I think you'd feel more confused than informed. (Sorry, Doomsdayer520, but I think even "no consensus" would be better than this confusing redirect.) -- asilvering ( talk) 03:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- My first choice is still Delete and will I stick with it now that I have some support. ---
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16:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- No backsies @ Doomsdayer520. :) Actually, I agree with @ Asilvering it's not a great redirect as there is no content to preserve in the event sources become available and a weak target so flipping my vote to delete. S0091 ( talk) 18:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- My first choice is still Delete and will I stick with it now that I have some support. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
16:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 00:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
John Moore (bluegrass musician)
AfDs for this article:
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- John Moore (bluegrass musician) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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This article has no sources and no indication of notability. It was nominated for deletion nearly 20 years ago and has not been improved since it was created in 2005. The subject does not meet any of the guidelines listed in WP:NMUSIC nor WP:NBIO.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aneirinn ( talk • contribs) 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Aneirinn ( talk) 17:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - It is important to note that the WP:NMUSICIAN requirements have gotten much tougher since 2006, when this article survived an AfD discussion pretty much because the gentleman was visible on the Internet. Meanwhile, the current version of the article could possibly be speedy deleted under WP:A7 because it makes no attempt to say how/if he is notable. At any rate, the gentleman is a perennial sideman and local performer who is surely good at what he does, but he has not received the in-depth media coverage that is necessary here, and is only visible in typical streaming and promotional services. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Redirect to Byron Berline: I searched but could not find in-depth coverage about Moore. It's not an easy search because of his name and he's played at many bluegrass festivals so a lot hot hits to wade through but I did add a couple sources at least for verification. He was in Berline's band California which won International Bluegrass Music Association Instrumental Group of the Year three years in a row and Moore is mentioned in article. He also taught mandolin to Nickel Creek's Chris Thile and Sean Watkins which might qualify for WP:NMUSICOTHER #3 or #5 but I think that's a weak claim. S0091 ( talk) 16:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)- Delete per my comments below. S0091 ( talk) 18:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk) 18:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shadow311 ( talk) 19:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I voted to delete above, but if this keeps getting relisted with no further progress then we will probably end up with a pointless "no consensus". Therefore I would support the Redirect suggestion above if nobody else votes. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 12:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. S0091 has made a valiant effort but I don't think this is a good redirect. If you searched for John Moore and were redirected to this article, I think you'd feel more confused than informed. (Sorry, Doomsdayer520, but I think even "no consensus" would be better than this confusing redirect.) -- asilvering ( talk) 03:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- My first choice is still Delete and will I stick with it now that I have some support. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
16:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- No backsies @ Doomsdayer520. :) Actually, I agree with @ Asilvering it's not a great redirect as there is no content to preserve in the event sources become available and a weak target so flipping my vote to delete. S0091 ( talk) 18:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- My first choice is still Delete and will I stick with it now that I have some support. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
16:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.