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The result was keep. Daniel ( talk) 23:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Eva Zu Beck
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Does not meet WP:GNG. Vloggers do not automatically meet the criteria of having a Wikipedia page based on their number of followers. Kinngjatt ( talk) 00:18, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom.-- Bettydaisies ( talk) 00:49, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per the nomination. Pahiy ( talk) 04:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, fails GNG. DmitriRomanovJr ( talk) 04:58, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:GNG. I've improved the article by adding Independent, reliable and secondary sources [1] (I just added a few from the very first page page of search result). I would've added more (obviously would've shared here too), but due to exam, I'm really short of time. Thank you. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 ( talk) 06:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:GNG/ WP:BASIC, and expand the article based on additional sources - my initial search turned up international coverage from multiple independent and reliable sources, e.g. Influencer invasion as Pakistan launches tourism push (France24/AFP, 2019), Travel influencers are invading Pakistan – but are they painting an accurate picture of the country? (Telegraph, 2019), Isolating on a desert island: Polish YouTube star skips lockdown (CNN, 2020), "Parallel Universe," Says Blogger Isolating On One Of World's Most Remote Islands, (NDTV, 2020), A YouTube star decided to stay on a remote island off the coast of Yemen after borders closed, but says she doesn't regret a thing (Insider, 2020), How western travel influencers got tangled up in Pakistan's politics (The Guardian, 2020), COVID offers Pakistan chance to focus on ecotourism (DW, 2021). Beccaynr ( talk) 15:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Keepas per WP:GNG - she has significant coverage from CNN, Dawn, Middle East Eye, The Guardian, Forbes, Gulf News, Dzień Dobry TVN, etc... and her activities have been notable enough for her to face criticism, such as in The Telegraph, etc... NHCLS ( talk) 11:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Her 'notability' seems to largely be confined to a single event, see WP:1E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ari T. Benchaim ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment WP:1E does not appear to justify deletion, because there are multiple events for which she has received significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources over several years, and per WP:1E, her significant individual role in these multiple events have been documented by multiple independent and reliable sources. Beccaynr ( talk) 21:11, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Weak delete. I concur that the notability is pretty much due to one incident. WP:TOOSOON in my book. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:54, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Article is good enough to pass WP:BASIC with reliable sources indicated above. ASTIG😎 ( ICE T • ICE CUBE) 10:00, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:16, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:16, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as per WP:GNG. The person in question has received significant media coverage (from reliable sources) for a variety of different events/reasons. The claim that the subject in question has received media coverage from a single event only is bogus. I would suggest moving the article to draft and move it back to mainspace after it is expanded based on additional sources. RajHariya ( talk) 10:49, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per the sources already listed above establishing notability and the improvements made to the article since nomination by Beccaynr and Abdulhaseebatd. NemesisAT ( talk) 22:37, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, as she has received significant coverage in many different reliable sources. Jackattack1597 ( talk) 10:33, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, per Beccaynr and NHCLS. / Julle ( talk) 10:57, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ENT, the youtuber has 68 million views. Dr. Universe ( talk) 20:58, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Daniel ( talk) 23:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Eva Zu Beck
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Does not meet WP:GNG. Vloggers do not automatically meet the criteria of having a Wikipedia page based on their number of followers. Kinngjatt ( talk) 00:18, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Kinngjatt ( talk) 00:18, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.-- Bettydaisies ( talk) 00:49, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per the nomination. Pahiy ( talk) 04:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, fails GNG. DmitriRomanovJr ( talk) 04:58, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:GNG. I've improved the article by adding Independent, reliable and secondary sources [1] (I just added a few from the very first page page of search result). I would've added more (obviously would've shared here too), but due to exam, I'm really short of time. Thank you. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 ( talk) 06:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:44, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:44, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GNG/ WP:BASIC, and expand the article based on additional sources - my initial search turned up international coverage from multiple independent and reliable sources, e.g. Influencer invasion as Pakistan launches tourism push (France24/AFP, 2019), Travel influencers are invading Pakistan – but are they painting an accurate picture of the country? (Telegraph, 2019), Isolating on a desert island: Polish YouTube star skips lockdown (CNN, 2020), "Parallel Universe," Says Blogger Isolating On One Of World's Most Remote Islands, (NDTV, 2020), A YouTube star decided to stay on a remote island off the coast of Yemen after borders closed, but says she doesn't regret a thing (Insider, 2020), How western travel influencers got tangled up in Pakistan's politics (The Guardian, 2020), COVID offers Pakistan chance to focus on ecotourism (DW, 2021). Beccaynr ( talk) 15:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Beccaynr ( talk) 16:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keepas per WP:GNG - she has significant coverage from CNN, Dawn, Middle East Eye, The Guardian, Forbes, Gulf News, Dzień Dobry TVN, etc... and her activities have been notable enough for her to face criticism, such as in The Telegraph, etc... NHCLS ( talk) 11:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Her 'notability' seems to largely be confined to a single event, see WP:1E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ari T. Benchaim ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment WP:1E does not appear to justify deletion, because there are multiple events for which she has received significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources over several years, and per WP:1E, her significant individual role in these multiple events have been documented by multiple independent and reliable sources. Beccaynr ( talk) 21:11, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Weak delete. I concur that the notability is pretty much due to one incident. WP:TOOSOON in my book. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:54, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Article is good enough to pass WP:BASIC with reliable sources indicated above. ASTIG😎 ( ICE T • ICE CUBE) 10:00, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:16, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:16, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as per WP:GNG. The person in question has received significant media coverage (from reliable sources) for a variety of different events/reasons. The claim that the subject in question has received media coverage from a single event only is bogus. I would suggest moving the article to draft and move it back to mainspace after it is expanded based on additional sources. RajHariya ( talk) 10:49, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per the sources already listed above establishing notability and the improvements made to the article since nomination by Beccaynr and Abdulhaseebatd. NemesisAT ( talk) 22:37, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, as she has received significant coverage in many different reliable sources. Jackattack1597 ( talk) 10:33, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, per Beccaynr and NHCLS. / Julle ( talk) 10:57, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ENT, the youtuber has 68 million views. Dr. Universe ( talk) 20:58, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
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