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Oppose Passes the GNG (even before his disapperance and death). ENT doesn't override GNG, and NYOUTUBE is an essay. --
Masem (
t)
22:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Doesn't matter for the GNG. As it says for BLP, "A person who does not meet these additional criteria may still be notable under Wikipedia:Notability.", so requiring ENT to be met is not appropriate. --
Masem (
t)
23:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose I strongly oppose this as I created the page and there are MANY notable and good references so I don't even know why this is a discussion. The page is trending on Wikipedia and should be kept up.
AceAlen📞23:12, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
The essay
WP:NYOUTUBE says However, in practice, editors involved in deletion debates consider that a YouTuber needs to meet *both* WP:GNG *and* WP:ENT. That's why I've nominated it.
Masum Reza📞23:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep - clearly passes
WP:GNG.
WP:ENT does not override the former as it is under the "Additonal criteria" section of the Notability policy. Meeting it only makes it more likely to be notable, but it does not guarantee it and the reverse also holds true; not meeting the additional criteria does not mean the subject in question is not notable. It meets the basic criteria as multiple reliable sources have covered on his mental episodes months prior. Not to mention the already huge coverage his death is receiving. Even if
WP:ENT did override
WP:GNG, the subject in the article still meets criteria n°2 and possibly n°3. --
letcreate123 (
talk)
23:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose this article has good references, is trending, and the person in question is a very popular figure. I don't see anything wrong with the article at all. Seems like this deletion proposal is racially motivated, if you ask me. 23:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.194.42.34 (
talk)
Can we not with the racism accusations? Even if the nomination may be poorly justified (which I agree, mind you), a proper debate is taking place and jumping to the conclusion that this AfD nomination is "racially motivated" is not the way to respond and it comes across as ad hominem. --
letcreate123 (
talk)
23:47, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep the article can stay, it has plenty of reliable citations for it to stay up. Subscriber count shouldn't determine weather an article should stay.
Michael14375 (
talk)
00:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep I should believe this article shouldn't be deleted as readers, especially most of his followers on Youtube, can read his bibliography and I should consider it staying here in the article space.
VictorTorres2002 (
talk)
00:54, 27 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep For readers of Wikipedia, like myself, there are many other YouTubers that have articles here for viewers and fans. At the time of his death, fans across social media paid numerous tributes and became trending. As he had a large fan base, deleting this is considered as disrespectful by not keeping his legacy alive.
Zacharyalejandro (
talk)
01:17, 27 June 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Oppose Passes the GNG (even before his disapperance and death). ENT doesn't override GNG, and NYOUTUBE is an essay. --
Masem (
t)
22:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Doesn't matter for the GNG. As it says for BLP, "A person who does not meet these additional criteria may still be notable under Wikipedia:Notability.", so requiring ENT to be met is not appropriate. --
Masem (
t)
23:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose I strongly oppose this as I created the page and there are MANY notable and good references so I don't even know why this is a discussion. The page is trending on Wikipedia and should be kept up.
AceAlen📞23:12, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
The essay
WP:NYOUTUBE says However, in practice, editors involved in deletion debates consider that a YouTuber needs to meet *both* WP:GNG *and* WP:ENT. That's why I've nominated it.
Masum Reza📞23:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep - clearly passes
WP:GNG.
WP:ENT does not override the former as it is under the "Additonal criteria" section of the Notability policy. Meeting it only makes it more likely to be notable, but it does not guarantee it and the reverse also holds true; not meeting the additional criteria does not mean the subject in question is not notable. It meets the basic criteria as multiple reliable sources have covered on his mental episodes months prior. Not to mention the already huge coverage his death is receiving. Even if
WP:ENT did override
WP:GNG, the subject in the article still meets criteria n°2 and possibly n°3. --
letcreate123 (
talk)
23:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose this article has good references, is trending, and the person in question is a very popular figure. I don't see anything wrong with the article at all. Seems like this deletion proposal is racially motivated, if you ask me. 23:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.194.42.34 (
talk)
Can we not with the racism accusations? Even if the nomination may be poorly justified (which I agree, mind you), a proper debate is taking place and jumping to the conclusion that this AfD nomination is "racially motivated" is not the way to respond and it comes across as ad hominem. --
letcreate123 (
talk)
23:47, 26 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep the article can stay, it has plenty of reliable citations for it to stay up. Subscriber count shouldn't determine weather an article should stay.
Michael14375 (
talk)
00:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep I should believe this article shouldn't be deleted as readers, especially most of his followers on Youtube, can read his bibliography and I should consider it staying here in the article space.
VictorTorres2002 (
talk)
00:54, 27 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep For readers of Wikipedia, like myself, there are many other YouTubers that have articles here for viewers and fans. At the time of his death, fans across social media paid numerous tributes and became trending. As he had a large fan base, deleting this is considered as disrespectful by not keeping his legacy alive.
Zacharyalejandro (
talk)
01:17, 27 June 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.