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The result was redirect to Cultural impact of the Chernobyl disaster. I don't know that there's that much to merge, but anyone wanting to incorporate it is free to do so. Stifle ( talk) 10:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Elena Filatova
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WP:SINGLEEVENT. Became notorious 11 years ago for a while after she lied about her making photos while biking Chernobyl. After than she created zero, zilch notable. We don't need monuments to liars in wikipedia, unless they made long-lasting impact on civilization. Staszek Lem ( talk) 23:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- Delete – Has not received in-depth coverage and there is no indication of notability beyond a WP:SINGLEEVENT. -- Hirolovesswords ( talk) 01:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect'
WP:SINGLEEVENT, as far as I can tell, only discusses whether to merge individuals with notable ebents. In this case, the event itself (her hoax trip) is not notable. Which takes us back to generic WP:BIO. Which is borderline - few RS, focusing primary on her trip, not her person. Which leads me to conclude that she is not notable. Her hoax trip may deserve a mention on some list of hoaxes, and/or in the
Chernobyl#In popular culture, where I recommend a one-two sentence summary with best refs is merged and redirected to. --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
16:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, WP:SINGLEEVENT addresses "whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both". In our case Chernobyl is not the event in question. And the hoax is just as forgotten ad Elena is. I.e., I don't see valid redirect target per WP:UNDUE. Staszek Lem ( talk) 21:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete per nominator. No real notability. If the WP:SINGLEEVENT she was involved in had any real impact or importance, she'd atleast have an article on ru.wiki or uk.wiki. We're giving WP:UNDUE weight to this flash in the pan hoax and its perpetrator. Rosario Berganza 05:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect as per User:Piotrus. There is nothing notable about this person , but when a hoax makes news worldwide, it is useful to have a one-sentence summary, in this case, at Chernobyl#In popular culture. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA 1000 00:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA 1000 00:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Delete(revised; see below) per WP:BLP1E. I don't think WP:SINGLEEVENT is the right guideline here - neither the person nor the event are notable. There seems to be only one source that is actually about her hoax motorcycle trip. Ivanvector ( talk) 02:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)- Merge and redirect There are a few reliable sources that mention her after the one event. However, it's all about the hoax, and after weighing it, it probably doesn't constitute significant coverage. Nwlaw63 ( talk) 14:52, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to where? There is no "popular culture" section at
Chernobyl nor at
Chernobyl disaster nor
Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, nor should there be per
WP:TRIVIA or
WP:POPCULTURE, however there is
Cultural impact of the Chernobyl disaster with a list of pop culture references, and
Chernobyl Exclusion Zone has a "people in the zone" section. Perhaps merge and redirect to
Chernobyl Exclusion Zone#Access and tourism where a very brief mention of the hoax could be appropriate.
Ivanvector (
talk)
15:40, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Merge to: Cultural impact of the Chernobyl disaster. Condense to single sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by E.M.Gregory ( talk • contribs) 15:36, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Internet notoriety ten years ago does not make someone notable today. Relentlessly ( talk) 22:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Cultural impact of the Chernobyl disaster. I don't know that there's that much to merge, but anyone wanting to incorporate it is free to do so. Stifle ( talk) 10:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Elena Filatova
AfDs for this article:
- Elena Filatova ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
WP:SINGLEEVENT. Became notorious 11 years ago for a while after she lied about her making photos while biking Chernobyl. After than she created zero, zilch notable. We don't need monuments to liars in wikipedia, unless they made long-lasting impact on civilization. Staszek Lem ( talk) 23:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- Delete – Has not received in-depth coverage and there is no indication of notability beyond a WP:SINGLEEVENT. -- Hirolovesswords ( talk) 01:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect'
WP:SINGLEEVENT, as far as I can tell, only discusses whether to merge individuals with notable ebents. In this case, the event itself (her hoax trip) is not notable. Which takes us back to generic WP:BIO. Which is borderline - few RS, focusing primary on her trip, not her person. Which leads me to conclude that she is not notable. Her hoax trip may deserve a mention on some list of hoaxes, and/or in the
Chernobyl#In popular culture, where I recommend a one-two sentence summary with best refs is merged and redirected to. --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
16:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, WP:SINGLEEVENT addresses "whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both". In our case Chernobyl is not the event in question. And the hoax is just as forgotten ad Elena is. I.e., I don't see valid redirect target per WP:UNDUE. Staszek Lem ( talk) 21:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete per nominator. No real notability. If the WP:SINGLEEVENT she was involved in had any real impact or importance, she'd atleast have an article on ru.wiki or uk.wiki. We're giving WP:UNDUE weight to this flash in the pan hoax and its perpetrator. Rosario Berganza 05:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect as per User:Piotrus. There is nothing notable about this person , but when a hoax makes news worldwide, it is useful to have a one-sentence summary, in this case, at Chernobyl#In popular culture. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA 1000 00:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA 1000 00:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Delete(revised; see below) per WP:BLP1E. I don't think WP:SINGLEEVENT is the right guideline here - neither the person nor the event are notable. There seems to be only one source that is actually about her hoax motorcycle trip. Ivanvector ( talk) 02:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)- Merge and redirect There are a few reliable sources that mention her after the one event. However, it's all about the hoax, and after weighing it, it probably doesn't constitute significant coverage. Nwlaw63 ( talk) 14:52, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to where? There is no "popular culture" section at
Chernobyl nor at
Chernobyl disaster nor
Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, nor should there be per
WP:TRIVIA or
WP:POPCULTURE, however there is
Cultural impact of the Chernobyl disaster with a list of pop culture references, and
Chernobyl Exclusion Zone has a "people in the zone" section. Perhaps merge and redirect to
Chernobyl Exclusion Zone#Access and tourism where a very brief mention of the hoax could be appropriate.
Ivanvector (
talk)
15:40, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Merge to: Cultural impact of the Chernobyl disaster. Condense to single sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by E.M.Gregory ( talk • contribs) 15:36, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Internet notoriety ten years ago does not make someone notable today. Relentlessly ( talk) 22:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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