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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 23:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Chris Gheysens
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Does not meet BIO. References fall into the follwing categories: interviews, which do not show notability; passing mention in articles on another subject, which do not show notability; unreliable sources, namely trade journals; and not independent, his alma mater. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep It's hard to take this nomination seriously. Multiple articles are included here from major newspapers, including The Philadelphia Inquirer and other major trade publications that are distinctly and inarguably about the subject. Perhaps its just spite of some kind on his part, but outside of Idegon its hard to make the argument with a straight face that there is no claim of notability supported by ample reliable and verifiable sources. Alansohn ( talk) 02:52, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - I have to agree with @
Alansohn: as this article
[1] is rather in depth, despite talking about the company, it talks about him in great detail. Also, I have no issues with the articles from his alma mater. Not sure how you would say they are not independent as the only connection to the subject is that he attended school there. In fact, most college newspapers have a rather thorough editorial process and are not in the business of promotion. --
CNMall41 (
talk) 03:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- The school is his high school. Surely you are not claiming an assuption of sound journalistic practice for a high school newspaper? Even if we were to make that assumption, it is so short as to be of no use in showing notability; it is akin to a job change notice common in many newspapers. They don't show notability either. As for the Philly Enquirer article, the content on him makes up only a small part of an already fairly short article, and the content on him is primarily him answering questions on the company. Not really what we are looking for to establish notability for a bio, is it? John from Idegon ( talk) 04:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am sure that alum from Villanova School of Business would take offense to their alma mater being referred to as a high school [2].-- CNMall41 ( talk) 02:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- John from Idegon - When you nominated the article for deletion, in an apparent fit of pique, the article had 13 sources. The claim of notability as CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation, doesn't rest on the source from his high school, whose sole purpose was to confirm details of his graduation year. The article rests on the totality of sourcing in the article, which go far above and beyond the minimal standards needed to establish notability. Attacking one source does nothing; You'd need to rebut every single one of them to start making a dent here. This kind of referencing is exactly "what we are looking for to establish notability for a bio". Alansohn ( talk) 19:35, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep. Clearly passes GNG with substantial coverage in multiple reliable sources. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 06:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 23:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Chris Gheysens
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Does not meet BIO. References fall into the follwing categories: interviews, which do not show notability; passing mention in articles on another subject, which do not show notability; unreliable sources, namely trade journals; and not independent, his alma mater. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep It's hard to take this nomination seriously. Multiple articles are included here from major newspapers, including The Philadelphia Inquirer and other major trade publications that are distinctly and inarguably about the subject. Perhaps its just spite of some kind on his part, but outside of Idegon its hard to make the argument with a straight face that there is no claim of notability supported by ample reliable and verifiable sources. Alansohn ( talk) 02:52, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - I have to agree with @
Alansohn: as this article
[1] is rather in depth, despite talking about the company, it talks about him in great detail. Also, I have no issues with the articles from his alma mater. Not sure how you would say they are not independent as the only connection to the subject is that he attended school there. In fact, most college newspapers have a rather thorough editorial process and are not in the business of promotion. --
CNMall41 (
talk) 03:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- The school is his high school. Surely you are not claiming an assuption of sound journalistic practice for a high school newspaper? Even if we were to make that assumption, it is so short as to be of no use in showing notability; it is akin to a job change notice common in many newspapers. They don't show notability either. As for the Philly Enquirer article, the content on him makes up only a small part of an already fairly short article, and the content on him is primarily him answering questions on the company. Not really what we are looking for to establish notability for a bio, is it? John from Idegon ( talk) 04:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am sure that alum from Villanova School of Business would take offense to their alma mater being referred to as a high school [2].-- CNMall41 ( talk) 02:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- John from Idegon - When you nominated the article for deletion, in an apparent fit of pique, the article had 13 sources. The claim of notability as CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation, doesn't rest on the source from his high school, whose sole purpose was to confirm details of his graduation year. The article rests on the totality of sourcing in the article, which go far above and beyond the minimal standards needed to establish notability. Attacking one source does nothing; You'd need to rebut every single one of them to start making a dent here. This kind of referencing is exactly "what we are looking for to establish notability for a bio". Alansohn ( talk) 19:35, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep. Clearly passes GNG with substantial coverage in multiple reliable sources. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 06:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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