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Anthony Rodriguez (pianist)
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Non notable Musician. Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Current overly promotional article is bombarded with sources but there is a lack of good ones. Primary sources, shops, show listings, PR. Albums are self released. He lacks charting, sales, major award. His selfpublished book lacks reviews. Nothing notable in this advert. duffbeerforme ( talk) 07:08, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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- there is no new reports of notability. duffbeerforme ( talk) 00:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Anthony Rodriguez (pianist) is notable enough. And from what I seen, like him being featured in Thumbtack (website) a source that was featured in Forbes and other major outlet. This Article is in good stance. Nomination of Deletion is a sign of not wanting to improve a page, perhaps? Sometimes modifying an Article is a better solution. Duffbeerforme, you obviously made up your mind about Rodriguez. Lastly, from my search Rodriguez is well-known in the motivational speaking circle. Featured in a Latino Nonprofit organization called Hispa.org. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StrongWik ( talk • contribs) 02:58, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- As I said, no new reports of notability. duffbeerforme ( talk) 10:34, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Duffbeerforme, You don't get to choose who is notable or not. I've seen your talk on other pages, and quite frankly, your approach in conversations by cursing on Talk Pages isn't someone I can actually speak with, and I can also see you're quick in nominating Articles for Deletion. Coming back to the point, Rodriguez is notable enough. I believe in this Article. StrongWik ( talk) 12:48, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as the article simply has tossed links and is not clear, with examining, how the listed sources are solidly enough for solid independent notability. Delete at best, SwisterTwister talk 06:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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Keep the page alive. Anthony Rodriguez (pianist) has won a Major Award, 2005 Bronze Telly Award - Composer and pianist to the soundtrack of the "Tangys Song" This film was played in the BET channel and in Festivals. The soundtracks in this film were played and has Anthony Rodriguez's musicality in the film. IMDb There are notable musicians that are successful and self-released, holding distribution deals just like Anthony. The search has to be executed better. This Article has notability. Please consider removing this nomination for deletion. StrongWik ( talk) 18:23, 12 April 2016 (UTC) — StrongWik ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Bronze Tellys are not major awards, they are more akin to confetti. From the way this Wikipedia article is written it appears the film won the Telly, not Rodriguez. There is also no independent verification from a credible source. duffbeerforme ( talk) 00:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Not a major award? I would have to respectfully disagree with that. The Telly Awards is a huge award. Rodriguez along with the whole production team won. It's like an album winning a Grammy, everyone involved wins the award. Each person played an important role in getting the project an award. Just because to you its an akin confetti, doesn't mean it is. I've been researching Anthony Rodriguez throughout the day, along with other articles in which I will edit tomorrow sometime. There needs to be respect for all types of awards and some in here clearly agree with my prior statement. I stand with this article and I ask again to please consider removing the nomination of deletion. Whatever can be done to better the article, I will try to do so. Thanks. StrongWik ( talk) 02:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- The only thing huge about the Telly Awards is the huge number they sell. 1200 silver and 3000 bronze. Unlike winning a grammy (Grammies decide who gets it) anyone involve can say they "won" a Telly just so long as the pay their fee. Unlike Grammies, buyers of Bronze tellies are not announced by the organisers, lists are not published in the media. Noone would know who "won" unless the "winner" announces it themselves after paying for the right to do so. duffbeerforme ( talk) 10:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. I did manage to find some sources that appear to meet the criterion for WP:GNG, such as this interview, this review, this article, this source, this interview, this interview, and this one. Is there enough to assert significant coverage? I think so - there's enough coverage where no original research is needed in order to extract information and create an article. The issue I'm having is with WP:NMUSIC and WP:NAUTHOR. I don't believe that the article subject meets any notability criterion involving people. He doesn't seem to meet WP:NMUSIC, as his music doesn't appear to have reached any national charts or won any national or notable awards. I also don't believe that the person meets WP:NAUTHOR as well, as his literary work hasn't made him a significant or important figure or monument nor has it originated a new concept. Sure, having your book as an Amazon best-seller is great, but I couldn't locate any independent sources outside of Amazon that discuss his success as an author or any national awards that his books have won. Falling back to WP:ANYBIO, he hasn't won a significant award or honor and he hasn't made a widely recognized contribution that is part of any enduring historical record (or history). So, he doesn't appear to meet that guideline as well. When it comes to the general notability guideline, I think that is arguable if the requirements are met or not - sources do exist that appear to check out. However, when it comes to asserting the notability of the article subject as a person, I think he still falls short. Hence, I am going with delete. ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 13:18, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Anthony Rodriguez (pianist) was interviewed on a award winning music website that interviews Major Artists Exposed Vocals StrongWik ( talk) 11:57, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Rodriguez paying a PR service to interview him is no indication of notability. duffbeerforme ( talk) 02:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Paying? I don't think so. And from the last time I heard everything isn't free. Joining the Grammies isn't FREE, Joining anything that awards Artist isn't free. Your accusation seems a bit much Duffbeerforme. In the music industry you'll be surprised how celebrities get through the ranks. Lastly, this reference is notable.
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- Interview is put online on 18 April 2016, you post here 18 April 2016. Coincidence? Of course not.
Get your Interview published within 24 hours. Only costs 4.99. 24 hours! that's quick enough to help with that pesky afd. At least it was only five bucks spent cause it's of no use here.
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- Active Artist is a busy artist. I have no idea about your 4.99 interviews, maybe you are involved in that game. In any case, stop hating on Rodriguez. And go after Articles that are actually wasting space here on Wiki. For someone that seems to like accusing and trying to SABOTAGE an image, you're doing a great job at it. It also seems you have something personal with this Article. I am pretty sure there's daily activity with people like Rodriguez that are constantly on the move with their careers. I stand with this Article and won't see it get deleted. StrongWik ( talk) 16:22, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Interview is put online on 18 April 2016, you post here 18 April 2016. Coincidence? Of course not.
Get your Interview published within 24 hours. Only costs 4.99. 24 hours! that's quick enough to help with that pesky afd. At least it was only five bucks spent cause it's of no use here.
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- Delete Per the results and explanation given by Oshwah. There's a lot of PR gobbleygook going on in this article, and I detect a hint of possible WP:COI going on as well. RickinBaltimore ( talk) 16:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Yamamoto Ichiro ( talk) 17:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Anthony Rodriguez (pianist)
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Non notable Musician. Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Current overly promotional article is bombarded with sources but there is a lack of good ones. Primary sources, shops, show listings, PR. Albums are self released. He lacks charting, sales, major award. His selfpublished book lacks reviews. Nothing notable in this advert. duffbeerforme ( talk) 07:08, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Delete Not notable enough.
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- there is no new reports of notability. duffbeerforme ( talk) 00:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Anthony Rodriguez (pianist) is notable enough. And from what I seen, like him being featured in Thumbtack (website) a source that was featured in Forbes and other major outlet. This Article is in good stance. Nomination of Deletion is a sign of not wanting to improve a page, perhaps? Sometimes modifying an Article is a better solution. Duffbeerforme, you obviously made up your mind about Rodriguez. Lastly, from my search Rodriguez is well-known in the motivational speaking circle. Featured in a Latino Nonprofit organization called Hispa.org. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StrongWik ( talk • contribs) 02:58, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- As I said, no new reports of notability. duffbeerforme ( talk) 10:34, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Duffbeerforme, You don't get to choose who is notable or not. I've seen your talk on other pages, and quite frankly, your approach in conversations by cursing on Talk Pages isn't someone I can actually speak with, and I can also see you're quick in nominating Articles for Deletion. Coming back to the point, Rodriguez is notable enough. I believe in this Article. StrongWik ( talk) 12:48, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as the article simply has tossed links and is not clear, with examining, how the listed sources are solidly enough for solid independent notability. Delete at best, SwisterTwister talk 06:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 06:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 06:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 06:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 06:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Keep the page alive. Anthony Rodriguez (pianist) has won a Major Award, 2005 Bronze Telly Award - Composer and pianist to the soundtrack of the "Tangys Song" This film was played in the BET channel and in Festivals. The soundtracks in this film were played and has Anthony Rodriguez's musicality in the film. IMDb There are notable musicians that are successful and self-released, holding distribution deals just like Anthony. The search has to be executed better. This Article has notability. Please consider removing this nomination for deletion. StrongWik ( talk) 18:23, 12 April 2016 (UTC) — StrongWik ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Bronze Tellys are not major awards, they are more akin to confetti. From the way this Wikipedia article is written it appears the film won the Telly, not Rodriguez. There is also no independent verification from a credible source. duffbeerforme ( talk) 00:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Not a major award? I would have to respectfully disagree with that. The Telly Awards is a huge award. Rodriguez along with the whole production team won. It's like an album winning a Grammy, everyone involved wins the award. Each person played an important role in getting the project an award. Just because to you its an akin confetti, doesn't mean it is. I've been researching Anthony Rodriguez throughout the day, along with other articles in which I will edit tomorrow sometime. There needs to be respect for all types of awards and some in here clearly agree with my prior statement. I stand with this article and I ask again to please consider removing the nomination of deletion. Whatever can be done to better the article, I will try to do so. Thanks. StrongWik ( talk) 02:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- The only thing huge about the Telly Awards is the huge number they sell. 1200 silver and 3000 bronze. Unlike winning a grammy (Grammies decide who gets it) anyone involve can say they "won" a Telly just so long as the pay their fee. Unlike Grammies, buyers of Bronze tellies are not announced by the organisers, lists are not published in the media. Noone would know who "won" unless the "winner" announces it themselves after paying for the right to do so. duffbeerforme ( talk) 10:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. I did manage to find some sources that appear to meet the criterion for WP:GNG, such as this interview, this review, this article, this source, this interview, this interview, and this one. Is there enough to assert significant coverage? I think so - there's enough coverage where no original research is needed in order to extract information and create an article. The issue I'm having is with WP:NMUSIC and WP:NAUTHOR. I don't believe that the article subject meets any notability criterion involving people. He doesn't seem to meet WP:NMUSIC, as his music doesn't appear to have reached any national charts or won any national or notable awards. I also don't believe that the person meets WP:NAUTHOR as well, as his literary work hasn't made him a significant or important figure or monument nor has it originated a new concept. Sure, having your book as an Amazon best-seller is great, but I couldn't locate any independent sources outside of Amazon that discuss his success as an author or any national awards that his books have won. Falling back to WP:ANYBIO, he hasn't won a significant award or honor and he hasn't made a widely recognized contribution that is part of any enduring historical record (or history). So, he doesn't appear to meet that guideline as well. When it comes to the general notability guideline, I think that is arguable if the requirements are met or not - sources do exist that appear to check out. However, when it comes to asserting the notability of the article subject as a person, I think he still falls short. Hence, I am going with delete. ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 13:18, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Anthony Rodriguez (pianist) was interviewed on a award winning music website that interviews Major Artists Exposed Vocals StrongWik ( talk) 11:57, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Rodriguez paying a PR service to interview him is no indication of notability. duffbeerforme ( talk) 02:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Paying? I don't think so. And from the last time I heard everything isn't free. Joining the Grammies isn't FREE, Joining anything that awards Artist isn't free. Your accusation seems a bit much Duffbeerforme. In the music industry you'll be surprised how celebrities get through the ranks. Lastly, this reference is notable.
StrongWik (
talk) 04:31, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Interview is put online on 18 April 2016, you post here 18 April 2016. Coincidence? Of course not.
Get your Interview published within 24 hours. Only costs 4.99. 24 hours! that's quick enough to help with that pesky afd. At least it was only five bucks spent cause it's of no use here.
duffbeerforme (
talk) 13:12, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Active Artist is a busy artist. I have no idea about your 4.99 interviews, maybe you are involved in that game. In any case, stop hating on Rodriguez. And go after Articles that are actually wasting space here on Wiki. For someone that seems to like accusing and trying to SABOTAGE an image, you're doing a great job at it. It also seems you have something personal with this Article. I am pretty sure there's daily activity with people like Rodriguez that are constantly on the move with their careers. I stand with this Article and won't see it get deleted. StrongWik ( talk) 16:22, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Interview is put online on 18 April 2016, you post here 18 April 2016. Coincidence? Of course not.
Get your Interview published within 24 hours. Only costs 4.99. 24 hours! that's quick enough to help with that pesky afd. At least it was only five bucks spent cause it's of no use here.
duffbeerforme (
talk) 13:12, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Per the results and explanation given by Oshwah. There's a lot of PR gobbleygook going on in this article, and I detect a hint of possible WP:COI going on as well. RickinBaltimore ( talk) 16:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
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