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The result was delete. Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Allen Forrest
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Self Promotion created by a sock puppet for non notable individual. Albums are self released on his own vanity label. Claimed airplay is not rotation. Claimed charting is not good charts. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. This article is bombarded with sources but other than one up and coming piece from billboard (which seems very advertorial) it lacks any good ones for GNG. Quotes from him are not coverage about him. PR is not independent. Attending parties and award shows is not notability. Being in the background of a music video is not notability. Last afd close was a bad WP:NAC. duffbeerforme ( talk) 10:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - This guy comes kind of close to notability by association, but see WP:INHERITED. The article in Billboard (currently footnote #12) definitely helps, but otherwise his music has not been noticed by reliable media and this WP article has a suspicious number of citations that go to dead sites. There are some fairly reliable sources for things that have been done by his record company and charity, but those would be more valid for articles about them. Otherwise this WP article is surely an attempted promotion for a guy who is good at networking and getting himself into pictures with famous people. Good luck to him in his many ventures but a WP article will have to wait until he is noticed by someone other than himself. (Note: When searching, beware of a visual artist of the same name.) --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 16:45, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not Linkedin. People should not use it for self promotion and we need to enforce these policies for them to have meaning. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Clear case of WP:PROMOTION WP:NOT WP:NOTRESUME Wm335td ( talk) 18:46, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Every few years someone tries to discredit because they have a mere Opinion and not facts. Allen Forrest has meet the min qualifications to included on WP. If you look at the history you will see that we have already proven our case. 1. You don't get featured in Vogue and on the red carpet at the GRAMMYs if your not notable in their eyes 2. Billboard will not feature anyone that's not legit and you can't pay your way on there. 3. Allen has had several national promotions on iHeart radio via their Artist Integration Program. [1] please scroll to number 99 photo. To hear the saved promotions that have been received for Allen Forrest [2] He was recently feature here for his new business venture [3] He had viral song with singer and actress Jennifer Akerman [4] original feature [5] red carpet features [6] more features [7] [8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForrestGroup ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Yahoo feature: [9] more features [10] over 1 million plays on FB for this song "Earthquake" which was feature on BET's show "The office" [11] The Video: [12] Latest show in Amsterdam [13] Dance Videos that other created [14] — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForrestGroup ( talk • contribs) 20:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
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- ^ https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/grammys-red-carpet-celebrity-fashion#99
- ^ https://soundcloud.com/ceo/sets/iheart-promotions-for-dougie-f-brave-ones
- ^ https://www.moodiedavittreport.com/royal-favourite-charbonnel-et-walker-launches-at-selected-us-airports/
- ^ /info/en/?search=Jennifer_Åkerman
- ^ https://www.dothaneagle.com/archives/former-resident-pursues-his-dream-in-hip-hop-music/article_e55aaaa7-d7e9-5000-b949-28eaa21e91ae.html
- ^ http://www.wireimage.com/search/#events?q=Allen%20Forrest&s=1
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=grammy+friends+and+family+allen&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS556US556&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=LAjaQfnLuWO34M%253A%252Cd3GNLOqHL6E-eM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRYiwCWUn3utq8ZAzAOMvbLdR1Bsw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjMusz8npLkAhVMIDQIHYbSBY4Q9QEwAHoECAkQBg#imgrc=LAjaQfnLuWO34M:
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=Allen+Forrest+roc+nation&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS556US556&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=XnJ3_b9GhDQT_M%253A%252CvZjTbqQowRUKyM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kT4vcImjnXhexMXSMN9EtChyaRSAg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwikhsWen5LkAhUhGTQIHXqsBHcQ9QEwAHoECAkQBg#imgrc=XnJ3_b9GhDQT_M:
- ^ https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/were-most-meme-worthy-moments-042259426.html
- ^ https://joitotheworld.com/grammy-awards-2018/
- ^ http://www.facebook.com/mrallenforrest
- ^ https://www.facebook.com/MrAllenForrest/videos/10150638430614986/
- ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18QQH1W5wlM
- ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d65zeLpC9Os&list=PLfMpXsyCPhpkM5gwqT4hNigZxG1Q_uYIn
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The result was delete. Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Allen Forrest
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Self Promotion created by a sock puppet for non notable individual. Albums are self released on his own vanity label. Claimed airplay is not rotation. Claimed charting is not good charts. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. This article is bombarded with sources but other than one up and coming piece from billboard (which seems very advertorial) it lacks any good ones for GNG. Quotes from him are not coverage about him. PR is not independent. Attending parties and award shows is not notability. Being in the background of a music video is not notability. Last afd close was a bad WP:NAC. duffbeerforme ( talk) 10:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 10:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 10:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 10:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:54, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kentucky-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:54, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - This guy comes kind of close to notability by association, but see WP:INHERITED. The article in Billboard (currently footnote #12) definitely helps, but otherwise his music has not been noticed by reliable media and this WP article has a suspicious number of citations that go to dead sites. There are some fairly reliable sources for things that have been done by his record company and charity, but those would be more valid for articles about them. Otherwise this WP article is surely an attempted promotion for a guy who is good at networking and getting himself into pictures with famous people. Good luck to him in his many ventures but a WP article will have to wait until he is noticed by someone other than himself. (Note: When searching, beware of a visual artist of the same name.) --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 16:45, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not Linkedin. People should not use it for self promotion and we need to enforce these policies for them to have meaning. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Clear case of WP:PROMOTION WP:NOT WP:NOTRESUME Wm335td ( talk) 18:46, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Every few years someone tries to discredit because they have a mere Opinion and not facts. Allen Forrest has meet the min qualifications to included on WP. If you look at the history you will see that we have already proven our case. 1. You don't get featured in Vogue and on the red carpet at the GRAMMYs if your not notable in their eyes 2. Billboard will not feature anyone that's not legit and you can't pay your way on there. 3. Allen has had several national promotions on iHeart radio via their Artist Integration Program. [1] please scroll to number 99 photo. To hear the saved promotions that have been received for Allen Forrest [2] He was recently feature here for his new business venture [3] He had viral song with singer and actress Jennifer Akerman [4] original feature [5] red carpet features [6] more features [7] [8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForrestGroup ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Yahoo feature: [9] more features [10] over 1 million plays on FB for this song "Earthquake" which was feature on BET's show "The office" [11] The Video: [12] Latest show in Amsterdam [13] Dance Videos that other created [14] — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForrestGroup ( talk • contribs) 20:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- ^ https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/grammys-red-carpet-celebrity-fashion#99
- ^ https://soundcloud.com/ceo/sets/iheart-promotions-for-dougie-f-brave-ones
- ^ https://www.moodiedavittreport.com/royal-favourite-charbonnel-et-walker-launches-at-selected-us-airports/
- ^ /info/en/?search=Jennifer_Åkerman
- ^ https://www.dothaneagle.com/archives/former-resident-pursues-his-dream-in-hip-hop-music/article_e55aaaa7-d7e9-5000-b949-28eaa21e91ae.html
- ^ http://www.wireimage.com/search/#events?q=Allen%20Forrest&s=1
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=grammy+friends+and+family+allen&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS556US556&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=LAjaQfnLuWO34M%253A%252Cd3GNLOqHL6E-eM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRYiwCWUn3utq8ZAzAOMvbLdR1Bsw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjMusz8npLkAhVMIDQIHYbSBY4Q9QEwAHoECAkQBg#imgrc=LAjaQfnLuWO34M:
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=Allen+Forrest+roc+nation&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS556US556&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=XnJ3_b9GhDQT_M%253A%252CvZjTbqQowRUKyM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kT4vcImjnXhexMXSMN9EtChyaRSAg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwikhsWen5LkAhUhGTQIHXqsBHcQ9QEwAHoECAkQBg#imgrc=XnJ3_b9GhDQT_M:
- ^ https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/were-most-meme-worthy-moments-042259426.html
- ^ https://joitotheworld.com/grammy-awards-2018/
- ^ http://www.facebook.com/mrallenforrest
- ^ https://www.facebook.com/MrAllenForrest/videos/10150638430614986/
- ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18QQH1W5wlM
- ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d65zeLpC9Os&list=PLfMpXsyCPhpkM5gwqT4hNigZxG1Q_uYIn