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The result was keep. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 18:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Abdulrahman Akkad
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The sources are not reliable and are from local sites only! Aliaboomar ( talk) 17:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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- I strongly disagree with this deletion request, as references cannot be subjectively deemed unreliable, nor are any of them actually "local", because they're from both Arab and German sources. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 01:35, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or send to draft. I don't see a clear claim to notability. I also think there is an undeclared conflict of interest. Deb ( talk) 12:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Akkad is a very notable personality in the queer community of the Arab World, compared to personalities like Sarah Hegazi, who has a very distinguished page on Wikipedia, as evident by the sufficiently affixed sources. Furthermore, I don't see a clear reasoning for shady comments, AfD pages should not be used for personal attacks or to shade other members of the encyclopedia, Wikipedia is a respected area for general information, not a place to post personal biases, arguments or empty additions, as evident by the so conveniently-placed AfD article instructions at the top. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 16:50, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. FYI @ Shaheen Farjo: As for your example about Sarah Hegazy, these sources talked about Sarah and they are reliable sources for the English Wikipedia human rights watch CBC.ca CNN DW News washingtonpost middleeasteye And maybe more!
second, Another example I am a journalist, writer, and translator with All these reliable Turkish sources Which talked about me and my work and I have 3 books and yet I do not have a page in Wikipedia! TRT World Daily Sabah Yeni Şafak Yeni Akit Akşam Anadolu Agency İstiklal Orient News on Social Media I have 525 k on insta & facebook 54k & my public page 350 K also!
- Therefore, these sources from local and unknown sites and social media sites! --
Aliaboomar (
talk) 17:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- If you believe that major German and Arab news agencies are "local" and "unkown", then you should not really affix any news agency at all as a source next time you try writing a Wikipedia article, if you even do that. Also, please add a weighted comment next time and do not be subjective about your opinion, as this really does go against the general guideines. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Firstly, the Arabic Wikipedia literally removed and merged Hegazi's article with a second one, just because of her sexual orientation, and I hope this isn't the case here. Futhermore, you decide what sources are reliable or not? And so it's okay to keep people who have been referenced by DW, but not Akkad, who has also been prominently referenced by them. Cool, nice double standards. Regarding your last point, I'm not going to even mention it, because it's not appropriate to bring your jealousy or personal biases into this AfD discussion, as previously noted, so please refrain. If you want to write an article about yourself, go create a CoI (Conflice of Interest) notice on your page, and write whatever you want, but make sure to not be biased, or just wait until someone figures out you have 10k followers on social media. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Please further elaborate by mentioning which points this article does not meet in your opinion, because otherwise, I feel your "point" or whatever that comment means is quite invalid and insufficient, as evident by the AfD article instructions at the top. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Don’t compare yourself with others, you can create a page with your name for Wikipedia if you meet the conditions, Abdulrahman Akkad is a Syrian blogger and activist in the field of human rights and LGBT and has several interviews with DW (Deutsche welle) channel in Arabic and English and with the German newspaper Bild (the most famous newspaper in Germany) in addition to an interview with The Public Authority for Broadcasting in the Federal Republic of Germany (ARD) and with German Channel Two (ZDF) and two interviews with (BR) Bavarian radio and television broadcaster in German.
In addition to many newspapers and channels that dealt with his story like (Orient) The most famous channel in Syria on Arabic. + The number of followers on social media doesn’t matter here.
- Keep, as I believe this article meets all the general guidelines for Wikipedia, as evident by my previous counterarguments. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep while many of the specific details in the article are sourced to non-RIS, there is ample coverage in reliable independent German sources to demonstrate notability. Mccapra ( talk) 02:51, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 04:29, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 04:29, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment the nominator has been indefinitely blocked as a sock puppet. Mccapra ( talk) 05:32, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Mccapra. 4meter4 ( talk) 06:15, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 18:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Abdulrahman Akkad
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The sources are not reliable and are from local sites only! Aliaboomar ( talk) 17:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:13, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree with this deletion request, as references cannot be subjectively deemed unreliable, nor are any of them actually "local", because they're from both Arab and German sources. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 01:35, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or send to draft. I don't see a clear claim to notability. I also think there is an undeclared conflict of interest. Deb ( talk) 12:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Akkad is a very notable personality in the queer community of the Arab World, compared to personalities like Sarah Hegazi, who has a very distinguished page on Wikipedia, as evident by the sufficiently affixed sources. Furthermore, I don't see a clear reasoning for shady comments, AfD pages should not be used for personal attacks or to shade other members of the encyclopedia, Wikipedia is a respected area for general information, not a place to post personal biases, arguments or empty additions, as evident by the so conveniently-placed AfD article instructions at the top. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 16:50, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. FYI @ Shaheen Farjo: As for your example about Sarah Hegazy, these sources talked about Sarah and they are reliable sources for the English Wikipedia human rights watch CBC.ca CNN DW News washingtonpost middleeasteye And maybe more!
second, Another example I am a journalist, writer, and translator with All these reliable Turkish sources Which talked about me and my work and I have 3 books and yet I do not have a page in Wikipedia! TRT World Daily Sabah Yeni Şafak Yeni Akit Akşam Anadolu Agency İstiklal Orient News on Social Media I have 525 k on insta & facebook 54k & my public page 350 K also!
- Therefore, these sources from local and unknown sites and social media sites! --
Aliaboomar (
talk) 17:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- If you believe that major German and Arab news agencies are "local" and "unkown", then you should not really affix any news agency at all as a source next time you try writing a Wikipedia article, if you even do that. Also, please add a weighted comment next time and do not be subjective about your opinion, as this really does go against the general guideines. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Firstly, the Arabic Wikipedia literally removed and merged Hegazi's article with a second one, just because of her sexual orientation, and I hope this isn't the case here. Futhermore, you decide what sources are reliable or not? And so it's okay to keep people who have been referenced by DW, but not Akkad, who has also been prominently referenced by them. Cool, nice double standards. Regarding your last point, I'm not going to even mention it, because it's not appropriate to bring your jealousy or personal biases into this AfD discussion, as previously noted, so please refrain. If you want to write an article about yourself, go create a CoI (Conflice of Interest) notice on your page, and write whatever you want, but make sure to not be biased, or just wait until someone figures out you have 10k followers on social media. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Please further elaborate by mentioning which points this article does not meet in your opinion, because otherwise, I feel your "point" or whatever that comment means is quite invalid and insufficient, as evident by the AfD article instructions at the top. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Don’t compare yourself with others, you can create a page with your name for Wikipedia if you meet the conditions, Abdulrahman Akkad is a Syrian blogger and activist in the field of human rights and LGBT and has several interviews with DW (Deutsche welle) channel in Arabic and English and with the German newspaper Bild (the most famous newspaper in Germany) in addition to an interview with The Public Authority for Broadcasting in the Federal Republic of Germany (ARD) and with German Channel Two (ZDF) and two interviews with (BR) Bavarian radio and television broadcaster in German.
In addition to many newspapers and channels that dealt with his story like (Orient) The most famous channel in Syria on Arabic. + The number of followers on social media doesn’t matter here.
- Keep, as I believe this article meets all the general guidelines for Wikipedia, as evident by my previous counterarguments. - Shaheen Farjo ( talk) 20:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep while many of the specific details in the article are sourced to non-RIS, there is ample coverage in reliable independent German sources to demonstrate notability. Mccapra ( talk) 02:51, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 04:29, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 04:29, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment the nominator has been indefinitely blocked as a sock puppet. Mccapra ( talk) 05:32, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Mccapra. 4meter4 ( talk) 06:15, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.