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Hey Dave, hope you're well. I am going to be starting an RFC soon to follow up on the work at WP:UWTEST, and I was wondering if I could commandeer your time to close it after the comment period is up? I would love to get a few admins chosen beforehand so that no one is left wondering. What do you say? :) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
User:Bfrancom17 is clearly a sockpuppet of recently blocked vandal User:Bfrancom and is vandalising Android version history constantly today (just as his last account did this morning). Can you do something about this Dave? Thanks Jenova 20 13:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
You have Hurricanefan25 listed in User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Stats as productive. I just thought I'd let you know that he was blocked as a sockpuppet. Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:58, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay as you can see
here and
here there is a
WP:IDONTLIKEIT going on and now I believe the guy is using
WP:Sockpuppet with an IP address to get his way as an
IP address did the same thing he has been doing on
both pages and removing a reliable source over a strong possibility that Cartoon Network has not updated their site and the
source clearly states a premier date and time schedule for Cartoon Network. I'd also like to point out that Warner Bros. Animation are the creators of the show.
Zach suggested I report
SymBionicTitan for possible sockpuppet but before that Josh told me to talk to you first before I do anything rash. So that is what I am doing. I already tried to talk to the guy but he will not listen so I am wanting to know how to handle this situation especially if there is sockpuppetry afoot.
Swifty*
talk 20:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks Demiugre I figured as much after Zach pointed that out to me. So I'll just wait on someone or Dave/Worm to look in on this.
Swifty*
talk 21:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, question time Dave or the watchers of this page. Is purposely misrepresenting a reference vandalism? Example:
This isn't the same thing at all, especially since "behaviour" is far too vague for what it could mean (especially from the people who use the words "practicing homosexual") Thanks Jenova 20 12:38, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
"Misrepresentation of text to that extent can lead to a block" I think not. The context was clearly related to homosexuality. My addition "homosexual behavior"--arguably not comprehensive-is within the understanding of "sexual activity outside a heterosexual marriage." It is unnecessary to list all of the sinful behaviors when the context is homosexuality. I stand by the edit, for the most part, although adding language such as "for example" would've been clearer. I am surprised you pulled out the block card for an issue which is content-related and not disruptive. An issue that is best resolved not on user talk pages, not with a block, but at the article talk page. Blocks are to prevent disruptive behavior and are not punitive. A block based on these grounds would be easy to overturn at ANI.– Lionel ( talk) 22:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This has been going on since day one and shows no sign of stopping. In fact, he does it on purpose, again and again and again. How much longer do we have to put up with it? Viriditas ( talk) 01:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
He tries to win arguments by claiming to be offended. Any mention of antisemiticism and he becomes Jewish. Mention slavery or civil rights and he's black. (as currently seen on my talk page) He's a troll Jenova 20 08:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, it looks like there's a lot more to go through than I thought. I'm doing a bit of analysis on Lionel's edits over the past few months, and will come back with some thoughts as soon as I can. However, I'm not very active during the weekends, so it might be Monday. Feel free to drop any more incidents on my talk page. Should Lionel turn up, he's welcome to rebutt anything here, or wait until I'm finished looking through things. WormTT( talk) 15:06, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
After the material was removed, Lionelt started an RfC rather than reinstating the material. In addition, the edit in question occurred 5 days ago. No comment about the fact that there was a discussion going on at the time of his first inclusion. I am just pointing out that you are grossly misrepresenting his actions. Ryan Vesey Review me! 18:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)An ardent atheist, he began to characterize people as sheep whose free will was being sapped by the government and the monotony of modern life.
I think i have one here:
There's no section or wording corresponding to that in the article it points to. Thanks Jenova 20 10:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
I have eaten Bacon ice cream! Just today I did. Not your kind, it was actually ice cream with bacon offered by Burger King in their Bacon Sundae. Do you think it is worth mentioning in Bacon ice cream? Ryan Vesey Review me! 08:53, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
I can't believe you still haven't reached burnout yet. I hope your adoption course is doing well. — cyberpower ChatOffline 11:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC) |
A massive database change. So, for example, a large rename, as cyberpower suggested. WormTT( talk) 13:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Just as a note on the lag, I have Popups installed. Among the many other benefits, I can hover over the "hist" link of an article in my watchlist, and it still shows me the changes, despite the server lag. I still have to refresh my watchlist for it to change, and that takes a minute or so. If there was a community wide 1 minute moratorium on editing, would that fix the lag? Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Is it possible the lag is created or excasserbated by the extra 1 second added over the weekend? It did mess around with a few high profile sites after all. Thanks Jenova 20 15:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
I have been around for a several months and have acquired familiarity with some of the Wiki processes. However, I would like to expand the scope of my contributions and foray into more unfamiliar territory. Is adoption suitable for this and how would you advise that I proceed? Ankh. Morpork 13:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello there. There is an editor who needs a bit of attention. Well-meaning User:Oakley77 has been approving articles at AfC that are not quite up to snuff. I'd talk to him myself, but his talk page is blocked for me. He's been editing some China articles, and there may be something on his page that the great firewall of China doesn't like. Plus, I'm a bit wary of conflict after the thing that happened.
Anyway, he approved about 20 all together, many with issues such as needing cleanup, GNG, and copyvios.
Could you please drop him a line and gently ask him to be careful? He's not very communicative, and has been having trouble at WP:GAN. Sorry to dump this one in your lap. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 11:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Could you revdelete the prior revision of Talk:Qatar? I removed some personal identifying information. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, you pointed out a gadget to try a few days ago and i have...that being said i am enjoying it, but i'm confused as to why the image i see when i look at my signature is what it is... Can you explain that and how to change it without deleting the infobox on my userpage? Thanks Jenova 20 16:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
There's 2 pictures i see, the one corresponding to my user page is the one i'm asking about and not the one linked to my user talk page. Thanks Jenova 20 16:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I've been considering this for a while, but only now finally got round to asking: would you consider adopting me?
I've been hanging around here for about a year, mainly involved at the RefDesk, but I'd like to do more constructive editing as well. I've got a few pages on my watchlist that I dabble in from time to time, but I can't seem to make the next step and break out into really substantial improvements to articles. Something on my radar is to look at getting involved as a Teahouse Host, but I feel that needs to wait until I have a little more well-rounded experience under my belt.
I'd be delighted if you think you could work with me, although I note that you're quite busy now. If you want to say 'not now; but come back in a few months', that would be fine; I'm in no hurry. I would hope that I wouldn't require too much micro-management, but I know that you put a lot of effort into your adoptees, so I understand if you want me to wait a bit.
If it's 'not now; not ever', that's fine too, but I wonder if you could recommend someone else? I didn't pick you at random to ask this - I like your style and your attitude to people - but if you know of someone using your material who has a similar disposition then I'd be interested in hearing about them.
Thanks for your time. I look forward to hearing from you! I'll watch here for a reply - no need to go to my talk page, although you're welcome any time :-) -
Cucumber Mike (
talk) 18:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
You unblocked User:Swifty with some pretty specific conditions not long ago, and he's already gotten himself blocked again (this time for edit warring). I'm not sure the unblock was appropriate and in any case Swifty absolutely does not seem to be sticking to his promise to be good. Strongly suggest re-blocking. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
{{
retired}}
notice up on my userpage long ago because of a certain user who I am not going to disclose. They made hurtful comments. Other users such
User:DePiep, I believe, consistently insulted me after closing an ANI thread that didn't go in his favor. Like I pointed out. If they blatantly get themselves blocked and don't show that they are trying to learn, then I won't give them that second chance.—
cyberpower
ChatOnline 15:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)I agree with Worm. Swifty is a fine editor, he just had and still has issues with getting upset and leaving the project. He was also dealing with a very personal matter yesterday, which probably made him a bit more upset than he would usually be. Statυs ( talk) 00:32, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Worm, I discovered User:Sohamlive and User:Sohamjava that both appeared to be the same person. I contacted each account on it, and Sohamlive stated that he created both accounts but Sohamjava had been compromised. Unless you see any indication that Sohamlive may be imitating Sohamjava (which I would doubt, because his editing appears constructive) could you block Sohamjava as a compromised account? Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:05, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Worm, can you see what i did there? It's 25% unreadable. I changed to using the colours to compress the wording but the yellow is a problem...Can you help with this?
I also have User:SplashScreen playing dirty here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Born This Way Foundation and i don't mean you to vote at all (trying to avoid a canvassing argument) but he twists my every argument, sticks every policy violation he can think of in there and edits previously replied to comments to made a constructive discussion heated and impossible. Sorry to lump this all on you but if you can take a look i would appreciate it. Thanks Jenova 20 19:34, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Worm. You mentioned at User talk:Worm That Turned/Archive 16#A barnstar for you! 3 on 13 June 2012 that you would close Wikipedia:Requests for comment/COI if you had time. Would you take a look at the 3 July 2012 close of the RfC by Victor Yus ( talk · contribs). The account was created on 1 February 2012, the same month the RfC was initiated. While the close looks reasonable, I don't think a contributor to Wikipedia for only five months has the experience and standing in the community to close an RfC like that. Would you take a look Victor Yus' close and endorse it if you agree with it and amend it if you do not? Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 18:13, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I'm late to comment, but I'd not been aware of the community discussion about CU/OS appointments until recently. I noticed that you're a candidate for oversight access. I think you'd do a really great job. I've seen you around all over the place and have never had any reason to doubt that you're one of this site's better admins (also why I supported you for ArbCom back in 2011). Master&Expert ( Talk) 02:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I've been helping a newbie whose initial contributions were a little problematic and brought to my attention by Dougweller. We are making good progress but I've just dug myself into a hole: there is no way that I can succinctly explain how to use the article history tab, in particular not at the moment because I've got some real life stuff going on. Is there any chance of you butting in at User_talk:Rayabhari#New_Edits_:_Malwan and doing the necessary? I know that you do a lot of adoption work and are highly regarded for it, so you may even have something prepared for this eventuality.
BTW, I had some Doom Bar last week, as a guest beer in Manchester. Bloody fantastic, until I had to find my way home. - Sitush ( talk) 12:42, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
I didn't realize you were online, otherwise I would have gone right to you. Want to close the ANI discussion I started? Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:16, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Pretty much finished. I know I have a few days left, but I won't have internet access from tomorrow to next week, so I got it finished.-- Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 20:43, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
How about removing this: [12] -just because of a minor detail? I readded the section and added a citation needed tag but i think this shows just how biased our friend is on these matter that he has to remove any mention of "conversion therapy" (which they admit using) and negative attention (which again they caused themselves). Comments Worm/Viriditas? Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 12:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
He continues to censor information here about how the leader of Exodus International admits reparative/conversion therapy doesn't work (like he did before) even though the leader of Exodus International states it himself and it is reliably sourced. Lionelt challenges it first as a "BLP violation" [13] and then later deletes it in the edit after this disputing "relevance" and tags the section after it also. His continued editing on religious/homosexuality topics is too much of an issue and he's too biased to even edit fairly. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 22:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Now i have an accusation of copyright violation and plagiarism here from said user on my user talk page...Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Could you perform a revdelete at User talk:MichaelCrawford? This one is a bit more important as the person in question has schizoaffective disorder and is harassed on the internet. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:28, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Check out the February 24 DYK from 2004, Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/February. 199.199.176.9 ( talk) 20:58, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I just saw the post mentioning you're an Oversighter now. Congratulations, Dave. On a somewhat related note, I hope you'll consider another run for ArbCom in the future. I would very much like to see your input on that committee. Best regards. 64.40.57.81 ( talk) 07:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Hey, dear. I want your help. Please warn (or whatever) to User:Gary Multani. Check his edits on Babbu Maan, he spoiled the article badly by repeating same statements many times and more. I can't handle such new comers, so requesting you to give him a sense or tutorial. It irritates me on someone unfamiliar with wiki spoils articles created by myself because created then after reading much about wiki, it's rules, article layout, neutrality etc.. 'll be grateful to you. TariButtar (talk) 03:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi! You probably remember me, who rated you at your admin review. I've just come across here to ask that my old chap, Penyulap(aginst whom you opened a sock investigation) has been becoming disruptive in editing these days so is it wise to impose santions on him? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:22, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Should probably be changed to the The Adoptee Graduation Diploma unless you include this -->*<-- The world's tiniest barnstar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberpower678 ( talk • contribs)
Barts1a needs a lot more mentoring. If I can find some spare time I can write a detailed explanation via email. I hope you have enough time to spare to deal with him. Arcandam ( talk) 05:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello again, Dave. I was wondering if I could get your help. I'd like to thank a few people as part of the 4 millionth article celebration (see here), so I started this draft at AFC. Could you have a look at it and if you think it's alright, could you move it to WP: space? Could you also create the WP:4MIL redirect for it also? Thanks in advance for the help. Kind regards. 64.40.54.194 ( talk) 08:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Stapler/autocorrect award | |
Autocorrect fail of the day! Have a stapler! ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 13:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC) |
Stupid iPhone autocorrect. Anyone fancy making me a "this user page is watched by friendly talk page staplers" user box? Thanks for your help Ryan. WormTT( talk) 15:27, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
(referring to WP:ANEW#User:TheSpecialUser and User:IllaZilla reported by User:Editorofthewiki (Result: ))
Hi WTT! I wanted to know that is it possible to held 2 editors responsible for breaking 3RR where no single editor actually broke it? As I and someone else was just reported and weren't even warned prior to the report. Actually the reporter himself has violated to rule. I m starting an RFC to fix the dispute, but just wanted clarification. — TheSpecialUser ( TSU) 15:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
I am too lazy to do the research and write a long email at the moment, and it is probably not really necessary, time is on my side. But maybe I'll change my mind. Arcandam ( talk) 15:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi WTT! Since he has retired in the middle of my adoption program, can you move my adoption page as your sub page? I m probably on the last assignment and you both have same course. No problem if you are busy or don't want to do that. Cheers! — TheSpecialUser ( TSU) 00:30, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the offer to carry on with BM's adoptoin and I accept.-- LoganLopez ( talk) 19:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Just alerting you to my question there... Egg Centri c 22:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Same subject, different issue - it's a shame there's not been a Birmingham meet-up organized for a year as i would seriously consider going ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to bug ya again. I have a warning on my page and a short disagreement where Lionelt mentions names of 2 others, then tags their pages to the discussion on mine here and here with a not so subtle message, even though he bought their names up. This is misrepresentation and he's took the mickey the last 2 weeks. Can i request your involvement for advice? Thanks and have a nice evening ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 16:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Ok, it looks like the copyright violation was inserted by an IP
here. Lionel removed twice it as "no mention of Love Won Out in source" and "BLP violation" (I'm not sure how it's a BLP violation) Jenova restored it twice without much explanation. Only then did either of you appear to notice the copyright violation. In other words, you both appeared to edit war over the offending material, and if I'd been around I'd have likely shouted at you both.
The copyright violation was sorted as soon as it was pointed out, by another editor. I think suggesting that the violation was blatent (since you had not mentioned it in your first two reverts) and that he refused to fix it (he passed the information on to 3 editors in the hour between him logging on and it being fixed, and that was all he did in that time period) is disingenuous. You two are going to have to learn to get on better, be civil and stop assuming bad faith, or you are both likely to end up topic banned from those sorts of articles, along with an interaction ban. Obviously that's not something I could invoke myself, but I'm sure AN would be happy to.
WormTT(
talk) 08:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I must admit, that's a new one :) -- Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 16:25, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello Worm TT,
usrealtor 20:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggarver ( talk • contribs)
Hi, just got this edit summary "(BOT: Adding file to MTC Priority list (Bot Build 2))" on an image i uploaded and have no idea what that means. Do you? Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I added the information to Bacon ice cream and went to redirect Bacon sundae to it when I realized an article exists at Bacon sundae. It was previously redirected to Burger King, but overturned. I feel that it should be redirected to Bacon ice cream since Denny's also made one. Do you feel like it is fine on its own or should it be redirected? Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:23, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Now he has opened a sock against me. I feel that is a revenge investagions against my comments with you WDGraham, at WP talk of WP Spaceflight. Please Cooperate. Unpresidented welcome to almaat chat 07:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Worm,
Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if I could ask some advice in regards to incivility matters. I've witnessed a user (user A) post uncivil remarks towards another user (user B). At the moment it doesn't appear to look like user B is online, and therefore may not be aware of the comments being made at them. As I have witnessed it, would I be within my rights to report user A through the appropriate channels, or should I ignore it until user B has seen it for himself and allow him to make the report? Wesley Mouse 08:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
P.S. In case you wish to see for yourself, the remarks been made are 1, 2a, 2b, and 3. Wesley Mouse 08:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Regarding User_talk:Lionelt#Issues_raised, User:24.45.42.125 caught Lionel doing it again today. [16] This seems to be a daily occurrence regardless of your repeated warnings. Today, over at Political positions of Mitt Romney, Lionel said that Josh Rogin of Foreign Policy magazine "does not say that [Romney's] policy is 'confusing'". [17] However, once again, when we look at the actual source, we discover that Rogin did say, "Republican candidate Mitt Romney's policy on the future of U.S.-led war in Afghanistan war is unclear and confusing". Isn't it time that Lionel was blocked for this behavior? Viriditas ( talk) 07:42, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
The sentence with "confusing" was the very first in the article, so even a casual look would have shown him that he was wrong to remove it. Personally, I'd rather not assume malice where incompetence will suffice. When I pointed out the error, Lionel corrected it and didn't try to make any excuses (unlike with the per-plate fee issue). As a result, I'm willing to believe that Lionel made a stupid, but innocent, mistake.
That being said, I don't know him. It's up to you to decide whether there's a sufficient pattern of apparent mistakes to convince a reasonable person that he's doing it intentionally. 24.45.42.125 ( talk) 08:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
That was due to an edit conflict. I didn't want to lose my work when i went off gallavanting and had to save it. I just wanted to see how it looked. Any chance you can move the bubble under the lede as it includes the citation for it? Thanks for watching and helping out there btw ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 15:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
"Worm, you are wonderful! " :) loved seeing that at the Teahouse this morning!! You are!!
Sarah (
talk) 16:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I tried to raise a legitimate concern about another editor's rather frequent incorrect use of the mark edits as minor checkbox and I got this in response. Going through their contribs shows a continuing tendancy to constantly mark non-minor edits as minor. Maybe you could try raising this issue with them as I am having no effect... Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 05:01, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
Brilliant. ⇒ T A P 09:46, 23 July 2012 (UTC) |
I came across that and perhaps could you suggest me few sigs? I tried but didn't get an idea. Cheers :) — TheSpecialUser (TSU) 13:51, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hey Dave, hope you're well. I am going to be starting an RFC soon to follow up on the work at WP:UWTEST, and I was wondering if I could commandeer your time to close it after the comment period is up? I would love to get a few admins chosen beforehand so that no one is left wondering. What do you say? :) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
User:Bfrancom17 is clearly a sockpuppet of recently blocked vandal User:Bfrancom and is vandalising Android version history constantly today (just as his last account did this morning). Can you do something about this Dave? Thanks Jenova 20 13:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
You have Hurricanefan25 listed in User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Stats as productive. I just thought I'd let you know that he was blocked as a sockpuppet. Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:58, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay as you can see
here and
here there is a
WP:IDONTLIKEIT going on and now I believe the guy is using
WP:Sockpuppet with an IP address to get his way as an
IP address did the same thing he has been doing on
both pages and removing a reliable source over a strong possibility that Cartoon Network has not updated their site and the
source clearly states a premier date and time schedule for Cartoon Network. I'd also like to point out that Warner Bros. Animation are the creators of the show.
Zach suggested I report
SymBionicTitan for possible sockpuppet but before that Josh told me to talk to you first before I do anything rash. So that is what I am doing. I already tried to talk to the guy but he will not listen so I am wanting to know how to handle this situation especially if there is sockpuppetry afoot.
Swifty*
talk 20:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks Demiugre I figured as much after Zach pointed that out to me. So I'll just wait on someone or Dave/Worm to look in on this.
Swifty*
talk 21:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, question time Dave or the watchers of this page. Is purposely misrepresenting a reference vandalism? Example:
This isn't the same thing at all, especially since "behaviour" is far too vague for what it could mean (especially from the people who use the words "practicing homosexual") Thanks Jenova 20 12:38, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
"Misrepresentation of text to that extent can lead to a block" I think not. The context was clearly related to homosexuality. My addition "homosexual behavior"--arguably not comprehensive-is within the understanding of "sexual activity outside a heterosexual marriage." It is unnecessary to list all of the sinful behaviors when the context is homosexuality. I stand by the edit, for the most part, although adding language such as "for example" would've been clearer. I am surprised you pulled out the block card for an issue which is content-related and not disruptive. An issue that is best resolved not on user talk pages, not with a block, but at the article talk page. Blocks are to prevent disruptive behavior and are not punitive. A block based on these grounds would be easy to overturn at ANI.– Lionel ( talk) 22:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This has been going on since day one and shows no sign of stopping. In fact, he does it on purpose, again and again and again. How much longer do we have to put up with it? Viriditas ( talk) 01:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
He tries to win arguments by claiming to be offended. Any mention of antisemiticism and he becomes Jewish. Mention slavery or civil rights and he's black. (as currently seen on my talk page) He's a troll Jenova 20 08:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, it looks like there's a lot more to go through than I thought. I'm doing a bit of analysis on Lionel's edits over the past few months, and will come back with some thoughts as soon as I can. However, I'm not very active during the weekends, so it might be Monday. Feel free to drop any more incidents on my talk page. Should Lionel turn up, he's welcome to rebutt anything here, or wait until I'm finished looking through things. WormTT( talk) 15:06, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
After the material was removed, Lionelt started an RfC rather than reinstating the material. In addition, the edit in question occurred 5 days ago. No comment about the fact that there was a discussion going on at the time of his first inclusion. I am just pointing out that you are grossly misrepresenting his actions. Ryan Vesey Review me! 18:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)An ardent atheist, he began to characterize people as sheep whose free will was being sapped by the government and the monotony of modern life.
I think i have one here:
There's no section or wording corresponding to that in the article it points to. Thanks Jenova 20 10:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
I have eaten Bacon ice cream! Just today I did. Not your kind, it was actually ice cream with bacon offered by Burger King in their Bacon Sundae. Do you think it is worth mentioning in Bacon ice cream? Ryan Vesey Review me! 08:53, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
I can't believe you still haven't reached burnout yet. I hope your adoption course is doing well. — cyberpower ChatOffline 11:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC) |
A massive database change. So, for example, a large rename, as cyberpower suggested. WormTT( talk) 13:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Just as a note on the lag, I have Popups installed. Among the many other benefits, I can hover over the "hist" link of an article in my watchlist, and it still shows me the changes, despite the server lag. I still have to refresh my watchlist for it to change, and that takes a minute or so. If there was a community wide 1 minute moratorium on editing, would that fix the lag? Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Is it possible the lag is created or excasserbated by the extra 1 second added over the weekend? It did mess around with a few high profile sites after all. Thanks Jenova 20 15:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
I have been around for a several months and have acquired familiarity with some of the Wiki processes. However, I would like to expand the scope of my contributions and foray into more unfamiliar territory. Is adoption suitable for this and how would you advise that I proceed? Ankh. Morpork 13:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello there. There is an editor who needs a bit of attention. Well-meaning User:Oakley77 has been approving articles at AfC that are not quite up to snuff. I'd talk to him myself, but his talk page is blocked for me. He's been editing some China articles, and there may be something on his page that the great firewall of China doesn't like. Plus, I'm a bit wary of conflict after the thing that happened.
Anyway, he approved about 20 all together, many with issues such as needing cleanup, GNG, and copyvios.
Could you please drop him a line and gently ask him to be careful? He's not very communicative, and has been having trouble at WP:GAN. Sorry to dump this one in your lap. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 11:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Could you revdelete the prior revision of Talk:Qatar? I removed some personal identifying information. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, you pointed out a gadget to try a few days ago and i have...that being said i am enjoying it, but i'm confused as to why the image i see when i look at my signature is what it is... Can you explain that and how to change it without deleting the infobox on my userpage? Thanks Jenova 20 16:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
There's 2 pictures i see, the one corresponding to my user page is the one i'm asking about and not the one linked to my user talk page. Thanks Jenova 20 16:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I've been considering this for a while, but only now finally got round to asking: would you consider adopting me?
I've been hanging around here for about a year, mainly involved at the RefDesk, but I'd like to do more constructive editing as well. I've got a few pages on my watchlist that I dabble in from time to time, but I can't seem to make the next step and break out into really substantial improvements to articles. Something on my radar is to look at getting involved as a Teahouse Host, but I feel that needs to wait until I have a little more well-rounded experience under my belt.
I'd be delighted if you think you could work with me, although I note that you're quite busy now. If you want to say 'not now; but come back in a few months', that would be fine; I'm in no hurry. I would hope that I wouldn't require too much micro-management, but I know that you put a lot of effort into your adoptees, so I understand if you want me to wait a bit.
If it's 'not now; not ever', that's fine too, but I wonder if you could recommend someone else? I didn't pick you at random to ask this - I like your style and your attitude to people - but if you know of someone using your material who has a similar disposition then I'd be interested in hearing about them.
Thanks for your time. I look forward to hearing from you! I'll watch here for a reply - no need to go to my talk page, although you're welcome any time :-) -
Cucumber Mike (
talk) 18:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
You unblocked User:Swifty with some pretty specific conditions not long ago, and he's already gotten himself blocked again (this time for edit warring). I'm not sure the unblock was appropriate and in any case Swifty absolutely does not seem to be sticking to his promise to be good. Strongly suggest re-blocking. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
{{
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notice up on my userpage long ago because of a certain user who I am not going to disclose. They made hurtful comments. Other users such
User:DePiep, I believe, consistently insulted me after closing an ANI thread that didn't go in his favor. Like I pointed out. If they blatantly get themselves blocked and don't show that they are trying to learn, then I won't give them that second chance.—
cyberpower
ChatOnline 15:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)I agree with Worm. Swifty is a fine editor, he just had and still has issues with getting upset and leaving the project. He was also dealing with a very personal matter yesterday, which probably made him a bit more upset than he would usually be. Statυs ( talk) 00:32, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Worm, I discovered User:Sohamlive and User:Sohamjava that both appeared to be the same person. I contacted each account on it, and Sohamlive stated that he created both accounts but Sohamjava had been compromised. Unless you see any indication that Sohamlive may be imitating Sohamjava (which I would doubt, because his editing appears constructive) could you block Sohamjava as a compromised account? Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:05, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Worm, can you see what i did there? It's 25% unreadable. I changed to using the colours to compress the wording but the yellow is a problem...Can you help with this?
I also have User:SplashScreen playing dirty here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Born This Way Foundation and i don't mean you to vote at all (trying to avoid a canvassing argument) but he twists my every argument, sticks every policy violation he can think of in there and edits previously replied to comments to made a constructive discussion heated and impossible. Sorry to lump this all on you but if you can take a look i would appreciate it. Thanks Jenova 20 19:34, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Worm. You mentioned at User talk:Worm That Turned/Archive 16#A barnstar for you! 3 on 13 June 2012 that you would close Wikipedia:Requests for comment/COI if you had time. Would you take a look at the 3 July 2012 close of the RfC by Victor Yus ( talk · contribs). The account was created on 1 February 2012, the same month the RfC was initiated. While the close looks reasonable, I don't think a contributor to Wikipedia for only five months has the experience and standing in the community to close an RfC like that. Would you take a look Victor Yus' close and endorse it if you agree with it and amend it if you do not? Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 18:13, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I'm late to comment, but I'd not been aware of the community discussion about CU/OS appointments until recently. I noticed that you're a candidate for oversight access. I think you'd do a really great job. I've seen you around all over the place and have never had any reason to doubt that you're one of this site's better admins (also why I supported you for ArbCom back in 2011). Master&Expert ( Talk) 02:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I've been helping a newbie whose initial contributions were a little problematic and brought to my attention by Dougweller. We are making good progress but I've just dug myself into a hole: there is no way that I can succinctly explain how to use the article history tab, in particular not at the moment because I've got some real life stuff going on. Is there any chance of you butting in at User_talk:Rayabhari#New_Edits_:_Malwan and doing the necessary? I know that you do a lot of adoption work and are highly regarded for it, so you may even have something prepared for this eventuality.
BTW, I had some Doom Bar last week, as a guest beer in Manchester. Bloody fantastic, until I had to find my way home. - Sitush ( talk) 12:42, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
I didn't realize you were online, otherwise I would have gone right to you. Want to close the ANI discussion I started? Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:16, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Pretty much finished. I know I have a few days left, but I won't have internet access from tomorrow to next week, so I got it finished.-- Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 20:43, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
How about removing this: [12] -just because of a minor detail? I readded the section and added a citation needed tag but i think this shows just how biased our friend is on these matter that he has to remove any mention of "conversion therapy" (which they admit using) and negative attention (which again they caused themselves). Comments Worm/Viriditas? Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 12:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
He continues to censor information here about how the leader of Exodus International admits reparative/conversion therapy doesn't work (like he did before) even though the leader of Exodus International states it himself and it is reliably sourced. Lionelt challenges it first as a "BLP violation" [13] and then later deletes it in the edit after this disputing "relevance" and tags the section after it also. His continued editing on religious/homosexuality topics is too much of an issue and he's too biased to even edit fairly. Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 22:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Now i have an accusation of copyright violation and plagiarism here from said user on my user talk page...Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Could you perform a revdelete at User talk:MichaelCrawford? This one is a bit more important as the person in question has schizoaffective disorder and is harassed on the internet. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:28, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Check out the February 24 DYK from 2004, Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/February. 199.199.176.9 ( talk) 20:58, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I just saw the post mentioning you're an Oversighter now. Congratulations, Dave. On a somewhat related note, I hope you'll consider another run for ArbCom in the future. I would very much like to see your input on that committee. Best regards. 64.40.57.81 ( talk) 07:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Hey, dear. I want your help. Please warn (or whatever) to User:Gary Multani. Check his edits on Babbu Maan, he spoiled the article badly by repeating same statements many times and more. I can't handle such new comers, so requesting you to give him a sense or tutorial. It irritates me on someone unfamiliar with wiki spoils articles created by myself because created then after reading much about wiki, it's rules, article layout, neutrality etc.. 'll be grateful to you. TariButtar (talk) 03:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi! You probably remember me, who rated you at your admin review. I've just come across here to ask that my old chap, Penyulap(aginst whom you opened a sock investigation) has been becoming disruptive in editing these days so is it wise to impose santions on him? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:22, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Should probably be changed to the The Adoptee Graduation Diploma unless you include this -->*<-- The world's tiniest barnstar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberpower678 ( talk • contribs)
Barts1a needs a lot more mentoring. If I can find some spare time I can write a detailed explanation via email. I hope you have enough time to spare to deal with him. Arcandam ( talk) 05:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello again, Dave. I was wondering if I could get your help. I'd like to thank a few people as part of the 4 millionth article celebration (see here), so I started this draft at AFC. Could you have a look at it and if you think it's alright, could you move it to WP: space? Could you also create the WP:4MIL redirect for it also? Thanks in advance for the help. Kind regards. 64.40.54.194 ( talk) 08:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Stapler/autocorrect award | |
Autocorrect fail of the day! Have a stapler! ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 13:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC) |
Stupid iPhone autocorrect. Anyone fancy making me a "this user page is watched by friendly talk page staplers" user box? Thanks for your help Ryan. WormTT( talk) 15:27, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
(referring to WP:ANEW#User:TheSpecialUser and User:IllaZilla reported by User:Editorofthewiki (Result: ))
Hi WTT! I wanted to know that is it possible to held 2 editors responsible for breaking 3RR where no single editor actually broke it? As I and someone else was just reported and weren't even warned prior to the report. Actually the reporter himself has violated to rule. I m starting an RFC to fix the dispute, but just wanted clarification. — TheSpecialUser ( TSU) 15:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
I am too lazy to do the research and write a long email at the moment, and it is probably not really necessary, time is on my side. But maybe I'll change my mind. Arcandam ( talk) 15:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi WTT! Since he has retired in the middle of my adoption program, can you move my adoption page as your sub page? I m probably on the last assignment and you both have same course. No problem if you are busy or don't want to do that. Cheers! — TheSpecialUser ( TSU) 00:30, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the offer to carry on with BM's adoptoin and I accept.-- LoganLopez ( talk) 19:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Just alerting you to my question there... Egg Centri c 22:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Same subject, different issue - it's a shame there's not been a Birmingham meet-up organized for a year as i would seriously consider going ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to bug ya again. I have a warning on my page and a short disagreement where Lionelt mentions names of 2 others, then tags their pages to the discussion on mine here and here with a not so subtle message, even though he bought their names up. This is misrepresentation and he's took the mickey the last 2 weeks. Can i request your involvement for advice? Thanks and have a nice evening ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 16:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Ok, it looks like the copyright violation was inserted by an IP
here. Lionel removed twice it as "no mention of Love Won Out in source" and "BLP violation" (I'm not sure how it's a BLP violation) Jenova restored it twice without much explanation. Only then did either of you appear to notice the copyright violation. In other words, you both appeared to edit war over the offending material, and if I'd been around I'd have likely shouted at you both.
The copyright violation was sorted as soon as it was pointed out, by another editor. I think suggesting that the violation was blatent (since you had not mentioned it in your first two reverts) and that he refused to fix it (he passed the information on to 3 editors in the hour between him logging on and it being fixed, and that was all he did in that time period) is disingenuous. You two are going to have to learn to get on better, be civil and stop assuming bad faith, or you are both likely to end up topic banned from those sorts of articles, along with an interaction ban. Obviously that's not something I could invoke myself, but I'm sure AN would be happy to.
WormTT(
talk) 08:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I must admit, that's a new one :) -- Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 16:25, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello Worm TT,
usrealtor 20:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggarver ( talk • contribs)
Hi, just got this edit summary "(BOT: Adding file to MTC Priority list (Bot Build 2))" on an image i uploaded and have no idea what that means. Do you? Thanks ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 08:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I added the information to Bacon ice cream and went to redirect Bacon sundae to it when I realized an article exists at Bacon sundae. It was previously redirected to Burger King, but overturned. I feel that it should be redirected to Bacon ice cream since Denny's also made one. Do you feel like it is fine on its own or should it be redirected? Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:23, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Now he has opened a sock against me. I feel that is a revenge investagions against my comments with you WDGraham, at WP talk of WP Spaceflight. Please Cooperate. Unpresidented welcome to almaat chat 07:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Worm,
Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if I could ask some advice in regards to incivility matters. I've witnessed a user (user A) post uncivil remarks towards another user (user B). At the moment it doesn't appear to look like user B is online, and therefore may not be aware of the comments being made at them. As I have witnessed it, would I be within my rights to report user A through the appropriate channels, or should I ignore it until user B has seen it for himself and allow him to make the report? Wesley Mouse 08:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
P.S. In case you wish to see for yourself, the remarks been made are 1, 2a, 2b, and 3. Wesley Mouse 08:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Regarding User_talk:Lionelt#Issues_raised, User:24.45.42.125 caught Lionel doing it again today. [16] This seems to be a daily occurrence regardless of your repeated warnings. Today, over at Political positions of Mitt Romney, Lionel said that Josh Rogin of Foreign Policy magazine "does not say that [Romney's] policy is 'confusing'". [17] However, once again, when we look at the actual source, we discover that Rogin did say, "Republican candidate Mitt Romney's policy on the future of U.S.-led war in Afghanistan war is unclear and confusing". Isn't it time that Lionel was blocked for this behavior? Viriditas ( talk) 07:42, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
The sentence with "confusing" was the very first in the article, so even a casual look would have shown him that he was wrong to remove it. Personally, I'd rather not assume malice where incompetence will suffice. When I pointed out the error, Lionel corrected it and didn't try to make any excuses (unlike with the per-plate fee issue). As a result, I'm willing to believe that Lionel made a stupid, but innocent, mistake.
That being said, I don't know him. It's up to you to decide whether there's a sufficient pattern of apparent mistakes to convince a reasonable person that he's doing it intentionally. 24.45.42.125 ( talk) 08:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
That was due to an edit conflict. I didn't want to lose my work when i went off gallavanting and had to save it. I just wanted to see how it looked. Any chance you can move the bubble under the lede as it includes the citation for it? Thanks for watching and helping out there btw ツ Jenova 20 ( email) 15:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
"Worm, you are wonderful! " :) loved seeing that at the Teahouse this morning!! You are!!
Sarah (
talk) 16:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I tried to raise a legitimate concern about another editor's rather frequent incorrect use of the mark edits as minor checkbox and I got this in response. Going through their contribs shows a continuing tendancy to constantly mark non-minor edits as minor. Maybe you could try raising this issue with them as I am having no effect... Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 05:01, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
Brilliant. ⇒ T A P 09:46, 23 July 2012 (UTC) |
I came across that and perhaps could you suggest me few sigs? I tried but didn't get an idea. Cheers :) — TheSpecialUser (TSU) 13:51, 22 July 2012 (UTC)