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Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far. Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers. Your drive coordinators – Dianna ( talk), Stfg ( talk), and Dank ( talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up Participation: Out of 45 people who signed up this drive, 31 have copy-edited at least one article. Lfstevens continues to carry most of the weight, having edited 360 articles and over a quarter of a million words already. Thanks to all who have participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, will be available early in August here. Progress report: We are once again very close to achieving in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog. Only 35 such articles remain at press time. The total backlog currently sits at under 2400 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We are just two articles away from completing all requests made before July 2012 (both are in progress). Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, you'll be able to submit your best copy-editing work for palaver, praise, and prizes. See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 00:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events: The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best August copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC). September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit the articles tagged longest ago and to complete all requests placed before the end of August. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top six in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". This drive features a much easier signup process. We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 19:11, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Reminders from the Guild of Copy Editors A quick reminder of our current events: The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the discussion and voting stage until midnight September 14 (UTC). The September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the submissions stage until midnight September 30 (UTC), when discussion and voting begin. The September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is now underway! The event runs until midnight September 30 (UTC). The goal is to copy edit articles with the oldest tags and complete all requests placed before September. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who participates, with special awards given to the top five in the following categories: "Total articles", "Total words", "Total articles over 5,000 words", "Total articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Message delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 04:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 19 have copy-edited at least one article, about the same as the last drive. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—August, September, and October 2011—by about 44%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 58 articles so far, to around 2600 articles. The biggest difference between this drive and the previous one is a stronger focus on large articles, so total word counts are still comparable. Don't forget about the Copy Edit of the Month contests! Voting for the August contest has been extended through the end of the month. You don't have to make a submission to vote! August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the discussion and voting stage until midnight September 30 (UTC). September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the submissions stage until midnight September 30 (UTC), when discussion and voting begin. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 22:26, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

In the area? You are invited to Wikipedia Loves Libraries in Minneapolis.

Hennepin County Library's Special Collections is hosting a Minneapolis history editathon on November 3. Help increase the depth of information on Minneapolis history topics by using materials in the Minneapolis Collection. Find your own topics to edit or work from a list developed by Special Collections librarians.

There will also be an intro for people new to Wikipedia, and tours of Special Collections.

Where: Minneapolis Central Library, 300 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis
Special Collections (4th floor)
When: 10am-4:30pm, Saturday, November 3, 2012

For more info and to sign up (not required), see the meetup talk page. — innotata 13:12, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 13:18, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up Participation: Out of 41 people who signed up this drive, 28 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing July, August, September and October 2011 from the backlog. This means that, for the first time since the drives began, the backlog is less than a year. At least 677 tagged articles were copy edited, although 365 new ones were added during the month. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2341 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 54 requests outstanding before September 2012 as well as eight of those made in September. Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the August 2012 competition, and prizes will be issued soon. The September 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The October 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 23:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Fall Events from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events: The October 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best October copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC). Voting is in progress for the September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest. Everyone is welcome to vote, whether they have entered the contest or not. NEW!! In the week from Sunday 21 October to Saturday 27 October, we are holding a Project Blitz, in which we will copy edit articles tagged with {{ copyedit}} belonging to selected project(s). For the first blitz, we'll start with WikiProject Olympics and WikiProject Albums and add more Projects to the blitz as we clear them. The blitz works much like our bimonthly drives, but a bit simpler. Everyone is welcome to take part, and barnstars will be awarded. November 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on November 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in 2011 and to complete all requests placed before the end of October. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. >>> Blitz sign-up <<<          >>> Drive sign-up <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Message delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 19:35, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for Chinese to English translators and wondered if you could translate some of the stub articles for the King of Eastern Zhou at Template:Kings of Zhou? Thanks.-- The Emperor's New Spy ( talk) 16:57, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for mentioning that project. I think I can get the appropriate reference book into my office to guide my English writing, and then give it a go. I heard another interesting suggestion about articles on Minnesota history and biography to update at the recent Wikipedia Loves Libraries meet-up in Minneapolis. See you on the article talk pages. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 17:25, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors November 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 31 people signed up for this drive so far, 22 have copy-edited at least one article. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive. We have reduced our target group of articles—November and December 2011—by over 50%, and 34 of the the 56 requests made in September and October this year have already been fulfilled. However, the rate of tagging for copy edit has increased, and this month we are just keeping the size of the backlog stable. So, all you copy editors, please do come along and help us! The September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest was won by Baffle gab1978 for his copy edit of Expulsion of the Acadians. Runner up was Gareth Griffith-Jones for his edit of I Could Fall in Love. Congratulations to both. The October 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the discussion and voting stage until midnight November 30 (UTC). You don't have to make a submission to vote! November 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the submissions stage until midnight November 30 (UTC), when discussion and voting begin. Seasonal oversight: We had a slight fall from grace in the title of our last newletter, which mentioned the season in the northern hemisphere and thus got it wrong for the southern. Fortunately an observant GOCE member was ready to spring into action to advise us. Thanks! In future we'll stay meteorologically neutral. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 20:12, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors November 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up Participation: Thanks to all who participated! Out of 38 people who signed up this drive, 33 copy-edited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. All the barnstars have now been distributed. Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing November and December 2011 from the backlog. For the first time since the drives began, the backlog consists only of articles tagged in the current year. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2690 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 56 requests outstanding before November 2012 as well as eight of those made in November. Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the October 2012 competition, and prizes have been issued. The November 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The December 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote. Coodinator election: The six-month term for our fourth tranche of Guild coordinators will expire at the end of December. Nominations are open for the fifth tranche of coordinators, who will serve from 1 January to 30 June 2013. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 21:11, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

End of Year Events from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events: The December 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best December copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC). Voting is in progress for the November 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest. Everyone is welcome to vote, whether they have entered the contest or not. From Sunday 16 December to Saturday 22 December, we are holding a Project Blitz, in which we will copy edit articles tagged with {{ copyedit}} from January 2012. The blitz works much like our bimonthly drives, but a bit simpler. Everyone is welcome to take part, and barnstars will be awarded. January 2013 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on January 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in January, February, and March 2012 and complete all requests placed before the end of 2012. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in January, February, and March 2012", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. Coodinator election: Nominations are open for candidates to serve as GOCE coordinators from 1 January to 30 June 2013. Nominations close on December 15 at 23:59 UTC, after which voting will run until the end of December. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. >>> Blitz sign-up <<<          >>> Drive sign-up <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Message delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 00:33, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors 2012 Annual Report The GOCE has wrapped up another successful year of operations! Our 2012 Annual Report is now ready for review. – Your project coordinators: Torchiest, BDD, and Miniapolis Sign up for the January drive! To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 00:53, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/February 2013 wrap-up Participation: Out of 19 people who signed up for this blitz, 9 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: During the six-day blitz, we removed over twenty articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the March drive in a few days! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Torchiest, BDD and Miniapolis. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 21:38, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hello WeijiBaikeBianji,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Ceiling effect/workpage for deletion, because it doesn't seem to have any encyclopedic content.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Barney the barney barney ( talk) 17:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Barney the barney barney (
talk) 17:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC) 

Yes, feel free to delete, as I have a different workspace for that article revision now. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 18:42, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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In the area? You are invited to the upcoming Minnesota meetups.

To kick-off monthly meetups in the Twin Cities, two events will be held in Special Collections at Minneapolis Central Library this summer. These are mostly planned as opportunities for Wikipedians to discuss editing, but all are welcome!

Special Collections contains many valuable historical resources, including the Minneapolis Collection, consisting of files on hundreds of topics related to Minneapolis from neighborhoods to politicians (it's best to call or email in advance to request materials). Free wifi and several public computers are available.

Place: Minneapolis Central Library, 300 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis
Special Collections (4th floor)
Dates: Saturday, June 1
Saturday, July 6
Time: 12:30pm–2:30pm+

For more info and to sign up (not required), see the meetup talk page.

This invitation was sent to users who were interested in past events. If you don't want to receive future invitations, you can remove your name from the invite list. — innotata 14:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

You added your name as unable to attend to an event that happened earlier this year, rather than one of the future ones. There are two scheduled events (and the Wiknic which has not been finalised), so maybe one of those times works? — innotata 15:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

That must have been an example of replying when tired. I'll check the page again and refactor. Thanks. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 16:08, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, WeijiBaikeBianji. You have new messages at Lova Falk's talk page.
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Lova Falk talk 08:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, WeijiBaikeBianji. I've just got around to reading your message. I appreciate the overview and notice regarding article talk page discussion. Please do not interpret my tardy response as anything but a difference in priorities. I will be glad to weigh in as my abilities allow but I must tell you that article content is not my strong suit. Most of my time on this project has been spent on maintenance and clearing up graffiti. It's good to know that there are conscientious contributors such as yourself monitoring Wikipedia's articles. Thank you for your efforts. Regards Tide rolls 08:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors May 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter We have completed our May backlog elimination drive. The drive wrap-up newsletter is now ready for review. – Your project coordinators: Torchiest, BDD, and Miniapolis Sign up for the June blitz! To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 05:24, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter We have completed our June blitz and are about to commence our July backlog elimination drive. The June/July 2013 events newsletter is now ready for review. – Your project coordinators: Torchiest, BDD, and Miniapolis Sign up for the July drive! To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 20:52, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I saw your note that you were inspired to edit by How Wikipedia Works. I'm so glad the book was useful to you! Let me know if I can ever help out. best, -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 19:04, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 30 people who have signed up for this drive so far, 18 have participated. If you have signed up for the drive but have not yet participated, it isn't too late. If you haven't signed up for the drive, sign up now! Progress report: Thus far we have reduced the number of May/June 2012 articles to just 124 articles, so we're on the right track. Unfortunately, for the first time in GOCE history, the number of articles in the backlog has actually gone up during this drive. While all participants are currently doing a fine job, we just don't have as many of them as we have had in the past. We have over 500 editors on our mailing list, but only 18 editors who have done a copy edit for the drive. If you're receiving this newsletter, it's because you have an interest in copy editing. Join the drive! Even if you only copy edit one article, it helps. Imagine how much progress we could make if everyone chipped in just one article. – Your drive coordinators: Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, and The Utahraptor. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 22:38, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of IQ classification at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! -- FoxyOrange ( talk) 14:58, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I think this is a very important and valid entry/article. Since such a group would only really appeal to 1% of the population, I don't think it's really surprising that it's difficult to find popular sources that mention it. However, I noticed there are a number of published books, news articles, and scholarly journals mentioned in the "Sources and References." It seems that since all of this is verifiable material and there isn't actually that much publicly available on the internet, that is precisely why you should keep this entry. This organization still clearly exists and is unique in its own right, and many high profile people and intellectuals know about it. Just my feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.160.130.39 ( talk) 19:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter We have completed our July backlog elimination drive. The drive wrap-up newsletter is now ready for review. – Your project coordinators: Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, and The Utahraptor. Sign up for the August blitz! To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 23:43, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi WeijiBaikeBianji: When nominating an article for deletion, please look at WP:AFDHOWTO and follow all three steps. Alternatively, the WP:Twinkle gadget automates the whole process making it very quick and easy. Your nomination of Intertel (group) wasn't completed and so hasn't been acted upon; I've relisted it now. – Wine Guy ~Talk 17:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors August Blitz wrap-up Participation: Out of sixteen people who signed up for this blitz, nine copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we removed 26 articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the September drive in a few days! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95 and The Utahraptor. Sign up for the September drive! To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 02:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Psychology for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 01:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey WeijiBaikeBianji. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 22:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi WeijiBaikeBianji. I just saw your post over on Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Minnesota. I think that innotata had been organizing these, but I believe he was perhaps unable to do so for this month. If we don't end up having an event this month, hopefully we'll do something in September for Wikipedia Loves Libraries. Gobōnobō ^{+ c} 21:26, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I could do something simple and informal, probably at this end of town (western suburbs) for September if need be. We definitely want to celebrate Wikipedia Loves Libraries. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 21:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The information was not correct, it completely contradicts information from the ACS, the only source of such information. http://hmongstudies.org/2011ACS1YearEstimateHmongUSProfile.pdf This clearly shows 24.5% poverty rate, not a 2/3 poverty rate as was claimed. Again this is the ONLY valid source of such information. 98.255.208.10 ( talk) 05:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

That does indeed look like the best available source. Thanks for sharing the link. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 14:02, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

... just wanted to say hello, and keep up the good work. I'm glad you're back and editing after your break last year - I was worried we'd lost you. MastCell  ^Talk 18:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. I went mostly into wikignome mode for a while, just touching up articles I happened to look up, but I'm in a big research phase over the next few years for my work that meshes well with cleaning up Wikipedia articles that have long needed cleaning up. Likewise, I am glad you are still actively editing, as I have seen you produce a lot of improvements in the world's largest free online encyclopedia. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 19:06, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I noticed it's been more than 3 years since you added a banner to the Regression toward the mean article requesting expert assistance. Would you say this banner is still needed or is it safe to remove it? Regards. Gaba ^(talk) 19:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the article. I may have some better sources at hand myself than I had back then. Thanks for checking. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 00:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I had no idea. I had been very busy, but I had just started editing a couple of articles again and to finish the day, I read the village pump, the signpost. Oh interesting, “Psychology on Wikipedia”… and I was totally unsuspecting of what I was about to read.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I am still quite shocked and very happy. Thank you! Lova Falk talk 17:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Heey WeijiBaikeBianji,

On the 22nd of September you added "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (September 2013)" to the Wikipedia page of /info/en/?search=Raun_Kaufman. i was wondering if you could clarify the changes necessary to comply to the content policies, specific examples would be really appreciated.

Greetingss Floflorisris ( talk) 15:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Please fill out this short form to receive your Cochrane access in about 1 week. Best, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 17:38, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, WeijiBaikeBianji. You have new messages at Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did you know nominations/IQ classification's talk page.
Message added 16:33, 1 October 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 16:33, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

On 2 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article IQ classification, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that " genius" has not been a term used in IQ classification since 1937? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/IQ classification. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 16:06, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Good work. I support your improvements to the article. I'm generally skeptical of ethnic technology claims as an editor who has done extensive work cleaning up dubious or misused sources in Indian, Chinese, and Islamic history articles. Reviewing the source in question, The Cambridge Handbook of Intelligence is a reliable text written by leading researchers in the field, listed and starred on your userpage as one of your recommended citations for psychology. But to reiterate what you've said, the problem then is not reliability but verifiability. The handbook may be a reliable source for psychology, but unverifiable as a source for sinology. If there are no Western sinologists making the claim, then it's likely spurious and must be removed. Your research and background as a sinology major has been immensely helpful. Cheers,-- Rurik the Varangian ( talk) 23:25, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. The history of psychology is a tough subject to write about, as few historians have much of an interest in psychology, and few psychologists have much background in historical methodology. One very fun book I can recommend (it's available from used book markets now at an astonishly low price) is The Intelligence of a People by Daniel Calhoun, a historian who asks the question how one would know whether or not an entire country is becoming more intelligent. He provides a tentative answer to that question for the United States from the late 1700s to the middle 1900s with some fascinating historical materials. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 00:27, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, can you help me to translate the Chinese below:

...小米科技CEO雷军今日在腾讯微博诠释了公司名称由来的背后故事，他表示，小米要做移动互联网公司，并且要完成不能完成的任务。 “很多人问小米这个名字怎么来的？大家第一时间想到的是小米加步枪。其实，小米这个问题还有不少故事，首先小米拼音是mi, Mobile Internet，小米要做移动互联网公司；其次是mission impossible，小米要完成不能完成的任务。最后，“小米”这个名字亲切可爱，你周围有叫小米的人吗？” “‘佛家一粒米 大如须弥山’小米，我们希望去掉高大全，从小处着手。”雷军特意强调。

I need this translation to back up my opinion in article Xiaomi. Thank you -- B3430715 ( talk) 18:23, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've volunteered a 3rd opinion at Talk:Xiaomi where the last translation request came from. The dispute is largely resolved and we're working on finalising the text but there's one bit of Chinese that Google/Bing aren't giving me a clear enough translation of: 佛家一粒米 大如须弥山’小米，我们希望去掉高大全，从小处着手。”雷军特意强调。 It's coming back as "Buddhism a grain as big as Mount Meru ' millet, we want to get rid of tall, start small. "Lei June stressed." This is in reference to the meaning of the company name "Xiaomi". I assume it just means that millet is smaller than rice and this symbolises the company starting out small and toppling bigger competitors, but the Buddhism/Mount Meru ref makes me think it might be mistranslated and/or have a deeper meaning from a proverb or story that I'm unaware of.

If you have time to give me your translation and any relevant context you know of that'd be great. It's not being used to decide an argument, just to help decide the text we'll be using in the article to give the CEO's explanation of the name. You can see the discussion here if needed: Talk:Xiaomi#Third_opinion

Tobus2 ( talk) 02:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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Why this edit[ [1]]? I know you say in the edit summary "to update sources" but you removed Cattell Culture Fair III without explanation. Thanks. Tstrobaugh ( talk)

It's a very infrequently used test. (It also has reliability problems.) Can you find a reliable secondary source that says otherwise? I had to find out which tests are in most common current use for IQ classification, and eventually found professional handbooks (more than just those cited) that address the issue of which tests are in current widespread use. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 15:47, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

No, you made the edit, you justify your edit with sources. Isn't that your big thing? Everything has to be sourced from a list of sources that you choose? You're the expert right? Justify your edit and the comments you just made {It's a very infrequently used test. (It also has reliability problems.)}. Please cite sources for those two comments. Thanks. Tstrobaugh ( talk) 17:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

The cited sources list the current most widely used IQ tests in the English-speaking world. The table at the Urbina source is especially helpful in that regard. As I use Amazon.com "Search Inside This Book" just now, I can go right to Table 2.1 from that source, the Cambridge Handbook of Intelligence, and inspect the source directly for a list of major examples of current intelligence tests. And I see one of several critiques of the Cattell test in standard professional handbooks on IQ testing is visible through a Google Books search. "Culture-Free and Culture-Fair Assessments of Intelligence" Any such editing disagreement like this can be resolved in a friendly manner by referring to sources, and I would be happy to hear your suggestions for reliable sources about the topic of the article we are both watching. Thanks for your follow-up question. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 17:31, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I actually think you have some kind of agenda, so no, I don't consider you a friend. You're thinking is a bit skewed too, not an ad hominem, just an observation. Are you maintaining that because in one book there is a table of "current tests" that therefore the CFCIII should not be considered a current test? Is this the crux of your argument? If so then just one other source where it says it is a major test should tip the balance of the argument (using your parameters). So here it is [ [2]], please be so kind as to revert the edit now. Unless that is if you have some kind of agenda, if that is the case then please state your agenda so I can address it directly. Thanks. Tstrobaugh ( talk)

If you would like to edit the article to your preference, citing that source, I will not revert. It's all right to assume good faith here. That's not only a basic principle of civility, it is also a Wikipedia behavioral guideline. By the way, I was interested to see some previous online discussion about book publishing and journal publishing by the publisher of that book. I state my agenda in my How I edit page—I'm here to build a professional-quality encyclopedia based on the kind of sources that expert scholars use. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 19:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

No, I'll let your mistake fester, just to show that you are not trying to find the truth or "build a professional-quality encyclopedia", if you're so interested in sourcing edits you would have looked for a source for the edit that was already there or asked for more sources by citing a template ( Template:Citation_needed), but you choose to delete, maybe you are not aware of your deletionist bias. Tstrobaugh ( talk)

Well, pardon me for making the good-faith assumption (which I thought was warranted by the practice of most editors here) that someone adding an IQ test to Wikipedia articles on IQ testing must be a person who enjoys reading reliable sources on IQ testing. Meanwhile, I welcome comment from onlookers about how Nova Science Publishers compares to Cambridge University Press as a publisher of monographs on human intelligence research. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 20:15, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

So you're still on this "one good source" kick? Like Diogenes? So all it will take is one good source that says the CFCIII is a "current test"? This is my point. what is your agenda? If all you need is one good (good according to you apparently) source, and only you know what a "good source" is, then just find the one good source yourself. I mean, after all, you're only trying to "build a professional-quality encyclopedia", right? So just do it. Tstrobaugh ( talk)

Is there any academic discipline on the entire planet that doesn't make a distinction between better and worse sources and higher- and lower-impact venues of publication for new research? I am by no means suggesting that any important point in any Wikipedia article should be backed up by only one source, in principle. Rather, I am inviting you and all the other learned editors here to dig into multiple reliable sources on human intelligence, which I have been collecting into bibliographies since 1989, and which I share with everyone here freely, so that we can all enjoy seeing how the sources differ and on what points they are in full agreement. That's the delightful aspect of research—the pursuit of curiosity without fear or favor, to see where the research leads. Anyway, the gripe here isn't with me. The Wikipedia Reliable sources content guideline was written without my input, and put in place in largely its current form before I became a Wikipedian. I came here to get with the program and follow that policy to build an encyclopedia. I would never do anything but praise anyone's efforts to follow that guideline and to ensure that article content in Wikipedia is well sourced. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 21:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Where are the sources that make the distinction that your sources User:WeijiBaikeBianji/IntelligenceCitations are the "better" or "higher", as you say, sources? First and foremost almost all scholarly information is disseminated in the form of Journals. I see you have some journals here User:WeijiBaikeBianji/IntelligenceCitations/JournalArticlesBookChapters if you could separate (from book entries) them I could perhaps see how many journals you have listed. A Quick "Scholar" search will reveal thousands and thousands of Journals. Why does your "bibliography" have any weight or importance at all? Why a closed list? I really don't see what this list (that you incessantly post as the biggest thing since the wheel on your edits) has any significance at all. I would in fact say that to stay on safe academic ground (as stated in WP:RS), is that peer-reviewed journals and articles are preferred. So as a task for you to convince people of the significance of your list could you explicitly state which of your entries are peer-reviewed and by whom (most books and thus the majority of your citations are not peer-reviewed)? If this doesn't look like I'm trying to help then I don't know what would. Tstrobaugh ( talk)

Thanks for your follow-up questions. The information you seek is built into a Wikipedia guideline I've already linked to here, namely the reliable sources guideline. I have attempted to apply that guideline to the source lists I keep in userspace. Any user in general is welcome to suggest new sources for those source lists, and of course any user, even a Wikipedian without a registered user account like you and me, can surf by a Wikipedia article and insert content, sourced or not, for review by other Wikipedians. Generally, reading deeply in psychology is like reading deeply in any other specialized subject with professional secondary literature. Some statements are conventional, about matters you already knew about before you started specialized reading, perhaps things you already knew from your undergraduate education. Other statements are surprising, and prompt follow-up. Reading multiple sources—something I encourage in the most concrete way possible, by listing lots of sources—prompts questions as authors disagree with one another, and resolves questions as authors either "hand wave" or "show their work." I'm always way behind what I've circulated from libraries (and have even bought for adding to my home library) as I type up new bibliography entries. So there is more still to be added to those lists besides the dozens of references that anyone can see in the source lists. As before, if you have any suggestions for reliable sources on human intelligence testing, by all means feel free to post those on the talk pages of the source lists I keep, but especially on the talk pages of articles you enjoy editing. Sharing sources is part of our collaboration here as Wikipedians, and anyone can join in on gathering and reading and evaluating sources. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 23:40, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't think you are reading what I'm saying at all. I cited WP:RS and how the citations that are "better" are the peer-reviewed ones. I then challenged you to align your personal favorite citations with wikipedia guidelines, ie. which of your citations are peer-reviewed?, otherwise what is the point of even listing them?, and you reply that you are behind in your bibliographies. These are not even peer-reviewed so what is the point? Are you following what I am saying at all? You list yourself as a native English speaker. Hello? Tstrobaugh ( talk)

Let's take this to the article talk page of the article(s) you desire to edit. Having other editors look on at this discussion will surely be helpful. Hint: Cambridge University Press hires editors to review submissions to professional handbooks that include chapters by multiple authors. Those chapter authors are usually eminent academics who have gained tenure after publishing multiple peer-reviewed papers in high-impact journals. This is part of what distinguishes Cambridge University Press from Nova Science Publishers, which has no comparable peer-review process at all and does not gain submissions from such capable authors for the books it publishes. By the way, you could learn a lot about nonverbal intelligence tests in general, and about one in particular, by reading a prize-winning peer-reviewed article I happened to be reading for my professional work this evening. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 01:07, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

That's funny. I "could learn a lot". Your hubris knows no bounds. Since you apparently know what I know and don't know I suppose we can just "non-verbally communicate" from now on. Just wow, really. How about this "current" paper [ http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/10/16/1302751110.full.pdf Number sense in infancy predicts mathematical

abilities in childhood]? Tstrobaugh ( talk)

I have read that paper. I am familiar with the Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth because an immediate relative is a study participant and because one of the lead investigators is a friend and fellow alumnus of my alma mater. So in general I follow the research literature on mathematically advanced learners very closely—teaching such learners and advising their parents is my occupation. By the way, what part of "Let's take this to the article talk page of the article(s) you desire to edit" did you not understand from my previous post? -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 13:11, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

The part I didn't understand is the part where you are master of the universe and we are all just puppets to your machinations. Did you understand that your precious list of "bibliographies" is of no import? That in your quest for "better" and "higher" (according to you) sources of citations you completely left out the highest form according to WP:RS (that would be peer-reviewed). I challenged you to upgrade your sources and you have not. This doesn't need to be on any other page but yours. I post where I think the problem is. Get it? Tstrobaugh ( talk)

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I don't guess you can find “The Pharos of Alexandria,” Proceedings of the British Academy 30: 277–92 for me, could you? I've asked at Resource Requests to no avail. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 16:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I will see what I can do. Thanks for asking. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 03:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comments on my talk page. I don't think this is worth bothering about actually, and I know I've got more interesting things I may need help with! Dougweller ( talk) 22:05, 15 November 2013 (UTC)\

Any time. It's my pleasure. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 00:07, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for getting this to you late. I got busy and then the holidays came.

Due to the completion of the mapping of the Human Genome in 2003, you will find a lot of sources on this topic around the 2003-2005 time period. I tried to limit the list to only cream of the crop sources as I know you only want very high quality sources. Arguably you can't get any higher or better than "Nature" journals so I found you three from there. The sources discuss the findings from the Human Genome Project and its relationship to race. They discuss varying perspectives in the scientific fields from both scientists that accept the existence of biological races and from scientists that don't. They offer a lot of insight to the most common questions. These sources should greatly assist in improving the wikipedia articles on this topic and I hope they are what you were looking for. If you need anything else, I'd be glad to help.

Bamshad, M., Wooding, S., Salisbury, B. A., & Stephens, J. C. (2004). "Deconstructing the relationship between genetics and race." Nature Reviews Genetics, 5(8), 598-609.
Jorde, L. B., & Wooding, S. P. (2004). "Genetic variation, classification and 'race'." Nature genetics, 36, S28-S33.
Mountain, J. L., & Risch, N. (2004). "Assessing genetic contributions to phenotypic differences among 'racial' and 'ethnic' groups." Nature Genetics, 36, S48-S53.

BlackHades ( talk) 20:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I will double-check the sources I found last week and yesterday. At a quick glance, I think I encountered all those through keyword searching. I'm doing a write-up (for article talk pages) about some of the key sources that fit the WP:MEDRS guideline just now as I see your kind reply. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 21:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

See also: Barbujani, G.; Colonna, V. (2010). "Human genome diversity: Frequently asked questions". Trends in Genetics. 26 (7): 285–295. doi: 10.1016/j.tig.2010.04.002. PMID  20471132. — ArtifexMayhem ( talk) 22:19, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the source suggestion. You may see above that I referred to doing a write-up of several sources I have found. I'm still doing that. I hope to post that Real Soon Now. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 22:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I saw your comments at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Deprecated cauthors field does not have the same meaning as author2 and wanted to discuss. As I was going through I was skipping some that were problematic, but for the most part I was allowing the change for parameters with multiple coauthors because it displays the same way. I can skip these instances moving forward if you're reopening the discussion about the coauthor psarameter but I'd like to understand your argument re: the CS1 templates. Thanks! — TAnthony ^Talk 21:02, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

We should discuss over at CS1, right? Thanks for checking in here. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 01:11, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hello! Could you please correct the reflist of Marilyn vos Savant. It broke with your on 11 September. -- Pxos ( talk) 17:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I just fixed it; thanks. I'm looking forward to making the references more specific to exact pages, and I'll keep in mind how to make that transition. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 17:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I should give the links on the sources about disorders of geniuses, right? Commandos-rus ( talk) 13:34, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes. Sources are desired for Wikipedia articles. That is especially true about statements about living persons. See WP:RS for the general advice, WP:MEDRS for specific advice about statements about medicine (like mental illness statements), and WP:BLP for the general policy on articles about and statements in other articles about living persons. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 21:45, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Commandos-rus ( talk) 03:13, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:DEL-REASON. We don't cite essays as a rationale for deletion. Also, your claim that there is a "general tendency on Wikipedia to not have stand-alone Wikipedia articles on minor primary research studies that are themselves not reliable sources" is something that you completely made up. That it is "minor" is of course your opinion, but it has been given significant coverage in RS. As for in being a primary research study, that is neither here or there. We have a great many articles on research studies, essays, books, and other types of publications. This is no different. As for it being a reliable source, your statement is tantamount to nonsense. Let me break it down for you so that even you can understand it: a notable author publishes a notable paper in a notable journal that is covered by notable sources. Any questions? Viriditas ( talk) 23:02, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Viriditas, "In this world, hatred has never been defeated by hatred. Only love can overcome hatred." Thank you for your speedy reply. You have won me over to your point of view on the continued presence of the article on Wikipedia. I discovered the article while looking over other articles about topics related to human genetics.

I happen to have the privilege of participating (as an alumnus of my university) in a weekly graduate seminar on behavior genetics (alas, that link just shows a log-in screen to most users), which discussed the Crabtree article and scholarly responses to it on 11 November 2013. So I have at hand two peer-reviewed articles replying to Crabtree's primary publication, namely

* Mitchell, Kevin J. (2013). "Genetic entropy and the human intellect". Trends in Genetics. 29 (2): 59–60. doi: 10.1016/j.tig.2012.11.010. ISSN  0168-9525. PMID  23245856. {{ cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |laydate= ignored ( help); Unknown parameter |laysummary= ignored ( help)

and

* Kalinka, Alex T.; Kelava, Iva; Lewitus, Eric (2013). "Our robust intellect". Trends in Genetics. 29 (3): 125–127. doi: 10.1016/j.tig.2013.01.008. ISSN  0168-9525. PMID  23419455. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2013. Retrieved 19 December 2013. {{ cite journal}}: Check date values in: |archivedate= ( help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) ( help)

and I see that neither of those is mentioned in the article yet, which is a fixable problem. I am convinced by your rationale and the discussion at the AfD discussion (which I will join, with a !vote to keep) that the article will be just fine once it takes up more of the scholarly response to Crabtree's article, which I will help it do by providing the sources for all editors to look on, and then using the sources to update the Wikipedia article. Thanks for writing. See you on the wiki. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 01:30, 20 December 2013 (UTC)