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It had me in such fits of giggles that I felt compelled to add it to the stable ;P Hugz! Your words lightened my day. Pesky ( talk) 06:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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Sonicyouth, you are in dangerous territory with this edit. Those are palpable falsehoods, and completely worthless in discussion at a talkpage that has come under special ArbCom scrutiny and is subject to discretionary sanctions. It is undeniable that the article Men's rights (under whatever name) has been controversial for ages. It is undeniably subject to article probation, under controversial circumstances. It is undeniable that the title and contents have been hotly contested: at least in an RM discussion in 2011, in a deceptively advertised RFC in 2012, and currently in a new RM discussion. Worst of all, you have no foundation for your non-AGF accusation against me. I strongly advise you to withdraw it, now. You know very well that WP:MOS is my primary interest on Wikipedia, and that titling (WP:TITLE, WP:RM, etc.) is my secondary interest. This was all declared at the top of my talkpage long ago, and still is; and my record and reputation will corroborate these plain facts. I have only a slight interest in the gender articles on Wikipedia – certainly in comparison with your own involvement with them. Please desist from slanders. I knew nothing about the move proposed in that RFC you mention, because it was not advertised. That is the basis of my complaint, and you have no ground for baldly stating otherwise. I will consider my options if you do not retract your irresponsible assertion. And in future, please declare your own interest, as you so far have steadfastly refused to do at WT:TITLE.
It's your move, now.
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Hi Sonicyouth86. Thanks for taking the time to look at the discussion surrounding the Social groups intro. In the interests of looking for a resolution, do any of the current drafts seem passable to you? There is one here that I think addresses your concerns, as well as one over here. As I have mentioned in my discussion with Bhny, I see no reason to down play the fact that the definition is a matter of debate in the lead, but will accept anything that coherently reflects the multiple definitions that are part of the article body. Cheers Andrew ( talk) 06:17, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
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I got McDowell's 1985 Forensic Science Digest article. But there is also his 1985 interview in Chicago Lawyer with a different sample size. The "echo chamber" web articles frequently cite them incorrectly or interchangeably and the authors may not even have read them. 71.191.154.109 ( talk) 02:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, You seem to be quite familiar with several sources that cover the Men's Rights Movement (while I'm still studying the associated information for the first time). I'm working to bring the article up to a good level of writing, structure and sourcing, but due to the size of changes needed I've been outlining and tracking information from sources/etc. in a sandbox/workspace at User:Ismarc/MR/Basis. Would you mind if I occasionally drop a note asking you to review a section for wording/representation of the sources? I don't expect it to be very frequent, it would more be what I would consider a draft that inclusion in the main article would improve the article and be a good starting point for others to improve from. Thanks, Ismarc ( talk) 00:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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a reference for that backlash spot in MRM feel free to use, [1] AS you might remember, I can't add it because . . ..... I can't. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 16:20, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
I gave up on the evolutionary psychology articles many years ago. There was a time when I genuinely attempted to help Memills & Co. I wanted to see the topic area improved and tried to lend a hand. All I got in return was a stump. Memills really needs to be banned from Wikipedia at this point. He's not here to help. Viriditas ( talk) 23:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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I cannot send you the whole article because of copyright, but the only sentence that mentions men's rights says, " It was only in 1993 that the National Coalition of Free Men, a men's rights group that has championed William's cause, raised the $3,000 needed to buy the transcript." (The transcript was needed for an intended appeal.) The subject of the article was perhaps wrongly convicted and excessively censored upon conviction under "under a four-year-old state law allowing charges of rape between spouses living separately." There is nothing in the article that says the Coalition or anyone else opposed the law. TFD ( talk) 16:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
with "–" that makes it better than a -? It's very late but this is keeping me awake. Carptrash ( talk) 08:41, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
In this June 5 edit you mentioned some references you were interested in adding to the article and which could be superior alternatives to the use of Plotkin's diary to establish the historical existence of an early 1900 MR movement. I am very much interested in exploration of these two sources which discuss this which you linked, which are as far as I can tell:
You mention that the first:
You mention that the second discusses Mannerrechtsbewegung (this seems like a good word to remember for German research). You mention that both:
What I am a bit confused about in regard to distinction though:
I'm not sure how it became a topic... why are we looking for forerunners/parallels as opposed to backlash groups? Are these mutually exclusive? Does a group that forms in response to perceived lack of equal rights with women differ too much to be considered MRM? It's a bit confusing, having trouble telling differences here, I see them as basically the same thing.
One part that confuses me is how you gathered this information as I wasn't able to pick it out of the abstract. Are there quotable aspects of the abstract that establish this? Or is it something only people viewing these essays could see? Is it permissible for us to include short excerpts from them? Ranze ( talk) 08:16, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I've left a topic on the Men's Rights Movement talk page, would you care to comment? — Fuebar ( talk) 22:37, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Stop outing other editors when the diffs have been revdeleted, it is grounds for an immediate block. Tutelary ( talk) 17:21, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hello, at one of the WP:ANI pages you commented and used male pronouns to describe me or subsequently used a comment like, 'Pretending to be something they're not'. I would like to note that I am a woman and referring to me by male pronouns by mistake, and fixing it later is perfectly fine, however given the context of the situation, I don't approve of it happening when I've made it clear several times that I am a woman. ArbCom especially has already set a precedent on this in the Manning case, where editors should respect other editor's gender identities, gender, backgrounds, and the like. I would like to be respected so I am going to ask that you edit your comment to use female pronouns. Thank you. Tutelary ( talk) 15:20, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
When you report an editor at a noticeboard, you are supposed to notify them on their talk page. I notified DHeyward for you. Robert McClenon ( talk) 23:33, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
I can see that you've removed my {{ Masculism sidebar}} from one of the pages linked within it ( Men's movement). I thought I'd clarify that the intention of the sidebar is to act as an umbrella for all men's movements and related subjects, not as a subset of the men's movement. The term "masculism" was taken directly from its corresponding bottom bar which has been prominently included in these pages for years. The term, in the way I've used it, is also currently supported throughout Wikipedia (see: Masculism).
While I appreciate that there may be a difference in definitions flying around, could I invite you to improve the sidebar to make its relevancy less controversial rather than removing it from relevant pages? Currently, it's the only sidebar broadly related to any of these subjects, and I feel that the goal it strives to achieve is a fairly important one.
Thanks! Apples grow on pines ( talk) 17:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'm sorry if you think my edit was unconstructive. I edited the MR Child Custody section because I find it constructive to ensure high article quality. The issue was subject to discussionon the talk page at the end of 2013, and no new arguments were fothcoming, neither pro nor con, since my last post in that discussion. Having left it a year to hear new arguments seemed sufficient. I'v also discussed the matter on the relevant Notice Board, where it was opined (I'm paraphrasing this now, it was worded differently at the notice board) that if a claim is not stated directly in a source, the claim can be deleted; if there is some merit to the claim, it can be stated with qualifications. Could we discuss that? (I'll copy this to the MR talk page) T. 88.91.200.83 ( talk) 21:21, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Some opposers of this move have now contended that there is a "Critical fault in proposal evidence", which brings the opinions expressed into question. Please indicate if this assertion in any way affects your position with respect to the proposed move. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:37, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. EllieTea ( talk) 21:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Regarding this comment. Admins can't watch over every single edit in a contested area. The best we can do is look at what people have been doing and see if they are actively working towards consensus. The distant view of False accusation of rape is that people are collaborating incompetently. Long-term, that behavior is unacceptable. I don't have the time or patience to give everyone a rating on the quality of their edits so far. I see behavior on both sides that can be criticized. But admins do have the ability to shift the incentives so that lack of competence will lead the person to be excluded from the topic. Hopefully that will focus everyone's thinking. EdJohnston ( talk) 13:51, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
lack of competence will lead the person to be excluded from the topic. At what cost? Sure, sooner or later EllieTea will be excluded form the topic either because they will lose interest after failing to gain consensus for their disruptive edits or because some admin will bother to actually look at their editing, notice the disconnect between edits and policy and act accordingly. But how much time and effort will it cost other editors to deal with EllieTea in the meantime? I mean, sure, I could've looked away when I saw that they misrepresented a source. Instead, I chose to explain and then explain some more. And now you want to give me and other editors who enforced our content policies a warning for editing against consensus? Is there even one diff showing either Rosclese, Binks or me editing without consensus? -- SonicY (talk) 15:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi User_talk:Sonicyouth86 I have included some of your statements in my Incident report. I thought I would let you know. All the best, Itsmeront ( talk) 18:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Your edits of the Masculism page are hardly unbiased. A wikipedia page is not a dictionary page. It is a page used to provide background of a topic/subject. I am currently working with Warren Farrell to complete this page. appropriately. Masclism is about the men's rights movement which seeks equality of the sexes and acknowledges the prejudices against men, while advocating for social improvement. The oxford dictionary quote you've used is from a quite old version and will be removed shortly. The current definition approved and used by Oxford is the following:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/masculinist
Characterized by or denoting attitudes or values held to be typical of men Of or relating to the advocacy of the rights or needs of men. An advocate of the rights or needs of men.
You've entirely ignored the majority of source definitions and and selectively brought negative definitions to the page. Belnap.research ( talk) 16:52, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
@ Fyddlestix: @ Sonicyouth86: Hi, I apologize, I am quasi new to Wikipedia, I admit I'm unfamiliar with the process. It is a bit confusing figuring out what should be done in a case like this. I thought arbitration was a way to openly discuss a topic. My bad if this is not the case. Thanks for your patience with a noob. Also, these are not POV changes, these are changes that are cited from more modern versions of the same resource that you cite... I don't understand why you would use decades old definitions over the current revised edition available publicly online. You can start a free account at the Oxford Dictionary Online if you would like to be updated on new revisions. Also, the main issue on the page is that the article lacks a coherent topic. What this page should be about is masculism's philosophy, it's history etc. What it has become is a page filled with argumentative citations and minority (meaning a small group of individuals who hold the belief) opinions that promote discord between masculism and feminism. Generally speaking, both movements are humanist and do not disagree with one another. This is not reflective of the movement, and does not provide history and background to the term. How can we go about editing this page to reflect the history of the movement? Using the feminism page as a template for masculism can help. The first feminism definition provided is not a disputed and antiquated mention, but a modern and widely accepted definition. The same should be true of Masculism. How should I go about proposing a new framework for this article? Would it help to send all of you full edits with citations first, prior to adding them to the page? I want to be respectful, but I would also like to have the subject respected, and prevent biased deletion of content that accurately describes the movement. How can we do this? Belnap.research ( talk) 18:19, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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Found another dead link in SIFF page. Would request to look into the matter.Also the city mentioned seems not supported by any reliable sources. helpline for multiple city mentioned
dead link Ruproy1972 ( talk) 10:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear Sonicyouth86
As I am not so good to understand about the content, but feel the below link is from reliable source and the same to be added in Save Indian Family page. Would request you , please add the same in appropriate place as you understand better and edited SIF page recently .
Men's rights group to raise marital rape issue on I-Day
Spare a thought for innocent husbands
Forum for abused men – SIF- BHAI
Husbands victimized by wives plead for helprelated to AP and new state Telangana for SIF .
Hope it will value in Save Indian Family page. Would request to add the same in appropriate place.
Found two good article about SIF , Please add the same in appropriate page.
SIF meet 180 activist represent 50 NGO
SIF NGos Demand men commission Ruproy1972 ( talk) 05:34, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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It had me in such fits of giggles that I felt compelled to add it to the stable ;P Hugz! Your words lightened my day. Pesky ( talk) 06:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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Sonicyouth, you are in dangerous territory with this edit. Those are palpable falsehoods, and completely worthless in discussion at a talkpage that has come under special ArbCom scrutiny and is subject to discretionary sanctions. It is undeniable that the article Men's rights (under whatever name) has been controversial for ages. It is undeniably subject to article probation, under controversial circumstances. It is undeniable that the title and contents have been hotly contested: at least in an RM discussion in 2011, in a deceptively advertised RFC in 2012, and currently in a new RM discussion. Worst of all, you have no foundation for your non-AGF accusation against me. I strongly advise you to withdraw it, now. You know very well that WP:MOS is my primary interest on Wikipedia, and that titling (WP:TITLE, WP:RM, etc.) is my secondary interest. This was all declared at the top of my talkpage long ago, and still is; and my record and reputation will corroborate these plain facts. I have only a slight interest in the gender articles on Wikipedia – certainly in comparison with your own involvement with them. Please desist from slanders. I knew nothing about the move proposed in that RFC you mention, because it was not advertised. That is the basis of my complaint, and you have no ground for baldly stating otherwise. I will consider my options if you do not retract your irresponsible assertion. And in future, please declare your own interest, as you so far have steadfastly refused to do at WT:TITLE.
It's your move, now.
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Hi Sonicyouth86. Thanks for taking the time to look at the discussion surrounding the Social groups intro. In the interests of looking for a resolution, do any of the current drafts seem passable to you? There is one here that I think addresses your concerns, as well as one over here. As I have mentioned in my discussion with Bhny, I see no reason to down play the fact that the definition is a matter of debate in the lead, but will accept anything that coherently reflects the multiple definitions that are part of the article body. Cheers Andrew ( talk) 06:17, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
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I got McDowell's 1985 Forensic Science Digest article. But there is also his 1985 interview in Chicago Lawyer with a different sample size. The "echo chamber" web articles frequently cite them incorrectly or interchangeably and the authors may not even have read them. 71.191.154.109 ( talk) 02:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, You seem to be quite familiar with several sources that cover the Men's Rights Movement (while I'm still studying the associated information for the first time). I'm working to bring the article up to a good level of writing, structure and sourcing, but due to the size of changes needed I've been outlining and tracking information from sources/etc. in a sandbox/workspace at User:Ismarc/MR/Basis. Would you mind if I occasionally drop a note asking you to review a section for wording/representation of the sources? I don't expect it to be very frequent, it would more be what I would consider a draft that inclusion in the main article would improve the article and be a good starting point for others to improve from. Thanks, Ismarc ( talk) 00:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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a reference for that backlash spot in MRM feel free to use, [1] AS you might remember, I can't add it because . . ..... I can't. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 16:20, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
I gave up on the evolutionary psychology articles many years ago. There was a time when I genuinely attempted to help Memills & Co. I wanted to see the topic area improved and tried to lend a hand. All I got in return was a stump. Memills really needs to be banned from Wikipedia at this point. He's not here to help. Viriditas ( talk) 23:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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I cannot send you the whole article because of copyright, but the only sentence that mentions men's rights says, " It was only in 1993 that the National Coalition of Free Men, a men's rights group that has championed William's cause, raised the $3,000 needed to buy the transcript." (The transcript was needed for an intended appeal.) The subject of the article was perhaps wrongly convicted and excessively censored upon conviction under "under a four-year-old state law allowing charges of rape between spouses living separately." There is nothing in the article that says the Coalition or anyone else opposed the law. TFD ( talk) 16:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
with "–" that makes it better than a -? It's very late but this is keeping me awake. Carptrash ( talk) 08:41, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
In this June 5 edit you mentioned some references you were interested in adding to the article and which could be superior alternatives to the use of Plotkin's diary to establish the historical existence of an early 1900 MR movement. I am very much interested in exploration of these two sources which discuss this which you linked, which are as far as I can tell:
You mention that the first:
You mention that the second discusses Mannerrechtsbewegung (this seems like a good word to remember for German research). You mention that both:
What I am a bit confused about in regard to distinction though:
I'm not sure how it became a topic... why are we looking for forerunners/parallels as opposed to backlash groups? Are these mutually exclusive? Does a group that forms in response to perceived lack of equal rights with women differ too much to be considered MRM? It's a bit confusing, having trouble telling differences here, I see them as basically the same thing.
One part that confuses me is how you gathered this information as I wasn't able to pick it out of the abstract. Are there quotable aspects of the abstract that establish this? Or is it something only people viewing these essays could see? Is it permissible for us to include short excerpts from them? Ranze ( talk) 08:16, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I've left a topic on the Men's Rights Movement talk page, would you care to comment? — Fuebar ( talk) 22:37, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Stop outing other editors when the diffs have been revdeleted, it is grounds for an immediate block. Tutelary ( talk) 17:21, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hello, at one of the WP:ANI pages you commented and used male pronouns to describe me or subsequently used a comment like, 'Pretending to be something they're not'. I would like to note that I am a woman and referring to me by male pronouns by mistake, and fixing it later is perfectly fine, however given the context of the situation, I don't approve of it happening when I've made it clear several times that I am a woman. ArbCom especially has already set a precedent on this in the Manning case, where editors should respect other editor's gender identities, gender, backgrounds, and the like. I would like to be respected so I am going to ask that you edit your comment to use female pronouns. Thank you. Tutelary ( talk) 15:20, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
When you report an editor at a noticeboard, you are supposed to notify them on their talk page. I notified DHeyward for you. Robert McClenon ( talk) 23:33, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
I can see that you've removed my {{ Masculism sidebar}} from one of the pages linked within it ( Men's movement). I thought I'd clarify that the intention of the sidebar is to act as an umbrella for all men's movements and related subjects, not as a subset of the men's movement. The term "masculism" was taken directly from its corresponding bottom bar which has been prominently included in these pages for years. The term, in the way I've used it, is also currently supported throughout Wikipedia (see: Masculism).
While I appreciate that there may be a difference in definitions flying around, could I invite you to improve the sidebar to make its relevancy less controversial rather than removing it from relevant pages? Currently, it's the only sidebar broadly related to any of these subjects, and I feel that the goal it strives to achieve is a fairly important one.
Thanks! Apples grow on pines ( talk) 17:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'm sorry if you think my edit was unconstructive. I edited the MR Child Custody section because I find it constructive to ensure high article quality. The issue was subject to discussionon the talk page at the end of 2013, and no new arguments were fothcoming, neither pro nor con, since my last post in that discussion. Having left it a year to hear new arguments seemed sufficient. I'v also discussed the matter on the relevant Notice Board, where it was opined (I'm paraphrasing this now, it was worded differently at the notice board) that if a claim is not stated directly in a source, the claim can be deleted; if there is some merit to the claim, it can be stated with qualifications. Could we discuss that? (I'll copy this to the MR talk page) T. 88.91.200.83 ( talk) 21:21, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Some opposers of this move have now contended that there is a "Critical fault in proposal evidence", which brings the opinions expressed into question. Please indicate if this assertion in any way affects your position with respect to the proposed move. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:37, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. EllieTea ( talk) 21:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Regarding this comment. Admins can't watch over every single edit in a contested area. The best we can do is look at what people have been doing and see if they are actively working towards consensus. The distant view of False accusation of rape is that people are collaborating incompetently. Long-term, that behavior is unacceptable. I don't have the time or patience to give everyone a rating on the quality of their edits so far. I see behavior on both sides that can be criticized. But admins do have the ability to shift the incentives so that lack of competence will lead the person to be excluded from the topic. Hopefully that will focus everyone's thinking. EdJohnston ( talk) 13:51, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
lack of competence will lead the person to be excluded from the topic. At what cost? Sure, sooner or later EllieTea will be excluded form the topic either because they will lose interest after failing to gain consensus for their disruptive edits or because some admin will bother to actually look at their editing, notice the disconnect between edits and policy and act accordingly. But how much time and effort will it cost other editors to deal with EllieTea in the meantime? I mean, sure, I could've looked away when I saw that they misrepresented a source. Instead, I chose to explain and then explain some more. And now you want to give me and other editors who enforced our content policies a warning for editing against consensus? Is there even one diff showing either Rosclese, Binks or me editing without consensus? -- SonicY (talk) 15:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi User_talk:Sonicyouth86 I have included some of your statements in my Incident report. I thought I would let you know. All the best, Itsmeront ( talk) 18:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Your edits of the Masculism page are hardly unbiased. A wikipedia page is not a dictionary page. It is a page used to provide background of a topic/subject. I am currently working with Warren Farrell to complete this page. appropriately. Masclism is about the men's rights movement which seeks equality of the sexes and acknowledges the prejudices against men, while advocating for social improvement. The oxford dictionary quote you've used is from a quite old version and will be removed shortly. The current definition approved and used by Oxford is the following:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/masculinist
Characterized by or denoting attitudes or values held to be typical of men Of or relating to the advocacy of the rights or needs of men. An advocate of the rights or needs of men.
You've entirely ignored the majority of source definitions and and selectively brought negative definitions to the page. Belnap.research ( talk) 16:52, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
@ Fyddlestix: @ Sonicyouth86: Hi, I apologize, I am quasi new to Wikipedia, I admit I'm unfamiliar with the process. It is a bit confusing figuring out what should be done in a case like this. I thought arbitration was a way to openly discuss a topic. My bad if this is not the case. Thanks for your patience with a noob. Also, these are not POV changes, these are changes that are cited from more modern versions of the same resource that you cite... I don't understand why you would use decades old definitions over the current revised edition available publicly online. You can start a free account at the Oxford Dictionary Online if you would like to be updated on new revisions. Also, the main issue on the page is that the article lacks a coherent topic. What this page should be about is masculism's philosophy, it's history etc. What it has become is a page filled with argumentative citations and minority (meaning a small group of individuals who hold the belief) opinions that promote discord between masculism and feminism. Generally speaking, both movements are humanist and do not disagree with one another. This is not reflective of the movement, and does not provide history and background to the term. How can we go about editing this page to reflect the history of the movement? Using the feminism page as a template for masculism can help. The first feminism definition provided is not a disputed and antiquated mention, but a modern and widely accepted definition. The same should be true of Masculism. How should I go about proposing a new framework for this article? Would it help to send all of you full edits with citations first, prior to adding them to the page? I want to be respectful, but I would also like to have the subject respected, and prevent biased deletion of content that accurately describes the movement. How can we do this? Belnap.research ( talk) 18:19, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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You were recently named as an involved party in an arbitration case request. This is a notice to let you know that the case request has been declined by the arbitration committee (
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Read!
Talk! 17:23, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I've requested the article to be protected. The IP keeps revert-warring.-- Jetstreamer Talk 13:33, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Dropped you a line. WormTT( talk) 07:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Found another dead link in SIFF page. Would request to look into the matter.Also the city mentioned seems not supported by any reliable sources. helpline for multiple city mentioned
dead link Ruproy1972 ( talk) 10:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear Sonicyouth86
As I am not so good to understand about the content, but feel the below link is from reliable source and the same to be added in Save Indian Family page. Would request you , please add the same in appropriate place as you understand better and edited SIF page recently .
Men's rights group to raise marital rape issue on I-Day
Spare a thought for innocent husbands
Forum for abused men – SIF- BHAI
Husbands victimized by wives plead for helprelated to AP and new state Telangana for SIF .
Hope it will value in Save Indian Family page. Would request to add the same in appropriate place.
Found two good article about SIF , Please add the same in appropriate page.
SIF meet 180 activist represent 50 NGO
SIF NGos Demand men commission Ruproy1972 ( talk) 05:34, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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