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Thank you for your comment, at Talk:The Marriage Ref. Most appreciated, -- Cirt ( talk) 22:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

You may wish to keep an eye out, at Talk:The Marriage Ref. (A user replied to you over there.) -- Cirt ( talk) 04:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Agree that the article needs work to improve it to a suitable standard - its particularly lacking in citing references for most of the information on the band, amongst other issues. Am happy to work with you on these. Dan arndt ( talk) 03:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

That's alright - I've been busy editing the article as they are a Western Australian band - whilst I am not a huge progressive metal/heavy metal fan, I am a fan of Kenny's other project, Birds of Tokyo, and have both of their albums. Dan arndt ( talk) 04:35, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello! I would just like to let you know that I have created the List of The Smashing Pumpkins band members article. As you can probably see, I am not the best editor on Wikipedia, and the article does need a lot of work and sources that need to be cited. I would appreciate it if you would be willing to contribute to this list, because I know that you were eager to get the messy members section off the actual article. Thank you! WereWolf ( talk) 23:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

1. Click on this: Template:Lo-Pro
2. Copy and paste your nav box into the template
3. Add {{Lo-Pro}} into the articles where you want the template -- Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars ( talk) 19:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Well you know, I did create the page. And secondly, I feel that there isn't a universal meaning to the song, it means something different to everyone else. Brent Smith even said that himself. I feel that it is important to share that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Austin Lovelace ( talk • contribs) 20:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

1. Creating the page doesn't give you any sort of special authority over the page. 2. I totally agree with what you have to say. It means different things to different people, and it is important to share that. However, that doesn't wikipedia the right medium for expressing it. It's more appropriate for message board forums, songmeanings.net, etc. Sergecross73 msg me 17:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

So, about that being an official timeframe by Nintendo... if they said it would be released "sometime next year", do we put "sometime next year"? Or if they said "in the Holiday Season", do we literally put "in the Holiday Season"? No. We'd put "2011", or "Q4 2010", respectively. Also, all should be revealed in less than three hours :D-- The Ultimate Koopa ( talk) 02:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, I realize it no longer matters since official dates have been revealed, but for the record "within a fiscal year" is just as appropriate as "2011" or "Q4", and again, it was official, verified, and sourced by nintendo. I don't understand why you'd remove something like that, or why you'd challenge it now, after it being there for the last 6 months. Sergecross73 msg me 13:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I found the blog update from their site, referenced it, so the single "Wild at Heart" which is yet to be released can stay now. Sorry i forgot to write in the description that i added the reference and I thought i would notify you of this change. Sweet lad Thomas-gough ( talk) 22:29, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I represent SINAI's management firm. The reason I keep deleting the section on Tyler Gurwicz that you keep re-posting is because Tyler was never an official member of the band. The guys were writing songs with him, and they were talking about that publicly for less than 3 weeks. It didn't work out. No harm, no foul. But we do not feel that warrants an inclusion in the bands history. Far from it. Thank you for keeping an eye on the page and for your other contributions. Appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgesummer ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

First off, I don't "keep adding it", I've added it back once, and that's because you keep removing it without explanation in the edit summary, and haven't contributed to the discussion about this on the discussion page. Secondly, management firm or not, that doesn't give you authority on whether or not it should go on their wikipedia page. If people can find a reliable source, there's no reason not to have it on there, a different original lead singer is definitely notable. Sergecross73 msg me 14:00, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello, the reason the 3rd source was removed is because that link is down. The page must have been taken down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgesummer ( talk • contribs) 02:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I received your message. Noted, and thank you. The other two sources' links provided are also now down. I removed them and the paragraph about Tyler. While we do appreciate your diligence, and I mean that, we are the ones who released information about Tyler jamming and writing with the band, and we are also the ones who retracted that information. If you want to remain historically accurate the page is now complete for the time being. The band's LLC was signed and dated by Nick, Walt, and Shane, and no where on paper or any legal format does Tyler have anything to do with this group. He was never an official member, rather just a friend of Nick's who started writing songs with SINAI. Again thank you for your diligence and I look forward to keeping you posted on the groups future developments. Happy Holidays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgesummer ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey Sergecross73. I am the one of the 2 people who was putting on the US price and Video Chat on the Nintendo 3DS. I am sorry that I did that. I am done doing that. And I hope we can seek each other as allies instead of enimeis. Sorry again please reply. 71.181.240.86 ( talk) 02:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. In fact, I'm rather impressed you stopped, let alone apologized. In my experience, most people, especially ones without a screen name, tend to be rather stubborn when their information/edits are reverted/undone. Thank you for being so civil. No hard feelings. Sergecross73 msg me 23:38, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Friginator ( talk) 06:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

>_> Sergecross73 msg me 03:20, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. -- Addi hockey 10 ^e-mail 00:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I had no idea there was a situation there at all! Sergecross73 msg me 03:21, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

This is essentially pushing a POV. Please be even-handed. Either remove all unreferenced lines or remove none. -- Walter Görlitz ( talk) 20:26, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

That's not what I mean to do at all. (I personally like their stance.) I just don't like how it's placed in the article right now. It doesn't deserve it's own section, (it's only one sentence/idea), and then I noticed it wasn't sourced, so I questioned if it was true at all, especially if the problem with sourcing had been around for years. Don't take it personally, please WP:AGF. Sergecross73 msg me 20:32, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Possibly off topic, but how do you get those nice colours when you sign a response? Sepmix ( talk) 16:40, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. I personally found the process kind of confusing, and don't remember how I did it that well, so rather than tell you, I'll just point you in the direction of where I was reading when I did it before. Check out WP:SIGNATURE, down by the Customization/Color/Appearance sections. Hopefully that helps. Sergecross73 msg me 17:31, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Sepmix ( talk) 11:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I understand that there are certain rules on wikipedia, but I did not upload the image. After someone put this image on, it was removed, so I put it back on. Thank you for sharing this information, I'll read the rules before making future edits. abckookooman 21:44 (UTC)

I wasn't talking so much about uploading it as much as I noticed you had added/re-added it to the article. And again, not blaming, just clarifying. (Besides, sometimes it seems virtually no one understands wikipedia's image policy...) Sergecross73 msg me 22:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Didn't Jon Evans play bass on almost every song on Ursa Major? If so, he really should be on the timeline. Woknam66 ( talk) 14:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

While he did play on the album, that does not necessarily make him a member of the band. Lots of bands have studio musicians that help with an album, and while they certainly contribute, they're not called "band members". However, your chart is under the heading of "band members", thus creating the problem. Sergecross73 msg me 17:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I gave you plenty of time to discuss it, and you completely ignored me. Then you went and just changed the timeline back to how YOU like it because apparently you're the center of the universe. Woknam66 ( talk) 19:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Come on now, don't take it so personally. WP:AGF. I just didn't really look that closely at it until now, and while we can discuss it all day long, the way it was isn't going to work. 1) The chart made it look like Abe Millet played bass on Ursa Major, which all you have to do is look at the article or albun case to see that's not true. 2)It doesn't makes sense to put "session bassist" under a section titled "members". He was not a member. 3) The dates for Jon Evans were entirely arbitrary/made up. 4)Above all else, rather than complaining, do something about it. Read WP:BURDEN. If info is removed, it's the person who wants to restore it, to provide proof. Find some sources that contradict what I'm saying and I won't remove it.

Also, it's not like I tore up your chart. I took off one person, and adjusted a date or two. Your work is still essentially there. Sergecross73 msg me 01:37, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Serge - how is this systematic removal of Tyler Gurwicz from Sinai's history on their wiki page being allowed to continue? I have posted many reliable sources, and someone inevitably deletes them each time. This is ridiculous, and those doing so are not providing any content or value to the page other than tearing down factual information. I don't understand how these people are not banned or blocked from the page editing. I am the only one who has shown/proven again and again the connection of Tyler to the band, and those references continue to be pulled for no good reason. Is not the purpose of wikipedia to record facts, history, and truth? -- Garrettmarvel ( talk) 16:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I too find it upsetting that the band's management has systematically taken down past reliable sources about Tyler Gurwicz. However, as it is, they are management, I don't want to get into any legal trouble with them or anything.

Here's the way I see it: it's very hard for a rock band to make it these days. I imagine they'll release a record, it probably won't sell very well, they'll get dropped fromt their management, and then they won't care about the page anymore, and then the truth can be re-added, provided there are still sources left.

If you do continue to persue this, continue to stress that management editing the article is definitely a WP:COI problem. Sergecross73 msg me 17:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

i did report the COI the other day, though i don't know if or how or when something might be done. i agree the whole thing is stupid, but whatever - i like the bandmembers, and i wish them all the success in the world, they've written some great stuff in the past in previous bands... but this certainly is not my full time job, but someone or admins or somehow this should not be allowed to happen... i know i'm not the person to do it, but i thought that was the point of wikipedia. i got a notice that there was a request to protect the page from ME, which is laughable, regardless of if my comments attached to my edits were mildly heated the other day. -- Garrettmarvel ( talk) 22:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I do what I can, from participating in lengthy talk page discussions to misreading articles I'm referencing. I should thank you, too. TheStickMan ^[✆Talk] 00:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

By the way, semi-protect expires tomorrow. Any worries? TheStickMan ^[✆Talk] 00:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I was getting frustrated about the changes to the page when I heard about page protection and stumbled upon this. It's pretty simple. You just need to type in an article name in the right template and give a good reason for the request. I don't know what we should say, though. Maybe the talk page activity can be used to justify an extended protection? Although from the looks of things, actual vandalism/disruptive editing (and significant amounts of it) needs to happen for protection... TheStickMan ^[✆Talk] 01:58, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

And it happens. I suppose we can thank the 4chan trolls. I took a peek at the Video Games section and noticed that they were organizing groups to vandalize certain pages ( Mass Effect 2 and Satoru Iwata were also hit.) TheStickMan ^[✆Talk] 22:36, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, I guess you are right about removing that section, but I think we should add a track section because on the official trailer at some Nintendo fair in Japan, it does show three tracks. One is around Peach's castel, another is a jungel-like track, and the third is on wuhu island (from wii sports resort.)

That doesn't sound like a WP:RS. Furthermore, that doesn't really sound that notable, as there aren't even known track names yet... Sergecross73 msg me 15:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Super Mario Wiki, 3DS page. I really think you should check it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.117.148 ( talk) 14:47, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not opposed to this, but can you fill me in on what page exactly (like with a link) and why it is I should check it out? Sergecross73 msg me 14:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

You should check it out beccause it has way more info than the normal wikipedia "mario kart 3DS" page, some which someone should add, and you can find the page by typing "super mario wiki mario kart 3DS" on google search. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.117.148 ( talk) 00:58, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I have come across that, although I'm not really familiar with it's standards compared to "normal wikipedia". I'm guess either the standards for sources/information is higher in normal wikipedia, or that information shouldn't be on the super mario wiki either. Regardless, look at the other Mario Kart articles on normal wikipedia. Note how none of them feature "character lists" or "item lists"... Sergecross73 msg me 14:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

OK, I wasn't aware of such a discussion; I'll go and have a look at some point (don't have time atm). I think the main issue here is simply the term "generation", since it brings with it quite a bit of baggage (e.g. the Wii being distinctly different hardware generation from the PS3 and 360, being largely based on the GC). I get your point about the high traffic and tbh it's not all that important (especially given that without the distinction made here on Wikipedia, it is largely meaningless anyway). Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.ðɒn/ ^{( talk)} 18:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

If you dispute the genres I leave and they have no sources then you're perfectly free to remove them. But any info without sources may be removed. If you want genres kept in, just find some good sources for them. Otherwise you're restoring unsourced info, which is against the rules. 87.194.171.224 ( talk) 11:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Again, the problem is two-fold. 1)You don't add an explanation. Unless it's a minor edit, which these are not, you're supposed to always have one. 2)You keep on picking and choosing what to keep purely on your opinion. It's quite apparrent that you have some sort of bias agains the term "alternative metal". When you do this, you're compounding the problem. You're taking one "wrong", (unsourced info), and turning it into "2 wrongs", because unsourced info is still in there, but now your bias is there as well. You're making things worse with this approach. If you wanted to do this the right way, you'd be adding the sources for genre as you go. Sergecross73 msg me 14:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

1.) Yes, I do give reason: no source. 2.) That doesn't make any sense: How am I making it worse by removing some of the unsourced info? "Adding my own bias" is nonsense, it's those adding the unsourced info that are adding bias. Which I am removing. There's nothing stopping you from removing the remaining info if it doesn't have sources, but there's no rule saying "If you remove some unsourced info you must remove all of it". WP:BURDEN makes it clear that the burden of evidence lies with those adding info, which in this case is yourself. 87.194.171.224 ( talk) 19:08, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

1) No, many of your edits, usually the first time you remove genres from an article, have no description at all in the edit comment. This isn't even debatable, all someone has to do is look at your contribution list to see this. You may have your reasons, but you're not always stating them. 2) Again, if you had good intentions, you'd be finding these sources yourself, and you wouldn't be challenging such silly things. It look like literally 5 seconds to find a source that said Shinedown is "alternative metal". Why even dispute that? It feels like you're just trying to cause trouble. Sergecross73 msg me 16:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I want to commend you for the effort you put into rewriting this article. It was very appreciated. — MathMaven ( talk ∫  edits) 01:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing, and appreciating, all the work I've done to the Sonic series article. It just seemed like a shame that such a well-known video game serie's article was such a mess, and then I realized that, with playing the games all my life, that I was knowledgable enough to fix it myself. Also, I do have intentions on re-writing the Game Gear, DS/PSP, and Wii/PS3/360 sections too, I just hadn't gotten that far yet. Sergecross73 msg me 04:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Rather than state "wait for a title" you can cite WP:CRYSTAL and/or WP:HAMMER. Just thought I would mention it! HrZ ( talk) 13:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

After reading your User Page, I can see that you do a lot of work on Video Games. I have removed the delete tag I placed on SpongeBob_SquigglePants knowing that you need some time to expand that page. Cheers Whiteguru ( talk) 05:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I do appreciate your consideration. However, I'm not sure how closely you looked at things. I did not create the article, I merely found it and re-wrote the one sentence that was there when it was created, because the initial sentence contained virtually all false information. I've been watching over the articles that user Fig2002 has been creating, because they've mostly been hoax/fake video games, and I've been going around tagging them for Speedy Deletion. However, since this game was an actual game, I merely deleted out all the fake info (For instance, he keeps on writing that a fictional "tng games" is developing various games. A fake company.) and included a ref. In all honesty, I would have tried to delete this article too, but I wasn't sure if that would work since this game was actually real. Sergecross73 msg me 14:01, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

"I agree with Stick Man. There is no need to distinguish between buttons. A button is a button. Please stop reverting this."

3D depth slider is a slider and so does volume slider. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rukario-sama ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Can you really not tell the difference between "A button and B button" and "A button and 3D slider". Do I really need to explain why they are different? Sergecross73 msg me 03:38, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, I mean to say that if you agreed with The Stick Man about why it's not necessary to name each buttons, then there'll be no need to name each sliders. Okay I'm sorry if I did not do right things since I'm new to wikipedia communication system ^^ Rukario-sama ( talk) 04:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

It's okay, I misunderstood what you meant too. But yeah, the sliders, while both being sliders, have pretty different effects, where as all the push buttons do essentially the same thing. It's one of those things where, if too much details goes into these charts, it's gets cluttered and/or overwhelming. Sergecross73 msg me 14:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Explain? Yeah, sure:

WP:RS & WP:V.

There you go. If it's so easy to evidence that a band is given a genre then it shouldn't take you very long to provide good sourcing, should it? But please do bear in mind WP:UNDUE and WP:BURDEN. 87.194.171.224 ( talk) 08:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I understand what you're doing. I know wikipedia policy. I'm asky why you're targeting alternative metal? If WP:RS was your only concern, you'd be removing all the genres, not just alternative metal every time. Sergecross73 msg me 13:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Please look at an edit before you revert it: my edit moved genres into a musical styles section within the article body and added various sources. If you dispute further, take it to a talk page. Further reverts there will be reported as I don't want it to turn into an edit war. 87.194.171.224 ( talk) 17:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I am reverting your edits because I did read what you changed, not because I didn't. It seems arbitrary to keep some in the infobox, but not others, and the musical style section seems rather unneccessary considering it says nothing other than just stating their genre in bare bones sentences which are just as well represented in the infobox.

Furthermore, you have nothing to report me on, as I am leaving edit comments, discussing things, and I have only reverted the page twice. I'm not breaking any policies here. Sergecross73 msg me 17:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not arbitrarily removing info: I'm moving some to it's own section, which can be expanded upon later. The infobox doesn't need every single genre they've ever been termed, otherwise it becomes unweildy. You'll see most featured musical artist articles work in the same way.

And yes, you are breaking policy actually, because you are removing some of the sources in your revert. I'm not going to revert again, but if you can't provide some good reasoning for your removal of sources I'll have to take it higher. 86.163.0.212 ( talk) 18:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Please, don't act like you're doing me a favor, I know you're not reverting any further because you'd be breaking WP:3RR. I know "not every genre needs to be in the infobox", my hang up is that you haven't given a rhyme or reason as far as why you left particular ones there.

In regards to removing sources, the content is still there and sourced, my reverts just make it so there aren't 3-4 sources for some genres, which isn't really necessary anyways. Sergecross73 msg me 18:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Black Sunshine (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hang on}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. RadioFan ( talk) 14:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with the article at the moment, however, what needs to change is the attitude I get whenever I suggest something to change in the article. I'm fine if you don't want to listen to me, but you can at least do it without trying to get into an argument. And just remember, I'm not being an enemy- I'm just trying to help out. 173.86.41.63 ( talk) 13:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)Ethan

Please give me an example of a time where I acted out of line, and how I should have acted. I don't know exactly what you're referring to. Sergecross73 msg me 13:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

What part was out of line? What "stuff"? I need a concrete example. Also, I find it hard to believe that you are "just trying to help out" when your responses entail things like "Shut up already" and vandalizing my talk page... Sergecross73 msg me 14:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

So for the record, you can't even tell me what you're upset about, other than "stuff", and now you've vandalized my user page three times. And I'm a disgrace to wikipedia? Please stop this. (You do realize that I have a notification every time my userpage is changed, and thus its reverted instantly. So you're not accomplishing anything. Sergecross73 msg me 14:31, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

First of all, it's "Forum", not "form". Secondly, we were talking about what you were doing in various 3ds articles, like that template, which is acceptable, because it had to do with the article. WP:NOTAFORUM applies to other things. Like personal opinions about the 3DS itself. Like when you said you didn't care about European pricing. Whether or not you care is irrelevant to how it should be portrayed in the article. There is a big difference. I think your main problem is that you don't understand the rules and policies, and then get mad when people call you out on it... Sergecross73 msg me 14:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Quit harassing me Before correcting everyone correct your own act. 173.86.41.63 ( talk) 15:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

You still haven't even identified what you'd like me to correct. (Other than "stuff".) Sergecross73 msg me 15:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking about creating a page about Nintendo eShop. And since you are a well trusted user I am asking you if you think that would just be deleted because there isn't enough information? TheBradford msg Bradford 20:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

You know, I edit a lot, but I've only created a handful of articles. I'm really more of an "editor" type. So I may not be the best judge Anyways, I could go either way on it. It's not out yet, but it will be soon, and I think there are a couple of things confirmed about it. You could always make a section on the 3DS discussion page, and see what others think. Sergecross73 msg me 00:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay I'll put something about that on the 3DS talk page. TheBradford msg Bradford 17:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I should have been more clearer.In this edit, you wished to return a bit of info claimed to have "nothing to do with the subject" by an IP. However, you really just reverted an IP adding a comment commonly used of GameFAQs, which is still a good thing. I noticed it, and decided to put it in myself. Sorry again for the confusion. TheStickMan ^[✆Talk] 21:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I get it now. Just making sure I wasn't accidently making the article worse or anything. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 13:09, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

		The Modest Barnstar
		Thanks for your recent contributions! - Mike Restivo ( talk) 20:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Who are Pixlbit.com? I am not certain it is a notable video game publication; a Google search suggests limited notability and it doesn't look right stacked up against the other more well-known and notable outlets mentioned in the reception section. Searching on Wikipedia only shows a few other mentions; I wouldn't be surprised if the people there have worked their site into the reception section to try and gain some hits. 62.56.123.168 ( talk) 22:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out that odd little comment. I'm not sure why the author of Armenian moving didn't comment on my talk page, but I've removed it now. -- Anthem of joy ( talk) 16:32, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering that too. Judging by his talk page and contributions, I think he's having a really hard time grasping how things work here on wikipedia. (No offense to him.) And I was going to remove his comment myself, but since there was no older version, I could only blank the page, and I didn't want anyone to misinterpret that as vandalizing your page. Sergecross73 msg me 16:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I suspect he is simply unfamiliar with the English language. The articles he wrote (deleted at afd) were no testament to his proficiency. -- Anthem of joy ( talk) 16:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok the title says it all, I knew you guys were getting pissed at me because of the music style in the Nickelback (Wikipedia) I deleted. Please don't edited no more and if you have something to say about it I'll edited to fix it. Also, Nickelback didn't got their mainstream success on 2003, they got in 2001. Anyways, leave it how it is and thanks for your occupation. )—Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickelbackrules1518 ( talk • contribs 21:20, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok I'll tell you why me version is better on the Nickelback page. One, because it has the right information Nickelback did got their mainstream in 2001. Two, because the Riaa and the Recognition are for more information I left out on the History in the table of contents. Number 3, is more specific. Nickelbackrules1518 ( talk • contribs

So, let's recap. You directly told me that you would discuss future changes to the article. (Your exact quote from your talk page is "I'll first go and tell people what I'm gonna do and if they accept it, then we can leave it there.") Then, as soon as you are unblocked, you go and make a lot of the same edits that everyone has been telling you not to, and do so without a single comment on the article talk page or in any of your numerous edit summaries. And then you're confused why all your work was undone again?? Did you forget all of these conversation, by us and you, the second you were unblocked? Sergecross73 msg me 12:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

LOOK! I don't want the Sonic Generations article to be wrong. OK?-- Sonic100jam ( talk) 23:47, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

That's great you care, and what you're doing is certainly better than the opposite: vandalism. However, when reliable sources report on something, you need not worry anymore. There are developer interviews and screenshots. And multiple reliable sources reporting on it. And "gameplay footage" is not a wikipedia criteria for verifying something. We're working on wikipedia's standards, not yours. Sergecross73 msg me 23:50, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Well I guess that's OK for now until the game is released.-- Sonic100jam ( talk) 00:12, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Sergecross73. You recently reverted my edit on the Reggie Fils-Aime page, and you said Youtube is not a reliable source. I actually agree on that, however this time I felt it was different because Reggie himself said it. Wouldn't you agree? TheBradford msg Bradford 13:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

The problem is, youtube videos can be uploaded by anyone, without monitoring (unless it's like copyright stuff.) Since anyone can upload anything, who's the say the video uploader was honest? What if Reggie really said "five", but the sound was altered to sound like he said 3? Or what if it was taken out of context? What if he said "3 kids", but the video editor removed the question, which was "How many kids did your fictional character have when playing Sims 3?" In short, it's because anyone can vandalize it because anyone can change/upload info, without anyone really monitoring it. I imagine that'd be something that'd be pretty easy to verify with searching with google though? Sergecross73 msg me 13:46, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see now. I'll look for a different source. TheBradford msg Bradford 13:51, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, down in the personal life section of the page, it says he has 3 children with a more reliable source. I'll use that. TheBradford msg Bradford 13:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Your putting false information on the Nickelback wikipedia, how many times I have to tell YOU. Oh and for the record, do you even like Nickelback? Because if you don't that is just SAD! I mean you are arguing with a Nickelback fan because you don't like how I edit it. Seriously you need help.

Rather than trying to bicker with me about if I'm a fan, why don't you discuss something of substance, like all the issues brought up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nickelback#On_going_problems and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nickelback#Section_titles. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 02:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to the eShop page, I didn't realize they made a page yet. TheBradford msg Bradford 04:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I guess that I should have known to read every page on Wikipedia to know whether or not anything is being debated. -.- Would it have killed you to just give some hint of "why" in the message saying not to do it? ( 24.188.79.100 ( talk) 21:57, 5 June 2011 (UTC))

1. No one's blaming you for not knowing, it's just the way in which you act like it's not even debatable. You'd get nicer responses if you didn't act so cocky and say things like "it's literally that simple" when you express your opinions.
2. There was already a discussion on it at the Project Cafe discussion page. Like, almost directly above where you started a discussion.

• Here's the section you started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Project_Caf%C3%A9#It_has_been_officially_confirmed_as_8th_gen
• Here's the discussion almost directly above what you started. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Project_Caf%C3%A9#Generation Sergecross73 msg me 22:20, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Does it look like I give a sh*T,i red that thing 20 freaking times,and the thing I wrote is not a form! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.51.113 ( talk) 19:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, you should read it a 21st time then. The link I gave you clearly says that discussion pages are for the article, not random discussion on the topic itself. (aka, something you'd do on a forum or messageboard). It's pretty obvious when you write things like this and say things about how cool hypothetical game features would be, and how people should say so on the Sega facebook page, that you're not writing it to better the article. >_> Sergecross73 msg me 20:25, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm trying give Sega an idea for a game,no one is going to stand in my way.¬_¬

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.51.113 ( talk) 20:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Why in the world do you think wikipedia discussion pages are the way to do this? You think discussing it in an area where people don't come to discuss such things is the way to accomplish this? Blogs, gamefaqs, petition websites, you'd have much better luck in any of those areas... Sergecross73 msg me 21:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

More people here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.51.113 ( talk) 21:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but people are here to read about, or write, articles. Not read up on people's efforts to sway companies on their facebook pages. It's very simple. If you use wikipedia wrongfully like this, there's 2 main things that'll happen. 1) If a lot of people are reading it, it's going to be deleted, because they know it's against policy. 2) If no one's deleting it, it probably means not many people are reading it in the first place. Either way, you're not accomplishing as much as you think... Sergecross73 msg me 23:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I know this isn't my conversation, but, SEGA does not own Wikipedia. They aren't just going to go to Wikipedia pages about their products to look for suggestions. Besides, big companies like SEGA do not take unsolicited ideas. TheBradford msg Bradford 16:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I understand your concern. The game was released at E3 2011 just a couple of days ago - since then there have been an explosion of sources by various magazines and game developers such as the UK.IGN one, A Video Game blog one, and yet another. I understand that the game can be easily mixed with Super Mario 3D, however they are separate. The game lies in the Super Mario Bros. series and there has been loads of new sources just released a couple of days ago. Regards Jaguar ( talk) 18:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The links you just provided me actually show that they are in fact the same game. I asked around and other confirmed my suspicion as well. See this Sergecross73 msg me 19:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Please see the VG project page and this link. They can't be the same game. Jaguar ( talk) 20:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

According to the VGChartz website all the first 5 orignal crash bandicoot games have sold well over what has been stated on the crash series wiki for example, it states crash warped has sold 3.87 million units however it has sold well over 7.2 million units worldwide can someone update them please, the psn sales have also sold approximetly 1.2 million. if any clarification is needed go on to the VGChartz website and in the info box type in the crash bandicoot games and will give you the correct sales amount — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.240.217 ( talk) 15:34, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

VGChartz is unreliable, just so you know. TheStickMan ^[✆Talk] 16:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm...still not sure what this is all about. I edited the Crash Bandicoot series article a week or two ago...is that why you're asking me? I'm no expert or anything, I think I just went through and took out some unsourced claims that didn't sound right. And Stick Man is absolutely right about VGchartz. I enjoy reading their numbers personally, but as far as wikipedia goes, they're not a source you're supposed to use... Sergecross73 msg me 20:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

But it needs more than that. In the case of an event it requires a diverse range of sources, probably not just electronic gaming non-feature articles, and in the case of an organization it's recommended to "consider whether they have had any significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education." - 98.226.189.40 ( talk) 13:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

See, but you say things like "probably" and "recommended to consider". The link you referred to, WP:SPIP, doesn't say anything about that. It says "The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the topic itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, author, inventor, or vendor) have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own that focus upon it – without incentive, promotion, or other influence by people connected to the topic matter.. It meets that when places like IGN and Game Informer cover it. Sergecross73 msg me 13:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip/help regarding dates on the Beyond the Labyrinth artcile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by En-bit ( talk • contribs) 14:39, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for not taking it the wrong way. A lot of people get offended or stubborn when tips like that are mentioned. Additionally, I thank you for your help with the 3DS list, there are an awful lot of anonymous people who, knowingly or not, put false info on it, and it's hard to stay on top of maintaining it. Sergecross73 msg me 18:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Sergecross73. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beyond the Labyrinth.
Message added 22:26, 6 July 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Mo ainm ~Talk 22:26, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've got it on my watchlist, so I'll know if people keep responding... Sergecross73 msg me 00:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I wanted to thank you for all your help on Grace For Drowning page. and also wanted to ask that if you like to help me expand this page and add more infos.
Thank U. Reza ^(Talk2Me) 20:57, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I'm a big Steven Wilson fan, so I'll try my best to add information and keep vandalism off of it. Sergecross73 msg me 12:42, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for re-removing the speedy deletion template so I don't have to risk WP:3RR in an edit war. Next time, I will note when due to length, my rationale is on the talk page. While I admit that the article could still face deletion, deciding admins are incredibly impartial. Even when I've disagreed with the verdict, they are either nonantagonistic and I can accept the outcome, or have found a solution outside of the polar choices. I wish more of life can be like that. MMetro ( talk) 21:47, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment above. It makes me sorry that I don't agree with you on Wuhu Island having its own article, but at the same time, you seem to be working pretty hard on it, so perhaps you'll find info that'll prove me wrong. Most of the time I'm more of a person who gets rid of vandalism or unsourced claims, so I don't know how much I'll help with fleshing the article out if it is kept, but at the same time I'm not the type usually to put things up to AFD, so it's not like you have to worry about me doing that. Sergecross73 msg me 23:21, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi! In regards of this subjects I think that the information given to us by both the media and console manufactures is more than in enough to reach a consensus. In other words, the Wii U, Nintendo 3DS and the PlayStation Vita are eighth generation video game consoles. There's just no doubt about that. Once again, the media, console manufactures and even "common people" consider these consoles eighth generation ones. I think there is no need for further talk about this subject. Let's just accept reality. Otherwise, wikipedians are just being silly and naive. Talk to you soon, Arkhandar ( talk) 13:09, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but one person can't just "decide that there's consensus", whether you find it silly or not. Feel free to join in on the discussion, but you can't just come to your own conclusions like that. Sergecross73 msg me 18:48, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

First of all, I didn't came with my own conclusions, that's just a wrong interpretation of what I said. I just wanted to open the editors eyes. Second, what's the point in continue this debate? The way things are going, we're never going to reach a consensus. Just open your eyes. This generation is already accepted by everyone except some of Wikipedia's editors. -- Arkhandar ( talk) 20:07, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

But you just did it again! You say you didn't come to your conclusions, and then say things like "This generation is already accepted by everyone except some of Wikipedia's editors". You keep acting like there's some sort of consensus on this... Sergecross73 msg me 23:45, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

This was already addressed but if the PSP is 7th gen then that makes the Next Generation Portable (aka as the PSV) 8th gen, don't you agree?-- Arkhandar ( talk) 22:51, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't, and you've been time and time again that it's not that simple. Look, I know that discussion is ridiculously long, and probably not the best read ever, but you really need to read it if you're going to participate in these discussions. Your continued inability to even recognize the other point of view makes me think you haven't read it all, or skimmed over too much... Sergecross73 msg me 22:53, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

When did I call someone a stupid idiot, recently?-- The Ultimate Koopa ( talk) 18:43, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Straight from your contribution list, here Sergecross73 msg me 18:47, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Please look for my messages on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaming&Computing ( talk • contribs) 20:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

"Chasin' You Around" and "Day 'n' Nite" were released as a digital singles (see iTunes) and "Little Saint Nick" was released as a single from MTV: TRL Christmas (see eBay, MusicStack, etc. for proof of its separate existence). You did point out an error in my chronology though - it appears "Nick" was definitely released after "When It's Over" and I'm assuming "Answer the Phone" (can't find an exact date of release - but it was probably before the Oct. 2001 release of TRL Christmas). So it belongs between "Answer the Phone" and "Ours", which was released in 2002 I believe. As I recall, the only song I couldn't definitively verify was released as a single was "Shot of Laughter". This sticks in my head because I don't normally do this - that is, if I can't find hard evidence I usually leave it out (but how could you know this?) I should take better notes. I think in this case there was enough circumstantial evidence to keep it in. Probably should have made it a parenthetical comment. Cheers, Wikkitywack ( talk) 02:16, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll take your word on these things. I've noticed many band templates that, after the band falls out of general popularity, the articles/templates get filled with all sorts of misinformation, in good and bad faith, and many of the Sugar Ray articles are in rather rough shape, so I jumped to the conclusion that the template was in similar shape, as I didn't recall those songs being singles. I guess they were all merely the type of singles that failed to chart (which explains why they don't have their own articles, where I would usually go to quickly check and verify such things.) Sergecross73 msg me 02:54, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey. I haven't talked to you in a while. And I have just created my own page, and I wanted your opinion. Nintendo 3DS AR Games TheBradford msg Bradford 00:18, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey Bradford. Thanks for the heads up. I'll look at it! Sergecross73 msg me 01:18, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback! And I would also really like to thank you for adding the sources, it was very helpful! TheBradford msg Bradford 16:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Well done for being bold whilst the rest of us were frankly faffing! danno 21:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Haha, thanks! I don't like to usually be that bold on that important of a page, but no argument against it was ever really given, and your edit summary prior to mine showed that I wasn't the only one who wanted it gone... Sergecross73 msg me 13:06, 31 August 2011 (UTC)