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— Spaceman Spiff 09:31, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello Nikhil.joshi.d. With this edit you added a copy of a diagram located on Google Drive. This has to qualify as Self published. See WP:Reliable source for what Wikipedia's sourcing requirements are. Thank you, EdJohnston ( talk) 17:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- @ EdJohnston: I agree but the diagram isn't of my own making, if you want I can send forward the contact of the prof. McDonald who is running that project, you can confirm it from him. Moreover autosomal analysis is only a part of the comment.
The major news/information part was the founding of R1b* DNA on a Madhyandin Brahman, and H* on mtDna, and that is public information from a public sample. I am not sure why there should be any objections for that ? Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk) 20:00, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- It has been pointed out to you that editors don't like
genetic analysis in individual caste articles. Not only do you want to add such analysis, but you also don't understand that linking to a self-published project is unacceptable. If you can't figure out how to deal with our rules, admins have the ability to ban you from caste articles. Thank you,
EdJohnston (
talk) 20:25, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- @ EdJohnston: I don't know who told you that I was putting links on "self published" projects. Whoever did that is the person you should think hard about if they are being given admin rights. The link I mentioned is : https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1bBasalSubclades?iframe=yresults This link is MOST DEFINITELY NOT SELF PUBLISHED PROJECT.
- @ EdJohnston: I am going to make a few more changes to that article, and I have added this request in the Talk section. If you look at how things unfold there, I am pretty sure you'd know that atleast one of the admins/editors? of that page is having some type of agenda.
Fake edit summaries such as this are going to land you in a lot of bother. You are already aware of the sanctions regime that exists for articles of this type, being notified last June. Am I really going to have to issue the same notice again on the exact anniversary just to ensure that you cannot continue your long-standing, if intermittent, disruption? - Sitush ( talk) 17:50, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sitush What exactly is fake about it ?
- Thats it I am going to moderators. There is nothing fake about saying that Deshasthas are not the same ethnic people as andhrapradesh brahmins, or madhawa brahmans. And it was definitely an unsourced article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk • contribs) 20:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- SitushThe only sources it has are articles to Madhwa Brahmans and Smartha Brahman. How is that a "reference" ? Infact one of the posters very craftily attaches the word "Deshastha" in front of Madhawa brahmans , and calls them "Deshastha Madhawa Brahmans" when there is no such caste in existance. -- Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk) 18:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- {{sfn|Karnataka (India)|Abhishankar|Kāmat|1990|p=242}}; {{sfn|Suryanarayana|2002|p=54}}. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:32, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Deshastha Brahmin shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Sitush ( talk) 03:34, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sure lets go to moderators, I have enough evidences of your crafty agenda driven behavior.-- Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk) 03:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
For Continued disruption over years with an inability to edit collaboratively despite multiple alerts and attempts to communicate, constant reverts with an "only I am right" attitude, sockpuppetry using IPs to continue the same agenda, I have decided, in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the terms of this community discussion, to impose the following sanction on you:
indefinitely topic banned from any edits pertaining to castes and social groups of South Asia across any and all name spaces of the English Wikipedia
This sanction has been logged at Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction to the community at the administrators' noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me on my talk page, before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. — Spaceman Spiff 03:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- This is a violation of your topic ban, any further violations will be met with blocks. — Spaceman Spiff 03:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —
Spaceman
Spiff 04:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Hi, I want to file a dispute can you remove the block so that I can do that. ?
Decline reason:
You can do that after the block expires. Looks like you'e been edit warring and you violated a topic ban? You might want to review all that. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 04:43, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- No I don't think I modified any article after the ban ? I did modify talk page of the article though, since that is what the post says I should do ? --
Nikhil.joshi.d (
talk) 06:24, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- No, the message says that you are topic banned from all namespaces. You basically cannot write anything anywhere about caste/social groups etc of South Asia unless and until the topic ban is lifted, and that includes article talk pages and user talk pages (including this one). You were warned that you had breached the ban by editing Talk:Deshastha Brahmin and that if you did so again then you would be blocked. You then did it again and were indeed blocked. - Sitush ( talk) 07:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- No I don't think I modified any article after the ban ? I did modify talk page of the article though, since that is what the post says I should do ? --
Nikhil.joshi.d (
talk) 06:24, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
UTRS appeal #21550 was submitted on May 17, 2018 04:23:41. This review is now closed.
-- UTRSBot ( talk) 04:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
UTRS appeal #21552 was submitted on May 17, 2018 05:04:59. This review is now closed.
-- UTRSBot ( talk) 05:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —
Spaceman
Spiff 02:55, 29 May 2018 (UTC){{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —
Spaceman
Spiff 07:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)- If this behavior continues then your next block will be indefinite. — Spaceman Spiff 07:37, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- ( talk) Why do you lie ? I did not use any ip socks or anything like that. Do you have any linkage , any info ? Or are you merely using your supposedly "third party" sense of administration here ? Your are very clearly pals with the other guy Sitahush or whatever his name was, who seems to send to you a hit list of people he wants banned.
Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
UTRS appeal #21710 was submitted on Jun 04, 2018 05:52:44. This review is now closed.
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. The following links will help you begin editing on Wikipedia:
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- Respect copyrights – do not copy and paste text or images directly from other websites.
- Maintain a neutral point of view – this is one of Wikipedia's core policies.
- Take particular care while adding biographical material about a living person to any Wikipedia page and follow Wikipedia's Biography of Living Persons policy. Particularly, controversial and negative statements should be referenced with multiple reliable sources.
- No edit warring or abuse of multiple accounts.
- If you are testing, please use the Sandbox to do so.
- Do not add troublesome content to any article, such as: copyrighted text, libel, advertising or promotional messages, and text that is not related to an article's subject. Deliberately adding such content or otherwise editing articles maliciously is considered vandalism; doing so will result in your account or IP being blocked from editing.
- Do not use talk pages as discussion or forum pages as Wikipedia is not a forum.
The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~ (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome! Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for
your contributions to Wikipedia. Your recent talk page comments on
Talk:Deshastha Brahmin were not added to the bottom of the page. New discussion page messages and topics should always be added to the bottom. Your message may have been moved. In the future you can use the "New section" link in the top right. For more details see the
talk page guidelines. Thank you.
Kautilya3 (
talk) 08:47, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of
your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to
Deshastha Brahmin, did not appear constructive and has been
reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our
welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use
the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you.
Joshua Jonathan -
Let's talk! 08:53, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
|
|
The Wikipedia community has permitted
administrators to impose
discretionary sanctions on any editor who is active on any page about social groups, explicitly including caste associations and political parties, related to
India,
Pakistan,
Sri Lanka,
Bangladesh and
Nepal. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the
purpose of Wikipedia, any expected
standards of behavior, or any
normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or a topic ban. The discussion leading to the imposition of these sanctions can be read
here.
Please familiarise yourself with the information page at Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups. |
— Spaceman Spiff 09:31, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello Nikhil.joshi.d. With this edit you added a copy of a diagram located on Google Drive. This has to qualify as Self published. See WP:Reliable source for what Wikipedia's sourcing requirements are. Thank you, EdJohnston ( talk) 17:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- @ EdJohnston: I agree but the diagram isn't of my own making, if you want I can send forward the contact of the prof. McDonald who is running that project, you can confirm it from him. Moreover autosomal analysis is only a part of the comment.
The major news/information part was the founding of R1b* DNA on a Madhyandin Brahman, and H* on mtDna, and that is public information from a public sample. I am not sure why there should be any objections for that ? Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk) 20:00, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- It has been pointed out to you that editors don't like
genetic analysis in individual caste articles. Not only do you want to add such analysis, but you also don't understand that linking to a self-published project is unacceptable. If you can't figure out how to deal with our rules, admins have the ability to ban you from caste articles. Thank you,
EdJohnston (
talk) 20:25, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- @ EdJohnston: I don't know who told you that I was putting links on "self published" projects. Whoever did that is the person you should think hard about if they are being given admin rights. The link I mentioned is : https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1bBasalSubclades?iframe=yresults This link is MOST DEFINITELY NOT SELF PUBLISHED PROJECT.
- @ EdJohnston: I am going to make a few more changes to that article, and I have added this request in the Talk section. If you look at how things unfold there, I am pretty sure you'd know that atleast one of the admins/editors? of that page is having some type of agenda.
Fake edit summaries such as this are going to land you in a lot of bother. You are already aware of the sanctions regime that exists for articles of this type, being notified last June. Am I really going to have to issue the same notice again on the exact anniversary just to ensure that you cannot continue your long-standing, if intermittent, disruption? - Sitush ( talk) 17:50, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sitush What exactly is fake about it ?
- Thats it I am going to moderators. There is nothing fake about saying that Deshasthas are not the same ethnic people as andhrapradesh brahmins, or madhawa brahmans. And it was definitely an unsourced article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk • contribs) 20:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- SitushThe only sources it has are articles to Madhwa Brahmans and Smartha Brahman. How is that a "reference" ? Infact one of the posters very craftily attaches the word "Deshastha" in front of Madhawa brahmans , and calls them "Deshastha Madhawa Brahmans" when there is no such caste in existance. -- Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk) 18:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- {{sfn|Karnataka (India)|Abhishankar|Kāmat|1990|p=242}}; {{sfn|Suryanarayana|2002|p=54}}. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:32, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Deshastha Brahmin shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Sitush ( talk) 03:34, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sure lets go to moderators, I have enough evidences of your crafty agenda driven behavior.-- Nikhil.joshi.d ( talk) 03:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
For Continued disruption over years with an inability to edit collaboratively despite multiple alerts and attempts to communicate, constant reverts with an "only I am right" attitude, sockpuppetry using IPs to continue the same agenda, I have decided, in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the terms of this community discussion, to impose the following sanction on you:
indefinitely topic banned from any edits pertaining to castes and social groups of South Asia across any and all name spaces of the English Wikipedia
This sanction has been logged at Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction to the community at the administrators' noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me on my talk page, before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. — Spaceman Spiff 03:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- This is a violation of your topic ban, any further violations will be met with blocks. — Spaceman Spiff 03:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —
Spaceman
Spiff 04:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Hi, I want to file a dispute can you remove the block so that I can do that. ?
Decline reason:
You can do that after the block expires. Looks like you'e been edit warring and you violated a topic ban? You might want to review all that. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 04:43, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- No I don't think I modified any article after the ban ? I did modify talk page of the article though, since that is what the post says I should do ? --
Nikhil.joshi.d (
talk) 06:24, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- No, the message says that you are topic banned from all namespaces. You basically cannot write anything anywhere about caste/social groups etc of South Asia unless and until the topic ban is lifted, and that includes article talk pages and user talk pages (including this one). You were warned that you had breached the ban by editing Talk:Deshastha Brahmin and that if you did so again then you would be blocked. You then did it again and were indeed blocked. - Sitush ( talk) 07:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- No I don't think I modified any article after the ban ? I did modify talk page of the article though, since that is what the post says I should do ? --
Nikhil.joshi.d (
talk) 06:24, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
UTRS appeal #21550 was submitted on May 17, 2018 04:23:41. This review is now closed.
-- UTRSBot ( talk) 04:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
UTRS appeal #21552 was submitted on May 17, 2018 05:04:59. This review is now closed.
-- UTRSBot ( talk) 05:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —
Spaceman
Spiff 02:55, 29 May 2018 (UTC){{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —
Spaceman
Spiff 07:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)- If this behavior continues then your next block will be indefinite. — Spaceman Spiff 07:37, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- ( talk) Why do you lie ? I did not use any ip socks or anything like that. Do you have any linkage , any info ? Or are you merely using your supposedly "third party" sense of administration here ? Your are very clearly pals with the other guy Sitahush or whatever his name was, who seems to send to you a hit list of people he wants banned.
Nikhil.joshi.d ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
UTRS appeal #21710 was submitted on Jun 04, 2018 05:52:44. This review is now closed.