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Sorry. I only added Invest 96-L (It's correct name for right now) as it has a high chance of development (80%). Now that I think about it, Invests more than likely fall under either WP:TOOSOON or WP:CRYSTAL BALL. This should become a depression/storm soon at which point it can be added back in under its new name (like ETA). Also, what is F13? You mentioned it in the edit summary on the page, but I could not find any info on it within the Wikipedia policies you linked to (unless I missed it). Moline1 ( talk) 03:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

It is all good. I understand, your edit was reverted as we usually don't mention invests until they begin to have advisories come out, at which case they are classified as a tropical cyclone. That is why I left this on your talk page. I was not the person who reverted your edit, but the person who did revert your edit was referring to an organization known as "Force thirteen, which is a group of of people on Youtube who make videos about tropical cyclones, but they are not accurate when it comes to the system strengths, and they commonly go against the NHC for tropical cyclone classifications. I think they inferred that you got your info from them based on the way your edit looked. My apologies, I just wanted to leave this message on your talk page just in case you didn't know why your edit was reverted, or how to edit a tropical cyclone page. I hope this helps in some way, thanks for the response. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 03:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Ah, ok. Thanks for your reply. The info that I used for the Invest 96-L section came from Weather Channel, and not YouTube Videos. I am a bit surprised YouTubers do that. I'm surprised the NHC hasn't tried to stop them. Still no development yet, but probably later today or tomorrow, it will have. Moline1 ( talk) 13:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Oh okay, yeah that is fine, as I said before we don't label the system until it is officially labeled as a tropical cyclone, so when they begin to release advisories and updates. I was surprised too, until I looked them up, and found that there is actually a decent number of people who believe what F13 says, even though some of the things they say are false. For example, they did a recap of the 2019 Hurricane season, and they thought that Hurricane Lorenzo was only a category 4, that Jerry was only a Cat 1, and that Nestor was a Subtropical storm. Apparently sometimes people try to edit Wikipedia because they think F13 is correct, though it isn't at all. I honestly don't think that the NHC cares, because it is a relatively small channel voicing their opinions, and honestly I think that most people trust the NHC way more that some small Youtube channel anyway. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Exactly! The info Weather Channel gets is straight from the NHC and the Models (GFS, EURO, etc). Definitely not like the YouTube junk out there. Still nothing as of yet per Weather Channel Radar. Moline1 ( talk) 19:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC) Yes indeed. It appears that the NHC has begun to label the system. Also, I left an invite to our wiki-project if you're interested in joining.🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 21:36, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

TD 29 has finally formed. Looks like someone beat us to the punch. Moline1 ( talk) 21:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

I may join. This hurricane season has had me intrigued as I do not remember 2005's at all. Moline1 ( talk) 21:48, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Yeah, looks like it. Yes it is very intriguing, I agree, for me at least it was very memorable. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 21:52, 31 October 2020 (UTC) Well, Here we are two days later with a strong hurricane threatening Central America. it is amazing how quickly these systems have intensified lately. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 17:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC) reply

It is! What happens when this moves over water again is up for grabs. Weather Channel said it could either remain the same, or weaken, loose everything, and attain a new identity (rather than be rechristened under ETA). Moline1 ( talk) 22:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Yeah, from what I have been hearing, the system could do anything, as it is still too early to tell, but I have been hearing that once it makes landfall it may become a CAG which will lead to more rainfall and spawn another system. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 01:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply

We will have to wait and see. I'm kind of curious to see how far we get into the Greek Alphabet before the season ends (provided the storms don't landfall), although we cannot discount December (see 2005), and that has 31 days of potential tropical activity. Only time will tell. Moline1 ( talk) 02:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply

I agree. I am too, I am hoping it ends sooner rather than later, it sure has been tiring lol. I agree though, we can't discount any month of the year provided conditions are favorable for development. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 03:44, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
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Well, we have Invest 97-L as well as another area that is not yet an invest in addition to Eta. Next storm is Iotta (or whatever name it is). 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 Moline1 ( talk) 14:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I saw it this morning, it'll be interesting to see what comes of the system. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 16:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Yes it will! Invest 97-L has 80% chance while the one closer to ETA has 50% right now. Moline1 ( talk) 00:09, 10 November 2020 (UTC) definitely. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 00:31, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Subtropical Storm Theta just formed. Heard it on my local weather cast. 2020 is now more active than 2005 (2005 technically had an ETA, but it went unnoticed till 2006, and so wasn't named) Moline1 ( talk) 03:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC) Very crazy. Who would have thought that this season would turn out like this...🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 04:12, 10 November 2020 (UTC) Right? We still have that other area to watch with a 50% chance of development. This will be Iota if it does anything. We also have 31 days of December as well. If that happens, not only will we have much more storms than 2005, we would also have more off-season storms than 2005 (2005 had December storms, while 2020 currently has only May). Only time will tell. Moline1 ( talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC) definitely.. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 04:31, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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I think I will. Thanks! Moline1 ( talk) 19:15, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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Volume XLIV, Issue 44, December 1, 2020
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The Hurricane Herald: Happy Thanksgiving Edition!

The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from October 5–November 30, 2020. This edition's editors and authors are SMB99thx, Weatherman27, Chicdat, Hurricanehink, Cyclone Toby, Typhoon2013, and ChessEric. Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

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Featured Content

From October 5 to November 30, two featured articles were promoted:

From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from October 5–November 30, 2020 in chronological order.

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As of this issue, there are 164 featured articles and 70 featured lists. There are 133 A-class articles, and 1,010 good articles. There are only 71 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 415 C-class articles, 788 start-class articles, and 182 stub-class articles, with 23 lists, and 9 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1000th GA in the project.

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Storms of the month over the last year
Month Storm
November 2020 Hurricane Iota
October 2020 Typhoon Goni (2020)
September 2020 Cyclone Ianos
August 2020 Hurricane Laura
July 2020 Hurricane Isaias
June 2020 Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020)
May 2020 Cyclone Amphan
April 2020 Cyclone Harold
March 2020 Cyclone Herold
February 2020 Cyclone Damien
January 2020 Cyclone Tino
December 2019 Cyclone Ambali
November 2019 Cyclone Bulbul
October 2019 Typhoon Hagibis

Storms of the month and other tropical activity for October and November


SotM for October: Typhoon Goni / Rolly
Typhoon Goni formed from east of The Philippines towards the end of October, just as Typhoon Molave ravaged the country. Taking in the plentiful favorable conditions, Goni, known as Rolly in The Philippines, explosively intensified into a Category-5 equivalent hurricane just three days after it became a tropical depression. An eyewall replacement cycle managed to curb its intensification. Goni finished the cycle a few hours before it made landfall, and explosively intensified again into winds of 195 mph (JTWC) and a pressure of 884 mbar. This allowed it to tie with typhoons Haiyan and Meranti as the strongest typhoon by wind speed. Goni made landfall at peak intensity, killing 25 people and causing US$368 million in damage.


SotM for November: Hurricane Iota
Hurricane Iota developed in the central Caribbean Sea in mid-November. Like Goni, it explosively intensified, strengthening 120 mph in 48 hours, and deepening 81 mbar in the same amount of time. Iota explosively strengthened late on November 15 and early on November 16, becoming a Category 5 hurricane at 15:00 UTC on the 16th. By the time Iota had achieved C5 intensity, three people were already dead in Colombia due to landslides. As the storm made landfall, and subsequently weakened and dissipated, adding to the destruction from Hurricane Eta. Iota killed at least 61 people.


  • Atlantic - Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota.

The active Atlantic hurricane season continued. In early October, Tropical Storm Gamma dissipated over the northern Yucatan and was absorbed by powerful Hurricane Delta, which was the season's third major hurricane. Delta weakened before hitting Quintana Roo, but restrengthened in the Gulf of Mexico, later hitting Louisiana as a low-end Category 2 hurricane in nearly the same location as Hurricane Laura in August. Delta killed six people and left US$4 billion in damage. A few days later, Hurricane Epsilon developed southeast of Bermuda, becoming a major hurricane and brushing the island to the east. Hurricane Zeta followed a similar path as Delta, striking Quintana Roo and later striking southeastern Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane; it killed 8 people and left U$3 billion in damage. At the end of the month, Hurricane Eta developed, becoming a strong Category 4 hurricane before striking Nicaragua. After killing hundreds of people in Central America, Eta reformed in the northwestern Caribbean. It made another landfall in Cuba, moved over the Florida Keys, and briefly became a hurricane again in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, before weakening and striking Cedar Key, Florida as a tropical storm. In early November, Tropical Storm Theta developed from a non-tropical low and moved across the eastern Atlantic.

Member of the month (edition) – Robloxsupersuperhappyface


Robloxsupersuperhappyface joined Wikipedia in July of this year, and has become the most prolific tropical cyclone editor relating to current events, as well as playing an enormous role in creation of newly formed tropical cyclones that eventually became destructive in many regions they are affected in ( Hurricane Sally to Gulf Coast of the United States, Typhoon Goni to the Philippines, and Hurricane Iota to Central America respectively - Also, both Goni and Iota are Storms of the Month!). Because of that reason, Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles are the one of the most viewed tropical cyclone articles in this year - as well as helped us on inviting prospective tropical cyclone editors to this project as they edited Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles, leading into why we have more than 100 members in this WikiProject leading to this issue. As the result of brilliant Robloxsupersuperhappyface's contributions, we want to give many, many thanks to Super for helping this WikiProject grow so much recently. Happy Thanksgiving!

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Let's talk about that - An opinion piece by Weatherman27


Before I start, I would like to link everyone to a new essay regarding Force Thirteen. Here it is: WP:F13. I recommend users (old and new) to read this to understand why we don't use Force Thirteen as a source, and why it isn't a reliable source. If you want to see what good reliable sources are, read this: WP:WPTC/AS Now, I will get to the main point of this opinion piece.


Recently, I have gotten more involved in talk pages, and sharing my ideas and/or my opinions on different issues or ideas that have come up, primarily on 2020 Atlantic hurricane season's talk page. As I have discussed these thoughts and ideas with other editors, I have noticed and experienced some things such as being personally attacked, which has led me to want to reiterated some key points here. Despite the fact that they are mentioned commonly at the top of talk pages, I want to bring these up as it is important to have a good base where people can properly chat and discuss topics in peace.

1. Treat others with respect This one can't be stressed enough. Especially on talk pages, it is a place where you and your peers communicate issues, opinions, or ideas to each-other. This means discussing topics in a kind and adult manner. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing in what somebody may say, but that does not mean that you have the right to put them down for not having similar views. It is simply the Golden Rule.

2. Assume Good faith Along with my first point, I feel this one needs to be brought up. People have different opinions, and that is all right, but just because you may not agree with it or what they say, does not mean that it was not out of good faith. They were most likely voicing what they think on the subject, and that is alright. This also goes for edits. Unless it is pretty obvious that a user as vandalized something, it is always good to assume good faith, as other people might not know the rules as well as a more experienced editor.

3. Avoid Personal attacks This is a very important subject that needs to be remembered not just on talk pages, but on all other parts of Wikipedia as well. On talk pages, discussions can get pretty tense and heated, and I admit that I have gotten into a few of these arguments as well. Despite this, it is never okay to attack someone. As a user who has gotten personally attacked before, I can definitely say that it does not feel good, and usually the person who made the attacked will get warned or blocked, so please be kind and accept what other people have to say, because you will get nowhere by being rude.

4. Come to a consensus (preferably a clear one) On talk pages, whenever there is a discussion regarding something important like the merging of an article, people need to decide what the outcome of something important on a talk page. For example, if there is say, a merge discussion for an article on a tropical cyclone, many people will give their input. Usually, different people will have different views on whether to merge or keep the article. Sometimes, the editor will close the discussion early, but this is usually for unrelated reasons, though it sometimes may be because the editor had a change of mind. Now, if there is support for say a merge of the article, then that will be the consensus and the discussion will be closed and the article merged. This can also happen on the opposite side, if an article is to be kept, the discussion will be closed and article kept. Simply put, it is important to discuss and come to a clear decision if there is a consensus involved, to avoid difficulty with the article or page in the future.

These are just a few examples of things that editors of the WPTC need to remember when using talk page discussions. There are plenty of other things not mentioned here that are just as important when it comes to using talk pages. I made this simply to help remind editors the key points when using the discussions, and I hope these were helpful to new users as well as veterans. We need to really get better at staying calm and keeping civil. I have noticed lots of hostility and arguing lately, as well as edit warring and disputes. We need to work this out. We are supposed to work together as WPTC editors, so please fix it. It is sad seeing so many editors getting reported or having to get blocked from this. Once again, keep discussions civil and have a good day. Signing off,

🌀 Weatherman27🏈

My experiences as a WikiProject Tropical cyclones member by SMB99thx


Hello again, people of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones! In here, I want to tell how my experiences with WikiProject Tropical Cyclones changed my views on WikiProjects, helped me out of trouble and to be able to regain the trust of many people in Wikipedia.


When I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones, it was the second WikiProject I have ever joined. The first WikiProject I have ever joined is WikiProject COVID-19, and the reason why I joined that project is to gain trust of people when I contributed to COVID-19 articles and as well as my fight against an IP editor which turned out to be the LTA named Bedriczwaleta (and has been active much more longer than I thought, since February of last year (!!!!)). I have the same thought process (and combined with my plans of editing old season articles, which is not done yet) when I first joined this WikiProject, but joining the WikiProject Tropical cyclones turned out to be something different. It led me to know what are the purposes of WikiProjects are and in turn led me to join many other WikiProjects since.

As such, what made me change my views on WikiProjects during my time as a WikiProject Tropical Cyclones?

First of all, I have seen that WikiProject Tropical cyclones members always actively work together to advance project goals, actively participating in discussions and give much-needed advice on new WikiProject Tropical cyclones members (including me). Second, WPTC really cares about our articles (and the assessments) as part of their project goals. 2018 FT project and Meteorological history of Hurricane Dorian (Four Award!) is a prime example of this. Third, we are actively welcoming the new members of this WikiProject and giving these members opportunity to succeed with us by i.e. giving out WikiLove (barnstars). Fourth, we, like WP COVID-19, actively fight against vandals and other LTAs e.g. Sidow........., UnderArmorKid, and Iphonehurricane95.

These kinds of activity led me to change my belief on what WikiProjects truly are. You could see this kind of activity on other good WikiProjects like WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors, which I just joined recently on 26 October 2020 as of this newsletter and WikiProject Articles of Creation, which I have interest on joining but I might not be able to.

Now, why WikiProject Tropical cyclones brought me out of trouble (and Chicdat, for that matter)?

WikiProject Tropical cyclones is generally a content-creating WikiProject. We really care about improving tropical cyclone coverage on Wikipedia. Members of this WikiProject generally encouraged to communicate and discuss (in Wikipedia, in Discord, or in IRC channel), and this is what helped me and Chicdat out from trouble since our discussions from what I have seen is not always administrative.

Before I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones (and when I was still new to WikiProject Tropical cyclones), I have been putting myself on trouble numerous times. I was an ANI regular, and as an ANI regular I detailed about my struggle to deal with the LTA Bedriczwaleta and I'm was also putting up IBAN proposals of User:Jadebenn and User:Moamem as well as User:U1Quattro and User:1292simon. While I have managed to get my proposal succeeded and finally got Bedriczwaleta back on track for a while (what I thought), in August 20 (as I was about to finalize my decision to enter my college I'm currently in right now) I got myself into serious trouble against IP range 185.66.252.0/23 (which is apparently good at programming - I'm not). I tried to get them blocked for PA (calling me a thief who has a black soul), but this is where when I realized that I had to attribute things I copied within Wikipedia and I had to apologize to the user. Since then, I did my best to attribute everything I had copied articles from ( Example) and I also realized that ANI is not for me (as I do not want to get into troubles by just being there), which led me to quitting ANI until November of this year when I decided to involve myself on Miggy72 dispute (now banned for sockpuppetry - Miggy72 could have been invited to WPTC if he stopped on insisting to create non-notable topics).

After that incident with the IP range 185.66.252.0/23, I have stated that I do not want to get myself into trouble as a presence in ANI. As such, I decided to focus on what I want to do, which is to continue my project of splitting season articles of the yesteryear and began to increasingly involve myself within the project - to look for help and giving the best help that I can do for this WikiProject. The activity from that September led me to become Member of the Month in the previous edition of this newsletter. It was a comeback that I needed, and I want to thank WikiProject Tropical cyclones (especially Hurricanehink) for getting me on this situation. Without their help, I'm not sure if I could be here on this day.

Now, for the final question – why this WikiProject helped me (and Chicdat) regain trust of many people in Wikipedia?

As I stated before, this WikiProject encourages discussion within other members of this WikiProject, which in turn encourages close involvement in all sides of this WikiProject. Because of this, some people are actually helping us learning policies in Wikipedia as the time goes on, rather than falling in into blocks. As such, with time, I have seen that some admins are open for Chicdat to become a rollbacker, while I got hold on several automated gadgets that was more useful. It appears that these tools are the reason why these people are one of the more trusted people in Wikipedia, which in turn helped me a lot at gaining trust. Someday in the future, I'm looking to become an admin by myself. But that's for the another day. For now, what I'm currently doing now is to work at my craft to eventually prepare for the day when I will seek for adminship in the years ahead.

In conclusion, you can see that this WikiProject helped me to regain my standing, alongside Chicdat, Nioni1234, Cristianpogi678, HurricaneTracker495 - and of course - CyclonicallyDeranged! If not for this WikiProject, I don't think they are will be here. Chicdat could have been CIR-blocked like Prahlad balaji and PythonSwarm, Nioni1234 and Cristianpogi678 ending up like Binbin0111 and Miggy72, HurricaneTracker495 would have a trouble establishing himself (or probably will never establish theirselves and stay as an IP) and CyclonicallyDeranged fully driven out from Wikipedia.

By the way, to me, both Binbin0111 and Miggy72 are young, but unfortunately they took on the wrong path (Binbin0111 was one of the earliest Force Thirteen insinuators - Binbin0111 is probably the impetus of Force Thirteen policy in this project (as it was made back in 2017), while Miggy72... we know what happened). I feel bad for them, especially Binbin0111. Had Binbin0111 is willing to learn and took steps forward to become productive young editor like Yellow Evan and two other resilient young editors I have mentioned did, Binbin0111 could have been one of the most valuable editors in this project, especially in matters related to Western Pacific basin, and in extension, Vietnam.

That's it. That's what I have to say. College is increasingly getting into my feelings right now, but I will do my best as I can coming into December. Sorry if I have a bad English. Thanks for reading this opinion piece!

Greetings from Indonesia,

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You are blocked for 2 weeks. Next time will be indefinite. Get it together. Sergecross73 msg me 22:53, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Your edits continue to have sourcing issues no matter how many times you're warned. Your account is blocked, but you can still edit your talk page. You are blocked until you can satisfactorily explain the concepts of WP:V and WP:OR to myself or another admin. Part of it should also include explaining how you will stop making errors like this in the future, and, for example, explaining what was wrong with this edit. Sergecross73 msg me 13:52, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

WP:V means that other people can check the encyclopedic content for verifiability whilst WP:OR means original research is not allowed. I added U2 to the alternative dance article as all of their albums in the 1990s (sans 1995's Original Soundtracks 1 with Brian Eno) embraced that style, and all of them were big successes for the band (particularly Achtung Baby), so I thought it should be stated that they contributed to the style (as the rest of the article ignores the band's alt-dance contributions currently) alongside New Order, Fatboy Slim, and The Prodigy (who make up the Big 4 of alt-dance imo). I am sorry for not including a source for my edit, and will do better at including them from now on. Moline1 ( talk) 20:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Do you understand how to add sources? Why didn't you add a source to the alt dance article when you've been warned and blocked for this before? What source do you feel verifies the U2 addition to the alt dance article in the context of your addition? Sergecross73 msg me 22:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
After looking over Achtung Baby, Zooropa, and Pop, none of them are called alternative dance. Pop has the genre listed, but the article does not mention it itself, meaning that is unsourced, and should be removed (as should my claim on the alt-dance article). I apologize for not finding a source. My mind was in a not so good place when I made the edit. I'll be better about finding sources from here on out! Moline1 ( talk) 23:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not (yet) fully convinced that this editor truly understands the issue at hand. Since returning from the previous unsourced editing block (which was already their second), they also made this unsourced content addition. Apologies and promises help, but can only go so far. Moline1, in addition to the questions raised above, maybe, just maybe, describing specific types of edits you wish/plan to make and showing specific sources you'd use for such edits would be helpful for a convincing unblock request. But I'm not an admin, so this is merely a suggestion and not a guarantee. (Non-administrator comment) Left guide ( talk) 02:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I looked back at that edit, and went to the This Note's for You article, and found no source cited for the lawsuit by Harold Melvin, but I found a suitable source from Ultimate Classic Rock that can be used to source the claims on both pages. https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-young-this-notes-for-you/ Moline1 ( talk) 03:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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What claims are you referring to though? That source doesn't appear to mention a lawsuit so I'm not following what you're using that source for... Sergecross73 msg me 13:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The lawsuit spiel is towards the bottom of the UCR source. Here is that text from it: "Then the group had to change the Bluenotes moniker after a lawsuit arrived from ‘70s R&B star Harold Melvin, who led his own band called the Blue Notes. This Note’s for You was reissued without their name. Not that it mattered much, because few people heard or bought the album."
Read More: How Neil Young's 'This Note's for You' Ended an Era of Stumbles | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-young-this-notes-for-you/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral Moline1 ( talk) 14:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Gotcha. I missed it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I've revised your block time from indef to 1 month. I'm happy that you're finally talking and trying to learn how to do this right, but disappointed that your most recent edits and subsequent block seem to come from a blatant disregard for policies you've been warned about at length prior. Please take the month to firm up your understand of WP:V and WP:OR. As far as I'm concerned, there won't be any further second chances after this, so you want to make sure you really get it moving forward. Sergecross73 msg me 15:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I will do that! Moline1 ( talk) 22:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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October 2020

Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarize yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 02:37, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Sorry. I only added Invest 96-L (It's correct name for right now) as it has a high chance of development (80%). Now that I think about it, Invests more than likely fall under either WP:TOOSOON or WP:CRYSTAL BALL. This should become a depression/storm soon at which point it can be added back in under its new name (like ETA). Also, what is F13? You mentioned it in the edit summary on the page, but I could not find any info on it within the Wikipedia policies you linked to (unless I missed it). Moline1 ( talk) 03:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

It is all good. I understand, your edit was reverted as we usually don't mention invests until they begin to have advisories come out, at which case they are classified as a tropical cyclone. That is why I left this on your talk page. I was not the person who reverted your edit, but the person who did revert your edit was referring to an organization known as "Force thirteen, which is a group of of people on Youtube who make videos about tropical cyclones, but they are not accurate when it comes to the system strengths, and they commonly go against the NHC for tropical cyclone classifications. I think they inferred that you got your info from them based on the way your edit looked. My apologies, I just wanted to leave this message on your talk page just in case you didn't know why your edit was reverted, or how to edit a tropical cyclone page. I hope this helps in some way, thanks for the response. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 03:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Ah, ok. Thanks for your reply. The info that I used for the Invest 96-L section came from Weather Channel, and not YouTube Videos. I am a bit surprised YouTubers do that. I'm surprised the NHC hasn't tried to stop them. Still no development yet, but probably later today or tomorrow, it will have. Moline1 ( talk) 13:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Oh okay, yeah that is fine, as I said before we don't label the system until it is officially labeled as a tropical cyclone, so when they begin to release advisories and updates. I was surprised too, until I looked them up, and found that there is actually a decent number of people who believe what F13 says, even though some of the things they say are false. For example, they did a recap of the 2019 Hurricane season, and they thought that Hurricane Lorenzo was only a category 4, that Jerry was only a Cat 1, and that Nestor was a Subtropical storm. Apparently sometimes people try to edit Wikipedia because they think F13 is correct, though it isn't at all. I honestly don't think that the NHC cares, because it is a relatively small channel voicing their opinions, and honestly I think that most people trust the NHC way more that some small Youtube channel anyway. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 15:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Exactly! The info Weather Channel gets is straight from the NHC and the Models (GFS, EURO, etc). Definitely not like the YouTube junk out there. Still nothing as of yet per Weather Channel Radar. Moline1 ( talk) 19:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC) Yes indeed. It appears that the NHC has begun to label the system. Also, I left an invite to our wiki-project if you're interested in joining.🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 21:36, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

TD 29 has finally formed. Looks like someone beat us to the punch. Moline1 ( talk) 21:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

I may join. This hurricane season has had me intrigued as I do not remember 2005's at all. Moline1 ( talk) 21:48, 31 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Yeah, looks like it. Yes it is very intriguing, I agree, for me at least it was very memorable. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( talk). 21:52, 31 October 2020 (UTC) Well, Here we are two days later with a strong hurricane threatening Central America. it is amazing how quickly these systems have intensified lately. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 17:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC) reply

It is! What happens when this moves over water again is up for grabs. Weather Channel said it could either remain the same, or weaken, loose everything, and attain a new identity (rather than be rechristened under ETA). Moline1 ( talk) 22:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Yeah, from what I have been hearing, the system could do anything, as it is still too early to tell, but I have been hearing that once it makes landfall it may become a CAG which will lead to more rainfall and spawn another system. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 01:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply

We will have to wait and see. I'm kind of curious to see how far we get into the Greek Alphabet before the season ends (provided the storms don't landfall), although we cannot discount December (see 2005), and that has 31 days of potential tropical activity. Only time will tell. Moline1 ( talk) 02:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply

I agree. I am too, I am hoping it ends sooner rather than later, it sure has been tiring lol. I agree though, we can't discount any month of the year provided conditions are favorable for development. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 03:44, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
Also, if you join the WPTC, here is a welcome in advanced! 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 01:47, 7 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Well, we have Invest 97-L as well as another area that is not yet an invest in addition to Eta. Next storm is Iotta (or whatever name it is). 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 Moline1 ( talk) 14:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I saw it this morning, it'll be interesting to see what comes of the system. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 16:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Yes it will! Invest 97-L has 80% chance while the one closer to ETA has 50% right now. Moline1 ( talk) 00:09, 10 November 2020 (UTC) definitely. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 00:31, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Subtropical Storm Theta just formed. Heard it on my local weather cast. 2020 is now more active than 2005 (2005 technically had an ETA, but it went unnoticed till 2006, and so wasn't named) Moline1 ( talk) 03:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC) Very crazy. Who would have thought that this season would turn out like this...🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 04:12, 10 November 2020 (UTC) Right? We still have that other area to watch with a 50% chance of development. This will be Iota if it does anything. We also have 31 days of December as well. If that happens, not only will we have much more storms than 2005, we would also have more off-season storms than 2005 (2005 had December storms, while 2020 currently has only May). Only time will tell. Moline1 ( talk) 04:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC) definitely.. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 04:31, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 18:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

I think I will. Thanks! Moline1 ( talk) 19:15, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

yeah, no problem :) 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( chat with me!). 20:00, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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So you're new to this project too! Welcome! 🌀 Hurricane Janor ( talk) 17:07, 11 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Thanks! Moline1 ( talk) 23:39, 11 November 2020 (UTC) reply
Hello. I would like to point out that HurricaneJanor above is a sockpuppet of Destroyeraa, and as Destroyeraa is an experienced editor, that would mean that HurricaneJanor here is not actually new to the project. 🌀 Weatherman27🏈 ( Chat| Edits| sandbox) 19:27, 2 December 2020 (UTC) reply

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44th edition of The Hurricane Herald!

Volume XLIV, Issue 44, December 1, 2020
←(Previous issues) 41 · 42 · 43 · 44 · 45


The Hurricane Herald: Happy Thanksgiving Edition!

The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from October 5–November 30, 2020. This edition's editors and authors are SMB99thx, Weatherman27, Chicdat, Hurricanehink, Cyclone Toby, Typhoon2013, and ChessEric. Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments


New articles since the last newsletter include:

New GA's include:

Featured Content

From October 5 to November 30, two featured articles were promoted:

From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from October 5–November 30, 2020 in chronological order.

Today's Featured Article/ List

There is currently one featured article candidate:

WikiProject To-Do



Here are some tasks you can do:

Current assessment table


Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 164 featured articles and 70 featured lists. There are 133 A-class articles, and 1,010 good articles. There are only 71 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 415 C-class articles, 788 start-class articles, and 182 stub-class articles, with 23 lists, and 9 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1000th GA in the project.

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Project Goals & Progress


The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.

Storms of the month over the last year
Month Storm
November 2020 Hurricane Iota
October 2020 Typhoon Goni (2020)
September 2020 Cyclone Ianos
August 2020 Hurricane Laura
July 2020 Hurricane Isaias
June 2020 Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020)
May 2020 Cyclone Amphan
April 2020 Cyclone Harold
March 2020 Cyclone Herold
February 2020 Cyclone Damien
January 2020 Cyclone Tino
December 2019 Cyclone Ambali
November 2019 Cyclone Bulbul
October 2019 Typhoon Hagibis

Storms of the month and other tropical activity for October and November


SotM for October: Typhoon Goni / Rolly
Typhoon Goni formed from east of The Philippines towards the end of October, just as Typhoon Molave ravaged the country. Taking in the plentiful favorable conditions, Goni, known as Rolly in The Philippines, explosively intensified into a Category-5 equivalent hurricane just three days after it became a tropical depression. An eyewall replacement cycle managed to curb its intensification. Goni finished the cycle a few hours before it made landfall, and explosively intensified again into winds of 195 mph (JTWC) and a pressure of 884 mbar. This allowed it to tie with typhoons Haiyan and Meranti as the strongest typhoon by wind speed. Goni made landfall at peak intensity, killing 25 people and causing US$368 million in damage.


SotM for November: Hurricane Iota
Hurricane Iota developed in the central Caribbean Sea in mid-November. Like Goni, it explosively intensified, strengthening 120 mph in 48 hours, and deepening 81 mbar in the same amount of time. Iota explosively strengthened late on November 15 and early on November 16, becoming a Category 5 hurricane at 15:00 UTC on the 16th. By the time Iota had achieved C5 intensity, three people were already dead in Colombia due to landslides. As the storm made landfall, and subsequently weakened and dissipated, adding to the destruction from Hurricane Eta. Iota killed at least 61 people.


  • Atlantic - Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota.

The active Atlantic hurricane season continued. In early October, Tropical Storm Gamma dissipated over the northern Yucatan and was absorbed by powerful Hurricane Delta, which was the season's third major hurricane. Delta weakened before hitting Quintana Roo, but restrengthened in the Gulf of Mexico, later hitting Louisiana as a low-end Category 2 hurricane in nearly the same location as Hurricane Laura in August. Delta killed six people and left US$4 billion in damage. A few days later, Hurricane Epsilon developed southeast of Bermuda, becoming a major hurricane and brushing the island to the east. Hurricane Zeta followed a similar path as Delta, striking Quintana Roo and later striking southeastern Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane; it killed 8 people and left U$3 billion in damage. At the end of the month, Hurricane Eta developed, becoming a strong Category 4 hurricane before striking Nicaragua. After killing hundreds of people in Central America, Eta reformed in the northwestern Caribbean. It made another landfall in Cuba, moved over the Florida Keys, and briefly became a hurricane again in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, before weakening and striking Cedar Key, Florida as a tropical storm. In early November, Tropical Storm Theta developed from a non-tropical low and moved across the eastern Atlantic.

Member of the month (edition) – Robloxsupersuperhappyface


Robloxsupersuperhappyface joined Wikipedia in July of this year, and has become the most prolific tropical cyclone editor relating to current events, as well as playing an enormous role in creation of newly formed tropical cyclones that eventually became destructive in many regions they are affected in ( Hurricane Sally to Gulf Coast of the United States, Typhoon Goni to the Philippines, and Hurricane Iota to Central America respectively - Also, both Goni and Iota are Storms of the Month!). Because of that reason, Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles are the one of the most viewed tropical cyclone articles in this year - as well as helped us on inviting prospective tropical cyclone editors to this project as they edited Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles, leading into why we have more than 100 members in this WikiProject leading to this issue. As the result of brilliant Robloxsupersuperhappyface's contributions, we want to give many, many thanks to Super for helping this WikiProject grow so much recently. Happy Thanksgiving!

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter - project membership is over 100 now!


More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically in order of which they joined.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

Let's talk about that - An opinion piece by Weatherman27


Before I start, I would like to link everyone to a new essay regarding Force Thirteen. Here it is: WP:F13. I recommend users (old and new) to read this to understand why we don't use Force Thirteen as a source, and why it isn't a reliable source. If you want to see what good reliable sources are, read this: WP:WPTC/AS Now, I will get to the main point of this opinion piece.


Recently, I have gotten more involved in talk pages, and sharing my ideas and/or my opinions on different issues or ideas that have come up, primarily on 2020 Atlantic hurricane season's talk page. As I have discussed these thoughts and ideas with other editors, I have noticed and experienced some things such as being personally attacked, which has led me to want to reiterated some key points here. Despite the fact that they are mentioned commonly at the top of talk pages, I want to bring these up as it is important to have a good base where people can properly chat and discuss topics in peace.

1. Treat others with respect This one can't be stressed enough. Especially on talk pages, it is a place where you and your peers communicate issues, opinions, or ideas to each-other. This means discussing topics in a kind and adult manner. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing in what somebody may say, but that does not mean that you have the right to put them down for not having similar views. It is simply the Golden Rule.

2. Assume Good faith Along with my first point, I feel this one needs to be brought up. People have different opinions, and that is all right, but just because you may not agree with it or what they say, does not mean that it was not out of good faith. They were most likely voicing what they think on the subject, and that is alright. This also goes for edits. Unless it is pretty obvious that a user as vandalized something, it is always good to assume good faith, as other people might not know the rules as well as a more experienced editor.

3. Avoid Personal attacks This is a very important subject that needs to be remembered not just on talk pages, but on all other parts of Wikipedia as well. On talk pages, discussions can get pretty tense and heated, and I admit that I have gotten into a few of these arguments as well. Despite this, it is never okay to attack someone. As a user who has gotten personally attacked before, I can definitely say that it does not feel good, and usually the person who made the attacked will get warned or blocked, so please be kind and accept what other people have to say, because you will get nowhere by being rude.

4. Come to a consensus (preferably a clear one) On talk pages, whenever there is a discussion regarding something important like the merging of an article, people need to decide what the outcome of something important on a talk page. For example, if there is say, a merge discussion for an article on a tropical cyclone, many people will give their input. Usually, different people will have different views on whether to merge or keep the article. Sometimes, the editor will close the discussion early, but this is usually for unrelated reasons, though it sometimes may be because the editor had a change of mind. Now, if there is support for say a merge of the article, then that will be the consensus and the discussion will be closed and the article merged. This can also happen on the opposite side, if an article is to be kept, the discussion will be closed and article kept. Simply put, it is important to discuss and come to a clear decision if there is a consensus involved, to avoid difficulty with the article or page in the future.

These are just a few examples of things that editors of the WPTC need to remember when using talk page discussions. There are plenty of other things not mentioned here that are just as important when it comes to using talk pages. I made this simply to help remind editors the key points when using the discussions, and I hope these were helpful to new users as well as veterans. We need to really get better at staying calm and keeping civil. I have noticed lots of hostility and arguing lately, as well as edit warring and disputes. We need to work this out. We are supposed to work together as WPTC editors, so please fix it. It is sad seeing so many editors getting reported or having to get blocked from this. Once again, keep discussions civil and have a good day. Signing off,

🌀 Weatherman27🏈

My experiences as a WikiProject Tropical cyclones member by SMB99thx


Hello again, people of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones! In here, I want to tell how my experiences with WikiProject Tropical Cyclones changed my views on WikiProjects, helped me out of trouble and to be able to regain the trust of many people in Wikipedia.


When I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones, it was the second WikiProject I have ever joined. The first WikiProject I have ever joined is WikiProject COVID-19, and the reason why I joined that project is to gain trust of people when I contributed to COVID-19 articles and as well as my fight against an IP editor which turned out to be the LTA named Bedriczwaleta (and has been active much more longer than I thought, since February of last year (!!!!)). I have the same thought process (and combined with my plans of editing old season articles, which is not done yet) when I first joined this WikiProject, but joining the WikiProject Tropical cyclones turned out to be something different. It led me to know what are the purposes of WikiProjects are and in turn led me to join many other WikiProjects since.

As such, what made me change my views on WikiProjects during my time as a WikiProject Tropical Cyclones?

First of all, I have seen that WikiProject Tropical cyclones members always actively work together to advance project goals, actively participating in discussions and give much-needed advice on new WikiProject Tropical cyclones members (including me). Second, WPTC really cares about our articles (and the assessments) as part of their project goals. 2018 FT project and Meteorological history of Hurricane Dorian (Four Award!) is a prime example of this. Third, we are actively welcoming the new members of this WikiProject and giving these members opportunity to succeed with us by i.e. giving out WikiLove (barnstars). Fourth, we, like WP COVID-19, actively fight against vandals and other LTAs e.g. Sidow........., UnderArmorKid, and Iphonehurricane95.

These kinds of activity led me to change my belief on what WikiProjects truly are. You could see this kind of activity on other good WikiProjects like WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors, which I just joined recently on 26 October 2020 as of this newsletter and WikiProject Articles of Creation, which I have interest on joining but I might not be able to.

Now, why WikiProject Tropical cyclones brought me out of trouble (and Chicdat, for that matter)?

WikiProject Tropical cyclones is generally a content-creating WikiProject. We really care about improving tropical cyclone coverage on Wikipedia. Members of this WikiProject generally encouraged to communicate and discuss (in Wikipedia, in Discord, or in IRC channel), and this is what helped me and Chicdat out from trouble since our discussions from what I have seen is not always administrative.

Before I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones (and when I was still new to WikiProject Tropical cyclones), I have been putting myself on trouble numerous times. I was an ANI regular, and as an ANI regular I detailed about my struggle to deal with the LTA Bedriczwaleta and I'm was also putting up IBAN proposals of User:Jadebenn and User:Moamem as well as User:U1Quattro and User:1292simon. While I have managed to get my proposal succeeded and finally got Bedriczwaleta back on track for a while (what I thought), in August 20 (as I was about to finalize my decision to enter my college I'm currently in right now) I got myself into serious trouble against IP range 185.66.252.0/23 (which is apparently good at programming - I'm not). I tried to get them blocked for PA (calling me a thief who has a black soul), but this is where when I realized that I had to attribute things I copied within Wikipedia and I had to apologize to the user. Since then, I did my best to attribute everything I had copied articles from ( Example) and I also realized that ANI is not for me (as I do not want to get into troubles by just being there), which led me to quitting ANI until November of this year when I decided to involve myself on Miggy72 dispute (now banned for sockpuppetry - Miggy72 could have been invited to WPTC if he stopped on insisting to create non-notable topics).

After that incident with the IP range 185.66.252.0/23, I have stated that I do not want to get myself into trouble as a presence in ANI. As such, I decided to focus on what I want to do, which is to continue my project of splitting season articles of the yesteryear and began to increasingly involve myself within the project - to look for help and giving the best help that I can do for this WikiProject. The activity from that September led me to become Member of the Month in the previous edition of this newsletter. It was a comeback that I needed, and I want to thank WikiProject Tropical cyclones (especially Hurricanehink) for getting me on this situation. Without their help, I'm not sure if I could be here on this day.

Now, for the final question – why this WikiProject helped me (and Chicdat) regain trust of many people in Wikipedia?

As I stated before, this WikiProject encourages discussion within other members of this WikiProject, which in turn encourages close involvement in all sides of this WikiProject. Because of this, some people are actually helping us learning policies in Wikipedia as the time goes on, rather than falling in into blocks. As such, with time, I have seen that some admins are open for Chicdat to become a rollbacker, while I got hold on several automated gadgets that was more useful. It appears that these tools are the reason why these people are one of the more trusted people in Wikipedia, which in turn helped me a lot at gaining trust. Someday in the future, I'm looking to become an admin by myself. But that's for the another day. For now, what I'm currently doing now is to work at my craft to eventually prepare for the day when I will seek for adminship in the years ahead.

In conclusion, you can see that this WikiProject helped me to regain my standing, alongside Chicdat, Nioni1234, Cristianpogi678, HurricaneTracker495 - and of course - CyclonicallyDeranged! If not for this WikiProject, I don't think they are will be here. Chicdat could have been CIR-blocked like Prahlad balaji and PythonSwarm, Nioni1234 and Cristianpogi678 ending up like Binbin0111 and Miggy72, HurricaneTracker495 would have a trouble establishing himself (or probably will never establish theirselves and stay as an IP) and CyclonicallyDeranged fully driven out from Wikipedia.

By the way, to me, both Binbin0111 and Miggy72 are young, but unfortunately they took on the wrong path (Binbin0111 was one of the earliest Force Thirteen insinuators - Binbin0111 is probably the impetus of Force Thirteen policy in this project (as it was made back in 2017), while Miggy72... we know what happened). I feel bad for them, especially Binbin0111. Had Binbin0111 is willing to learn and took steps forward to become productive young editor like Yellow Evan and two other resilient young editors I have mentioned did, Binbin0111 could have been one of the most valuable editors in this project, especially in matters related to Western Pacific basin, and in extension, Vietnam.

That's it. That's what I have to say. College is increasingly getting into my feelings right now, but I will do my best as I can coming into December. Sorry if I have a bad English. Thanks for reading this opinion piece!

Greetings from Indonesia,

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I already gave you a final warning about following WP:V and WP:OR last year, and a recent review of your edits shows that you've been consistent disregarding it and adding unsourced content.

You are blocked for 2 weeks. Next time will be indefinite. Get it together. Sergecross73 msg me 22:53, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Your edits continue to have sourcing issues no matter how many times you're warned. Your account is blocked, but you can still edit your talk page. You are blocked until you can satisfactorily explain the concepts of WP:V and WP:OR to myself or another admin. Part of it should also include explaining how you will stop making errors like this in the future, and, for example, explaining what was wrong with this edit. Sergecross73 msg me 13:52, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

WP:V means that other people can check the encyclopedic content for verifiability whilst WP:OR means original research is not allowed. I added U2 to the alternative dance article as all of their albums in the 1990s (sans 1995's Original Soundtracks 1 with Brian Eno) embraced that style, and all of them were big successes for the band (particularly Achtung Baby), so I thought it should be stated that they contributed to the style (as the rest of the article ignores the band's alt-dance contributions currently) alongside New Order, Fatboy Slim, and The Prodigy (who make up the Big 4 of alt-dance imo). I am sorry for not including a source for my edit, and will do better at including them from now on. Moline1 ( talk) 20:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Do you understand how to add sources? Why didn't you add a source to the alt dance article when you've been warned and blocked for this before? What source do you feel verifies the U2 addition to the alt dance article in the context of your addition? Sergecross73 msg me 22:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
After looking over Achtung Baby, Zooropa, and Pop, none of them are called alternative dance. Pop has the genre listed, but the article does not mention it itself, meaning that is unsourced, and should be removed (as should my claim on the alt-dance article). I apologize for not finding a source. My mind was in a not so good place when I made the edit. I'll be better about finding sources from here on out! Moline1 ( talk) 23:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not (yet) fully convinced that this editor truly understands the issue at hand. Since returning from the previous unsourced editing block (which was already their second), they also made this unsourced content addition. Apologies and promises help, but can only go so far. Moline1, in addition to the questions raised above, maybe, just maybe, describing specific types of edits you wish/plan to make and showing specific sources you'd use for such edits would be helpful for a convincing unblock request. But I'm not an admin, so this is merely a suggestion and not a guarantee. (Non-administrator comment) Left guide ( talk) 02:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I looked back at that edit, and went to the This Note's for You article, and found no source cited for the lawsuit by Harold Melvin, but I found a suitable source from Ultimate Classic Rock that can be used to source the claims on both pages. https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-young-this-notes-for-you/ Moline1 ( talk) 03:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
If you wish to make an unblock request, please refer to WP:Appealing a block and WP:Guide to appealing blocks, and then use the {{ unblock}} template to explain your case. (Non-administrator comment) Left guide ( talk) 06:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
What claims are you referring to though? That source doesn't appear to mention a lawsuit so I'm not following what you're using that source for... Sergecross73 msg me 13:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The lawsuit spiel is towards the bottom of the UCR source. Here is that text from it: "Then the group had to change the Bluenotes moniker after a lawsuit arrived from ‘70s R&B star Harold Melvin, who led his own band called the Blue Notes. This Note’s for You was reissued without their name. Not that it mattered much, because few people heard or bought the album."
Read More: How Neil Young's 'This Note's for You' Ended an Era of Stumbles | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-young-this-notes-for-you/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral Moline1 ( talk) 14:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Gotcha. I missed it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I've revised your block time from indef to 1 month. I'm happy that you're finally talking and trying to learn how to do this right, but disappointed that your most recent edits and subsequent block seem to come from a blatant disregard for policies you've been warned about at length prior. Please take the month to firm up your understand of WP:V and WP:OR. As far as I'm concerned, there won't be any further second chances after this, so you want to make sure you really get it moving forward. Sergecross73 msg me 15:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I will do that! Moline1 ( talk) 22:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Ban Appeal

{{ unblock|reason=I will stop adding unsourced content and make sure what I am adding is reliably sourced. ~~~~}} Moline1 ( talk) 14:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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