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I just wanted to make sure I thanked you for the ref desk misc comment affirming my position on state/federal crimes. The problem is that I am on opiates for GI problems, and could not tell whether I had "thunk" you for your edit. (I went to thank you, but feared I had already thunk you, and the feature doesn't say!) The wort part is that I get all the memory loss and none of the high out of these pseudopiods. Sucks. But here's real evidence of my thanks. lomotil. μηδείς ( talk) 19:22, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
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Jayron, are you one of the admins who places temporary edit blocks on the ref desks? If so, please look at the recent reversions of my edit at the language desk by an IP trying to make a point. He's even changing my wording. My comment is not disruptive. If you don't place temp blocks, please let me know whom I should approach. Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 01:00, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Jayron, I am one of the editors involved in the content dispute at the article Republic of East Florida. Thanks for your recent intervention, but your protection edit has established the contentious revision made by user EastFloridaHistorian, who by his own admission also uses different IP addresses to make his edits.
You get an idea of EastFloridaHistorian's approach to editing the article in the edit summary he made with his first addition of the disputed infobox: " Added a country box. I am starting to think that the removal of my edits is RACIST! He is showing clear bias against Floridians and our history!"). The edit was first reverted by user Jeff in CA with this edit. EFH then left a note on the article's talk page, but had no consensus to justify re-adding the disputed infobox. Consequently I reverted his re-addition, and this continued through another cycle of adding and reverting before you intervened.
I believe that consensus regarding the addition should be reached by concerned editors, but your protection edit has unfortunately established EFH's contentious infobox on the article page. I don't think there is any way to collaborate productively with this editor, who wraps his comments on the article's talk page in religiosity, and is on a mission to correct what he considers "discrimination" against "Native Floridians", whom he arbitrarily defines as members of, or the descendants of, the groups of rebels who invaded Spanish Florida in the so-called "Patriot War", or as he puts it, "those born in the Native Republic and their descendants".
His last comment on the talk page at this point is "Carlstak, I feel that I have admonished you enough. Your chance has been given. Let no one say that you were not offered one. I forgive you. From all your false accusations and put-downs. I hope you can see humanity in all humans. May God bless you, Carlstak. May the Light of St. Mary help and guide you. I will no longer edit this page I have created. People are free to see my original edits if they so choose. Carlstak, I hope you have a good life and serve Christ well.
He says he will no longer edit the page, which I hope is true, since how in the world can other editors who don't share his viewpoint collaborate with someone who has such an attitude? Carlstak ( talk) 16:58, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
After the consensus agreed to maintain "status quo" toward WP:NFC and to declare WP:NFCC adequate, i.e. consensus deems waiting period unnecessary, I wonder whether you can undelete this non-free content and allow me to reinsert it to Jill Saward. How does BBC have commercial interests when it's funded by the government and a public service broadcaster? Also, I have waited for a response from her husband Grant for three weeks without one reply. -- George Ho ( talk) 08:33, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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I had two major problems:
The entities are fully incorporated CITIES, not communities. There were many "towns" and "communities" that were subsumed by Unigov. The four cities remained fully autonomous and independent from Indianapolis and each city has separate fire departments, police departments, city governments, etc. and, in fact, have differing SALES TAX RATES than Indianapolis. Those facts are extremely important distinctions. Given that these CITIES remain in the county, the certain countywide services remained. For instance, the Marion County Sheriff still has jurisdiction within the Cities as it always had. Unigov did not necessarily provide additional countywide services to those cities, rather it documented what services would continue and provided clear distinctions and limits which was important to those cities. Living in the county at the time, this was a huge change. Smaller cities and towns were absorbed into Indianapolis such as Nora, Broad Ripple, Rocky Ripple and New Augusta to name a few off the top of my head - there were many more. For example, Broad Ripple was an incorporated city but nowhere the size or clout of the four cities that remained independent. There was quite a bit of controversy with regard to those smaller cities, towns and numerous unincorporated communities. The distinction, as I said, is huge.
This was a huge point of contention when Unigov was being crafted and passed. To this day, those cities remain fully independent - NOT PARTIALLY INTEGRATED. Initially, only the Marion County Sheriff's department enjoyed reciprocity with those 4 cities (as they had before Univgov). As the Indianapolis Police force expanded into beyond the prior city limits into the county, full reciprocity became a fact. As this happened, except for some County specific duties (primarily running the Marion County Jail and certain activities related to the County Courts), the Marion County Sheriff's department has no real day-to-day law enforcement presence in Indianapolis.
This was an act passed by the State Legislature and enforced on the City/County by the State as compared to many subsequent City/County mergers (Detroit, for instance) that were done at a County & City level.
I think the extra language adds specifics that are very important distinctions and I could make the verbiage somewhat shorter but you have missed the entire point of the verbiage. At the time, Unigov was unique and became a model for other city/county mergers nationwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondobyte ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'm hoping to solicit your feedback regarding a handout Wiki Ed is developing for students who want to work on articles about films: User:Ryan (Wiki Ed)/Films. It will be a print guide that supplements other resources and materials for student editors, like the interactive training and brochures that address broader aspects of editing, like etiquette, NPOV, citing sources, working in sandboxes, using the talk page, etc. This guide focuses only on aspects of editing required for contributing to articles about films assigned in classroom settings. We're hoping to get some feedback from the community by the end of Monday, so we can send it off to the printer before the end of the month. I realize that's not a lot of time so no worries if you don't get to it. There's one other draft we're looking for feedback on, for editing articles about books, if that's also/more of interest. -- Ryan (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:24, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Earlier today, a Wikipedia editor contacted me, saying that there has been a Neo-Nazi troll using the wifi network at my workplace and showed me the abuse page. It turns out that the troll happens to be one of my co-workers. I've reported him to my boss, and my boss told him that if he ever engages in his abuse at Wikipedia ever again, he's fired. My coworker has promised to stop his abuse, so if he doesn't show up in the next few days, you can delete the page. Waiter43 ( talk) 05:19, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
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I am not sure whether this editor's edits are disruptive.
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:2.133.142.53. -- Marvellous Spider-Man 04:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Okay, if that's the way you want it: the test edits you made on ANY and Northeast blackout of 2003 were made by you only to get autoconfirmed, and your next edit after that, made after waiting the required few days, was vandalism on a semiprotected article. And you no doubt intend to vandalise more articles, since that's the only reason why anyone would do what you have been doing. So consider this a formal warning: continued vandalism will get you blocked as a "vandalism-only account"
Meh. I consider that plenty warning enough. Templates aren't the standard; good faith notification of the incoming ban hammer is the standard, and apparently actively making nonsense edits to get autoconfirmed smells like feet besides. TimothyJosephWood 21:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Was there really a concensus to post it at WP:ITN/C? Just curious because you gave no explanation, just "Posted." -- Pudeo ( talk) 13:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
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First, Jayron32, let me thank you for unblocking my talkpage. There is no mandate anywhere that even my talkpage should be blocked to me. Anyone can look at the talkpage and see I am scrupulously polite and constructive. Thyrduulf had no authority to unilaterally overturn your administrative action there. Even if individual arbs were so empowered, he's not one. He's a former one. Would you mind bringing up my case at WP:AN/ANI? I've reflected on this, and it's the real administrative power center at Wikipedia. You'll have to write a little bit of summary yourself lest you be accused of "proxying for a banned editor." I can give you some bullet points to help you appraise me, though: 1) I was perma-blocked in 2012 without warning by Timotheus Canens for allegedly socking. I have never socked Wikipedia. Colton Cosmic is my second account. I abandoned my first account for privacy reasons. There were no administrative actions of any sort, not even a warning, on my first account. 2) Jimbo Wales agreed to unblock me if I confided him my previous account. I did, and he did not. We exchanged several emails at the time. He was eager to find out my previous account, and I was a bit starstruck. After I told him, I guess he looked at it for five minutes. He then proceeded to ignore me. 3) I want to stay away from criticism of the administrative sector if you comment at WP:AN/ANI on my behalf, but the fact is I have attracted many administrative hounders. My talkpage is watchlisted by like 70 administrative participants. I am mainly a content editor, but it's not other content editors watchlisting me. If you give notice at my talkpage, my hounders will swarm at WP:AN/ANI, but I am not telling you not to do it. 4) The idea that I'm supposed to serve out a year's detention and then I can get a fair hearing is completely bogus. The people that write such things will never support my reinstatement. 5) If reinstated I promise to abide by all of Wikipedia's policies to the best of my ability. If allowed to speak at the WP:AN/ANI discussion (how can such a thing be legitimate if I am not?), I'll respond politely until someone attempts to make a punching bag of me, at which point I'll call for an impartial administrator to handle it. Colton Cosmic
I didn't "misread" you. I thought you might or might not help. My contributions to Wikipedia are better than yours. We both are familiar with North Carolina and started around the same time but your early edits clerically catalog roads. I originally wrote important seven or eight important articles for the first time, articles that ended up as the foremost result in websearchs. Go jump in a lake with your *blocking* me and resetting my "ban clock." You are just another uncreative cog in a foul system. I hope some day you also find yourself in the position of asking for help, but the difference between you and me is I hope you get it. Delete this message and block again, it's true that now I read you correctly. Colton Cosmic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.195.215.110 ( talk) 20:31, 26 June 2017 (UTC) |
May I suggest that cryptic abbreviations such as "DNFT" are not the best thing to put in a hat summary, and that "see talk" would be better linked to the relevant section?
(Don't feel obliged to respond to this.) -- 76.71.5.114 ( talk) 07:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Good evening! Did you click the youtube link? There is no "posh English gentleman" voice. It's just a song video. Seems like spam to me.-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 02:28, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
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That IP 50... is getting more and more pushy IMO. If not trolling, definitely WP:POINTY. I am (as you may recall) a champion of AGF, but damn... I am happy to mostly ignore and not respond at all for now but they seem to have a subtle earnest/sea lion quality that draws a lot of our users in. I guess that's not a problem if everyone involved is having fun? Feel free to delete this if you think it may be feeding, also feel free to use my email or ignore this post at your discretion :) SemanticMantis ( talk) 03:42, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for weighing in on the ACTRIAL talk page. It's helpful to know that my questions and concerns aren't as lunatic as other people are acting. -- The Cunctator ( talk) 15:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I am totally ignorant to what these are ... but I'm sending them to you anyway simply because I appreciated the conversation we had regarding the word usage. Thanks. Maineartists ( talk) 14:59, 9 August 2017 (UTC) |
The Picture of the Day for today and yesterday has a protected version and an unprotected version, explained here. When editing the protected version, please make the same edit to the unprotected version. Otherwise, your edit may be lost when an additional edit is made and the unprotected version is copied to the protected version (which is a good argument against having two versions and I just gave Mjroots the same explanation, but it's been that way for years). I did it for you. Art LaPella ( talk) 14:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
You participated at this RfC; the proposal has changed a bit. Just providing you notice of that. Jytdog ( talk) 17:33, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
...this, [1] - if you don't care, then I don't care. I suspect he'll be going back into his French underground sometime soon anyway. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
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I've reported this editor to WP:ANI as recommended. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 22:18, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32, you recently made a move change from Interstate 495 (North Carolina) to Interstate 87 (North Carolina); though this was planned, it is to the wrong location. The move should have been to Interstate 87 in North Carolina, which conforms to wiki standard for primary interstate routes. Could you be kind to make another move to the correct location and also move the Talk page of I-495 onto I-87 page as well? I would appreciate that greatly. Thank you. -- WashuOtaku ( talk) 21:32, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
in my Ritchie Valens CD has René Hall playing the, "Danelectro six string bass." Else where it is described as the "Danelectro Six String Bass". What's your source for the "baritone guitar?" Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 17:39, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Jayron32. Thanks for closing that discussion, although I did think your edit summary was perhaps a little curt. I thought Gerda asked some pertinent questions there that remained largely unanswered. It's unfortunate that the discussion proved to be somewhat less productive than one might have hoped. I still maintain that, with limited RD slots available and no flexibility in that area, sometimes the success of nominations will be adversely affected by random factors. This is a shame as the front page ends up looking, in my view, "less encyclopedic" than it might. I really don't know what the answer is. I guess we can't really get round the fact that the Grim Reaper is in itself a bit random, no matter what the wonderful wiki process for RD might be? Thanks for your time. Martinevans123 ( talk) 12:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
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Thank you very much for all of your hard work at the Reference Desk and elsewhere, Jayron32! Futurist110 ( talk) 02:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC) |
I saw that you protected the Chris Cornell article for six months and only admins will be able to edit the article until there. I suggest you to take a look at this user "Sickle And Hammer" who started this edit warring months ago and kept doing it even after being warned and blocked. This person has been doing the same in other articles but somehow they are still allowed to keep trolling while other editors won't be allowed to edit the article and add useful info with reliable sources. Instead of protecting the article for six months, it would have been easier to ban the editor and its IP. Just a suggestion.
Zoolver ( talk) 07:58, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Would you please be so kind to restore my edit and unblock my IP, thanks. -- 82.69.159.206 ( talk) 18:07, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
In regards to your comment here, I think that you are being too harsh towards me: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous. Indeed, while adults are the focus of my sexual attraction (in other words, I am absolutely no different from the ordinary person in regards to this), I would like to point out that expecting me to forget every single moment during my childhood when girls in my class or at my school wore short shorts and/or short skirts is asking for too much. For goodness sake, I have absolutely no interest in children; however, that doesn't erase my own memories back from when I myself was a child!
Also, I am sorry if I asked that question in a clumsy way; however, that shouldn't be an excuse for jumping at me! Indeed, am I a horrible person for sexualizing girls in my class and/or at my school back when I myself was a little kid? Futurist110 ( talk) 02:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
I've been away from AIV for a long while. Can we remove the stale, insufficiently warned reports? Dlohcierekim ( talk) 03:37, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
You closed it before I could point out that the story had already dropped out of the headlines. Seriously though, thanks for restoring order. -- CosmicAdventure ( talk) 10:39, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hey Jayron! Technically speaking, was User:Spmt6 really block evasion? Per the hat on the original blocked username, one option is to simply choose a new username (the other being to request a change in username). While the "Sp" does echo the original username, their question does involve SPMT. Cheers! -- ToE 14:49, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32, Can you please weigh in on the discussion you began regarding overlapping articles HERE? Regards-- Eagledj ( talk) 17:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Jayron32:
Sorry to tell you this is not reasonable, you can't just block update to a page just because you don't like the updates. I know this project very well and the reason why we wants to update the page that this page has wrong details and that confirmed 100%. we are not trying to promote or advertise but we just doesn't accept to have wrong information on the web about our master-plan. we here trying to providing you with the correct data for your site but watch your behavior!!, as you must be thankful instead of blocking us. I hope that you and your team look into this reasonably and allow us to provide the right data to your site.— Preceding unsigned comment added by HussainSabaa ( talk • contribs)
@ Jayron32:
with whom should I have that talk. or should I open a dispute. Bahrain Financial Harbour is the biggest & tallest building in Bahrain with aprrox. 100,000 Sqm or 1 million sq.feet lease-able area
Hi Jayron32, Thanks for facilitating the redirect from Lap slide guitar to Slide guitar, and also for your recent edit. I'd welcome any additional suggestions to improve the article if you have time. Regards-- Eagledj ( talk) 21:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. So, I wanted to discuss with you first, as to avoid any "wheel-warring", but I'm a little concerned about your protection for the Chris Cornell page. 6 months is an extremely long-time for full-protection like this, especially in this situation, where there seems to be little in the way of active discussion towards any sort of dispute or anything on the talk page either. I'm sure you had good reason to protect the page, I don't doubt that, but the length seems excessive.
I think it should be pared way back. If it helps, 1990s-to-present-modern-rock is one of my main subject areas on Wikipedia, so I can keep an eye on the article, and re-implement shorter bits of protection as needed as well.
Let me know your thoughts. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 17:48, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Jayron. Let me preface this by saying I've never used the ref desk, primarily because it appears very unprofessional.
I voted in the RfC to shut it down but replace it. IMO, there are two problems that need to be addressed.
First, is the one that started this RfC, the drama. The solution to that is so simple...just can the forum format. Go to a mail list format and the trolls and drama whores no longer get to stoke their egos in public view.
Second, being a library was never in Jimbo's remit for what Wikipedia should be. Having a research department is a good thing, but it should be strictly limited to research towards the end of improving the encyclopedia.
I don't generally participate in big hairy RfC like this one because I don't have time to wade through it all. That's why I'm pointing out my suggestion to you. It appears you have taken the time and would know if my suggestion could gain traction. I think it is a good suggestion that could address nearly everyone's issues. Additionally, as a more senior Wikipedian than I, and the holder of a slightly more bully pulpit than I due to your mop duties, you are in a better position to both analyze and advocate than I. My !vote is here. Thanks for your time John from Idegon ( talk) 20:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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There was a time when you just would have left them with the Google search results of 10,000 hits, and told them to start reading. Actually explaining it is much better. Thank you. StuRat ( talk) 23:52, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I've mentioned you as part of my testimony, here. μηδείς ( talk) 03:25, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
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I just wanted to make sure I thanked you for the ref desk misc comment affirming my position on state/federal crimes. The problem is that I am on opiates for GI problems, and could not tell whether I had "thunk" you for your edit. (I went to thank you, but feared I had already thunk you, and the feature doesn't say!) The wort part is that I get all the memory loss and none of the high out of these pseudopiods. Sucks. But here's real evidence of my thanks. lomotil. μηδείς ( talk) 19:22, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
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Jayron, are you one of the admins who places temporary edit blocks on the ref desks? If so, please look at the recent reversions of my edit at the language desk by an IP trying to make a point. He's even changing my wording. My comment is not disruptive. If you don't place temp blocks, please let me know whom I should approach. Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 01:00, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Jayron, I am one of the editors involved in the content dispute at the article Republic of East Florida. Thanks for your recent intervention, but your protection edit has established the contentious revision made by user EastFloridaHistorian, who by his own admission also uses different IP addresses to make his edits.
You get an idea of EastFloridaHistorian's approach to editing the article in the edit summary he made with his first addition of the disputed infobox: " Added a country box. I am starting to think that the removal of my edits is RACIST! He is showing clear bias against Floridians and our history!"). The edit was first reverted by user Jeff in CA with this edit. EFH then left a note on the article's talk page, but had no consensus to justify re-adding the disputed infobox. Consequently I reverted his re-addition, and this continued through another cycle of adding and reverting before you intervened.
I believe that consensus regarding the addition should be reached by concerned editors, but your protection edit has unfortunately established EFH's contentious infobox on the article page. I don't think there is any way to collaborate productively with this editor, who wraps his comments on the article's talk page in religiosity, and is on a mission to correct what he considers "discrimination" against "Native Floridians", whom he arbitrarily defines as members of, or the descendants of, the groups of rebels who invaded Spanish Florida in the so-called "Patriot War", or as he puts it, "those born in the Native Republic and their descendants".
His last comment on the talk page at this point is "Carlstak, I feel that I have admonished you enough. Your chance has been given. Let no one say that you were not offered one. I forgive you. From all your false accusations and put-downs. I hope you can see humanity in all humans. May God bless you, Carlstak. May the Light of St. Mary help and guide you. I will no longer edit this page I have created. People are free to see my original edits if they so choose. Carlstak, I hope you have a good life and serve Christ well.
He says he will no longer edit the page, which I hope is true, since how in the world can other editors who don't share his viewpoint collaborate with someone who has such an attitude? Carlstak ( talk) 16:58, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
After the consensus agreed to maintain "status quo" toward WP:NFC and to declare WP:NFCC adequate, i.e. consensus deems waiting period unnecessary, I wonder whether you can undelete this non-free content and allow me to reinsert it to Jill Saward. How does BBC have commercial interests when it's funded by the government and a public service broadcaster? Also, I have waited for a response from her husband Grant for three weeks without one reply. -- George Ho ( talk) 08:33, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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I had two major problems:
The entities are fully incorporated CITIES, not communities. There were many "towns" and "communities" that were subsumed by Unigov. The four cities remained fully autonomous and independent from Indianapolis and each city has separate fire departments, police departments, city governments, etc. and, in fact, have differing SALES TAX RATES than Indianapolis. Those facts are extremely important distinctions. Given that these CITIES remain in the county, the certain countywide services remained. For instance, the Marion County Sheriff still has jurisdiction within the Cities as it always had. Unigov did not necessarily provide additional countywide services to those cities, rather it documented what services would continue and provided clear distinctions and limits which was important to those cities. Living in the county at the time, this was a huge change. Smaller cities and towns were absorbed into Indianapolis such as Nora, Broad Ripple, Rocky Ripple and New Augusta to name a few off the top of my head - there were many more. For example, Broad Ripple was an incorporated city but nowhere the size or clout of the four cities that remained independent. There was quite a bit of controversy with regard to those smaller cities, towns and numerous unincorporated communities. The distinction, as I said, is huge.
This was a huge point of contention when Unigov was being crafted and passed. To this day, those cities remain fully independent - NOT PARTIALLY INTEGRATED. Initially, only the Marion County Sheriff's department enjoyed reciprocity with those 4 cities (as they had before Univgov). As the Indianapolis Police force expanded into beyond the prior city limits into the county, full reciprocity became a fact. As this happened, except for some County specific duties (primarily running the Marion County Jail and certain activities related to the County Courts), the Marion County Sheriff's department has no real day-to-day law enforcement presence in Indianapolis.
This was an act passed by the State Legislature and enforced on the City/County by the State as compared to many subsequent City/County mergers (Detroit, for instance) that were done at a County & City level.
I think the extra language adds specifics that are very important distinctions and I could make the verbiage somewhat shorter but you have missed the entire point of the verbiage. At the time, Unigov was unique and became a model for other city/county mergers nationwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondobyte ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'm hoping to solicit your feedback regarding a handout Wiki Ed is developing for students who want to work on articles about films: User:Ryan (Wiki Ed)/Films. It will be a print guide that supplements other resources and materials for student editors, like the interactive training and brochures that address broader aspects of editing, like etiquette, NPOV, citing sources, working in sandboxes, using the talk page, etc. This guide focuses only on aspects of editing required for contributing to articles about films assigned in classroom settings. We're hoping to get some feedback from the community by the end of Monday, so we can send it off to the printer before the end of the month. I realize that's not a lot of time so no worries if you don't get to it. There's one other draft we're looking for feedback on, for editing articles about books, if that's also/more of interest. -- Ryan (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:24, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Earlier today, a Wikipedia editor contacted me, saying that there has been a Neo-Nazi troll using the wifi network at my workplace and showed me the abuse page. It turns out that the troll happens to be one of my co-workers. I've reported him to my boss, and my boss told him that if he ever engages in his abuse at Wikipedia ever again, he's fired. My coworker has promised to stop his abuse, so if he doesn't show up in the next few days, you can delete the page. Waiter43 ( talk) 05:19, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
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I've yanked the Donald Trump picture from the main page. This image is not public domain or freely licensed. It currently has no licensing tag on Commons, and an OTRS agent is working on verifying the image is available freely. Without going into detail (due to confidentiality agreement), current signs point to the fact that this image is non-free. All images on the main page must be public domain or available under a free license. ~ Rob13 Talk 02:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
I am not sure whether this editor's edits are disruptive.
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:2.133.142.53. -- Marvellous Spider-Man 04:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Okay, if that's the way you want it: the test edits you made on ANY and Northeast blackout of 2003 were made by you only to get autoconfirmed, and your next edit after that, made after waiting the required few days, was vandalism on a semiprotected article. And you no doubt intend to vandalise more articles, since that's the only reason why anyone would do what you have been doing. So consider this a formal warning: continued vandalism will get you blocked as a "vandalism-only account"
Meh. I consider that plenty warning enough. Templates aren't the standard; good faith notification of the incoming ban hammer is the standard, and apparently actively making nonsense edits to get autoconfirmed smells like feet besides. TimothyJosephWood 21:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Was there really a concensus to post it at WP:ITN/C? Just curious because you gave no explanation, just "Posted." -- Pudeo ( talk) 13:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Consider yourself notified. Only in death does duty end ( talk) 18:42, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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First, Jayron32, let me thank you for unblocking my talkpage. There is no mandate anywhere that even my talkpage should be blocked to me. Anyone can look at the talkpage and see I am scrupulously polite and constructive. Thyrduulf had no authority to unilaterally overturn your administrative action there. Even if individual arbs were so empowered, he's not one. He's a former one. Would you mind bringing up my case at WP:AN/ANI? I've reflected on this, and it's the real administrative power center at Wikipedia. You'll have to write a little bit of summary yourself lest you be accused of "proxying for a banned editor." I can give you some bullet points to help you appraise me, though: 1) I was perma-blocked in 2012 without warning by Timotheus Canens for allegedly socking. I have never socked Wikipedia. Colton Cosmic is my second account. I abandoned my first account for privacy reasons. There were no administrative actions of any sort, not even a warning, on my first account. 2) Jimbo Wales agreed to unblock me if I confided him my previous account. I did, and he did not. We exchanged several emails at the time. He was eager to find out my previous account, and I was a bit starstruck. After I told him, I guess he looked at it for five minutes. He then proceeded to ignore me. 3) I want to stay away from criticism of the administrative sector if you comment at WP:AN/ANI on my behalf, but the fact is I have attracted many administrative hounders. My talkpage is watchlisted by like 70 administrative participants. I am mainly a content editor, but it's not other content editors watchlisting me. If you give notice at my talkpage, my hounders will swarm at WP:AN/ANI, but I am not telling you not to do it. 4) The idea that I'm supposed to serve out a year's detention and then I can get a fair hearing is completely bogus. The people that write such things will never support my reinstatement. 5) If reinstated I promise to abide by all of Wikipedia's policies to the best of my ability. If allowed to speak at the WP:AN/ANI discussion (how can such a thing be legitimate if I am not?), I'll respond politely until someone attempts to make a punching bag of me, at which point I'll call for an impartial administrator to handle it. Colton Cosmic
I didn't "misread" you. I thought you might or might not help. My contributions to Wikipedia are better than yours. We both are familiar with North Carolina and started around the same time but your early edits clerically catalog roads. I originally wrote important seven or eight important articles for the first time, articles that ended up as the foremost result in websearchs. Go jump in a lake with your *blocking* me and resetting my "ban clock." You are just another uncreative cog in a foul system. I hope some day you also find yourself in the position of asking for help, but the difference between you and me is I hope you get it. Delete this message and block again, it's true that now I read you correctly. Colton Cosmic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.195.215.110 ( talk) 20:31, 26 June 2017 (UTC) |
May I suggest that cryptic abbreviations such as "DNFT" are not the best thing to put in a hat summary, and that "see talk" would be better linked to the relevant section?
(Don't feel obliged to respond to this.) -- 76.71.5.114 ( talk) 07:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Good evening! Did you click the youtube link? There is no "posh English gentleman" voice. It's just a song video. Seems like spam to me.-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 02:28, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
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?fuzzy=1
to the URL, as with
Special:Undelete?fuzzy=1. Currently the search only finds pages that exactly match the search term.Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:58, 24 July 2017 (UTC) |
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That IP 50... is getting more and more pushy IMO. If not trolling, definitely WP:POINTY. I am (as you may recall) a champion of AGF, but damn... I am happy to mostly ignore and not respond at all for now but they seem to have a subtle earnest/sea lion quality that draws a lot of our users in. I guess that's not a problem if everyone involved is having fun? Feel free to delete this if you think it may be feeding, also feel free to use my email or ignore this post at your discretion :) SemanticMantis ( talk) 03:42, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for weighing in on the ACTRIAL talk page. It's helpful to know that my questions and concerns aren't as lunatic as other people are acting. -- The Cunctator ( talk) 15:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I am totally ignorant to what these are ... but I'm sending them to you anyway simply because I appreciated the conversation we had regarding the word usage. Thanks. Maineartists ( talk) 14:59, 9 August 2017 (UTC) |
The Picture of the Day for today and yesterday has a protected version and an unprotected version, explained here. When editing the protected version, please make the same edit to the unprotected version. Otherwise, your edit may be lost when an additional edit is made and the unprotected version is copied to the protected version (which is a good argument against having two versions and I just gave Mjroots the same explanation, but it's been that way for years). I did it for you. Art LaPella ( talk) 14:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
You participated at this RfC; the proposal has changed a bit. Just providing you notice of that. Jytdog ( talk) 17:33, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
...this, [1] - if you don't care, then I don't care. I suspect he'll be going back into his French underground sometime soon anyway. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
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I've reported this editor to WP:ANI as recommended. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 22:18, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32, you recently made a move change from Interstate 495 (North Carolina) to Interstate 87 (North Carolina); though this was planned, it is to the wrong location. The move should have been to Interstate 87 in North Carolina, which conforms to wiki standard for primary interstate routes. Could you be kind to make another move to the correct location and also move the Talk page of I-495 onto I-87 page as well? I would appreciate that greatly. Thank you. -- WashuOtaku ( talk) 21:32, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
in my Ritchie Valens CD has René Hall playing the, "Danelectro six string bass." Else where it is described as the "Danelectro Six String Bass". What's your source for the "baritone guitar?" Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 17:39, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Jayron32. Thanks for closing that discussion, although I did think your edit summary was perhaps a little curt. I thought Gerda asked some pertinent questions there that remained largely unanswered. It's unfortunate that the discussion proved to be somewhat less productive than one might have hoped. I still maintain that, with limited RD slots available and no flexibility in that area, sometimes the success of nominations will be adversely affected by random factors. This is a shame as the front page ends up looking, in my view, "less encyclopedic" than it might. I really don't know what the answer is. I guess we can't really get round the fact that the Grim Reaper is in itself a bit random, no matter what the wonderful wiki process for RD might be? Thanks for your time. Martinevans123 ( talk) 12:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
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Thank you very much for all of your hard work at the Reference Desk and elsewhere, Jayron32! Futurist110 ( talk) 02:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC) |
I saw that you protected the Chris Cornell article for six months and only admins will be able to edit the article until there. I suggest you to take a look at this user "Sickle And Hammer" who started this edit warring months ago and kept doing it even after being warned and blocked. This person has been doing the same in other articles but somehow they are still allowed to keep trolling while other editors won't be allowed to edit the article and add useful info with reliable sources. Instead of protecting the article for six months, it would have been easier to ban the editor and its IP. Just a suggestion.
Zoolver ( talk) 07:58, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Would you please be so kind to restore my edit and unblock my IP, thanks. -- 82.69.159.206 ( talk) 18:07, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
In regards to your comment here, I think that you are being too harsh towards me: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous. Indeed, while adults are the focus of my sexual attraction (in other words, I am absolutely no different from the ordinary person in regards to this), I would like to point out that expecting me to forget every single moment during my childhood when girls in my class or at my school wore short shorts and/or short skirts is asking for too much. For goodness sake, I have absolutely no interest in children; however, that doesn't erase my own memories back from when I myself was a child!
Also, I am sorry if I asked that question in a clumsy way; however, that shouldn't be an excuse for jumping at me! Indeed, am I a horrible person for sexualizing girls in my class and/or at my school back when I myself was a little kid? Futurist110 ( talk) 02:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
I've been away from AIV for a long while. Can we remove the stale, insufficiently warned reports? Dlohcierekim ( talk) 03:37, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
You closed it before I could point out that the story had already dropped out of the headlines. Seriously though, thanks for restoring order. -- CosmicAdventure ( talk) 10:39, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hey Jayron! Technically speaking, was User:Spmt6 really block evasion? Per the hat on the original blocked username, one option is to simply choose a new username (the other being to request a change in username). While the "Sp" does echo the original username, their question does involve SPMT. Cheers! -- ToE 14:49, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32, Can you please weigh in on the discussion you began regarding overlapping articles HERE? Regards-- Eagledj ( talk) 17:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Jayron32:
Sorry to tell you this is not reasonable, you can't just block update to a page just because you don't like the updates. I know this project very well and the reason why we wants to update the page that this page has wrong details and that confirmed 100%. we are not trying to promote or advertise but we just doesn't accept to have wrong information on the web about our master-plan. we here trying to providing you with the correct data for your site but watch your behavior!!, as you must be thankful instead of blocking us. I hope that you and your team look into this reasonably and allow us to provide the right data to your site.— Preceding unsigned comment added by HussainSabaa ( talk • contribs)
@ Jayron32:
with whom should I have that talk. or should I open a dispute. Bahrain Financial Harbour is the biggest & tallest building in Bahrain with aprrox. 100,000 Sqm or 1 million sq.feet lease-able area
Hi Jayron32, Thanks for facilitating the redirect from Lap slide guitar to Slide guitar, and also for your recent edit. I'd welcome any additional suggestions to improve the article if you have time. Regards-- Eagledj ( talk) 21:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. So, I wanted to discuss with you first, as to avoid any "wheel-warring", but I'm a little concerned about your protection for the Chris Cornell page. 6 months is an extremely long-time for full-protection like this, especially in this situation, where there seems to be little in the way of active discussion towards any sort of dispute or anything on the talk page either. I'm sure you had good reason to protect the page, I don't doubt that, but the length seems excessive.
I think it should be pared way back. If it helps, 1990s-to-present-modern-rock is one of my main subject areas on Wikipedia, so I can keep an eye on the article, and re-implement shorter bits of protection as needed as well.
Let me know your thoughts. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 17:48, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Jayron. Let me preface this by saying I've never used the ref desk, primarily because it appears very unprofessional.
I voted in the RfC to shut it down but replace it. IMO, there are two problems that need to be addressed.
First, is the one that started this RfC, the drama. The solution to that is so simple...just can the forum format. Go to a mail list format and the trolls and drama whores no longer get to stoke their egos in public view.
Second, being a library was never in Jimbo's remit for what Wikipedia should be. Having a research department is a good thing, but it should be strictly limited to research towards the end of improving the encyclopedia.
I don't generally participate in big hairy RfC like this one because I don't have time to wade through it all. That's why I'm pointing out my suggestion to you. It appears you have taken the time and would know if my suggestion could gain traction. I think it is a good suggestion that could address nearly everyone's issues. Additionally, as a more senior Wikipedian than I, and the holder of a slightly more bully pulpit than I due to your mop duties, you are in a better position to both analyze and advocate than I. My !vote is here. Thanks for your time John from Idegon ( talk) 20:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Miscellaneous#Freddie_Mercury_and_his_mic
There was a time when you just would have left them with the Google search results of 10,000 hits, and told them to start reading. Actually explaining it is much better. Thank you. StuRat ( talk) 23:52, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I've mentioned you as part of my testimony, here. μηδείς ( talk) 03:25, 31 October 2017 (UTC)