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See Dweller's points about players at bottom of his section at FAC page. I am in two minds but don't have the sources (i.e. generally try to rduce listiness wherever possible but sometimes unavoidable) Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 20:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Please do not remove the word "Guru" from the article. It is a prefix conferred one one's teachers, and I have seen it in articles about other Indian Classical Artists. There are certain conventions that exist within the field the subject of the article belongs to, and those ought to be respected. Wikipedia has its rules, yes, but I am sure none of those were intended to be disrespectful to the very subjects that form the body of the encyclopaedia. About language that puffs the subject up, tell me which portions exactly, and I'll modify them. Many thanks. Icharp ( talk) 15:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Let me explain to you the name of Sichuan. Firstly I translate the corresponding chapter in Chinese article for you, I rewrite the chapter when I found it is wrong. Central government set Jiannan Xichuan Jiedushi(剑南西川节度使) and Jiannan Dongchuan Jiedushi(剑南东川节度使) in the early Tang Dynasty. (Jiannan is a Circuit (Dao) named Jiannan Dao( 剑南道) in Tang dynasty. And there is no reference to explain what means Xichuan or Dongchuan, I can't guess the meaning subjectively). The two Jiedushi were abbreviated as Xichuan and Dongchuan, "Chuan" means flat plain. [1]: 321 [2] In Northern Song Dynasty, the central government set Xichuan Circuit (西川路) in 970 and split out Xiaxi Circuit (峡西路) in 971, and merge these two Circuits to one Circuit named Chuanxia Circuit(川峡路) in 981. In 1001, Chuanxia Circuit was split to four Circuit named Yizhou( 益州), Lizhou ( 利州), Zizhou ( 梓州), Kuizhou ( 夔州). Abbreviated as "Chuanxia Silu" or "Sichuan Lu", "Sichuan" resulting from these two names. "Sichuan" as an official place name first appeared when the central government set the office named 四川都转运使、四川宣抚使、四川安抚史 in early Southern Song (I can't translate the office name, they are ancient government agencies). [3]: 103
I have check literature like《中国地名掌故词典》, 《中国地名辞源》, 《四川省志》, 《中国政区大典》, 《中华人民共和国政区大典·四川省卷》. There is no one express "Sichuan" means "four rivers". I know there is a folk saying "Sichuan" means "four rivers", I don't know what is the source of this opinion. And then, I read the article 《我国省区名称的来源》 which written by Tan Qixiang, he determined "four rivers" is an erroneous interpretation. In summary, every formal reference I have read express the name of "Sichuan" is a general name of "Chuanxia Silu" or "Sichuan Lu", there is no formal reference express the meaning of "four rivers". So, "Sichuan" could not be translated as "four rivers". If you insist in believing "four rivers", please show up the formal references. At last, sorry my English is not very good, thank you read my rough grammar😂-- Xiliu※heshui · criticize me 05:15, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Oh, I got what you mean Orz.... Thanks to your help. You can sort out my translation above and publish in the article if you want. I think readers could understand why it is general name easily. Sorry I can't do it because of my rough English Orz....-- Xiliu※heshui · criticize me 05:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Yap, but these books [4] [5] [6] are not rigorous professional etymology book, I think they are not formal references for the etymology interpretation. I agree you opinion starting why a popular belief is wrong. About the circuit, actually I don't know so much about it😂, maybe I will expand it when my English be improved. Have a nice day~-- Xiliu※heshui · criticize me 13:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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I am aware you've made a discussion relating to The Paternoster Gang. But sources were added to this page, and i speak here relating to Torchwood, a long ago time ago but another user i believe BigWhoFan continued to remove references after releases.
I have since managed to retrieve several of the news articles that were orginally in place and added several more for the more upcoming releases including from again Digital Spy, Gay Times, Radio Times and Den of Geek.
Does this satisfy yet the notability of the article for Torchwood (audio drama series).
I am also still searching for interviews in which the cast have also mentioned it.
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The list is needed for the category, same as all the other countries. Benkenobi18 ( talk) 12:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Hzh, I see you've been around for some years and also you took an interest in the
Anthony J. Hilder article which you revisited and voted to save. Yeah, you're right with what you said here"should avoid filling the article with references that don't contribute to notability, in fact obscuring what might be the useful ones". I see that it does need tidying up now and too much stuff just adds up to a jungle. I wonder if you could please keep an eye on the edits to the article and see if there's anything strange going on. I'm not referring to the editor that I have had very recent disagreements with over what should be in. However there's a newbie on the scene. I'm not asking you to get involved in the editing of the article. I'm just wondering if you could watch the history of the article and see if there's a move in the direction to remove some credible refs from reliable news sources which could de-stabilize this article which is being considered for deletion. Maybe, maybe not, but who knows. Thanks
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Why did you remove the article if it was a sub. The album is in process of expanding, just as I recently started fixing all articles connected to her discography. The info will come, I just need more time. Agree to undo the redirect? Dalida Editor please ping or message me' 14:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hiya, just thought I let you know I added a few Spurs books that I have to the booklist, so I have access to some info if you need me to look anything up. Regards, Govvy ( talk) 11:48, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Do we have a list of Tottenham chairman? Govvy ( talk) 13:25, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, i think the new table was easy to understand which season had what judges. sorry for making that edit without talking about before i published it.
thank you, I now understand.
That last edit of yours, DMY was out of format, but can't see it in the article. Govvy ( talk) 22:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Dear Hzh: I am confident that you are a sincere and dedicated editor, and likely interested in the topic of weapons and armor in Chinese mythology. However, your apparent belief that there are no in-line citations is incorrect. The article contains parenthetical referencing to four reputable sources, Birrell, Christie, Eberhard, and Yang Lihui (please see Wikipedia:Parenthetical referencing for more information about using parenthetical reference citations on Wikipedia). The jian material is mostly adapted from "Category:中國名劍" on zh.wikipedia, although also largely verifiable from other sources. Perhaps you are being unduly harsh in your demands for better referencing in this article, considering that it is new (begun 20 April 2019) and that I have been working on it in my spare time? My plan has been to add more reference citations as I went along and have the time. There is no original research, just need for more work on the article. Frankly, it is somewhat discouraging to the process to have you treat the article as though it were a nomination for good article status! Please don't mistake this Start class article (actually barely more than Stub class) for something more developed. I would certainly welcome any positive contributions to the article you might care to make, or if you would at least refrain from making it harder for me to work on it! Thanks, Dcattell ( talk) 19:08, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Please do not assume original research or at least be open to hearing responses when you raise issues. I'm adding a note here after you suggested that I could be banned for writing articles and responding and addressing deletion requests. Please see the full discussion related to Symbolic language (art), but I include my remarks below should you succeed in getting the articles deleted. I believe in Wikipedia although I'm getting concerned about the effort required to participate.
Symbolic language is an important thing in engineering. It's critical to be able to communicate a great deal of information concisely. That's a fundamental truth that doesn't require footnotes (like the Wikipedia example that Paris is the capital of France). The articles began when I turned to Wikipedia for something related to computing or engineering and I found many, many articles that discuss 'symbolic language' that had nothing to do with what I needed. We use disambiguation articles to assist with this, but in this case, the disambiguation alone is a jumping off spot into large independent scholarly areas. Take a look at the Wikidictionary definition of symbolic logic linked in the article - it doesn't address symbolic language in art or in music. The categories and "See also" links (which are extensive for each article) are completely different depending on the context. Each context article is complex - it links to many other Wikipedia articles to help readers understand the topic in the context in which they are interested. In turn, it provides an internal and appropriate link when this common term in used throughout Wikipedia. There are many JSTOR and other references as well as extensive, art-specific, links to related internal and external useful, notable, scholarly works are provided. I believe in good faith that all issues have been addressed, that it warrants an article, and that combining all these areas into one would be more likely to confuse than support readers (as evidenced by the very different categories selected for each different article). "Symbolic language" just means very different things depending on the discipline. Thus, I have removed the original research question and replaced it with a more formal definition. I have removed the notability as this topic is covered in notable sources specific to the field of art and visual imagery. Again, the articles are in response to my own attempt to use Wikipedia to find information that was not yet provided. There is no original research in any of these, except that the article itself didn't exist yet (which is why it was written). Writing a useful, well-connected Wikipedia article is not original research. I'm quite sure any active editor can be blocked. I believe Wikipedia is one of the greatest resources available and one of the most important, collaborative undertakings ever done by humanity. We don't all agree, but I'm grateful for every person who takes time to participate. The article is better for your suggestions. Cypherquest ( talk) 14:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
You suggested deleting Symbolic language (engineering) in part because you didn't know it was a thing in engineering. Both myself and another reviewer have assured you that it is, and widely recognized facts (e.g. Paris as capital of France) don't need a specific citation as per WP policy. After addressing your issues, I removed the template - as your instructions on my talk page told me to do. You restated your opinion and restored the template and mentioned that I could be risking getting banned. As noted on that discussion, recommending articles for deletion because one or more editors aren't aware of all things in all fields is contrary to our purpose to serve as a key source across many disciplines. We're willing to spend hours creating articles and addressing issues raised by people outside the field, but once a position is taken, it is can be challenging to affect any updates (even though the deleting notice specifically requests specific actions). If editors choose to delete articles outside their field, they are generally able to do so whether appropriate or not. Further, you've suggested I could be banned for making updates and removing the notice. Your position is unlikely to change regardless of additional edits. Again, especially if the articles are outside your area, what is the worst possible downside to allowing them to remain and evolve? I'm having a hard time understanding the motivation behind your statements and the lack of understanding of the differences between an encyclopedia as a collection of synthesized knowledge and original research.
I was searching for this information, Wikipedia didn't have it (although 'symbolic language' appears in over 200 hundred articles) and the definition we link to didn't help, so I wrote the missing article. Every article in Wikipedia is a novel synthesis of information from outside references. These are the best distillation of commonly used terms I could find (after a considerable amount of trying to find one). What you're asking for doesn't to my knowledge exist out there - there is no WP article on it yet - except the ones written that concisely, with additional internal and external links - describe what this thing is in the context of engineering. Which is a very different thing than when used in the context of art. Even the most general use of 'symbolic language' branches into different linguistic categories very early in the classification. These disambiguation articles are helpful to others looking for similar information.
The fact that it doesn't exist yet is exactly why it was created. Does this help? Cypherquest ( talk) 17:46, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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This added basically the same information and used the same citation as the one at Imperfect_Circle#Charts but it was also not saved in the reference template like the rest of the references in that article. Can you explain your thinking here? ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 23:18, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Can you go to the talk page and explain WHY you reverted the move? There was an RM discussion which had been closed, perhaps too soon. Thanks. Johnbod ( talk) 17:55, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Good afternoon Hzh Why are the Simple Wikipedia versions of https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelique_Rockas https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalist_Theatre
more to the point than the half-baked Wikipedia EN entries /info/en/?search=Angelique_Rockas
/info/en/?search=Internationalist_Theatre
Do you think you could find time to fill in the gaps in the EN Wikipedia entries from which serious performances and reviews are missing , removing copyright violations?
Thank you
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Thank you for your attention. You may like to consider the following suggestions: There is obviously a need to provide a citation requested in the Angelique Rockas EN opening paragraph ,although an explanation is given in the Internationalist Theatre section of that same article. The Time Out link with the rejection of a Pakistani and /or American actor performing in Mother Courage would be I think a good citation. Or maybe the FT one Maybe with an additional note from you.
What is missing in the Acting career of the EN article are performances and reception. As it stands there is nothing notable about the acting career , mentioned in the British Film Institute archive profile, as well as in the Wikipedia entries of:
/info/en/?search=Medea_(play) /info/en/?search=Miss_Julie /info/en/?search=In_the_Bar_of_a_Tokyo_Hotel
/info/en/?search=The_Camp_(1967_play)
/info/en/?search=Mother_Courage_and_Her_Children
https://en.wikipedia.og/wiki/Enemies
What is obvious in the Simple Wikipedia`s <Angelique Rockas> version is that there were notable and ground breaking performances . About 5-6 performances are omitted. As an editor you can choose what receptions are valid and check to see if they are taken from the original digital sources or not.
Regarding the Internationalist EN entry well it has been reduced to a stub of low importance. You may as well chuck it out. This is not a reflection of the contribution by this company to British theatre ,archived in the Brecht archive of Berlin and in the British Library which does not take in any old stuff. Look at the provenance of the reviews. The premiere performance by Internationalist Theatre of Griselda Gambaro`s The Camp which has its own Wiki entries /info/en/?search=Griselda_Gambaro and The Camp (1967 play), and written about by Michelene Wandor a well known UK feminist writer has been totally omitted.
Even if you aren`t au fait with the history of the artist or the company there is no reason why some of the points with relevant links cannot be added don`t you think? Thank you {````} appropriate signs of signature not available on this bashed up computer sorry. CatoCatullus
Good afternoon Hzh Any progress on the citations . The Simple Wikipedia entries are full of them. You suggest that I too can post , but you are the expert judging from your Wikipedia acreditations at the bottom of your page, and a bashed up computer with a faulty i key is not for posting.
Thank you {````} appropriate signs of signature not available on this bashed up computer sorry. CatoCatullus — Preceding unsigned comment added by CatoCatullus ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
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See Dweller's points about players at bottom of his section at FAC page. I am in two minds but don't have the sources (i.e. generally try to rduce listiness wherever possible but sometimes unavoidable) Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 20:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Please do not remove the word "Guru" from the article. It is a prefix conferred one one's teachers, and I have seen it in articles about other Indian Classical Artists. There are certain conventions that exist within the field the subject of the article belongs to, and those ought to be respected. Wikipedia has its rules, yes, but I am sure none of those were intended to be disrespectful to the very subjects that form the body of the encyclopaedia. About language that puffs the subject up, tell me which portions exactly, and I'll modify them. Many thanks. Icharp ( talk) 15:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Let me explain to you the name of Sichuan. Firstly I translate the corresponding chapter in Chinese article for you, I rewrite the chapter when I found it is wrong. Central government set Jiannan Xichuan Jiedushi(剑南西川节度使) and Jiannan Dongchuan Jiedushi(剑南东川节度使) in the early Tang Dynasty. (Jiannan is a Circuit (Dao) named Jiannan Dao( 剑南道) in Tang dynasty. And there is no reference to explain what means Xichuan or Dongchuan, I can't guess the meaning subjectively). The two Jiedushi were abbreviated as Xichuan and Dongchuan, "Chuan" means flat plain. [1]: 321 [2] In Northern Song Dynasty, the central government set Xichuan Circuit (西川路) in 970 and split out Xiaxi Circuit (峡西路) in 971, and merge these two Circuits to one Circuit named Chuanxia Circuit(川峡路) in 981. In 1001, Chuanxia Circuit was split to four Circuit named Yizhou( 益州), Lizhou ( 利州), Zizhou ( 梓州), Kuizhou ( 夔州). Abbreviated as "Chuanxia Silu" or "Sichuan Lu", "Sichuan" resulting from these two names. "Sichuan" as an official place name first appeared when the central government set the office named 四川都转运使、四川宣抚使、四川安抚史 in early Southern Song (I can't translate the office name, they are ancient government agencies). [3]: 103
I have check literature like《中国地名掌故词典》, 《中国地名辞源》, 《四川省志》, 《中国政区大典》, 《中华人民共和国政区大典·四川省卷》. There is no one express "Sichuan" means "four rivers". I know there is a folk saying "Sichuan" means "four rivers", I don't know what is the source of this opinion. And then, I read the article 《我国省区名称的来源》 which written by Tan Qixiang, he determined "four rivers" is an erroneous interpretation. In summary, every formal reference I have read express the name of "Sichuan" is a general name of "Chuanxia Silu" or "Sichuan Lu", there is no formal reference express the meaning of "four rivers". So, "Sichuan" could not be translated as "four rivers". If you insist in believing "four rivers", please show up the formal references. At last, sorry my English is not very good, thank you read my rough grammar😂-- Xiliu※heshui · criticize me 05:15, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Oh, I got what you mean Orz.... Thanks to your help. You can sort out my translation above and publish in the article if you want. I think readers could understand why it is general name easily. Sorry I can't do it because of my rough English Orz....-- Xiliu※heshui · criticize me 05:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Yap, but these books [4] [5] [6] are not rigorous professional etymology book, I think they are not formal references for the etymology interpretation. I agree you opinion starting why a popular belief is wrong. About the circuit, actually I don't know so much about it😂, maybe I will expand it when my English be improved. Have a nice day~-- Xiliu※heshui · criticize me 13:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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I am aware you've made a discussion relating to The Paternoster Gang. But sources were added to this page, and i speak here relating to Torchwood, a long ago time ago but another user i believe BigWhoFan continued to remove references after releases.
I have since managed to retrieve several of the news articles that were orginally in place and added several more for the more upcoming releases including from again Digital Spy, Gay Times, Radio Times and Den of Geek.
Does this satisfy yet the notability of the article for Torchwood (audio drama series).
I am also still searching for interviews in which the cast have also mentioned it.
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The list is needed for the category, same as all the other countries. Benkenobi18 ( talk) 12:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Hzh, I see you've been around for some years and also you took an interest in the
Anthony J. Hilder article which you revisited and voted to save. Yeah, you're right with what you said here"should avoid filling the article with references that don't contribute to notability, in fact obscuring what might be the useful ones". I see that it does need tidying up now and too much stuff just adds up to a jungle. I wonder if you could please keep an eye on the edits to the article and see if there's anything strange going on. I'm not referring to the editor that I have had very recent disagreements with over what should be in. However there's a newbie on the scene. I'm not asking you to get involved in the editing of the article. I'm just wondering if you could watch the history of the article and see if there's a move in the direction to remove some credible refs from reliable news sources which could de-stabilize this article which is being considered for deletion. Maybe, maybe not, but who knows. Thanks
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Why did you remove the article if it was a sub. The album is in process of expanding, just as I recently started fixing all articles connected to her discography. The info will come, I just need more time. Agree to undo the redirect? Dalida Editor please ping or message me' 14:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hiya, just thought I let you know I added a few Spurs books that I have to the booklist, so I have access to some info if you need me to look anything up. Regards, Govvy ( talk) 11:48, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Do we have a list of Tottenham chairman? Govvy ( talk) 13:25, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, i think the new table was easy to understand which season had what judges. sorry for making that edit without talking about before i published it.
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That last edit of yours, DMY was out of format, but can't see it in the article. Govvy ( talk) 22:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Dear Hzh: I am confident that you are a sincere and dedicated editor, and likely interested in the topic of weapons and armor in Chinese mythology. However, your apparent belief that there are no in-line citations is incorrect. The article contains parenthetical referencing to four reputable sources, Birrell, Christie, Eberhard, and Yang Lihui (please see Wikipedia:Parenthetical referencing for more information about using parenthetical reference citations on Wikipedia). The jian material is mostly adapted from "Category:中國名劍" on zh.wikipedia, although also largely verifiable from other sources. Perhaps you are being unduly harsh in your demands for better referencing in this article, considering that it is new (begun 20 April 2019) and that I have been working on it in my spare time? My plan has been to add more reference citations as I went along and have the time. There is no original research, just need for more work on the article. Frankly, it is somewhat discouraging to the process to have you treat the article as though it were a nomination for good article status! Please don't mistake this Start class article (actually barely more than Stub class) for something more developed. I would certainly welcome any positive contributions to the article you might care to make, or if you would at least refrain from making it harder for me to work on it! Thanks, Dcattell ( talk) 19:08, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Please do not assume original research or at least be open to hearing responses when you raise issues. I'm adding a note here after you suggested that I could be banned for writing articles and responding and addressing deletion requests. Please see the full discussion related to Symbolic language (art), but I include my remarks below should you succeed in getting the articles deleted. I believe in Wikipedia although I'm getting concerned about the effort required to participate.
Symbolic language is an important thing in engineering. It's critical to be able to communicate a great deal of information concisely. That's a fundamental truth that doesn't require footnotes (like the Wikipedia example that Paris is the capital of France). The articles began when I turned to Wikipedia for something related to computing or engineering and I found many, many articles that discuss 'symbolic language' that had nothing to do with what I needed. We use disambiguation articles to assist with this, but in this case, the disambiguation alone is a jumping off spot into large independent scholarly areas. Take a look at the Wikidictionary definition of symbolic logic linked in the article - it doesn't address symbolic language in art or in music. The categories and "See also" links (which are extensive for each article) are completely different depending on the context. Each context article is complex - it links to many other Wikipedia articles to help readers understand the topic in the context in which they are interested. In turn, it provides an internal and appropriate link when this common term in used throughout Wikipedia. There are many JSTOR and other references as well as extensive, art-specific, links to related internal and external useful, notable, scholarly works are provided. I believe in good faith that all issues have been addressed, that it warrants an article, and that combining all these areas into one would be more likely to confuse than support readers (as evidenced by the very different categories selected for each different article). "Symbolic language" just means very different things depending on the discipline. Thus, I have removed the original research question and replaced it with a more formal definition. I have removed the notability as this topic is covered in notable sources specific to the field of art and visual imagery. Again, the articles are in response to my own attempt to use Wikipedia to find information that was not yet provided. There is no original research in any of these, except that the article itself didn't exist yet (which is why it was written). Writing a useful, well-connected Wikipedia article is not original research. I'm quite sure any active editor can be blocked. I believe Wikipedia is one of the greatest resources available and one of the most important, collaborative undertakings ever done by humanity. We don't all agree, but I'm grateful for every person who takes time to participate. The article is better for your suggestions. Cypherquest ( talk) 14:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
You suggested deleting Symbolic language (engineering) in part because you didn't know it was a thing in engineering. Both myself and another reviewer have assured you that it is, and widely recognized facts (e.g. Paris as capital of France) don't need a specific citation as per WP policy. After addressing your issues, I removed the template - as your instructions on my talk page told me to do. You restated your opinion and restored the template and mentioned that I could be risking getting banned. As noted on that discussion, recommending articles for deletion because one or more editors aren't aware of all things in all fields is contrary to our purpose to serve as a key source across many disciplines. We're willing to spend hours creating articles and addressing issues raised by people outside the field, but once a position is taken, it is can be challenging to affect any updates (even though the deleting notice specifically requests specific actions). If editors choose to delete articles outside their field, they are generally able to do so whether appropriate or not. Further, you've suggested I could be banned for making updates and removing the notice. Your position is unlikely to change regardless of additional edits. Again, especially if the articles are outside your area, what is the worst possible downside to allowing them to remain and evolve? I'm having a hard time understanding the motivation behind your statements and the lack of understanding of the differences between an encyclopedia as a collection of synthesized knowledge and original research.
I was searching for this information, Wikipedia didn't have it (although 'symbolic language' appears in over 200 hundred articles) and the definition we link to didn't help, so I wrote the missing article. Every article in Wikipedia is a novel synthesis of information from outside references. These are the best distillation of commonly used terms I could find (after a considerable amount of trying to find one). What you're asking for doesn't to my knowledge exist out there - there is no WP article on it yet - except the ones written that concisely, with additional internal and external links - describe what this thing is in the context of engineering. Which is a very different thing than when used in the context of art. Even the most general use of 'symbolic language' branches into different linguistic categories very early in the classification. These disambiguation articles are helpful to others looking for similar information.
The fact that it doesn't exist yet is exactly why it was created. Does this help? Cypherquest ( talk) 17:46, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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This added basically the same information and used the same citation as the one at Imperfect_Circle#Charts but it was also not saved in the reference template like the rest of the references in that article. Can you explain your thinking here? ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 23:18, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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Good afternoon Hzh Why are the Simple Wikipedia versions of https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelique_Rockas https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalist_Theatre
more to the point than the half-baked Wikipedia EN entries /info/en/?search=Angelique_Rockas
/info/en/?search=Internationalist_Theatre
Do you think you could find time to fill in the gaps in the EN Wikipedia entries from which serious performances and reviews are missing , removing copyright violations?
Thank you
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Thank you for your attention. You may like to consider the following suggestions: There is obviously a need to provide a citation requested in the Angelique Rockas EN opening paragraph ,although an explanation is given in the Internationalist Theatre section of that same article. The Time Out link with the rejection of a Pakistani and /or American actor performing in Mother Courage would be I think a good citation. Or maybe the FT one Maybe with an additional note from you.
What is missing in the Acting career of the EN article are performances and reception. As it stands there is nothing notable about the acting career , mentioned in the British Film Institute archive profile, as well as in the Wikipedia entries of:
/info/en/?search=Medea_(play) /info/en/?search=Miss_Julie /info/en/?search=In_the_Bar_of_a_Tokyo_Hotel
/info/en/?search=The_Camp_(1967_play)
/info/en/?search=Mother_Courage_and_Her_Children
https://en.wikipedia.og/wiki/Enemies
What is obvious in the Simple Wikipedia`s <Angelique Rockas> version is that there were notable and ground breaking performances . About 5-6 performances are omitted. As an editor you can choose what receptions are valid and check to see if they are taken from the original digital sources or not.
Regarding the Internationalist EN entry well it has been reduced to a stub of low importance. You may as well chuck it out. This is not a reflection of the contribution by this company to British theatre ,archived in the Brecht archive of Berlin and in the British Library which does not take in any old stuff. Look at the provenance of the reviews. The premiere performance by Internationalist Theatre of Griselda Gambaro`s The Camp which has its own Wiki entries /info/en/?search=Griselda_Gambaro and The Camp (1967 play), and written about by Michelene Wandor a well known UK feminist writer has been totally omitted.
Even if you aren`t au fait with the history of the artist or the company there is no reason why some of the points with relevant links cannot be added don`t you think? Thank you {````} appropriate signs of signature not available on this bashed up computer sorry. CatoCatullus
Good afternoon Hzh Any progress on the citations . The Simple Wikipedia entries are full of them. You suggest that I too can post , but you are the expert judging from your Wikipedia acreditations at the bottom of your page, and a bashed up computer with a faulty i key is not for posting.
Thank you {````} appropriate signs of signature not available on this bashed up computer sorry. CatoCatullus — Preceding unsigned comment added by CatoCatullus ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.
Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.
Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.
Rank | Username | Num reviews | Log |
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1 | Rosguill ( talk) | 47,395 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Onel5969 ( talk) | 41,883 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | JTtheOG ( talk) | 11,493 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Arthistorian1977 ( talk) | 5,562 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | DannyS712 ( talk) | 4,866 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | CAPTAIN MEDUSA ( talk) | 3,995 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven ( talk) | 3,812 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Boleyn ( talk) | 3,655 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Ymblanter ( talk) | 3,553 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Cwmhiraeth ( talk) | 3,522 | Patrol Page Curation |
(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)
A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.
Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.
Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) at 16:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)