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Please see Discussion page of Florina for a response. Now as I said I m new over here but I ve been reading Wikipedia for a couple of years and I have noticed that there are a few users who persistently try to add foreign names (mostly Slavic, Turkish) in Greek places on the grounds of Minority or other issues. I think this is very serious. I dont know why they are doing it (i suspect) but frankly I dont care (for the reason). The thing is this has got to stop. Those people must understand that a serious Encyclopedia (have a look at Encarta, Britannica) will NEVER add in the lead a foreign name right beside the original spoken official name. They could add it in the history section for instance: Samos during the Ottoman Times was called Sisam, but not Samos or Sisam in Turkish, because this is funny and creares wrong impressions. The reader will obviously ask himself: Is Samos or Sisam Greek or Turkish? Or are there Lots of Turks there, or is it like Cyprus?
Anyway please take a look at Komotini, Kos and Rhodes. Things must get fixed.Thanks Aeg2008 ( talk) 21:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if I try to reopen old wounds, but the situation persists aided by this dubious guideline about naming conventions. It is common in Greek towns and places, yet I don't see any of this in articles regarding Instanbul for example. Has this issue been resolved in such a way? We both know that wikipedia can be far from neutral sometimes, but since you have done so much work on the subject, can you give me a heads-up? Alfadog777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.70.48.207 ( talk) 10:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
MOSMAC, etc. While I think I have seen WP:MOSMAC before, it hasn't been for awhile and I did not see it directly prior to my request. It was my recollection that "Republic of Macedonia" was used carte blanche; clearly, that is not the case. I never (and still have not) saw any discussion at User talk:Parsecboy, nor do I have that page on my watchlist. Please respond on my talk if you need any further discussion. Thank you for your note. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 04:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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You wrote: "Hi, the original version said "Βούλγαρους" and that was later substituted with the word "βάρβαρους", not the other way around.-- Avg 20:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)"
The phrasing, "Y was substituted for X", indicates that "X" was employed first and "Y", next; this phrasing will deliver to the reader the meaning you intend. Contrarily, the phrasing, "X was substituted with Y", is not a native construction and does not clearly indicate anything, but could (instead of simply confusing the reader) imply that "Y" was employed first and "X", second. Firstorm ( talk) 02:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Γειά! Βασικά πρώτος έγω δημιούργησα τη σελίδα με τον ύμνο και τις μεταφράσεις. Σε αυτό με το original version έχεις δικαιο, αλλά νομίζω οτι είναι πιο βασικό να παρουσιαστεί όπως χρησημοποιείται τώρα, άλλωστε χτυπάει πολύ άσχημα στον άσχετο ξένο αναγνώστη η πρώτη του έκδοση. Μας δυσφημεί σαν λαό. Παντώς σίγουρα θα πρέπει να αναφερθεί και πως το τραγουδούσαμε παλιά... Ποιά είναι η αποψή σου; -- makedonas ( talk) 22:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
You belong to the ethnos Macedonôn then, don't you? Moving the article has not made it less ambiguous, so why should we use a longer title? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I have noticed your messages concerning the diaspora under this term. Φυσικά, δεν περιμένω θαύματα, ούτε διακατέχομαι από φρούδες ελπίδες ότι σε ένα κυριαρχούμενο από την αμερικανική πολιτική θέμα θα δούμε κάποια αλλαγή στη Wikipedia. Όσο οι ΗΠΑ δεν είχαν αναγνωρίσει τα Σκόπια με το συνταγματικό τους όνομα, ο όρος "Republic of Macedonia" επιβαλλόταν στη Wikipedia. Έπειτα, αργά αλλά σταθερά αυτό άρχισε να αλλάζει, για να συμπλεύσει με την επίσημη αμερικανική εξωτερική πολιτική. But since no Wikipedian can ever seriously try to disassociate the term "Macedonian" from the Greeks, there is much potential in created a specific article concerning the Macedonian (Greek) diaspora. There is much information available on the net and bibliography. Pan-Macedonian assosiations inside the wider category of Greek diasporan assosiations also exist. Also, there are numerous precedents of separate diaspora articles for sub-ethnic groups in Wikipedia itself; in fact, there is not a clear policy concerning diaspora articles and categories in Wikipedia. There is the Greek Cypriot diaspora (as part of the Greek diaspora), there is Cypriot and Belgian diasporas (in the form of categories), irrespectively of ethnic group, just referring to a country, and Basque diaspora despite the fact that no independent Basque country exists. Also, there is the category Venetian diaspora as part of the Italian diaspora. I could create an article about the (Greek) Macedonian diaspora withing a few days. However, this should be renamed to Slav/RoM/FYRO Macedonian diaspora (or something like that) to avoid confusion. Then, a category "Macedonian diaspora" shall be created to include these diasporas as a regional reference, just as the categories: Scandinavian diaspora, European diasporas and African diaspora.
Hi Avg,
I don't believe we've talked before but since you've been dealing with FYROM/Greece related discussions for awhile here I thought I might come to you for some advice. I made some points on the Macedonian naming dispute talk page. I was wondering if you could please provide some input into the accuracy (or inaccuracy) of the points. -- Crossthets ( talk) 19:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
The problem here Avg is we know about those quotes and events.... but most neutrals don't. (including HR 300 and 356 which are also noticeably missing from the article) I think showing verifiable evidence of this sort in the naming dispute article puts into focus that FYROM nationals often contradict themselves when they make claims about their own ethnic identity (and how it ends up in acts of irredentism and hostility towards Greeks) This is the primary issue here... not the name dispute which is simply one facet of a jumble of ethnic problems they are experiencing.
Why this matters?
What I don't think many people fully appreciate is even if the name issue is resolved (or stays unresolved)... . the real issue... FYROM ultra-nationalist claims they are related to ancient Macedonians.... will have no reason not to continue to fester indefinitely. It seems very plausible that knowing they are primarily Slavic in origin, speak a Slavic dialect, showed up a thousand years too late for Macedon, and have 2.5 million other Greek Macedonians right next door... will continue to drive their insecurities about their ethnic identity. This will in turn encourage more acts of irredentism and hostility... which in turn will continue to destabilize the region further (including parts of Bulgaria and Albania eventually). -- Crossthets ( talk) 21:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello,Avg. That article ("Aegean Macedonia" and Macedonians) is just...τραβηγμένο απ'τα μαλλιά. Παραβιάζει πολλούς "κανόνες" της εγκυκλοπαίδειας, κυρίως το MOSMAC. I say we call a deletion review on it, leaving the probability of it surviving with only changing the title. (If we wait to resolve the map issue first, we will never fix this one.) What do you think?? -- Michael X the White ( talk) 16:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree 100000% with you. I proposed the probability of survival with only name change, because we may also need to give something to achieve something. I see the whole problem with these articles. Shouldn't we, however, give it another chance?? I think the team that developed in the map issue can also achieve a lot in all these articles too.-- Michael X the White ( talk) 18:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
(Thanks for the concern for that barnstar!! I just leave it there as other stuff!) Still, what 're we going to do about those "Aegean" articles?? -- Michael X the White ( talk) 12:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I need information on Antonio Fountoulakis. He left the US owing people millions. Your website is terrible. There is no logic to it. I have lived in Greece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.51.203.155 ( talk) 21:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Avg, your signature (pale blue on dark blue) is very hard to read and probably impossible for many people with visual problems (contrast). Per WP:SIG#Appearance and color, could you please change your signature to something with higher contrast? Fram ( talk) 06:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
There is an entire article that is so absurdly offbase I recommend it should be either flagged for deletion or written. I am in the process of cleaning it up in the meantime for reasons I've outlined on the talk page but I'd appreciate your participation if you have time.
Also do you know how to add the following disclaimer to the head of the Aegean Macedonians article (another one-sided communist/FYROM POV fest)
I've been trying for the last two weekends to read the
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I saw the change you made to Browns article, changing it from Scottish to British nationality. I dont disagree with the change, but the trouble is whilst some articles list people as British many others list their nationality as Scottish or English etc. I would rather see them all listed as British which is there legal nationality or as a compromise Scottish and British etc. BritishWatcher ( talk) 12:17, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Did this user give you a reason why he is using two names? I just noticed your message on his talk page. [1] -- AW ( talk) 22:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Good prediction. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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May I ask why you object to the current name of the country article?-- Patton t/ c 12:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I would like to give some input on this issue. I hope you aren't getting beaten over the head with this issue.
Points:
Justification:
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I will ask you cordially to please retract this statemtent; " User:PMK1 called User:Heracletus (or rather his village) Grecoman" [2]. In no way did I call Heracletus a "Grecoman", nor did I label "his/her" village a "Grecoman" one. I do not know the user nor his background. I will state again in no way did speculate about the users ethnicity nor his ethnic background. My statement was in relation to another topic altogether. Thank you. PMK1 ( talk) 03:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for adding evidence to Macedonia 2. We ask all participants and commentators to limit the size of their evidence to 1,000 words. Please trim your statement accordingly. Neat, concisely presented statements are much more likely to be understood and to influence the decisions of the Arbitrators. In addition, I delinked a few of you headers. Links in headers can disrupt screen readers.
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Sorry to bother you, but I' d like your input on something. Are we in an open season for Greeks/ pro Greek position users? I mean, reading the /Workshop I see that there is a general attitude of " We don't need them, they cause us problems". There wasn't even understanding of the malignancy of the practice of ethnic profiling, not to mention condemning it. In fact, it is accepted as evidence in an attempt to support a generic ban on all Greek IPs. Especially the user Taivo is against anything in general and particular that a Greek/ pro Greek user might post. Most of the times, without bothering to state really why. They accuse Greeks of walling, while they are actually doing exactly that. Arguments of pro Greek users are dismissed. Are the Arbitrators going to act in a similar fashion? Because then, we are just wasting our lives here in front of monitors and the NPOV view of Wikipedia is just a scant dream. Also, is there an estimate of the time Arbitration is going to take? When can we expect a proposed solution? Regards Alfadog777 ( talk) 22:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I am quickly approaching the point where I am going to block both you and Future Perfect at Sunrise for disruption. I strongly suggest that you both stop commenting on each other. Both on pages related to the arbitration case and elsewhere on Wikipedia. Arguing with each other on the talk pages is pointless. It will not change the outcome of arbitration, and may in fact hurt your case in the eyes of the Arbitrators. Please add your evidence, your proposed decision, and let the Arbitration Committee handle the rest. You should consider this your only warning. I am leaving this same note for Future Perfect at Sunrise. Please let me know if you have any questions. KnightLago ( talk) 21:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
For what is worth, I never referred to the edits, which were of course non-disruptive, I referred to the creation of the sockpuppet per se, and the text that is posted on the User page. I maintain that they are a violation. -- Avg ( talk) 22:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
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Θέλω να βοηθήσω τα άτομα (editors) που ασχολούνται με το θέμα της Μακεδονίας. Με ποιον να έρθω σε επαφή και με ποιόν τρόπο (πως μπορώ να στείλω κρυφό μήνυμα)?
Μπορείτε να επικοινωνήσετε μαζί μου στο bobptz παπάκι Τζιμαιλ τελεία κομ. Kavathes ( talk) 10:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
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I just got a warning from ChrisO for 'Original Research.' I was editing the list in the Macedonia Name Dispute page and I had just removed a reference used fort he Dutch position as it was a dead link. Then I noticed the two GOVT references on this page: [ [6]] both point to Denmark using FYROM or FYR Macedonia yet Denmark was in the list under 'List of countries to be sorted.' I moved Denmark to countries which use FYROM, ChrisO immediately reverted stating you need a source that states how Denmark uses the name, not infer it yourself from a random document. I then informed him, the 'random document were two Danish Govt Pages that were already there as references concerning Denmark and reverted. ChrisO then proceeded to revert and dish me out with an 'Original Research Warning.' This time he changed his story and stated: you are inferring Denmark's position, but the documents you cite do not say anything about whether Denmark recognises the constitutional name or not. This is interesting. Most of the list is made up of Embassy pages using the word Macedonia, and immediately they are on the list, under countries who recognise the Republic of Macedonia. I wonder how many of those editors received warnings from ChrisO? I am going to make this action of ChrisO stick as his behaviour in general has downgraded the neutrality Administrators are supposed to have. Any help on how to make him come to account for this action would be most appreciated. He has put the case down here:[ [7]] Reaper7 ( talk) 13:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia_2/Workshop#Question_for_Avg — Rlevse • Talk • 01:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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Please see Discussion page of Florina for a response. Now as I said I m new over here but I ve been reading Wikipedia for a couple of years and I have noticed that there are a few users who persistently try to add foreign names (mostly Slavic, Turkish) in Greek places on the grounds of Minority or other issues. I think this is very serious. I dont know why they are doing it (i suspect) but frankly I dont care (for the reason). The thing is this has got to stop. Those people must understand that a serious Encyclopedia (have a look at Encarta, Britannica) will NEVER add in the lead a foreign name right beside the original spoken official name. They could add it in the history section for instance: Samos during the Ottoman Times was called Sisam, but not Samos or Sisam in Turkish, because this is funny and creares wrong impressions. The reader will obviously ask himself: Is Samos or Sisam Greek or Turkish? Or are there Lots of Turks there, or is it like Cyprus?
Anyway please take a look at Komotini, Kos and Rhodes. Things must get fixed.Thanks Aeg2008 ( talk) 21:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if I try to reopen old wounds, but the situation persists aided by this dubious guideline about naming conventions. It is common in Greek towns and places, yet I don't see any of this in articles regarding Instanbul for example. Has this issue been resolved in such a way? We both know that wikipedia can be far from neutral sometimes, but since you have done so much work on the subject, can you give me a heads-up? Alfadog777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.70.48.207 ( talk) 10:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
MOSMAC, etc. While I think I have seen WP:MOSMAC before, it hasn't been for awhile and I did not see it directly prior to my request. It was my recollection that "Republic of Macedonia" was used carte blanche; clearly, that is not the case. I never (and still have not) saw any discussion at User talk:Parsecboy, nor do I have that page on my watchlist. Please respond on my talk if you need any further discussion. Thank you for your note. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 04:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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You wrote: "Hi, the original version said "Βούλγαρους" and that was later substituted with the word "βάρβαρους", not the other way around.-- Avg 20:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)"
The phrasing, "Y was substituted for X", indicates that "X" was employed first and "Y", next; this phrasing will deliver to the reader the meaning you intend. Contrarily, the phrasing, "X was substituted with Y", is not a native construction and does not clearly indicate anything, but could (instead of simply confusing the reader) imply that "Y" was employed first and "X", second. Firstorm ( talk) 02:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Γειά! Βασικά πρώτος έγω δημιούργησα τη σελίδα με τον ύμνο και τις μεταφράσεις. Σε αυτό με το original version έχεις δικαιο, αλλά νομίζω οτι είναι πιο βασικό να παρουσιαστεί όπως χρησημοποιείται τώρα, άλλωστε χτυπάει πολύ άσχημα στον άσχετο ξένο αναγνώστη η πρώτη του έκδοση. Μας δυσφημεί σαν λαό. Παντώς σίγουρα θα πρέπει να αναφερθεί και πως το τραγουδούσαμε παλιά... Ποιά είναι η αποψή σου; -- makedonas ( talk) 22:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
You belong to the ethnos Macedonôn then, don't you? Moving the article has not made it less ambiguous, so why should we use a longer title? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I have noticed your messages concerning the diaspora under this term. Φυσικά, δεν περιμένω θαύματα, ούτε διακατέχομαι από φρούδες ελπίδες ότι σε ένα κυριαρχούμενο από την αμερικανική πολιτική θέμα θα δούμε κάποια αλλαγή στη Wikipedia. Όσο οι ΗΠΑ δεν είχαν αναγνωρίσει τα Σκόπια με το συνταγματικό τους όνομα, ο όρος "Republic of Macedonia" επιβαλλόταν στη Wikipedia. Έπειτα, αργά αλλά σταθερά αυτό άρχισε να αλλάζει, για να συμπλεύσει με την επίσημη αμερικανική εξωτερική πολιτική. But since no Wikipedian can ever seriously try to disassociate the term "Macedonian" from the Greeks, there is much potential in created a specific article concerning the Macedonian (Greek) diaspora. There is much information available on the net and bibliography. Pan-Macedonian assosiations inside the wider category of Greek diasporan assosiations also exist. Also, there are numerous precedents of separate diaspora articles for sub-ethnic groups in Wikipedia itself; in fact, there is not a clear policy concerning diaspora articles and categories in Wikipedia. There is the Greek Cypriot diaspora (as part of the Greek diaspora), there is Cypriot and Belgian diasporas (in the form of categories), irrespectively of ethnic group, just referring to a country, and Basque diaspora despite the fact that no independent Basque country exists. Also, there is the category Venetian diaspora as part of the Italian diaspora. I could create an article about the (Greek) Macedonian diaspora withing a few days. However, this should be renamed to Slav/RoM/FYRO Macedonian diaspora (or something like that) to avoid confusion. Then, a category "Macedonian diaspora" shall be created to include these diasporas as a regional reference, just as the categories: Scandinavian diaspora, European diasporas and African diaspora.
Hi Avg,
I don't believe we've talked before but since you've been dealing with FYROM/Greece related discussions for awhile here I thought I might come to you for some advice. I made some points on the Macedonian naming dispute talk page. I was wondering if you could please provide some input into the accuracy (or inaccuracy) of the points. -- Crossthets ( talk) 19:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
The problem here Avg is we know about those quotes and events.... but most neutrals don't. (including HR 300 and 356 which are also noticeably missing from the article) I think showing verifiable evidence of this sort in the naming dispute article puts into focus that FYROM nationals often contradict themselves when they make claims about their own ethnic identity (and how it ends up in acts of irredentism and hostility towards Greeks) This is the primary issue here... not the name dispute which is simply one facet of a jumble of ethnic problems they are experiencing.
Why this matters?
What I don't think many people fully appreciate is even if the name issue is resolved (or stays unresolved)... . the real issue... FYROM ultra-nationalist claims they are related to ancient Macedonians.... will have no reason not to continue to fester indefinitely. It seems very plausible that knowing they are primarily Slavic in origin, speak a Slavic dialect, showed up a thousand years too late for Macedon, and have 2.5 million other Greek Macedonians right next door... will continue to drive their insecurities about their ethnic identity. This will in turn encourage more acts of irredentism and hostility... which in turn will continue to destabilize the region further (including parts of Bulgaria and Albania eventually). -- Crossthets ( talk) 21:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello,Avg. That article ("Aegean Macedonia" and Macedonians) is just...τραβηγμένο απ'τα μαλλιά. Παραβιάζει πολλούς "κανόνες" της εγκυκλοπαίδειας, κυρίως το MOSMAC. I say we call a deletion review on it, leaving the probability of it surviving with only changing the title. (If we wait to resolve the map issue first, we will never fix this one.) What do you think?? -- Michael X the White ( talk) 16:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree 100000% with you. I proposed the probability of survival with only name change, because we may also need to give something to achieve something. I see the whole problem with these articles. Shouldn't we, however, give it another chance?? I think the team that developed in the map issue can also achieve a lot in all these articles too.-- Michael X the White ( talk) 18:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
(Thanks for the concern for that barnstar!! I just leave it there as other stuff!) Still, what 're we going to do about those "Aegean" articles?? -- Michael X the White ( talk) 12:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I need information on Antonio Fountoulakis. He left the US owing people millions. Your website is terrible. There is no logic to it. I have lived in Greece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.51.203.155 ( talk) 21:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Avg, your signature (pale blue on dark blue) is very hard to read and probably impossible for many people with visual problems (contrast). Per WP:SIG#Appearance and color, could you please change your signature to something with higher contrast? Fram ( talk) 06:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
There is an entire article that is so absurdly offbase I recommend it should be either flagged for deletion or written. I am in the process of cleaning it up in the meantime for reasons I've outlined on the talk page but I'd appreciate your participation if you have time.
Also do you know how to add the following disclaimer to the head of the Aegean Macedonians article (another one-sided communist/FYROM POV fest)
I've been trying for the last two weekends to read the
WP:Deletion review (that is relevant in this case), but my browser (Windows Internet Expl. 8 Beta, I don't know why I downloaded it) cannot support that long pages and so everytime I tried, the browser only collapsed. Please, if you can, do not improve the article but try to nominate it for deletion review, for reasons stated in another section above.--
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I saw the change you made to Browns article, changing it from Scottish to British nationality. I dont disagree with the change, but the trouble is whilst some articles list people as British many others list their nationality as Scottish or English etc. I would rather see them all listed as British which is there legal nationality or as a compromise Scottish and British etc. BritishWatcher ( talk) 12:17, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Did this user give you a reason why he is using two names? I just noticed your message on his talk page. [1] -- AW ( talk) 22:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Good prediction. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Move of the article Republic of Macedonia to Macedonia by User:ChrisO and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.
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May I ask why you object to the current name of the country article?-- Patton t/ c 12:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I would like to give some input on this issue. I hope you aren't getting beaten over the head with this issue.
Points:
Justification:
EDG161 ( talk) 07:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, —— nix eagle email me 03:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I will ask you cordially to please retract this statemtent; " User:PMK1 called User:Heracletus (or rather his village) Grecoman" [2]. In no way did I call Heracletus a "Grecoman", nor did I label "his/her" village a "Grecoman" one. I do not know the user nor his background. I will state again in no way did speculate about the users ethnicity nor his ethnic background. My statement was in relation to another topic altogether. Thank you. PMK1 ( talk) 03:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for adding evidence to Macedonia 2. We ask all participants and commentators to limit the size of their evidence to 1,000 words. Please trim your statement accordingly. Neat, concisely presented statements are much more likely to be understood and to influence the decisions of the Arbitrators. In addition, I delinked a few of you headers. Links in headers can disrupt screen readers.
For the Arbitration Committee. KnightLago ( talk) 13:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but I' d like your input on something. Are we in an open season for Greeks/ pro Greek position users? I mean, reading the /Workshop I see that there is a general attitude of " We don't need them, they cause us problems". There wasn't even understanding of the malignancy of the practice of ethnic profiling, not to mention condemning it. In fact, it is accepted as evidence in an attempt to support a generic ban on all Greek IPs. Especially the user Taivo is against anything in general and particular that a Greek/ pro Greek user might post. Most of the times, without bothering to state really why. They accuse Greeks of walling, while they are actually doing exactly that. Arguments of pro Greek users are dismissed. Are the Arbitrators going to act in a similar fashion? Because then, we are just wasting our lives here in front of monitors and the NPOV view of Wikipedia is just a scant dream. Also, is there an estimate of the time Arbitration is going to take? When can we expect a proposed solution? Regards Alfadog777 ( talk) 22:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I am quickly approaching the point where I am going to block both you and Future Perfect at Sunrise for disruption. I strongly suggest that you both stop commenting on each other. Both on pages related to the arbitration case and elsewhere on Wikipedia. Arguing with each other on the talk pages is pointless. It will not change the outcome of arbitration, and may in fact hurt your case in the eyes of the Arbitrators. Please add your evidence, your proposed decision, and let the Arbitration Committee handle the rest. You should consider this your only warning. I am leaving this same note for Future Perfect at Sunrise. Please let me know if you have any questions. KnightLago ( talk) 21:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
For what is worth, I never referred to the edits, which were of course non-disruptive, I referred to the creation of the sockpuppet per se, and the text that is posted on the User page. I maintain that they are a violation. -- Avg ( talk) 22:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Καλημέρα
Θέλω να βοηθήσω τα άτομα (editors) που ασχολούνται με το θέμα της Μακεδονίας. Με ποιον να έρθω σε επαφή και με ποιόν τρόπο (πως μπορώ να στείλω κρυφό μήνυμα)?
Μπορείτε να επικοινωνήσετε μαζί μου στο bobptz παπάκι Τζιμαιλ τελεία κομ. Kavathes ( talk) 10:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
...Cavafy? SQRT5P1D2 ( talk) 23:52, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I just got a warning from ChrisO for 'Original Research.' I was editing the list in the Macedonia Name Dispute page and I had just removed a reference used fort he Dutch position as it was a dead link. Then I noticed the two GOVT references on this page: [ [6]] both point to Denmark using FYROM or FYR Macedonia yet Denmark was in the list under 'List of countries to be sorted.' I moved Denmark to countries which use FYROM, ChrisO immediately reverted stating you need a source that states how Denmark uses the name, not infer it yourself from a random document. I then informed him, the 'random document were two Danish Govt Pages that were already there as references concerning Denmark and reverted. ChrisO then proceeded to revert and dish me out with an 'Original Research Warning.' This time he changed his story and stated: you are inferring Denmark's position, but the documents you cite do not say anything about whether Denmark recognises the constitutional name or not. This is interesting. Most of the list is made up of Embassy pages using the word Macedonia, and immediately they are on the list, under countries who recognise the Republic of Macedonia. I wonder how many of those editors received warnings from ChrisO? I am going to make this action of ChrisO stick as his behaviour in general has downgraded the neutrality Administrators are supposed to have. Any help on how to make him come to account for this action would be most appreciated. He has put the case down here:[ [7]] Reaper7 ( talk) 13:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia_2/Workshop#Question_for_Avg — Rlevse • Talk • 01:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move Burma to Myanmar. I know this happened just recently but no administrator would close these frequent rm's down, so here we go again. This note is going out to wikipedia members who have participated in Burma/Myanmar name changing polls in the past. It does not include banned members nor those with only ip addresses. Thank you. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 20:13, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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