Hear, hear! Little Aude hit nail on head! What is Wikipedia about? [1] Have very own popcornmaker! Scoot over on couch, watch the show, share popcorn with 'zilla and little 'shonen (don't give ArbCom any). bishzilla ROARR!! 23:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
Hi Aude. As far as I know this kind of behaviour has never been accepted in the 9/11 pages: any significant change from estabilished versions must be discussed before being applied in order to check wheter there is consensus, and discussions should not be made by means of edit summaries, they must be made in the talk page. Don't you agree?-- Pokipsy76 ( talk) 16:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude/Archive9, In a 2008 arbitration case administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user working on articles concerning the September 11, 2001 attacks. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you. — Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (speech has the power to bind the absolute) 19:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
My apologies, but your latest violations forced me to seek the remedy for your unacceptable behavior and disregard to the community, you may find it at the Administrators' noticeboard. Tachyonbursts ( talk) 00:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
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Aude, first, let me thank you for your dedication to 9/11 articles and efforts to edit.
Second, I'm planning to put Flight 11 up for Featured Article status tonight. I just wanted your input on that. As an admin and editor of the article, how do you feel about the article's status? -- VegitaU ( talk) 04:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't want to start a new section, but I wanted your input on something. With Wikipedia being such a visible source, we can really make a statement with what we display. There are pictures of bodies found at the Pentagon found here and posting these could really open people's eyes. Especially those who say there were no bodies seen at the Pentagon. What do you think? Should we post these? -- VegitaU ( talk) 15:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I made a first pass on AA11. I have not touched the crash or aftermath sections yet. Will get to those later this afternoon. -- PTR ( talk) 16:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps you missed the part where the editor removed the CSD tag. Which, as you of course know, is blockable if the editor persists. He removed it twice and I warned him appropriately. Have a nice day. Bstone ( talk) 14:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I tried to respond to your comments at FAC. There are now more wikilinks and the lead has been quite radically revised, in a way that is intended to set off better the article's emphases and strengths. And further thoughts you had would be most appreciated. -- jbmurray ( talk • contribs) 08:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hey Aude, check out the section entitled hello on my talk page and inform me at User:Redmarkviolinist/Talkpage2 on how I dealt with the questions that Xiutwel asked me. Cheers, ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line Review Me! 18:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Aude, were you planning to revisit Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/American Airlines Flight 77? Since you're an admin, I was wondering if you could look into Talk:The Pentagon#Article title; it looks to me like our article is mistitled, and belongs at Pentagon (building), but I'm hoping you know more about the actual name of the building. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 02:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't like the way of inputing more realistic point of view into 'conspiracy teories' - all more educated Americans already know the truth. Other people live not aware as they under the influence of propaganda. What we gonna do with this? On which side we are? All English wikipedia supports untruly facts as one checks another. This makes the official version very stable. Will we need to wait until the history will show the real true? But TRUE will not be thanksgiving to wikipedia. I know this mechanisms much better as I'm a Polish and I lived in such system of selfchecking many years. But finally truth won in Poland. I you can do it Americans - if we were able do it in the past - you also can. Peace my men!!!
Astropata user talk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Astropata ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Aude. The problem from March of the insistent editor persists. (To refresh your recollection check here and here.) Your last advice to me was simply to keep reverting his edits, but I am growing uncomfortable with doing it six or seven times in the space of a month -- after this length of time, that approach begins to seem almost as robotic and unhelpful as the underlying problem. I will continue to do that if in fact it is the best course but I wonder if there is something else I should be doing (also whether this requires a blunter approach). Thoughts, advice? JohnInDC ( talk) 10:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/United Airlines Flight 93. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I was at your presentation yesterday. I just want to add couple of more points on the reasons behind why Egyptians don't write in Arabic wikipedia. 1st we noticed lately in other websites that when participants were writing in politics in English only few groups of people were interacting with them. But when they start writing in Arabic they get persecuted by gov. 2nd also Arabic people who can read English believe that the English content is more reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mustafaahmedhussien ( talk • contribs) 00:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind me asking, but why did you remove the POV tag, when the NPOV of the article is currently being disputed? Sennen goroshi ( talk) 18:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the barnstar. It is greatly appreciated. And no worries about the FAC. Like I said, I am happy to respond to concerns with the article; I was definitely was expecting some questions and/or problems. The process hasn't been too bad, but I spent several months running it through several peer reviews, etc. to make sure the article wasn't missing anything! I definitely understand that all criticism is constructive. Thanks again. Best, epicAdam ( talk) 21:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude,
this picture [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Great_Wave_off_Kanagawa.jpg ] was uploaded by you. I would like to know if you are the photographer as well? I would like to use the picture in a poster advertising a youth orchestra concert in Berlin/Germany. I am aware that the copyright of the painter has expired but I am not sure about the semi-commercial use of the photography. Can you help me?
Thanks, Robert.
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Hi I'm a user from the Catalan wikipedia ( Viquipèdia Catalana) and I'm migrating my count in other wiquipedias and I have seen that nobody is using "Canals" in the english wikipedia but I can't migrate that name so it maybe somebody has create it and isn't using it... and I want know if any administrator can do anything.
Thanks, Canals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.33.217.40 ( talk) 18:46, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I recently edited the Conspiracy Theories section of the Flight 77 article to include the "flyover theory" in the section, but it was reverted, citing "wikipedia is not a soapbox." That edit followed exactly the form and structure of the existing section, and included a link to interviews in the Library of Congress. Is it possible to add the "flyover theory" to the Conspiracy Theories section of the Flight 77 article? Facilitatetruth ( talk) 23:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Aude, I have a question for WP:GEOGRAPHY which I am going to ask you directly. I'm going to ask also at the Geography talk page, please sit back and watch to see if anyone else responds there.
Thanks for your attention. I'd prefer to get that RefDesk question resolved above all else. Cheers! :) Franamax ( talk) 03:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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Dear Aude, you added <ref name="prospect"/> on Mohamed Atta. It was a mistake. Please see this diff: [2]. AdjustShift ( talk) 18:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I see I was partially wrong, while I defend images like the flight record and driver's license of Atta - you are right that the MSNBC footage of the tower burning is inappropriate use of FU. Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 17:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to drop a line and say that your DC Homicide Map is awesome!
sohmc ( talk) 15:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether that guy should get a second chance. He sounds earnest enough. What do you, as the blocking admin, think? Sandstein 11:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
You told me you had added the times of the planes impacting but please refer to my commets on the 9/11 talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eenuuk ( talk • contribs) 10:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude,
I've a question about Mohamed Atta. Atta was completing Master's degree in urban planning before he joined Al Qaeda. Did he completed his Master's?
Have a nice day! AdjustShift ( talk) 13:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (154/3/2). I appreciate the community's trust in me, and I will do my best to be sure it won't regret handing me the mop. I am honored by your trust and your support. Again, thank you. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
Hey, thanks for taking the time to help clean up Khalid's article; I've always found him one of the most interesting of the hijackers (if you look back through history, Quadell and I wrote 95% of the articles on the 19 hijackers originally). I just wanted to give you a heads-up that it's difficult to track your diffs, so if you remove any information, I'd appreciate a tap; that way I can dig through my offline sources and see what I can find - my hard drive is filled with original PDFs, scans and the like -- so I might have a document you haven't seen, or a link that I never included as a ref. (The articles were "written" before the WMF ruling on references - so are under-reffed). Cheers, Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 01:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Any chance you could convert [ this video to OGG so it could be included in the five relevant articles; rather than just the single screenshot? I think people would find it much more "interesting". Only trouble is copyright on a security camera film; I've seen arguments it doesn't exist since it lacks creativity, but we may be pushing a grey line. Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 02:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude, I believe that the "See also" section on our September 11 attacks article is unnecessary. You've made more edits to our 9/11 article that any other person in this planet. :-) I'm curious to know your thoughts on this matter. Have a nice day! :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 14:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
A few questions, since I'm glad to see attention being paid to cleaning these up. Often the "information" is there, but it's uncited, poorly worded, confusing or given undue weight.
You should know that I messed around with the categories in order to get the importance categories working. I then unintentionally screwed up every other category and I know that you'll notice it and tell me so I figured i'd tell you first. I would stay up and fix it tonight but I don't feel all that well so i'll look at it tomorrow and fix it. Sorry for messing up the categories but I think that the automatic update might be slow when concerning the templates. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 01:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Aude. I'd be happy to look at the Khalid al-Mihdhar article. I'll let you know about any issues I encounter. momoricks talk 03:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
First of all, kudos on your writing/copyediting skills. Wikipedia definitely needs more people like you. Second, I went through the article and fixed small stuff like grammar, spelling, punctuation, wikilinks, etc. It's 4:30 a.m. here so I'm gonna hit the sack, but I'll post the things that need to addressed on the article talk page later today. In the meantime, I'd suggest using WebCite to archive all of the online sources to keep them from being lost if the URLs change, are deleted, etc. Best, momoricks talk 11:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I posted my "report" on the article talk page. Best of luck! momoricks talk 13:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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For your tireless work on Khalid al-Mihdhar to bring it up to FA status. momoricks talk 00:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
Just a note to remind you that all of your comments about the Featured article candidate of PNC Park have been addressed. If there is anything else that you feel needs attention please let me know. Thank you! Black ngold29 03:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I couldn't help you. Classes are killing me right now. One notable issue issue is Ziad Jarrah. Technically an FA article, but I think a look-through will undeniably show you it's really not up to 2008 FA standards. Whenever I get around to reading Looming Tower and Prefect Soldiers, I'll definately help out. -- Veggy ( talk) 19:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
On a separate note, was Ziad Jarrah married to his girlfriend? Inside 9/11 purports he was, but I can't find anything in the article. -- Veggy ( talk) 17:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I think they had an informal and unofficial ceremony in Germany, but didn't involve his family. This needs explanation in his article, along with appropriate sources. In The Perfect Soldiers, Terry McDermott wrote
In the spring [1999], Ziad Jarrah married Aysel Sengün at a ceremony at Al Nur Mosque in Hamburg... Jarrah’s wedding must have been a desultory affair. It was done over Aysel’s objections not at Al Quds, where Jarrah worshipped, but at the Tabligh mosque. It was almost as if he were trying to hide the event. Neither family was informed, before or after. It was clear the wedding was intended to do little more than placate Jarrah’s friends, or perhaps his conscience... The couple never registered the marriage with the state, and Aysel said she didn’t consider it genuine. It was real enough, however, that she insisted the two of them sign a contract beforehand that specified she could continue her medical studies.
-- Aude ( talk) 19:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Not to continue bugging you, but an annoying issue is the contradictions that sources make. For example, I was looking over Jarrah being pulled over 2 days before the attacks. One source says it was near Pikesville, Maryland (which would make it on I-695) while another says somewhere in Cecil County, Maryland on I-95. Inside 9/11 says Pikesville, but it was almost definitely in Cecil County from what I've read. Anyways, it just serves to confuse people and encourage CTs. -- Veggy ( talk) 23:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi again, Aude. Thank you for the advice. It is much appreciated. On a different note, I'd be happy to copyedit any other articles you are working on. Best regards, momoricks talk 00:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you deleted pretty much the entire Discussion page for this issue, thereby ending many on-going issues being discussed on improving the article. I was wondering what your reasoning was in doing this and if it was acceptable by Wikipedia. I see no such message to the editors on the Discussion page. Neurolanis ( talk) 17:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Neurolanis ( talk) 19:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to say good work you've been doing to improve World Trade Center. I watchlisted it a few days ago, and you have been improving that article all day! Is there anything I can help with? I'll see if I can help or not. Yours, – RyanCross ( talk) 06:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Aude. I hope you don't mind me turning to you with my questions related to Wikipedia policies and procedures. I have the Serial killer article on my watchlist, and it was vandalized today by an anonymous IP user. Another Wiki editor reverted it and placed a Level 4im template on the user page, although it appears to be the first time this has happened. I have two questions related to this: 1) is this an appropriate template to use for a first-time vandal? and 2) can any Wikipedia editor threaten to block a vandal or does it need to be an administrator?
Thanks in advance, -- momoricks talk 04:59, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Aude, I'm thinking about coming back to editing, but I'm still banned from the 9/11 related articles. (I'm talking to Jehochman and John about possible conditions). I notice activity is picking up again and I'm pleased to see you at the forefront. Perhaps one way to decide whether or not my presence would be constructive is to think about that question of whether the collapse was a "surprise". I think the NCE quote (which I put in) is accurate. I feel supported by Bazant's much later assessment:
This seems very much at odds with your suggestion that it was the attacks themselves that surprised engineers, not the response of the buildings to them. Ronald Hamburger, who contributed to the investigations, reacted in the same way as NCE. '"I was very surprised," said Mr. Hamburger. The buildings "certainly did not do as well as I would have hoped."' (PDF here.) On the standing interpretation of my work here, this kind of observation would probably be seen as POV-pushing and if you agree with that asssessment my time here is likely to be short. But isn't this the very thing your literature search would turn up anyway?-- Thomas Basboll ( talk) 19:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I was actually asking for your personal opinion. I.e., is the discussion we're having here (which belongs on the article's talk page) worth your time? Or do you interpret my support for NCE's "surprised" reaction (i.e., it was "unthinkable") as POV pushing.-- Thomas Basboll ( talk) 18:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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The sourcing for the information from Illuminatus! is valid, and information (with more to be added) about the Pentagon in popular culture is a damned sight more interesting to readers than a useless list of what vendors are in the food court!
You don't own the article. -- Davidkevin ( talk) 15:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude,
I'm commenting on this edit. Your rationale was there should be no left align images directly beneath section headings per WP:MOS#Images. I read WP:MOS#Images, and it doesn't say that there should be no left align images directly beneath section headings. It only says that there should be no left-aligned images directly below subsection-level (=== or greater) headings. Did I missed something? I think no guideline says that left align images shouldn't be directly beneath section headings. I think you should analyze this.
Have a nice day! :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 18:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I think your approach is practical. And congratulations for developing the Khalid al-Mihdhar article into a featured article. It was a wonderful work. And thanks for starting and developing the Main Navy and Munitions Buildings article. It’s a fantastic article. Your article work is fantastic, and I learned many things about article building by analyzing your edits. I’ve started a new article called Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Egypt). You live in Egypt, so you might be interested in that article. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 05:03, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
I wanted you opinion on a matter. I have started reading parts of Perfect Soldiers but it doesn't seem to go into as much detail about some things as I wanted. What do you make of the event at Shuckums Bar? How come there is so much discrepancy among sources about this? Is there any particular source that covers this definitively? Thanks. -- Veggy ( talk) 04:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
BorgQueen ( talk) 11:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Aude - first, thanks for looking at this as an objective third party. I have put in this formal request to have greentealovers.com unblocked. In my defense I'd like you to note the followingL My site cites reputable peer reviewed journals for ALL its aggregated health information. Similarly it gets its processing and preparation information directly from the largest producer of green tea in Japan which it also cites appropriately on the bottom of every page (Some images and information are courtesy of ITO EN, Inc.). The question I have is why was my contributions and citations were good enough for Wikipedia for years especially in its early days when it need non-tech information, but now it isn't. Why was my reference to Tea History in China removed now (after YEARS) by OhnoitsJamie simply because it was moved -- not added. Most importantly, why did editor Ohnoitsjamie, after repeatedly being referred to the bias even by two other editors -- not act upon it? I seriously have to question the actions he took in this case and wonder if others have been also treated in an unbalanced way. I notice on his info page he talks about the numnber of times his pages have been hacked/abused. I have to wonder if it has something to do with the unbalanced way this editor treats contributors? Finally in light of your green tea page edits are references citations [3] and [8] really still appropriate by the standards you are using to qualify these references? comment added by Jpeizer ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
The procedure for merger is Wikipedia:Merge. It doesn't involve hitting a delete button at any point in the entire process. History mergers are something else entirely, and are only required in special cases. Have a look at the rampant confusion in that article's edit history that's there now. Please stop using history mergers for ordinary mergers. Uncle G ( talk) 23:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments about merging the article with the casualties article. I only am interested in a well written Wikipedia and don't want to discourage people from writing. However, I thought the survivor's article was just a paragraph and not really a good article. Now that information is preserved in a better article.
Chergles ( talk) 16:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
The reason i am requesting greentealovers.com be unblacklisted is the principal and the negatives associated with said blacklisting -- Greentealovers.com was a valid contributor to Wikipedia for years and wikipedia had no issue with the site when it needed that content to justify itself as more than a technical reference. Jaime blacklisted greentealovers.com because 1) I placed a reference up again when he refused to deal unbiasedly with the other listings like stash and celestial tea on the same page and 2) refused to discuss the matter further in also in violation of Wiki rules -- There is a cause and effect here. I'm no longer arguing with you as to if greentealovers reference should be cited on the green tea page because you have also dealt in a balanced way and deleted the other similar references as well. That was a valid argument I made to Jaime when similar citations existed there and he did nothing to remove them despite another editor stating a case for equity as well. What I am arguing is that since the blocking of greentealovers.com was done in a biased manner and my re-referencing on wikipedia was only to acheive a balance with Stash, Celestial etc references that it should be unblocked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.34.178 ( talk) 19:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I see there is sometimes strong debate about keeping or deleting an article. Terms, like notability, are cited.
Taking a step back, we are citing artificial rules that we have created. What if we banned the number "13"? Any article with a 13 would be grounds for deleted. "I vote delete because the person was born on January 13th." "No, the person could not help it but he did have 13 children."
What would happen if we did not have deletion debates? Clear vandalism and non-sense article would be removed. I am not advocating this but I seek to understand Wikipedia better and to examine our own rules. What do you think? Chergles ( talk) 20:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Hear, hear! Little Aude hit nail on head! What is Wikipedia about? [1] Have very own popcornmaker! Scoot over on couch, watch the show, share popcorn with 'zilla and little 'shonen (don't give ArbCom any). bishzilla ROARR!! 23:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
Hi Aude. As far as I know this kind of behaviour has never been accepted in the 9/11 pages: any significant change from estabilished versions must be discussed before being applied in order to check wheter there is consensus, and discussions should not be made by means of edit summaries, they must be made in the talk page. Don't you agree?-- Pokipsy76 ( talk) 16:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude/Archive9, In a 2008 arbitration case administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user working on articles concerning the September 11, 2001 attacks. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you. — Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (speech has the power to bind the absolute) 19:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
My apologies, but your latest violations forced me to seek the remedy for your unacceptable behavior and disregard to the community, you may find it at the Administrators' noticeboard. Tachyonbursts ( talk) 00:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Please consider joining the working group for the WMF DC chapter. Since we have a very active and very community oriented DC/MD/VA area group of Wikipedians, it only makes sense to develop it as a chapter, especially given the recent changes to the Board of Trustees structure, giving chapters more of a vote. Hopefully we will be either the first or the second officially recognized US Chapter (WMF Pennsylvania is pending as well), and hopefully our efforts will benefit WMF Penn as well. Remember, it's a working group, and this is a wiki, so feel free to offer changes, make bold changes to the group, and discuss on the talk page! I hope to see you there, as well as Wikimeetup DC 4 if you're attending. ⇒ SWATJester Son of the Defender 16:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
As someone who may live or work near Washington D.C., you may be interested - if you've not heard already - about the meetup scheduled for Saturday, May 17th, at Union Station. For details, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 4.
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Aude, first, let me thank you for your dedication to 9/11 articles and efforts to edit.
Second, I'm planning to put Flight 11 up for Featured Article status tonight. I just wanted your input on that. As an admin and editor of the article, how do you feel about the article's status? -- VegitaU ( talk) 04:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't want to start a new section, but I wanted your input on something. With Wikipedia being such a visible source, we can really make a statement with what we display. There are pictures of bodies found at the Pentagon found here and posting these could really open people's eyes. Especially those who say there were no bodies seen at the Pentagon. What do you think? Should we post these? -- VegitaU ( talk) 15:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I made a first pass on AA11. I have not touched the crash or aftermath sections yet. Will get to those later this afternoon. -- PTR ( talk) 16:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps you missed the part where the editor removed the CSD tag. Which, as you of course know, is blockable if the editor persists. He removed it twice and I warned him appropriately. Have a nice day. Bstone ( talk) 14:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I tried to respond to your comments at FAC. There are now more wikilinks and the lead has been quite radically revised, in a way that is intended to set off better the article's emphases and strengths. And further thoughts you had would be most appreciated. -- jbmurray ( talk • contribs) 08:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. Fritz bot has been approved at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/FritzpollBot for filling in a possible 1.8 million articles on settlements across the world. Now dabbing needs to be done for links which aren't sorted as the bot will bypass any blue links. and I need as many people as possible to help me with Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places to prepare for the bot. If you could tackle a page or two everything counts as it will be hard to do it alone. Thankyou ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hey Aude, check out the section entitled hello on my talk page and inform me at User:Redmarkviolinist/Talkpage2 on how I dealt with the questions that Xiutwel asked me. Cheers, ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line Review Me! 18:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Aude, were you planning to revisit Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/American Airlines Flight 77? Since you're an admin, I was wondering if you could look into Talk:The Pentagon#Article title; it looks to me like our article is mistitled, and belongs at Pentagon (building), but I'm hoping you know more about the actual name of the building. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 02:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't like the way of inputing more realistic point of view into 'conspiracy teories' - all more educated Americans already know the truth. Other people live not aware as they under the influence of propaganda. What we gonna do with this? On which side we are? All English wikipedia supports untruly facts as one checks another. This makes the official version very stable. Will we need to wait until the history will show the real true? But TRUE will not be thanksgiving to wikipedia. I know this mechanisms much better as I'm a Polish and I lived in such system of selfchecking many years. But finally truth won in Poland. I you can do it Americans - if we were able do it in the past - you also can. Peace my men!!!
Astropata user talk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Astropata ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Aude. The problem from March of the insistent editor persists. (To refresh your recollection check here and here.) Your last advice to me was simply to keep reverting his edits, but I am growing uncomfortable with doing it six or seven times in the space of a month -- after this length of time, that approach begins to seem almost as robotic and unhelpful as the underlying problem. I will continue to do that if in fact it is the best course but I wonder if there is something else I should be doing (also whether this requires a blunter approach). Thoughts, advice? JohnInDC ( talk) 10:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/United Airlines Flight 93. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I was at your presentation yesterday. I just want to add couple of more points on the reasons behind why Egyptians don't write in Arabic wikipedia. 1st we noticed lately in other websites that when participants were writing in politics in English only few groups of people were interacting with them. But when they start writing in Arabic they get persecuted by gov. 2nd also Arabic people who can read English believe that the English content is more reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mustafaahmedhussien ( talk • contribs) 00:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind me asking, but why did you remove the POV tag, when the NPOV of the article is currently being disputed? Sennen goroshi ( talk) 18:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the barnstar. It is greatly appreciated. And no worries about the FAC. Like I said, I am happy to respond to concerns with the article; I was definitely was expecting some questions and/or problems. The process hasn't been too bad, but I spent several months running it through several peer reviews, etc. to make sure the article wasn't missing anything! I definitely understand that all criticism is constructive. Thanks again. Best, epicAdam ( talk) 21:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude,
this picture [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Great_Wave_off_Kanagawa.jpg ] was uploaded by you. I would like to know if you are the photographer as well? I would like to use the picture in a poster advertising a youth orchestra concert in Berlin/Germany. I am aware that the copyright of the painter has expired but I am not sure about the semi-commercial use of the photography. Can you help me?
Thanks, Robert.
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Hi I'm a user from the Catalan wikipedia ( Viquipèdia Catalana) and I'm migrating my count in other wiquipedias and I have seen that nobody is using "Canals" in the english wikipedia but I can't migrate that name so it maybe somebody has create it and isn't using it... and I want know if any administrator can do anything.
Thanks, Canals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.33.217.40 ( talk) 18:46, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I recently edited the Conspiracy Theories section of the Flight 77 article to include the "flyover theory" in the section, but it was reverted, citing "wikipedia is not a soapbox." That edit followed exactly the form and structure of the existing section, and included a link to interviews in the Library of Congress. Is it possible to add the "flyover theory" to the Conspiracy Theories section of the Flight 77 article? Facilitatetruth ( talk) 23:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Aude, I have a question for WP:GEOGRAPHY which I am going to ask you directly. I'm going to ask also at the Geography talk page, please sit back and watch to see if anyone else responds there.
Thanks for your attention. I'd prefer to get that RefDesk question resolved above all else. Cheers! :) Franamax ( talk) 03:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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Dear Aude, you added <ref name="prospect"/> on Mohamed Atta. It was a mistake. Please see this diff: [2]. AdjustShift ( talk) 18:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I see I was partially wrong, while I defend images like the flight record and driver's license of Atta - you are right that the MSNBC footage of the tower burning is inappropriate use of FU. Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 17:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to drop a line and say that your DC Homicide Map is awesome!
sohmc ( talk) 15:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether that guy should get a second chance. He sounds earnest enough. What do you, as the blocking admin, think? Sandstein 11:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
You told me you had added the times of the planes impacting but please refer to my commets on the 9/11 talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eenuuk ( talk • contribs) 10:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude,
I've a question about Mohamed Atta. Atta was completing Master's degree in urban planning before he joined Al Qaeda. Did he completed his Master's?
Have a nice day! AdjustShift ( talk) 13:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (154/3/2). I appreciate the community's trust in me, and I will do my best to be sure it won't regret handing me the mop. I am honored by your trust and your support. Again, thank you. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
Hey, thanks for taking the time to help clean up Khalid's article; I've always found him one of the most interesting of the hijackers (if you look back through history, Quadell and I wrote 95% of the articles on the 19 hijackers originally). I just wanted to give you a heads-up that it's difficult to track your diffs, so if you remove any information, I'd appreciate a tap; that way I can dig through my offline sources and see what I can find - my hard drive is filled with original PDFs, scans and the like -- so I might have a document you haven't seen, or a link that I never included as a ref. (The articles were "written" before the WMF ruling on references - so are under-reffed). Cheers, Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 01:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Any chance you could convert [ this video to OGG so it could be included in the five relevant articles; rather than just the single screenshot? I think people would find it much more "interesting". Only trouble is copyright on a security camera film; I've seen arguments it doesn't exist since it lacks creativity, but we may be pushing a grey line. Sherurcij ( speaker for the dead) 02:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude, I believe that the "See also" section on our September 11 attacks article is unnecessary. You've made more edits to our 9/11 article that any other person in this planet. :-) I'm curious to know your thoughts on this matter. Have a nice day! :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 14:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
A few questions, since I'm glad to see attention being paid to cleaning these up. Often the "information" is there, but it's uncited, poorly worded, confusing or given undue weight.
You should know that I messed around with the categories in order to get the importance categories working. I then unintentionally screwed up every other category and I know that you'll notice it and tell me so I figured i'd tell you first. I would stay up and fix it tonight but I don't feel all that well so i'll look at it tomorrow and fix it. Sorry for messing up the categories but I think that the automatic update might be slow when concerning the templates. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 01:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Aude. I'd be happy to look at the Khalid al-Mihdhar article. I'll let you know about any issues I encounter. momoricks talk 03:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
First of all, kudos on your writing/copyediting skills. Wikipedia definitely needs more people like you. Second, I went through the article and fixed small stuff like grammar, spelling, punctuation, wikilinks, etc. It's 4:30 a.m. here so I'm gonna hit the sack, but I'll post the things that need to addressed on the article talk page later today. In the meantime, I'd suggest using WebCite to archive all of the online sources to keep them from being lost if the URLs change, are deleted, etc. Best, momoricks talk 11:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I posted my "report" on the article talk page. Best of luck! momoricks talk 13:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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Just a note to remind you that all of your comments about the Featured article candidate of PNC Park have been addressed. If there is anything else that you feel needs attention please let me know. Thank you! Black ngold29 03:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I couldn't help you. Classes are killing me right now. One notable issue issue is Ziad Jarrah. Technically an FA article, but I think a look-through will undeniably show you it's really not up to 2008 FA standards. Whenever I get around to reading Looming Tower and Prefect Soldiers, I'll definately help out. -- Veggy ( talk) 19:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
On a separate note, was Ziad Jarrah married to his girlfriend? Inside 9/11 purports he was, but I can't find anything in the article. -- Veggy ( talk) 17:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I think they had an informal and unofficial ceremony in Germany, but didn't involve his family. This needs explanation in his article, along with appropriate sources. In The Perfect Soldiers, Terry McDermott wrote
In the spring [1999], Ziad Jarrah married Aysel Sengün at a ceremony at Al Nur Mosque in Hamburg... Jarrah’s wedding must have been a desultory affair. It was done over Aysel’s objections not at Al Quds, where Jarrah worshipped, but at the Tabligh mosque. It was almost as if he were trying to hide the event. Neither family was informed, before or after. It was clear the wedding was intended to do little more than placate Jarrah’s friends, or perhaps his conscience... The couple never registered the marriage with the state, and Aysel said she didn’t consider it genuine. It was real enough, however, that she insisted the two of them sign a contract beforehand that specified she could continue her medical studies.
-- Aude ( talk) 19:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Not to continue bugging you, but an annoying issue is the contradictions that sources make. For example, I was looking over Jarrah being pulled over 2 days before the attacks. One source says it was near Pikesville, Maryland (which would make it on I-695) while another says somewhere in Cecil County, Maryland on I-95. Inside 9/11 says Pikesville, but it was almost definitely in Cecil County from what I've read. Anyways, it just serves to confuse people and encourage CTs. -- Veggy ( talk) 23:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi again, Aude. Thank you for the advice. It is much appreciated. On a different note, I'd be happy to copyedit any other articles you are working on. Best regards, momoricks talk 00:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you deleted pretty much the entire Discussion page for this issue, thereby ending many on-going issues being discussed on improving the article. I was wondering what your reasoning was in doing this and if it was acceptable by Wikipedia. I see no such message to the editors on the Discussion page. Neurolanis ( talk) 17:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Neurolanis ( talk) 19:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to say good work you've been doing to improve World Trade Center. I watchlisted it a few days ago, and you have been improving that article all day! Is there anything I can help with? I'll see if I can help or not. Yours, – RyanCross ( talk) 06:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Aude. I hope you don't mind me turning to you with my questions related to Wikipedia policies and procedures. I have the Serial killer article on my watchlist, and it was vandalized today by an anonymous IP user. Another Wiki editor reverted it and placed a Level 4im template on the user page, although it appears to be the first time this has happened. I have two questions related to this: 1) is this an appropriate template to use for a first-time vandal? and 2) can any Wikipedia editor threaten to block a vandal or does it need to be an administrator?
Thanks in advance, -- momoricks talk 04:59, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Aude, I'm thinking about coming back to editing, but I'm still banned from the 9/11 related articles. (I'm talking to Jehochman and John about possible conditions). I notice activity is picking up again and I'm pleased to see you at the forefront. Perhaps one way to decide whether or not my presence would be constructive is to think about that question of whether the collapse was a "surprise". I think the NCE quote (which I put in) is accurate. I feel supported by Bazant's much later assessment:
This seems very much at odds with your suggestion that it was the attacks themselves that surprised engineers, not the response of the buildings to them. Ronald Hamburger, who contributed to the investigations, reacted in the same way as NCE. '"I was very surprised," said Mr. Hamburger. The buildings "certainly did not do as well as I would have hoped."' (PDF here.) On the standing interpretation of my work here, this kind of observation would probably be seen as POV-pushing and if you agree with that asssessment my time here is likely to be short. But isn't this the very thing your literature search would turn up anyway?-- Thomas Basboll ( talk) 19:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I was actually asking for your personal opinion. I.e., is the discussion we're having here (which belongs on the article's talk page) worth your time? Or do you interpret my support for NCE's "surprised" reaction (i.e., it was "unthinkable") as POV pushing.-- Thomas Basboll ( talk) 18:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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The sourcing for the information from Illuminatus! is valid, and information (with more to be added) about the Pentagon in popular culture is a damned sight more interesting to readers than a useless list of what vendors are in the food court!
You don't own the article. -- Davidkevin ( talk) 15:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Dear Aude,
I'm commenting on this edit. Your rationale was there should be no left align images directly beneath section headings per WP:MOS#Images. I read WP:MOS#Images, and it doesn't say that there should be no left align images directly beneath section headings. It only says that there should be no left-aligned images directly below subsection-level (=== or greater) headings. Did I missed something? I think no guideline says that left align images shouldn't be directly beneath section headings. I think you should analyze this.
Have a nice day! :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 18:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I think your approach is practical. And congratulations for developing the Khalid al-Mihdhar article into a featured article. It was a wonderful work. And thanks for starting and developing the Main Navy and Munitions Buildings article. It’s a fantastic article. Your article work is fantastic, and I learned many things about article building by analyzing your edits. I’ve started a new article called Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Egypt). You live in Egypt, so you might be interested in that article. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 05:03, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
I wanted you opinion on a matter. I have started reading parts of Perfect Soldiers but it doesn't seem to go into as much detail about some things as I wanted. What do you make of the event at Shuckums Bar? How come there is so much discrepancy among sources about this? Is there any particular source that covers this definitively? Thanks. -- Veggy ( talk) 04:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
BorgQueen ( talk) 11:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Aude - first, thanks for looking at this as an objective third party. I have put in this formal request to have greentealovers.com unblocked. In my defense I'd like you to note the followingL My site cites reputable peer reviewed journals for ALL its aggregated health information. Similarly it gets its processing and preparation information directly from the largest producer of green tea in Japan which it also cites appropriately on the bottom of every page (Some images and information are courtesy of ITO EN, Inc.). The question I have is why was my contributions and citations were good enough for Wikipedia for years especially in its early days when it need non-tech information, but now it isn't. Why was my reference to Tea History in China removed now (after YEARS) by OhnoitsJamie simply because it was moved -- not added. Most importantly, why did editor Ohnoitsjamie, after repeatedly being referred to the bias even by two other editors -- not act upon it? I seriously have to question the actions he took in this case and wonder if others have been also treated in an unbalanced way. I notice on his info page he talks about the numnber of times his pages have been hacked/abused. I have to wonder if it has something to do with the unbalanced way this editor treats contributors? Finally in light of your green tea page edits are references citations [3] and [8] really still appropriate by the standards you are using to qualify these references? comment added by Jpeizer ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
The procedure for merger is Wikipedia:Merge. It doesn't involve hitting a delete button at any point in the entire process. History mergers are something else entirely, and are only required in special cases. Have a look at the rampant confusion in that article's edit history that's there now. Please stop using history mergers for ordinary mergers. Uncle G ( talk) 23:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments about merging the article with the casualties article. I only am interested in a well written Wikipedia and don't want to discourage people from writing. However, I thought the survivor's article was just a paragraph and not really a good article. Now that information is preserved in a better article.
Chergles ( talk) 16:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
The reason i am requesting greentealovers.com be unblacklisted is the principal and the negatives associated with said blacklisting -- Greentealovers.com was a valid contributor to Wikipedia for years and wikipedia had no issue with the site when it needed that content to justify itself as more than a technical reference. Jaime blacklisted greentealovers.com because 1) I placed a reference up again when he refused to deal unbiasedly with the other listings like stash and celestial tea on the same page and 2) refused to discuss the matter further in also in violation of Wiki rules -- There is a cause and effect here. I'm no longer arguing with you as to if greentealovers reference should be cited on the green tea page because you have also dealt in a balanced way and deleted the other similar references as well. That was a valid argument I made to Jaime when similar citations existed there and he did nothing to remove them despite another editor stating a case for equity as well. What I am arguing is that since the blocking of greentealovers.com was done in a biased manner and my re-referencing on wikipedia was only to acheive a balance with Stash, Celestial etc references that it should be unblocked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.34.178 ( talk) 19:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I see there is sometimes strong debate about keeping or deleting an article. Terms, like notability, are cited.
Taking a step back, we are citing artificial rules that we have created. What if we banned the number "13"? Any article with a 13 would be grounds for deleted. "I vote delete because the person was born on January 13th." "No, the person could not help it but he did have 13 children."
What would happen if we did not have deletion debates? Clear vandalism and non-sense article would be removed. I am not advocating this but I seek to understand Wikipedia better and to examine our own rules. What do you think? Chergles ( talk) 20:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)