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I noticed you added a bit on the economy of the Americas then self-reverted. I thought it was a good idea, so I added the CIA factbook GDPs to the country table for the countries (and territories where it was listed). I'm planning on searching out the rest, but could certainly use help if you're interested. (Heck, the article is in desperate need to editors whose interests extend beyond what it should be called). If you need any help, please feel free to ask me. Wily D 10:27, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I wasn't sure if GDP was included in continent articles. I will definitely turn to that as soon as I get a chance, I am very interested in beefing up information on each of the major continents and sub-regions of the world, especially the economic info. Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 05:51, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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Please use the talk page before further reversions. I am trying to engage you in a discussion on the talk pages of each article as to why you are reverting and deleting sourced material. Thank you. Regards Andajara120000 ( talk) 22:13, 22 December 2013 (UTC) I have opened up discussions on Talk:Ancient Egyptian race controversy, Talk:Population history of Egypt and Talk:DNA history of Egypt on this issue regarding the sources and added the reference to the peer-reviewed study it is based on http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=185393. As there are now two peer-reviewed studies, http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=185393 and Hawass at al. 2012, Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III: anthropological, forensic, radiological, and genetic study. BMJ2012;345doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bmj.e8268 Published 17 December 2012 on this issue referenced on all three articles there should be no further problems. Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 22:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at you changes to an article on my watch list, Prehistoric North Africa. I hadn't noticed before that the article has never had a proper lead. In fact, I think it had a bad start - the first edit was this which was unattributed (in the article though not in the edit summary) copy/paste from [1] - I've found the actual page [2] which I note is restricted to 'central North Africa'. I need to find out how to attribute that correctly, but that's another issue. The problem I'm hoping you can help with is the lead. I don't actually understand what you've written there, but the lead in any case should be a summary of the article following our guideline at WP:LEAD. It would be helpful if you could write a new one. Thanks.
Good work on replacing animism by the way. Dougweller ( talk) 10:12, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I will try my best! I have been very busy trying to fill in as many holes as possible regarding African history and culture on Wikipedia- a major undertaking of course! I have focused on North Africa, West Africa, Sub-Equatorial Africa and Middle Africa, and due to the diversity of peoples and languages and the diversity of African Traditional Religion to African Philosophy, African Languages, Ancient and Modern History, Regional Organizations. My most major and recent undertaking has been with African Philosophy I would love some other eyes on that too! I am thinking I should join one of the Wikipedia Africa project groups. Do you have any recommendations on the best one to start with? I only started this month so do not actually know very much about how different projects work and how to join. but hope to be involved in the long haul in contributing to as many African articles as I can. And yes in regards to the animism work- filling in holes regarding African Traditional Religion has also been a major undertaking: do you know if there is a Wikipedia project specifically on African Traditional Religion or how I could create one if there is not? I made some inroads on the Religion article in having African Traditional Religion considered as a separate section but it seems like it might be overwhelming to tackle the entire subject alone. There doesn't seem to be a lot of work/interest on African Traditional Religion and the African Diasporic Religions on Wikipedia...yet :) Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 10:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
In particular it still surprises me to see the confusion/elision between the traditional healing practices of African Traditional Religion and divination and its use for more nefarious purposes against others in many of the articles regarding African Traditional Religion. Anyone with experience (as either a benefactor or target of these practices)of courses knows how vast the differences are! Some major articles I would need to tackle are Vodun, Witchcraft (its section on Africa), Thakathi, Inyanga, Witch Doctor, Witch Children in Africa etc. It is amazing how negatively many traditional African practices (like in Europe and the Americas with Wicca) are still portrayed in some of the Wikipedia articles that are based on very outdated sources/views on religion. The monotheism-centered take on religion has been countered in many of the articles on the Indian religions but much work still remains to be done on religious traditions from other regions. I really hope to start a Wikipedia Project on African Traditional Religion so many of these matters can be cleared up. Any advice on how to do so (or if there already is one!) would be much appreciated. Would you like to join such a project? Do you have any background knowledge on or experiences with such traditional African practices? Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 10:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you kindly! I will get right to that. I still have much to learn, thank you for your guidance. Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 11:42, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
See my latest edit there, you need to be careful not to present opinion as fact. Dougweller ( talk) 10:17, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Don't you think that there should be one? Bladesmulti ( talk) 05:40, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Give me few minutes, I will be back to you shortly. For now, just remember that there are over 100 million followers of African traditional, so it's notable. Bladesmulti ( talk) 06:08, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Just made one, Check Template:Traditional African religion, obviously it needs a lot of changes/improvement, but we have just started. Bladesmulti ( talk) 10:09, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Without WP:Edit summaries it is often impossible to understand why an edit was made. I've reverted your edits at [[Bornu Empire], as you removed a clearly reliable source, you removed 'Muslim Empire' with no explanation and you removed List of Sunni Muslim dynasties although it is on that list. I don't understand any of this. Perhaps you need to use Talk:Bornu Empire now to explain what you've done. Dougweller ( talk) 07:29, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Andajara120000. I don't think that Rhapta was actually a Bantu settlement. Based on the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, the area's inhabitants, the Azanians, would appear to have been an early Cushitic-speaking group who lived there prior to the Bantu and Nilotic migrations' southeastern reach. They seem to have been gradually absorbed over time by the newcomers, and had essentially disappeared by the Middle Ages [3]. What do you make of this? Best regards, Middayexpress ( talk) 15:57, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for adding more categories for Irreligion in Africa I hope you don't mind the additions and alterations I made. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
If you are gonna write more information here is some info you might use.
A Gallup poll shows that the irreligious comprise 20% in South Africa, 16% in Botswana, 13% in Mozambique, 13% in Togo, 12% in Libya and Côte d'Ivoire, 10% in Ethiopia and Angola, 9% in Sudan, Zimbabwe and Algeria, 8% in Namibia and 7% in Madagascar https://worldview.gallup.com/default.aspx
Mozambique atheism
http://www.cso.gov.bw/index.php?option=com_content1&id=2&site=census
I hope you can get some use out of this information.
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Atheism in Africa should be redirected to Irreligion in Africa. Dwanyewest ( talk) 02:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a template to show the correct method to cite material for your irreligion in Africa articles. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Citation_templates#Examples
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Looks like there's huge account regarding the persecution of these followers.. Don't know why it's not highlighted yet, you think it should be? Found many interesting readings, [6], [7]. There can be a page about it, if deeply observed. What you think. Bladesmulti ( talk) 13:52, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Andaraja, you make a lot of interesting edits on wikipedia. It is very appreciated. But you seem to change the expression 'East Africa' for 'Southeast Africa' systematically in many of your edits without regards to the sources or even subject matter. Most of the time, your edits are not appropriate because the expression Southeast Africa under-represent or misrepresent the countries involve in the wikipedia articles/statements you edited. Southeast Africa exclude East African countries such as Ethiopia, Somalia, Uganda, Eritrea, etc, and those countries are often involved in the matter of discussion in the article. For example, you edited out East Africa on the Arab slave trade page: The Arab slave trade was the practice of slavery in the Arab world, mainly in Western Asia, North Africa, Southeast Africa, and certain parts of Europe . But in reality, Ethiopia, Somalia, etc were also involved in the Arab slave trade. This is one of the many examples, I noticed. It would be appreciated if you change East Africa to Southeast Africa only if it is stated by the reliable sources. Otherwise thank you for your good work. DrLewisphd ( talk) 02:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
I modified your edit: 'Mozambique in Southeast Africa' on the Islam in Africa page since Mozambique is not part of Southeast Africa. DrLewisphd ( talk) 03:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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May I kindly suggest that you use the preview button before saving your edits, so that in an article's history it won't have so many edits under your name. See the Ancient Egyptian Race controversy history for the numerous edits that I'm describing. Rod ( talk) 18:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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See Talk:DNA history of Egypt#Section on "Recent DNA Studies of Amarna and Ramesses III Lineages" moved here from article. your sources must explicitly back the statement that they "claim to have confirmed Sub-Saharan African origins for notable New Kingdom pharoahs from both the Rameses III (from 1186 B.C.) and Amarna (from 1353 B.C.) lineages:" You've been challenged on this now by 2 editors, time for you to show chapter and verse - you know about ArbCom so you know you need to discuss and justify these. There is also a discussion at Talk:Black Egyptian Hypothesis. Again you need to take part in this. Dougweller ( talk) 14:22, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I just removed your text dump of your evidence to WP:AN. Your WP:ANI thread was closed not even an hour ago. Please stop forum shopping. You've been advised multiple times on where to take this. Please listen to what others have told you. only ( talk) 23:59, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
You may be interested in the discussion on the Talk page of the Black Egyptian article. It's concerning pictures in the article. You also brought this issue up as point #4 on the Talk page. Rod ( talk) 23:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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Yalens, Λuα and I have reverted you on the DNA stuff. That means you don't have consensus. The studies don't discuss the Black Egyptian hypothesis - see WP:VRS which says "We need references that discuss the subject – directly, in detail." - that applies to some other articles as well. You haven't even responded to my trying to explain that your edit is WP:SYN and until it is demonstrated and agreed not to be that's another reason it shouldn't be in the articles. In a couple of articles it's also too trivial, although that's the least of the reasons. Because you've been reverted by 3 editors and you keep reinstating it you are running close to a violation of our policy on edit-warring. I don't think it would be a good idea for you to be blocked right now because of the ArbCom case (and only because of that), but if you continue someone, maybe me, is likely to ask for that. 3RR isn't an entitlement. Spreading it across all these articles doesn't help you either. Restoring it would be a bad idea - again, I am saying this because I don't want to see you blocked, although you probably won't believe me. Being blocked in the middle of this case would not be good. I'll add that a lot of the editors who normally frequent NORN are probably still on university holiday, hopefully they will be back soon. But do read WP:SYN. Dougweller ( talk) 06:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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I noticed you added a bit on the economy of the Americas then self-reverted. I thought it was a good idea, so I added the CIA factbook GDPs to the country table for the countries (and territories where it was listed). I'm planning on searching out the rest, but could certainly use help if you're interested. (Heck, the article is in desperate need to editors whose interests extend beyond what it should be called). If you need any help, please feel free to ask me. Wily D 10:27, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I wasn't sure if GDP was included in continent articles. I will definitely turn to that as soon as I get a chance, I am very interested in beefing up information on each of the major continents and sub-regions of the world, especially the economic info. Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 05:51, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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Please use the talk page before further reversions. I am trying to engage you in a discussion on the talk pages of each article as to why you are reverting and deleting sourced material. Thank you. Regards Andajara120000 ( talk) 22:13, 22 December 2013 (UTC) I have opened up discussions on Talk:Ancient Egyptian race controversy, Talk:Population history of Egypt and Talk:DNA history of Egypt on this issue regarding the sources and added the reference to the peer-reviewed study it is based on http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=185393. As there are now two peer-reviewed studies, http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=185393 and Hawass at al. 2012, Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III: anthropological, forensic, radiological, and genetic study. BMJ2012;345doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bmj.e8268 Published 17 December 2012 on this issue referenced on all three articles there should be no further problems. Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 22:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at you changes to an article on my watch list, Prehistoric North Africa. I hadn't noticed before that the article has never had a proper lead. In fact, I think it had a bad start - the first edit was this which was unattributed (in the article though not in the edit summary) copy/paste from [1] - I've found the actual page [2] which I note is restricted to 'central North Africa'. I need to find out how to attribute that correctly, but that's another issue. The problem I'm hoping you can help with is the lead. I don't actually understand what you've written there, but the lead in any case should be a summary of the article following our guideline at WP:LEAD. It would be helpful if you could write a new one. Thanks.
Good work on replacing animism by the way. Dougweller ( talk) 10:12, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I will try my best! I have been very busy trying to fill in as many holes as possible regarding African history and culture on Wikipedia- a major undertaking of course! I have focused on North Africa, West Africa, Sub-Equatorial Africa and Middle Africa, and due to the diversity of peoples and languages and the diversity of African Traditional Religion to African Philosophy, African Languages, Ancient and Modern History, Regional Organizations. My most major and recent undertaking has been with African Philosophy I would love some other eyes on that too! I am thinking I should join one of the Wikipedia Africa project groups. Do you have any recommendations on the best one to start with? I only started this month so do not actually know very much about how different projects work and how to join. but hope to be involved in the long haul in contributing to as many African articles as I can. And yes in regards to the animism work- filling in holes regarding African Traditional Religion has also been a major undertaking: do you know if there is a Wikipedia project specifically on African Traditional Religion or how I could create one if there is not? I made some inroads on the Religion article in having African Traditional Religion considered as a separate section but it seems like it might be overwhelming to tackle the entire subject alone. There doesn't seem to be a lot of work/interest on African Traditional Religion and the African Diasporic Religions on Wikipedia...yet :) Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 10:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
In particular it still surprises me to see the confusion/elision between the traditional healing practices of African Traditional Religion and divination and its use for more nefarious purposes against others in many of the articles regarding African Traditional Religion. Anyone with experience (as either a benefactor or target of these practices)of courses knows how vast the differences are! Some major articles I would need to tackle are Vodun, Witchcraft (its section on Africa), Thakathi, Inyanga, Witch Doctor, Witch Children in Africa etc. It is amazing how negatively many traditional African practices (like in Europe and the Americas with Wicca) are still portrayed in some of the Wikipedia articles that are based on very outdated sources/views on religion. The monotheism-centered take on religion has been countered in many of the articles on the Indian religions but much work still remains to be done on religious traditions from other regions. I really hope to start a Wikipedia Project on African Traditional Religion so many of these matters can be cleared up. Any advice on how to do so (or if there already is one!) would be much appreciated. Would you like to join such a project? Do you have any background knowledge on or experiences with such traditional African practices? Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 10:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you kindly! I will get right to that. I still have much to learn, thank you for your guidance. Regards, Andajara120000 ( talk) 11:42, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
See my latest edit there, you need to be careful not to present opinion as fact. Dougweller ( talk) 10:17, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Don't you think that there should be one? Bladesmulti ( talk) 05:40, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Give me few minutes, I will be back to you shortly. For now, just remember that there are over 100 million followers of African traditional, so it's notable. Bladesmulti ( talk) 06:08, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Just made one, Check Template:Traditional African religion, obviously it needs a lot of changes/improvement, but we have just started. Bladesmulti ( talk) 10:09, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Without WP:Edit summaries it is often impossible to understand why an edit was made. I've reverted your edits at [[Bornu Empire], as you removed a clearly reliable source, you removed 'Muslim Empire' with no explanation and you removed List of Sunni Muslim dynasties although it is on that list. I don't understand any of this. Perhaps you need to use Talk:Bornu Empire now to explain what you've done. Dougweller ( talk) 07:29, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Andajara120000. I don't think that Rhapta was actually a Bantu settlement. Based on the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, the area's inhabitants, the Azanians, would appear to have been an early Cushitic-speaking group who lived there prior to the Bantu and Nilotic migrations' southeastern reach. They seem to have been gradually absorbed over time by the newcomers, and had essentially disappeared by the Middle Ages [3]. What do you make of this? Best regards, Middayexpress ( talk) 15:57, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for adding more categories for Irreligion in Africa I hope you don't mind the additions and alterations I made. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
If you are gonna write more information here is some info you might use.
A Gallup poll shows that the irreligious comprise 20% in South Africa, 16% in Botswana, 13% in Mozambique, 13% in Togo, 12% in Libya and Côte d'Ivoire, 10% in Ethiopia and Angola, 9% in Sudan, Zimbabwe and Algeria, 8% in Namibia and 7% in Madagascar https://worldview.gallup.com/default.aspx
Mozambique atheism
http://www.cso.gov.bw/index.php?option=com_content1&id=2&site=census
I hope you can get some use out of this information.
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Atheism in Africa should be redirected to Irreligion in Africa. Dwanyewest ( talk) 02:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a template to show the correct method to cite material for your irreligion in Africa articles. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Citation_templates#Examples
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Looks like there's huge account regarding the persecution of these followers.. Don't know why it's not highlighted yet, you think it should be? Found many interesting readings, [6], [7]. There can be a page about it, if deeply observed. What you think. Bladesmulti ( talk) 13:52, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Andaraja, you make a lot of interesting edits on wikipedia. It is very appreciated. But you seem to change the expression 'East Africa' for 'Southeast Africa' systematically in many of your edits without regards to the sources or even subject matter. Most of the time, your edits are not appropriate because the expression Southeast Africa under-represent or misrepresent the countries involve in the wikipedia articles/statements you edited. Southeast Africa exclude East African countries such as Ethiopia, Somalia, Uganda, Eritrea, etc, and those countries are often involved in the matter of discussion in the article. For example, you edited out East Africa on the Arab slave trade page: The Arab slave trade was the practice of slavery in the Arab world, mainly in Western Asia, North Africa, Southeast Africa, and certain parts of Europe . But in reality, Ethiopia, Somalia, etc were also involved in the Arab slave trade. This is one of the many examples, I noticed. It would be appreciated if you change East Africa to Southeast Africa only if it is stated by the reliable sources. Otherwise thank you for your good work. DrLewisphd ( talk) 02:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
I modified your edit: 'Mozambique in Southeast Africa' on the Islam in Africa page since Mozambique is not part of Southeast Africa. DrLewisphd ( talk) 03:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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May I kindly suggest that you use the preview button before saving your edits, so that in an article's history it won't have so many edits under your name. See the Ancient Egyptian Race controversy history for the numerous edits that I'm describing. Rod ( talk) 18:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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(In regards to the Wikipedia:ownership issue of this collection of articles by about 5 editors- I would like some advice- on Ancient Egyptian race controversy, Black Egyptian Hypothesis, Population history of Egypt and DNA history of Egypt that has been going on since 2008 what can be done? I am frustrated and dozens of other editors have been frustrated over the years as well and I think it is an extremely serious issue that should be analyzed from the first development of these articles to date. Indeed the proliferation of so many articles on the same subject, all created by the same small group of editors, and not yet merged even after numerous calls for it is testament to this issue. Is there any serious review process one can undertake for this issue? As I am new to Wikipedia, I am not sure, but even if the letter of the law is being followed in regards to this group of articles and group of editors, I am sure the spirit of the rules of Wikipedia are not. This issue has deeply disturbed me and many other editors over the years and I fear it may continue to damage the credibility of Wikipedia on NPOV and neutrality on these topics and drive many editors and readers away. I say this because some of the versions of these articles-which have remained stable for months have included many misrepresentations and miscitations-as a perusal of the talk page articles shows, like on Talk:DNA history of Egypt#How could everyone miss this for so long? which have been left intact by this small cadre of editors, while constructive edit attempts have been stymied and stalled by use of various Wikipedia tactics that many inexperienced editors making good-faith contributions cannot navigate. I believe the spirit of Wikipedia has been violated overmuch in these past 5-6 years in the examples I have given.)
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See Talk:DNA history of Egypt#Section on "Recent DNA Studies of Amarna and Ramesses III Lineages" moved here from article. your sources must explicitly back the statement that they "claim to have confirmed Sub-Saharan African origins for notable New Kingdom pharoahs from both the Rameses III (from 1186 B.C.) and Amarna (from 1353 B.C.) lineages:" You've been challenged on this now by 2 editors, time for you to show chapter and verse - you know about ArbCom so you know you need to discuss and justify these. There is also a discussion at Talk:Black Egyptian Hypothesis. Again you need to take part in this. Dougweller ( talk) 14:22, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I just removed your text dump of your evidence to WP:AN. Your WP:ANI thread was closed not even an hour ago. Please stop forum shopping. You've been advised multiple times on where to take this. Please listen to what others have told you. only ( talk) 23:59, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
You may be interested in the discussion on the Talk page of the Black Egyptian article. It's concerning pictures in the article. You also brought this issue up as point #4 on the Talk page. Rod ( talk) 23:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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this is an example of inappropriate use of an article talk page, and you have done the same thing on several article talk pages. Please read and understand WP:NOTFORUM. Flat Out let's discuss it 04:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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Yalens, Λuα and I have reverted you on the DNA stuff. That means you don't have consensus. The studies don't discuss the Black Egyptian hypothesis - see WP:VRS which says "We need references that discuss the subject – directly, in detail." - that applies to some other articles as well. You haven't even responded to my trying to explain that your edit is WP:SYN and until it is demonstrated and agreed not to be that's another reason it shouldn't be in the articles. In a couple of articles it's also too trivial, although that's the least of the reasons. Because you've been reverted by 3 editors and you keep reinstating it you are running close to a violation of our policy on edit-warring. I don't think it would be a good idea for you to be blocked right now because of the ArbCom case (and only because of that), but if you continue someone, maybe me, is likely to ask for that. 3RR isn't an entitlement. Spreading it across all these articles doesn't help you either. Restoring it would be a bad idea - again, I am saying this because I don't want to see you blocked, although you probably won't believe me. Being blocked in the middle of this case would not be good. I'll add that a lot of the editors who normally frequent NORN are probably still on university holiday, hopefully they will be back soon. But do read WP:SYN. Dougweller ( talk) 06:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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