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Hi Xain36, I have reverted your edit to Zawiślak because it was created (and is tagged as) a surname page. I don't think that there are enough articles with names similar to Zawiślak to warrant a disambiguation page, and pages shouldn't be tagged with both {{ surname}} and {{ disambiguation}}. Leschnei ( talk) 13:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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FYI, you moved 1993 Aurora shooting before one week of discussion. Usually, one week should elapse before closing a discussion without WP:SNOW. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 15:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it's still very much being discussed. The other Aurora RM discussion was just relisted; so should this one. Please revert your close and relist. Thanks. -- В²C ☎ 19:11, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
@ Dekimasu: As a new editor, I need your help. Xain36 ( talk) 06:19, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
It is true that her brother is a volgger if you haven’t seen his channel and the episode where he says to jojo that he is a vlogger. Ilikehorses123457 ( talk) 22:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello Xain36,
This image was shot in NYC protesting company's treatment of workers. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.202.25.98 ( talk) 16:35, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! This image was in SoHo, Manhattan wikicommons category. And is new pic as it was shot in early Feb. Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.202.25.98 ( talk) 16:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Xain36! Could you please explain why for Sinhala language "The result of the move request was: Not Moved per consensus"?
Wikipedia:Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators#Rough_consensus says "Consensus is not determined by counting heads, but by looking at strength of argument, and underlying policy (if any). Arguments that contradict policy, are based on opinion rather than fact, or are logically fallacious, are frequently discounted."
I provided many mostly strong or medium pieces of evidence in favour of the move, one user provided evidence against that was "based on opinion rather than fact, or ... logically fallacious", one user provided anecdotal evidence in favour, another user provided anecdotal evidence against, and one user provided medium evidence in favour of the move. Here is my rough breakdown on the strength of the evidence presented:
Strong For | Medium For | Weak For | Anecdotal For | Inconclusive | Anecdotal Against | Weak Against | Medium Against | Strong Against |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Consensus reached three times before | ||||||||
Google Trends | ||||||||
Google Ngrams | ||||||||
Seven instances of consensus, attempted moves, and discussions | ||||||||
The New York Times | ||||||||
BBC | ||||||||
Encylopaedia Britannica | ||||||||
Media Wiki (Wikipedia) | ||||||||
Google Books | ||||||||
not yet in reliable published sources | ||||||||
WP:CRYSTAL | ||||||||
the correct term is Sinhala | ||||||||
Sinhalese is still the clear common name in English-language sources | ||||||||
The 'ese' ending is usually used for something that has relation to some proper noun | ||||||||
There is no such thing for Sinhala, the language name stands in itself | ||||||||
"Sinhala" is also the internationally accepted standard name, for e.g. by Unicode Consortium | ||||||||
Majority of the references to "Sinhalese" must come from old texts | ||||||||
5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
If "Strong" is 4, "Medium" is 3, "Weak" is 2, "Anecdotal" is 1, "Inconclusive" is 0, "For" is positive, and "Against" is negative, the total is 20 + 9 + 4 + 2 + 0 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 = 32 on a scale from -68 to 68, or re-scaled from 0 to 100: 73.5. On just this evidence, it is almost 3:1 in favour of the move. Maybe these weights should be more like [10, 6, 3, 1, 0, -1, -3, -6, -10], but that doesn't change the final figures by enough to make a significant difference. If more evidence is needed, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Mozilla, Unicode, etc. only call the language "Sinhala". The International Standards Organisation (ISO) says "Sinhala" is the primary name, "Sinhalese" is the secondary name. The language organisations Glottolog (a main article reference), Linguasphere (another main article reference), WALS, Ethnologue, and Omniglot all call it "Sinhala", sometimes recognising "Sinhalese" as an alternate name. Of course, you could disagree with the strengths of some of the evidence, but I don't think it's possible to reasonably reclassify enough evidence to support "Sinhalese" over "Sinhala", or even decide that it's inconclusive overall.
It seems pretty clear to me that the consensus was For, not Against. If my reasoning is wrong, I'd like to have it explained to me. Danielklein ( talk) 04:39, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
shows the ratio of "Sinhala": "Sinhalese" in searches was 4:1 in 2004, increasing to greater than 80:1 since October 2015. No country had fewer searches for "Sinhala" than "Sinhalese", with ratios varying from 8:1 (Canada and the US) to 99:1 or greater (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Oman, Italy, Japan). But please see this example: Bengali has known natively/endonym as Bangla. In Google trends, Bangla is most searched on Google. But it doesn't mean we need to change the name of the Article. Bangla and Sinhala are known for native languages and Bengali and Sinhalese is known or written as English-language. Simple. Xain36 { talk} 06:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Xain36. Multiple people are complaining about some of your RM closes. As an editor with limited experience I advise you to stick to closing RM discussions where consensus of the participants is nearly unanimous. — В²C ☎ 15:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
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Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | → | Archive 5 |
Hello, Xain36, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
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Hello, I'm
Shellwood. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of
your recent contributions —specifically
this edit to
Mulberry Violence— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the
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Shellwood (
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09:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Xain36, I have reverted your edit to Zawiślak because it was created (and is tagged as) a surname page. I don't think that there are enough articles with names similar to Zawiślak to warrant a disambiguation page, and pages shouldn't be tagged with both {{ surname}} and {{ disambiguation}}. Leschnei ( talk) 13:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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FYI, you moved 1993 Aurora shooting before one week of discussion. Usually, one week should elapse before closing a discussion without WP:SNOW. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 15:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it's still very much being discussed. The other Aurora RM discussion was just relisted; so should this one. Please revert your close and relist. Thanks. -- В²C ☎ 19:11, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
@ Dekimasu: As a new editor, I need your help. Xain36 ( talk) 06:19, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
It is true that her brother is a volgger if you haven’t seen his channel and the episode where he says to jojo that he is a vlogger. Ilikehorses123457 ( talk) 22:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello Xain36,
This image was shot in NYC protesting company's treatment of workers. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.202.25.98 ( talk) 16:35, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! This image was in SoHo, Manhattan wikicommons category. And is new pic as it was shot in early Feb. Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.202.25.98 ( talk) 16:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
tlb
(Tobelo), thanks
User:Mbch331! (
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Hi Xain36! Could you please explain why for Sinhala language "The result of the move request was: Not Moved per consensus"?
Wikipedia:Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators#Rough_consensus says "Consensus is not determined by counting heads, but by looking at strength of argument, and underlying policy (if any). Arguments that contradict policy, are based on opinion rather than fact, or are logically fallacious, are frequently discounted."
I provided many mostly strong or medium pieces of evidence in favour of the move, one user provided evidence against that was "based on opinion rather than fact, or ... logically fallacious", one user provided anecdotal evidence in favour, another user provided anecdotal evidence against, and one user provided medium evidence in favour of the move. Here is my rough breakdown on the strength of the evidence presented:
Strong For | Medium For | Weak For | Anecdotal For | Inconclusive | Anecdotal Against | Weak Against | Medium Against | Strong Against |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Consensus reached three times before | ||||||||
Google Trends | ||||||||
Google Ngrams | ||||||||
Seven instances of consensus, attempted moves, and discussions | ||||||||
The New York Times | ||||||||
BBC | ||||||||
Encylopaedia Britannica | ||||||||
Media Wiki (Wikipedia) | ||||||||
Google Books | ||||||||
not yet in reliable published sources | ||||||||
WP:CRYSTAL | ||||||||
the correct term is Sinhala | ||||||||
Sinhalese is still the clear common name in English-language sources | ||||||||
The 'ese' ending is usually used for something that has relation to some proper noun | ||||||||
There is no such thing for Sinhala, the language name stands in itself | ||||||||
"Sinhala" is also the internationally accepted standard name, for e.g. by Unicode Consortium | ||||||||
Majority of the references to "Sinhalese" must come from old texts | ||||||||
5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
If "Strong" is 4, "Medium" is 3, "Weak" is 2, "Anecdotal" is 1, "Inconclusive" is 0, "For" is positive, and "Against" is negative, the total is 20 + 9 + 4 + 2 + 0 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 = 32 on a scale from -68 to 68, or re-scaled from 0 to 100: 73.5. On just this evidence, it is almost 3:1 in favour of the move. Maybe these weights should be more like [10, 6, 3, 1, 0, -1, -3, -6, -10], but that doesn't change the final figures by enough to make a significant difference. If more evidence is needed, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Mozilla, Unicode, etc. only call the language "Sinhala". The International Standards Organisation (ISO) says "Sinhala" is the primary name, "Sinhalese" is the secondary name. The language organisations Glottolog (a main article reference), Linguasphere (another main article reference), WALS, Ethnologue, and Omniglot all call it "Sinhala", sometimes recognising "Sinhalese" as an alternate name. Of course, you could disagree with the strengths of some of the evidence, but I don't think it's possible to reasonably reclassify enough evidence to support "Sinhalese" over "Sinhala", or even decide that it's inconclusive overall.
It seems pretty clear to me that the consensus was For, not Against. If my reasoning is wrong, I'd like to have it explained to me. Danielklein ( talk) 04:39, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
shows the ratio of "Sinhala": "Sinhalese" in searches was 4:1 in 2004, increasing to greater than 80:1 since October 2015. No country had fewer searches for "Sinhala" than "Sinhalese", with ratios varying from 8:1 (Canada and the US) to 99:1 or greater (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Oman, Italy, Japan). But please see this example: Bengali has known natively/endonym as Bangla. In Google trends, Bangla is most searched on Google. But it doesn't mean we need to change the name of the Article. Bangla and Sinhala are known for native languages and Bengali and Sinhalese is known or written as English-language. Simple. Xain36 { talk} 06:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
mw.wikibase.entity:formatStatements
or the #statements
parser function will now have it displayed using
a Kartographer <maplink>
if available. In case of bug or question, feel free to ask in
phab:T210926. Thanks to Tpt for the change!You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
Hi Xain36. Multiple people are complaining about some of your RM closes. As an editor with limited experience I advise you to stick to closing RM discussions where consensus of the participants is nearly unanimous. — В²C ☎ 15:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.