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Thank you for your excellent work on a Simplified MOS. You may be interested in the discussion here related to MOS issues. LittleBen ( talk) 02:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
You should see the following given it has two lins in the title: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language&pe=1&#Have_an_Arabic_speaker_translate_this_Qadafi_capture_video μηδείς ( talk) 04:08, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Regarding your recent suggestions at the MoS, would you be willing to look and participate in the Sub-sectioning discussion going on at Australian Cattle Dog 842U ( talk) 14:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Your recent improvements to the article is highly appreciated and I would like to convey my gratitude for your kindness. I look forward to a critical commentary from you on the quality of the article and for further improvements please. Thanking you AshLey Msg 07:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Corrections in Kerala: Sir, each change, you have made there, is a lesson for me. I'm not going to "leave you free", but to follow your contributions closely.:)Thankfully, AshLey Msg 09:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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Some of your pattern-edits are breaking language. Thanks, Nemo 07:33, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for putting the search box for the MOS on your user page. I used it to puzzle out the following, but if you have a moment I'd like you to check my sums.
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I reverted your edit at Wikipedia:Article wizard per WP:ANAL. I realize that it's not a guideline, however you still might want to review it. If you would like to rollback my edit... Go ahead! Thanks. Lighthead þ 19:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
You're missing the entire point. Look: Anal people care about little things as if they were big things. While an anal(logical) person is trying to find exactly the right phrase, everyone else has gone on to bigger and better things... What makes a person truly anal is a combination of attitude and the inability to let go of what everyone else thinks is "s***". — From said essay. Your edit is based on an obscure rule. That's it! And I do realize that you are correct, but like I said, that's not the point. Whatever. 'happie eddittttin' Just trying to get on your nerves with that last sentence. Lighthead þ 23:21, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
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In shepherding Parable of the sunfish through WP:DYK I've found it necessary to use the {{rp|pagenumbers}} template for repeated references. However, I'm finding that a line break can occur between the word or sentence being cited and the citation+page reference. To the best of your knowledge, is there a non-breaking-space character available and does the WP:MOS permit/encourage/require its use in order to keep words and citations together?
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Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Non-breaking spaces (version of
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ampersands can be tricky, when we wish to display encodings.Yes I probably removed 2 blank lines where they were not needed to remove white space. Feel free to put them back if they really are needed - but normally a question on my talk page would be sufficient to prod me to put them back instead of it looking like you were reverting something on a talk page. Yes I clicked the edit tab at the top instead of the edit link at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Hyphen examples to add a second example. Which edit link is used is not important. But it is not appropriate to discuss individual editor conduct at the MOS talk page - only the MOS. Apteva ( talk) 16:56, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I can see that you added Category:Bones of the head and neck to the articles Incudomalleolar joint and Incudostapedial joint. I have removed this category again since both are joints and no other joints are mentioned in the category. Instead I started Category:Joints of the head and neck and added both the incudomalleolar and incudostapedial joint. I Just wanted to let you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JakobSteenberg ( talk • contribs) 16:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
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I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. I'm not sure a list like this is suitable for inclusion. It might be better represented as a category. Legoktm ( talk) 04:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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Buonasera da Campora San Giovanni, Calabria,
le scrivo per salutarla e sapere come sta, oltre a questo le scrivo in italiano (chiedendole venia per non scriverla in inglese) perché ho un pessimo inglese, anche se ho fatto anni di studi scolastici, ma non praticandolo ne scrivendolo sempre ho alcune difficoltà ad esprimermi bene e in perfetto inglese. Le scrivo dicevo, per chiederle un suo aiuto (qualora lei volesse) per aiutarmi a tradurre e migliorare alcuni articoli su varie tematiche che tratto, diciamo quelle che attirano il mio interesse, quasi una tuttologia. Naturalmente la sua cortesia sarà sempre ricambiata con qualche traduzione in italiano e nei dialetti che conosco dell'italiano, dal mio nativo calabrese (con influenze siciliane e napoletane), al veneto, piemontese, lombardo, ligure genovese, un pochino di friulano e via discorrendo, parlo (o intendo) leggermente alcune lingue iberiche regionali come il mirandese, l'asturiano ed il catalano. insomma sono un asso nelle lingue neolatina, ma negato per la lingua base dell'economia, politica e rapporti internazionali, ovviamente nel comporre e nello scritto, ma da buon sud-italiano me la riesco a cavare all'occasione.
Dopo questa presentazione, come richiesta nella sua discussione in alto (ossia le sue regole di base della sua pagina di discussione), le chiedo sempre e comunque gentilmente se potrebbe dare una leggera allungata e miglioria all'articolo che le vado a mostrare: Radio Studio 54 Network, è una radio, anzi la Radio Ammiraglia della mia bella Calabria, ma in meno di 27 anni (dal 6 giugno 1985) ha già le trasmissioni che raggiungono in modulazione di frequenza nove province in cinque regioni del Sud Italia (Messina, Reggio Calabria, Vibo Valentia, Catanzaro, Crotone, Lecce, Potenza, Salerno). È anche ascoltata in molti paesi dalla comunità calabrese grazie al potentissimo e sempre aggiornatissimo streaming, le chiedo sempre e comunque gentilmente, la cortese traduzione e miglioria totale dell'articolo in inglese, prenda spunto dalla edizione madrelingua, o da quella francese o spagnola. Naturalmente sarò a disposizione come le ho scritto sopra per qualsiasi argomento voglia tradurre in italiano e nelle altre lingue da me elencate.
Certo di una sua certa e bella risposta, la ringrazio in anticipo di vero cuore, attendo sue notizie in merito. Le porgo amabilmente i miei cordialissimi saluti da Campora San Giovanni, con l'augurio che possa presto farci visita. Grazie mille ancora-- Lodewijk Vadacchino ( talk) 21:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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Good morning.
I would like to ask for guidance on hyphen use in constructions such as "mid-1950s" versus "mid 1950s". I see WP:SEASON prefers "mid-spring" but WP:DECADE is silent. WP:HOWEVERPUNC lists "mid-sentence" (albeit in dicta). Common use on wikipedia appears to favor the hyphen, but not universally. Your thoughts?
Many thanks,
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The article has been nominated for good article review. With regards AshLey Msg 08:02, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Buonasera e Buon Weekend dalla Calabria,
la scrivo per salutarla e sapere come sta, oltre a questo per augurarle un buon weekend qualora non ci sentissimo prima. Le scrivo anche per chiederle la cortesia di spendere 4 minuti del suo tempo per la rilettura e la miglioria di stile, morfologia e sintassi per quanto riguarda i due articoli che ho tradotto e migliorato qualche settimana fa da me medesimo, mi sono messo di mezzo impegno e su suo suggerimento qualcosa ho fatto (sperando non in un pastrocchio), con la cortese la ringrazio in anticipo di vero cuore per quello che ha fatto, fa e farà per me. Cordialissimi Saluti dalla Calabria-- Lodewijk Vadacchino ( talk) 15:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Just saw you'd corrected an article I put in a while ago. I thought at first it might be vandalism, but instead I learned something new! 60.248.2.163 ( talk) 12:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Your automatic corrections do not take into account the verb phrase "check in".— Ryulong ( 琉竜) 06:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Wavelength,
Sorry to quibble, but I'm pretty sure edits like this one are incorrect. As I understand it, "in" and "to" can't be merged in "log in to", because the thing you're doing is "logging in", not "logging". So whereas a captain might write a log into a book, we would log in to a website. I couldn't find a reliable source to back me up in a quick search, but googling "log in to" "log into" grammar shows this seems to be consensus in grammar forums and the like.
I wouldn't normally dispute something so small, but as you're making related edits on mass, it seemed worth bringing up.
Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 23:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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GorBlimey Prof. an' ere woz me thinking as 'ow I 'ad been speaking the Queen's own English all them years!
Apologies for the humour(?) I appreciate that I am probably out of my depth on this page, however I am curious. I note that you use the term 'verb phrase', but avoid the term 'phrasal verb', I know that some language experts dislike the term, though I don't understand why. As a teacher of English as a foreign language, it is an invaluable term, for whilst many phrasal verbs are simply the metaphorical use of ordinary verbs (eg look into = investigate), many others cannot be understood from their components (including check in). I therefore don't see why check in to a hotel is any less clear than check into a hotel, (both seem equally acceptable to me since the former is adding a preposition to a phrasal verb, not to a verb+adverb form). However, Dive into rescue a drowning man, is clearly wrong, since it is misleading. The website you point to (brians/errors), does not give any reasons for 'in to' being wrong, beyond a pronunciation clue (however, I have no difficulty in saying 'check in to' or 'log in to' etc. as distinct words). Is it possible to say WHY in+to is wrong, since it does not introduce any ambiguity?
Incidentally, logging into an internet account is not 'unlocking' it, unless one takes 'unlocking' to mean 'unlocking, entering and then re-locking behind oneself'. I think therefore that unlocking would be LESS clear, especially since it does have a distinct meaning of locking/unlocking a document, web-page etc.. Pincrete ( talk) 16:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC) .... Afterthought, it occurs to me that the older term in the UK for 'check in', is 'sign in' , therefore it would not be unusual when arriving at a hotel, to be asked to 'sign in (to the hotel register)' ... one could not meaningfully 'sign into the hotel register' (unless one were waving one's pen around in the approximate direction of the outside of the register) ... does this not illustrate that there cannot be a hard and fast rule about the appropriateness of in to/into ? Pincrete ( talk) 17:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I am still not convinced of the universal incorrectness of the in to form,though clearly there are many examples on this page where it would be incorrect, as it would be misleading. I know from experience that learning correct/standard use of prepositions is extremely difficult for non-native speakers, partly because their use is often irrational or counter-intuitive (check in with or check in at a hotel would make more sense if the meaning is register one's presence). Thanks for replying, even if I'm not wholly convinced. Pincrete ( talk) 15:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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I just noticed an edit of yours on Wi-Fi. "Log into" doesn't make much sense.
You made the same edit a while ago and it was reverted- [ [1]] Bhny ( talk) 23:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed the long discussion above. Anyway I find the edit jarring and google seems to support "log in to" 15 to 1. I don't want to argue grammar, so I'll leave it up to you Bhny ( talk) 23:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi - I see there have been two comments above about "Log in to a computer" vs. "Log into a computer". I have to say that I prefer the former. "Log in" is a phrasal verb - so you can say "I can't log in", or "After you log in, run xyz". To me, this is a different case from the common "into/in to" error that you are doing such a good job of correcting. However I am not sure enough (or concerned enough) to revert your changes. A couple of different cases where I did revert your changes were to do with ships - "put in at <a port>" is much more common usage than "put in to <a port>" or "put into <a port>"). Regards Mcewan ( talk) 19:37, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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Not every instance of "in to" is wrong, which you should have noticed from the page you link to in your edit summaries. If you will not or cannot differentiate between instances where "in" is used as part of the verb and where it is not, you should stop making this mass edit. - Rrius ( talk) 05:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hunting through the long grass to find all those "into" mistakes must be hard work!
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Hi, I noticed that you have been changing "way back" to "away back". In my humble opinion this is incorrect, but it would probably be better to revisit the pages concerned and delete the phrase altogether. – Fayenatic L ondon 15:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Please be more careful when making edits like this to ensure that the context isn't a direct quote, as in this edit. I've undone that change. Thanks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 14:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Wavelength. I invite you to feedback on my views in Talk:List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations, I'm encouraging all involved since January to do so. Adam37 ( talk) 10:29, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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This is an exercise in thinking outside the box. Or perhaps it's an exercise in being on a certain wave length.
We both know how List 1 is organised. But how is List 2 organised? I can assure you it isn't random.
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Hello fellow Wikipedian. I've noticed a couple times you've linked to The Watchtower Library Online. It is a very helpful resource. Just wondering if you are familiar with the witnesses in real life, or perhaps WOL is a tool in your reference desk toolbox. Schyler ( exquirere bonum ipsum) 00:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Wavelength.
I wanted to inform you that I've made several improvements on the Mr. Monk Goes to Hawaii page, but I must admit that I've actually come across some actual locations that match up to what the book describes. Now, I know Wikipedia's policy on image uploading is very strict, but I don't know enough about how to verify copyrighted images.
All I know is that I deliberately typed up online key points like 'Grand Kiahuna Poipu', and I got images of the Kiahuna Poipu plantation of bungalows, located in Kauai, which is where Adrian and Natalie stayed. Also, there IS a Belmont Hotel in San Francisco that matches the book's description. It's chain is called 'Extended Stay America', so this is the hotel where Adrian Monk faced off against Dylan Swift at his show. I would like to see both of these images uploaded onto the book page, as it would add credibility to the story Lee Goldberg wrote, but I also want to know how in the world both images are to meet Wikipedia's approval.
I've made a couple attempts to upload images, but when it asks for verication of its source, I can never figure out where to go next. If I don't have the required information for free use of these images, how do I find it? (By the way, I have my curiosity mostly because I saw a good image of Baker Beach, San Francisco on the Mr. Monk and the Two Assistants page.
Either way, policy or no, the bottom line I wish to express is that the Belmont Hotel described in the book is an actual hotel. It's a five-story building with a beige exterior. Naturally, I would guess any possible ownership of the image would be the hotel itself, but I don't know what else to say about the Kiahuna Plantation in Kauai. Can you give me some helpful directions on how these two pictures can meet Wikipedia's approval? Thank you.
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The following block quotation is related to previous discussions on this talk page, and summarizes my reasoning on the use of "log into" and similar expressions.
- If the computer expression "log in" is a " verb phrase" or a " phrasal verb", and has a meaning different from the sum of the meanings of its components, then the same is true of the computer expression "log into": it is a "verb phrase" or a "phrasal verb", and has a meaning different from the sum of the meanings of its components.
- Whether the computer expression "log into" is common or even existent is irrelevant, because in this matter logic has precedence over experience, although examples of usage can help some people to accept its usage.
- We are free to derive the expression "log into" from the expression "log in", just as we are free to add the suffix "ly" or the suffix "ness" to a newly learned adjective ending in the suffix "ive" or the suffix "ous", even if we have never seen or heard the word thus formed, and even if we are the first to form it and use it.
- The use of "log into" is logical, because the preposition "into" denotes movement to a new (interior) place, or change to a new condition, among other meanings listed at wikt:into#Preposition, and a person who has just logged into a computer or a website is then in it (in a symbolic sense).
- If people are introduced to both expressions ("log in" and "log into") simultaneously, then they probably would find it easier to accept both of them with equal ease.
- The foregoing reasoning applies to other expressions also: "sign into", "opt into", "buy into", "check into", and others.
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Here is a link to a record of my recent revisions to some articles that I found by searching for the word string worth it. For a while, my edit summaries included the following explanation.
After I noticed my error, I corrected my pattern of edit summaries, and then they included the following explanation.
This is from the perspective of someone spending or enduring Y to gain or retain X.
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Often people want to buy things for low prices and sell things for high prices, even if doing so means that someone else is buying things for high prices and selling things for low prices.
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Hi. It can readily be seen that "into" has been a commonly accepted compound word in the English language of its creators and extended Commonwealth family. That does NOT apply to the later American construction "onto". At page 268 of the New Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors (2005), we read: "on to (US and math onto)". The Wiktionary method (if such it is) of dealing with the differences between English and American-Webster spellings seem to me to be somewhat lacking in sense and utility, as I have begun to discuss there. I reverted your edit (in a non-American article) of "on to" to "onto" on the best authority. If you have a bot doing these ill-informed things, please ask it confine itself to American content. Cheers, Bjenks ( talk) 12:40, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for your excellent work on a Simplified MOS. You may be interested in the discussion here related to MOS issues. LittleBen ( talk) 02:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
You should see the following given it has two lins in the title: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language&pe=1&#Have_an_Arabic_speaker_translate_this_Qadafi_capture_video μηδείς ( talk) 04:08, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Regarding your recent suggestions at the MoS, would you be willing to look and participate in the Sub-sectioning discussion going on at Australian Cattle Dog 842U ( talk) 14:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Your recent improvements to the article is highly appreciated and I would like to convey my gratitude for your kindness. I look forward to a critical commentary from you on the quality of the article and for further improvements please. Thanking you AshLey Msg 07:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Corrections in Kerala: Sir, each change, you have made there, is a lesson for me. I'm not going to "leave you free", but to follow your contributions closely.:)Thankfully, AshLey Msg 09:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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Some of your pattern-edits are breaking language. Thanks, Nemo 07:33, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for putting the search box for the MOS on your user page. I used it to puzzle out the following, but if you have a moment I'd like you to check my sums.
I would appreciate any comments or clarifications.
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I reverted your edit at Wikipedia:Article wizard per WP:ANAL. I realize that it's not a guideline, however you still might want to review it. If you would like to rollback my edit... Go ahead! Thanks. Lighthead þ 19:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
You're missing the entire point. Look: Anal people care about little things as if they were big things. While an anal(logical) person is trying to find exactly the right phrase, everyone else has gone on to bigger and better things... What makes a person truly anal is a combination of attitude and the inability to let go of what everyone else thinks is "s***". — From said essay. Your edit is based on an obscure rule. That's it! And I do realize that you are correct, but like I said, that's not the point. Whatever. 'happie eddittttin' Just trying to get on your nerves with that last sentence. Lighthead þ 23:21, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
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In shepherding Parable of the sunfish through WP:DYK I've found it necessary to use the {{rp|pagenumbers}} template for repeated references. However, I'm finding that a line break can occur between the word or sentence being cited and the citation+page reference. To the best of your knowledge, is there a non-breaking-space character available and does the WP:MOS permit/encourage/require its use in order to keep words and citations together?
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or  
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Hi. I can see that you added Category:Bones of the head and neck to the articles Incudomalleolar joint and Incudostapedial joint. I have removed this category again since both are joints and no other joints are mentioned in the category. Instead I started Category:Joints of the head and neck and added both the incudomalleolar and incudostapedial joint. I Just wanted to let you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JakobSteenberg ( talk • contribs) 16:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
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I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. I'm not sure a list like this is suitable for inclusion. It might be better represented as a category. Legoktm ( talk) 04:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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Buonasera da Campora San Giovanni, Calabria,
le scrivo per salutarla e sapere come sta, oltre a questo le scrivo in italiano (chiedendole venia per non scriverla in inglese) perché ho un pessimo inglese, anche se ho fatto anni di studi scolastici, ma non praticandolo ne scrivendolo sempre ho alcune difficoltà ad esprimermi bene e in perfetto inglese. Le scrivo dicevo, per chiederle un suo aiuto (qualora lei volesse) per aiutarmi a tradurre e migliorare alcuni articoli su varie tematiche che tratto, diciamo quelle che attirano il mio interesse, quasi una tuttologia. Naturalmente la sua cortesia sarà sempre ricambiata con qualche traduzione in italiano e nei dialetti che conosco dell'italiano, dal mio nativo calabrese (con influenze siciliane e napoletane), al veneto, piemontese, lombardo, ligure genovese, un pochino di friulano e via discorrendo, parlo (o intendo) leggermente alcune lingue iberiche regionali come il mirandese, l'asturiano ed il catalano. insomma sono un asso nelle lingue neolatina, ma negato per la lingua base dell'economia, politica e rapporti internazionali, ovviamente nel comporre e nello scritto, ma da buon sud-italiano me la riesco a cavare all'occasione.
Dopo questa presentazione, come richiesta nella sua discussione in alto (ossia le sue regole di base della sua pagina di discussione), le chiedo sempre e comunque gentilmente se potrebbe dare una leggera allungata e miglioria all'articolo che le vado a mostrare: Radio Studio 54 Network, è una radio, anzi la Radio Ammiraglia della mia bella Calabria, ma in meno di 27 anni (dal 6 giugno 1985) ha già le trasmissioni che raggiungono in modulazione di frequenza nove province in cinque regioni del Sud Italia (Messina, Reggio Calabria, Vibo Valentia, Catanzaro, Crotone, Lecce, Potenza, Salerno). È anche ascoltata in molti paesi dalla comunità calabrese grazie al potentissimo e sempre aggiornatissimo streaming, le chiedo sempre e comunque gentilmente, la cortese traduzione e miglioria totale dell'articolo in inglese, prenda spunto dalla edizione madrelingua, o da quella francese o spagnola. Naturalmente sarò a disposizione come le ho scritto sopra per qualsiasi argomento voglia tradurre in italiano e nelle altre lingue da me elencate.
Certo di una sua certa e bella risposta, la ringrazio in anticipo di vero cuore, attendo sue notizie in merito. Le porgo amabilmente i miei cordialissimi saluti da Campora San Giovanni, con l'augurio che possa presto farci visita. Grazie mille ancora-- Lodewijk Vadacchino ( talk) 21:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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Good morning.
I would like to ask for guidance on hyphen use in constructions such as "mid-1950s" versus "mid 1950s". I see WP:SEASON prefers "mid-spring" but WP:DECADE is silent. WP:HOWEVERPUNC lists "mid-sentence" (albeit in dicta). Common use on wikipedia appears to favor the hyphen, but not universally. Your thoughts?
Many thanks,
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The article has been nominated for good article review. With regards AshLey Msg 08:02, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Buonasera e Buon Weekend dalla Calabria,
la scrivo per salutarla e sapere come sta, oltre a questo per augurarle un buon weekend qualora non ci sentissimo prima. Le scrivo anche per chiederle la cortesia di spendere 4 minuti del suo tempo per la rilettura e la miglioria di stile, morfologia e sintassi per quanto riguarda i due articoli che ho tradotto e migliorato qualche settimana fa da me medesimo, mi sono messo di mezzo impegno e su suo suggerimento qualcosa ho fatto (sperando non in un pastrocchio), con la cortese la ringrazio in anticipo di vero cuore per quello che ha fatto, fa e farà per me. Cordialissimi Saluti dalla Calabria-- Lodewijk Vadacchino ( talk) 15:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Just saw you'd corrected an article I put in a while ago. I thought at first it might be vandalism, but instead I learned something new! 60.248.2.163 ( talk) 12:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Your automatic corrections do not take into account the verb phrase "check in".— Ryulong ( 琉竜) 06:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Wavelength,
Sorry to quibble, but I'm pretty sure edits like this one are incorrect. As I understand it, "in" and "to" can't be merged in "log in to", because the thing you're doing is "logging in", not "logging". So whereas a captain might write a log into a book, we would log in to a website. I couldn't find a reliable source to back me up in a quick search, but googling "log in to" "log into" grammar shows this seems to be consensus in grammar forums and the like.
I wouldn't normally dispute something so small, but as you're making related edits on mass, it seemed worth bringing up.
Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 23:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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GorBlimey Prof. an' ere woz me thinking as 'ow I 'ad been speaking the Queen's own English all them years!
Apologies for the humour(?) I appreciate that I am probably out of my depth on this page, however I am curious. I note that you use the term 'verb phrase', but avoid the term 'phrasal verb', I know that some language experts dislike the term, though I don't understand why. As a teacher of English as a foreign language, it is an invaluable term, for whilst many phrasal verbs are simply the metaphorical use of ordinary verbs (eg look into = investigate), many others cannot be understood from their components (including check in). I therefore don't see why check in to a hotel is any less clear than check into a hotel, (both seem equally acceptable to me since the former is adding a preposition to a phrasal verb, not to a verb+adverb form). However, Dive into rescue a drowning man, is clearly wrong, since it is misleading. The website you point to (brians/errors), does not give any reasons for 'in to' being wrong, beyond a pronunciation clue (however, I have no difficulty in saying 'check in to' or 'log in to' etc. as distinct words). Is it possible to say WHY in+to is wrong, since it does not introduce any ambiguity?
Incidentally, logging into an internet account is not 'unlocking' it, unless one takes 'unlocking' to mean 'unlocking, entering and then re-locking behind oneself'. I think therefore that unlocking would be LESS clear, especially since it does have a distinct meaning of locking/unlocking a document, web-page etc.. Pincrete ( talk) 16:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC) .... Afterthought, it occurs to me that the older term in the UK for 'check in', is 'sign in' , therefore it would not be unusual when arriving at a hotel, to be asked to 'sign in (to the hotel register)' ... one could not meaningfully 'sign into the hotel register' (unless one were waving one's pen around in the approximate direction of the outside of the register) ... does this not illustrate that there cannot be a hard and fast rule about the appropriateness of in to/into ? Pincrete ( talk) 17:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I am still not convinced of the universal incorrectness of the in to form,though clearly there are many examples on this page where it would be incorrect, as it would be misleading. I know from experience that learning correct/standard use of prepositions is extremely difficult for non-native speakers, partly because their use is often irrational or counter-intuitive (check in with or check in at a hotel would make more sense if the meaning is register one's presence). Thanks for replying, even if I'm not wholly convinced. Pincrete ( talk) 15:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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I just noticed an edit of yours on Wi-Fi. "Log into" doesn't make much sense.
You made the same edit a while ago and it was reverted- [ [1]] Bhny ( talk) 23:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed the long discussion above. Anyway I find the edit jarring and google seems to support "log in to" 15 to 1. I don't want to argue grammar, so I'll leave it up to you Bhny ( talk) 23:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi - I see there have been two comments above about "Log in to a computer" vs. "Log into a computer". I have to say that I prefer the former. "Log in" is a phrasal verb - so you can say "I can't log in", or "After you log in, run xyz". To me, this is a different case from the common "into/in to" error that you are doing such a good job of correcting. However I am not sure enough (or concerned enough) to revert your changes. A couple of different cases where I did revert your changes were to do with ships - "put in at <a port>" is much more common usage than "put in to <a port>" or "put into <a port>"). Regards Mcewan ( talk) 19:37, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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Not every instance of "in to" is wrong, which you should have noticed from the page you link to in your edit summaries. If you will not or cannot differentiate between instances where "in" is used as part of the verb and where it is not, you should stop making this mass edit. - Rrius ( talk) 05:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hunting through the long grass to find all those "into" mistakes must be hard work!
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Hi, I noticed that you have been changing "way back" to "away back". In my humble opinion this is incorrect, but it would probably be better to revisit the pages concerned and delete the phrase altogether. – Fayenatic L ondon 15:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Please be more careful when making edits like this to ensure that the context isn't a direct quote, as in this edit. I've undone that change. Thanks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 14:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Wavelength. I invite you to feedback on my views in Talk:List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations, I'm encouraging all involved since January to do so. Adam37 ( talk) 10:29, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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We both know how List 1 is organised. But how is List 2 organised? I can assure you it isn't random.
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Hello, Wavelength.
I wanted to inform you that I've made several improvements on the Mr. Monk Goes to Hawaii page, but I must admit that I've actually come across some actual locations that match up to what the book describes. Now, I know Wikipedia's policy on image uploading is very strict, but I don't know enough about how to verify copyrighted images.
All I know is that I deliberately typed up online key points like 'Grand Kiahuna Poipu', and I got images of the Kiahuna Poipu plantation of bungalows, located in Kauai, which is where Adrian and Natalie stayed. Also, there IS a Belmont Hotel in San Francisco that matches the book's description. It's chain is called 'Extended Stay America', so this is the hotel where Adrian Monk faced off against Dylan Swift at his show. I would like to see both of these images uploaded onto the book page, as it would add credibility to the story Lee Goldberg wrote, but I also want to know how in the world both images are to meet Wikipedia's approval.
I've made a couple attempts to upload images, but when it asks for verication of its source, I can never figure out where to go next. If I don't have the required information for free use of these images, how do I find it? (By the way, I have my curiosity mostly because I saw a good image of Baker Beach, San Francisco on the Mr. Monk and the Two Assistants page.
Either way, policy or no, the bottom line I wish to express is that the Belmont Hotel described in the book is an actual hotel. It's a five-story building with a beige exterior. Naturally, I would guess any possible ownership of the image would be the hotel itself, but I don't know what else to say about the Kiahuna Plantation in Kauai. Can you give me some helpful directions on how these two pictures can meet Wikipedia's approval? Thank you.
Oovo ( talk) 08:00, 3 September 2013 (UTC)Oovo
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For being such a wealth of information. Everywhere I see your nick it's almost always preceded by useful links to resources that I never knew existed. œ ™ 03:43, 20 September 2013 (UTC) |
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You have been working on the User:Emijrp/All human knowledge page since very long ago, this barnstar is a little award. Thanks. emijrp ( talk) 23:24, 7 October 2013 (UTC) |
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The following block quotation is related to previous discussions on this talk page, and summarizes my reasoning on the use of "log into" and similar expressions.
- If the computer expression "log in" is a " verb phrase" or a " phrasal verb", and has a meaning different from the sum of the meanings of its components, then the same is true of the computer expression "log into": it is a "verb phrase" or a "phrasal verb", and has a meaning different from the sum of the meanings of its components.
- Whether the computer expression "log into" is common or even existent is irrelevant, because in this matter logic has precedence over experience, although examples of usage can help some people to accept its usage.
- We are free to derive the expression "log into" from the expression "log in", just as we are free to add the suffix "ly" or the suffix "ness" to a newly learned adjective ending in the suffix "ive" or the suffix "ous", even if we have never seen or heard the word thus formed, and even if we are the first to form it and use it.
- The use of "log into" is logical, because the preposition "into" denotes movement to a new (interior) place, or change to a new condition, among other meanings listed at wikt:into#Preposition, and a person who has just logged into a computer or a website is then in it (in a symbolic sense).
- If people are introduced to both expressions ("log in" and "log into") simultaneously, then they probably would find it easier to accept both of them with equal ease.
- The foregoing reasoning applies to other expressions also: "sign into", "opt into", "buy into", "check into", and others.
— Wavelength ( talk) 02:44, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Here is a link to a record of my recent revisions to some articles that I found by searching for the word string worth it. For a while, my edit summaries included the following explanation.
After I noticed my error, I corrected my pattern of edit summaries, and then they included the following explanation.
This is from the perspective of someone spending or enduring Y to gain or retain X.
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21:48, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Often people want to buy things for low prices and sell things for high prices, even if doing so means that someone else is buying things for high prices and selling things for low prices.
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03:10, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. It can readily be seen that "into" has been a commonly accepted compound word in the English language of its creators and extended Commonwealth family. That does NOT apply to the later American construction "onto". At page 268 of the New Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors (2005), we read: "on to (US and math onto)". The Wiktionary method (if such it is) of dealing with the differences between English and American-Webster spellings seem to me to be somewhat lacking in sense and utility, as I have begun to discuss there. I reverted your edit (in a non-American article) of "on to" to "onto" on the best authority. If you have a bot doing these ill-informed things, please ask it confine itself to American content. Cheers, Bjenks ( talk) 12:40, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia tries to find words that are common to all varieties of English. Insisting on a single term or a single usage as the only correct option does not serve the purposes of an international encyclopedia.
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