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Is there a reason why {{ Infobox South African town}} doesn't automatically generate the census citation and it has to be filled in using the "ref" parameter? I was going to go ahead and automate it but I thought I'd better check first with you. - htonl ( talk) 20:41, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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21:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC)Re Pomfret et. al. - thanks, I know what the problem is, it'll take a minute to fix. - htonl ( talk) 22:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your run of new South Africa articles about locations and towns. Your efforts to improve the encyclopedia and expand information available to Wikipedia readers is appreciated. Northamerica1000 (talk) 19:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC) |
Re this ("De Kelders" vs. "Die Kelders") - the census often gets the exact spelling of the name wrong, particularly with the sub places. It's not a 100% reliable source when it comes to naming. - htonl ( talk) 14:15, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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I notice you've made the same mistake a few times in the past three or four days, so I just wanted to let you know that our category is located at Category:Populated places in North West (South African province), not Category:Populated places in the North West (South African province). If you think it should be renamed to the wording with "the" in it, then you're welcome to list it for a renaming discussion at WP:CFR — but otherwise you need to make sure you're using the category name that actually exists, because the articles are left uncategorized and have to be fixed by someone from the categorization project if you use the redlinked (i.e. non-existing) version. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 20:15, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
So I've made some fairly big changes to {{ Infobox South African municipality}}, and I thought I should keep you in the loop. I've moved the data out of Template:Metadata South Africa and into subpages of Template:Metadata South Africa/muni. I've split up the various fields into different subpages, which makes the main template coding easier since it doesn't have to use #titleparts (except for the race and language stats). I've added code that automatically fills out settlement_type in all cases, and fills out the subdivision* fields, including listing the correct district municipality for local municipality infoboxes. In theory, typing something like
{{Infobox South African municipality |blank_info_sec1 = WC032}}
should produce a basically complete infobox.
Tomorrow, if I have time, I'm going to try to extend the code to automatically show the number of wards for a local or metro municipality, and a list of local municipalities for a district municipality. I'd also like to rename the parameter from "blank_info_sec1" to something more meaningful, like "muni_code".
I also don't feel that the name of the mayor is actually something we should be automatically populating from a metadata template. It's something that changes quite often, and upredictably. Everything else is something that changes rarely: area only every five years at a boundary redefinition; population and demographics only when there's a new census, and so on. The name of the mayor, on the other hand, is something that ordinary unskilled editors should be able to fix if it changes without having to learn how the templates work. I'd be happy to go through and add the mayor info directly to the articles before taking it out of the metadata system. How would you feel about that? - htonl ( talk) 01:08, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
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Please take a look at Talk:Kimberley, Northern Cape#Population of Kimberley. I believe the proper 2001 Census data would solve the issue. Roger ( talk) 07:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
I think you should move to without dab and if the dab is needed move to xxxx, Johannesburg.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:43, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, but a lot of them can also be moved withouth the dab. I think it would be better to move to, Johannesburg instead of Gauteng given that they are only small neighborhoods of the city... What do you think? I can try to get somebody to move them all if you haven't the time! You're doing an admirable job BTW, excellent!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Mm OK, but yeah the non needed dabs should be moved.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:14, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
The article you created refered to two locations called Avontuur, the town in the Western Cape and a subplace somewhere in Mpumalanga. I have removed all references to the subplace and added some additional details about the town. -- NJR_ZA ( talk) 13:52, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. Back in December you PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has now been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 14:09, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi there! I saw that you and Htonl have worked on the census data project on settlements in South Africa and I was wondering if you could help me with it on Afrikaans wikipedia? We have a TONNE of settlements that have nearly empty infoboxes and it would be nice to have a simple key to put in for census data :) I'll do the typing and adding that seems easy but I have to say I'm confused with how the whole thing works :) Thanks for your time Bezuidenhout ( talk) 21:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
I see FA potential in it. I would be up for working with you on it and attempting to promote to FA.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:09, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll try to look into it in the coming week, but I have a few GA noms which I'll have to deal with.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:26, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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Greetings and felicitations. Since you are one of the most (recently) active editors of {{ Infobox South African town}} (ISAT) (and may have caused the problem ^_^;), I thought I bring this to your attention in the hope that you can fix it, since I am not capable of doing so.
I recently edited the Simon's Town article (which uses the ISAT template) and found that it only displays two references, despite having several. This only occurred after the ISAT template was substituted for {{ Infobox settlement}}. Would you please be so kind as to look into this?— DocWatson42 ( talk) 06:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hello Underlying lk. Thanks for creating the new Arab television drama article. I nominated the article to be published on the Did you know section of Wikipedia's main page, but was informed that all paragraphs need to be sourced in the article (except for the lead) to qualify for DYK (see Wikipedia:Did you know/Supplementary guidelines). So, if you're interested in the prospect of this being listed at DYK, feel free to add more sources to the article. The nomination for DYK is located here: Template:Did you know nominations/Arab television drama. Cheers, Northamerica1000 (talk) 06:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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I'm sure the other editors on the Jordan article wouldn't be pleased to see all the well-cited and valuable info they added over the past year or so completely vanish. I tried merging what you had included and the original but for some reason that was blocked. Please be considerate to other contributors. I can see if the information was not cited or irrelevant but all of the information was properly cited and valuable to the article. Thanks so much for your help. 74.88.96.196 ( talk) 04:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
okay thanks 74.88.96.196 ( talk) 19:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
You absolutely did make edits that you masked with a misleading edit summary. The information you changed in the article should have been in a separate edit, and introduced controversial material without adequate sourcing. Therefore I reverted your edit. The bottom line is that your indication that you were [removing] "interlanguage links" while changing substantial information in the article is enough for me to make the decision to revert. If you want to re-add your edits, then how about explaining your edits on the talk page, or provide better sources?? Revmqo ( talk) 18:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia has become a website to falsify the Arab tribes, there is no impartiality in writing articles, because editors depend on sources that hostile to Arabs, for falsification of the famous persons of Arab, I tried to edit some articles but editors insist on distorting the Arab history.
They insist on falsification of Musaylimah and accuse him of being magician and of claiming prophethood.
You must find a solution to this problem, or we will take an action may be hard and severe.
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This was a mislick, sorry, but I'm not sure your removals were well justified. Those individuals were indeed born in Algeria, and as I recall, Berbers are only the remote origin - the vast majority of population identifies as Arabs, not Berbers (see e.g. CIA Factbook). Materialscientist ( talk) 06:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I responded at Talk:Algeria#Page_notice_about_the_use_of_French WhisperToMe ( talk) 21:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Underlying lk, thanks for your contribution on this article. But I think you have missed the thestatesman news. It clearly says "Many others, including policemen, were also injured when the supporters of Jamaat-e-Islami and its student wing, the Islami Chhatra Shibir, clashed with police and ruling party men at different locations in the country." and "According to officials, law enforcement agencies appeared to be the prime target of the right-wing activists.". Moreover from other references it is clear that Jamaat-Shibir was uniquely or even mostly responsible for the deaths. Thank you.-- FreemesM (talk) 13:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Dear Underlying lk, I don't understand why do you trying to put POV materials. This article doesn't discuss about ICT. There is another article named International Crimes Tribunal (Bangladesh) which deals with ICT. Moreover you are trying to put only blames about ICT, but in ICT article you can see there are many organizations, who welcome this tribunal. So putting only negative info both POV and irrelevant here. Again you have delete the photo gallery, but WP:Galleries says "the use of a gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images." Please explain your points.-- FreemesM (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, your recent change to the template Template:Rashidun Caliphs needs a consensus as i point out here on the talk page of the template. -- Ibrahim ebi ( talk) 22:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I agree with you about Islamic templates, there is also another problem with them and that is they have content. wikipedia manual of style mentions that templates should not do the work of article content in the main article namespace, please see Wikipedia:Template_namespace#Usage line 14. Kiatdd ( talk) 19:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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I used the wrong permissions template when I uploaded this image. I have resolved that problem. Thanks. Mgrē@sŏn 20:32, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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I choose to place various articles about places in South Africa into categories such as "Places in South Africa with White majority populations" and "Places in South Africa with Coloured plurality populations" based on the latest available statistics that Statistics South Africa has about these places. For provinces, racial statistics from the 2011 Census are already available, but for smaller census-defined areas such as main places and sub places, I still have to categorize them based on the 2001 statistics since the 2011 Census official results have not yet been released. For statistical purposes, Statistics South Africa divides local municipalities into main places (which are approximately equivalent to cities and towns) and further divides main places into sub places (which are like neighbourhoods or boroughs). I have been inspired to create these categories because Wikipedia has categories for jurisdictions in the United States with African American majorities, Hispanic majorities, etc. I have not created any categories for places in South Africa with Black majorities because South Africa's overall population has a Black majority, so any particular places in South Africa with Black majorites would not be statistically significant to the country's demographics. I really hope you will reconsider deleting all these categories I have created and populated. Also, I have not looked up every South African province, main place, etc. yet so there are probably many more articles about South African places that still need to be added to these categories.
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Hello again! Since you are one of the main creators of articles on Ottoman provinces, what is your opinion on the form of their name? Should we use the transliterated Turkish name or the common name? E.g. the " Sanjak of Selanik" or the " Sanjak of Salonica"? I think the general rule for historical entities is the former, as it corresponds to the "official" name as well, but there is a strong argument to be made for recognizability, i.e. "Sanjak of Gördes" is rather more obscure than "Sanjak of Corinth", and/or similarity, e.g. it is rather pointless to differentiate between "Rodos" and "Rhodes"or "Preveze" and "Preveza". For instance, when writing on Byzantine provinces, I generally follow a mixture of forms, both transliterated or anglicized, depending on popularity and ease of recognition, but I'd like to know what you think on this matter. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 20:46, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I am Jimgiby. I have detected two strange changes of maps concerning the Ottoman vilajets of Istambul and Edirne made by you. An old Ottoman map of Istambul vilajet with Arabic inscriptions added by you looks compleatly unclear. Eastern Rumelia was not part from the Edirne vilajet in 1900, but it was part from Bulgaria since 1885. Before that it was part from Eastern Rumelia. Thank you. Jingiby ( talk) 17:29, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
True, that- thanks for the correction: the article clearly indicates what it means by "turban"; perhaps it would be best to distinguish the garment with a different nomination entirely, as this is most definitely not what 'turban' connotes in English. Mavigogun ( talk) 06:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Underlying -- I noticed that you've PRODded a number of articles about foreign language Wikipedias. Do you intend to PROD all of them? I suspect that they mostly lack reliable sources, but I also think that this is likely to be controversial. I suggest removing the PRODs and creating a bulk AfD for the lot of them. Pburka ( talk) 02:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, Underlying Ik! I am EnglishEfternamn. I am writing just to let you know that I am assessing the claim made at WP:DRN about the Tanzania article with which you are involved. Regards. EnglishEfternamn *t/c* 00:52, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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Greetings Underlying lk! I noticed you recently had an issue over on the Tanzania wikipage with AfricaTanz, which you seem to have successfully resolved. As it happens, there's a similar problem with the same editor over on the HIV/AIDS in Africa page. The issue over there also has to do with figures and the user's intransigence towards them. For some reason, he keeps removing the changes in the continent's HIV/AIDS prevalence and death rates. He has also insisted on using a local source for Tanzania's HIV/AIDS prevalence rate, although every other African country uses UNAIDS' official figures. This is no trivial matter since the Tanzanian source indicates an infection rate that's around 0.7 percentage points lower than the official figure that UNAIDS cites for Tanzania. I've tried for weeks now explaining to the user why this is inappropriate. However, he's now basically avoiding my discussion page comments and knee-jerk reverting. Would you mind in your spare time having a stab at it? Kinds regards - Soupforone ( talk) 21:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
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this edit as edit removed massive amount of sourced content--
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Hi. About this edit, you removed content because the reference is not valid? Normally we should search for the accuracy or inaccuracy of the event before removing content. As you see in this article, that fact seems to be correct. Farhikht ( talk) 20:10, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Zimbabwe. Am far from convinced the approach you are taking (on many pages I see from the above) is the best way. Babakathy ( talk) 14:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Please, see this talk page.-- Metroxed ( talk) 10:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Underlying lk, I do appreciate
So although I'm commenting here on your editing approach, please don't take it as a personal attack but a suggestion on how as a community this type of work can be done better.
I am sure that as you can see from the comments you get back on this page, the summarisation is controversial, even if the material that is removed is not inflammatory in itself. As a result, I would encourage discussion first. One of the main problems is material that gets removed. Some of the material in unencylopedic, so it's gone, good. But summarisation, by its nature, removes valid, sourced material also. Whilst you have made the point that material removed can be put into other articles [8], it is very important that actually gets done. If material is simply removed and no-one notices/comments/discusses, then it's gone - very few people will dig back through history to find it again.
So as a general point, I would suggest that it is helpful (if not policy) that a major edit that removes material for the purpose of summarisation should be discussed first. This flags the issue up and makes sure other editors get involved and participate in work and makes it more likely material that is removed is transferred to the right place and not lost. Babakathy ( talk) 06:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Nyarota, Geoffrey (29 January 2010). "MDC has joined conspiracy of silence". The Zimbabwe Times. Retrieved 28 March 2010. "Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001". 2001. Zimbabwe: Housing policy built on foundation of failures and lies, Amnesty International, 9 August 2006. "Crisis profile: Zimbabwe's humanitarian situation". Alertnet.org. 26 July 2005. Retrieved 6 June 2012. "Zimbabwe: health profile". The World Health Organization. 17 August 2010. Retrieved 15 April 2011. "Country Operational Plan: Zimbabwe". The U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief. 28 September 2009. Retrieved 30 May 2010. "Diamond Industry Calls for Clampdown on Zimbabwe Smuggling". Rapaport. 12 October 2008. Retrieved 12 December 2008. Farira, David (4 December 2008). "Eerie silence at Zimbabwe mine". BBC News. Retrieved 6 June 2012. "Statement of the IMF's Mission to Zimbabwe". IMF. 2010. "Mugabe wants sanctions removed". UPI.com. 18 December 2010. Retrieved 21 August 2011. Kristof, Nicholas D. (7 April 2010). "Postcard From Zimbabwe". New York Times (Hwange). First Commercial Partnership Agreement between EU and 4 african countries, Madapolitics, 15 mai 2012 Cris Chinaka, "Mugabe deputy John Nkomo dies after cancer battle", Reuters, 17 January 2013.
"Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001". 2001. Zimbabwe: Housing policy built on foundation of failures and lies, Amnesty International, 9 August 2006. "Zimbabwe: health profile". The World Health Organization. 17 August 2010. Retrieved 15 April 2011. "Statement of the IMF's Mission to Zimbabwe". IMF. 2010. "Mugabe wants sanctions removed". UPI.com. 18 December 2010. Retrieved 21 August 2011. Cris Chinaka, "Mugabe deputy John Nkomo dies after cancer battle", Reuters, 17 January 2013.
is a US government source, and thus may be copy/pasted at will (with an attribution note) [9]. Materialscientist ( talk) 11:17, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Do you understand that erases everything he says Colombia's article. Perhaps you envy. If you are South African does not have to change the article of Colombia for who knows nothing of that country. I invite you to enter this page and see how is Colombia [10].-- Roboting ( talk) 21:24, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I reverted some of the changes you made to the Colombia article. Maybe next time instead of just wantonly deleting unsourced disputable information, you can take the time to do some research and change the information and add appropriate resources, or if you are not feeling up to it, you can also use the Template:Citation needed or Template:According to whom to show the problems in the statement. Be bold, not reckless. -- Theryx7 ( talk) 03:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Underlying I see you have cropped some photos on the Botswana page and done some work on the Angola page. Which means you show some interest in both the photo aspect of the WP and Angola. I find the photo of Luanda Bay extremely poor - small and lifeless. There are hundreds of better photos of Luanda in the archives such as [ [12]]. I have never uploaded any photos, but I am sure you would have no difficulty with it. I also have hundreds of great photos of Luanda etc., but find the process of uploading them to the Wikimedia cumbersome - if there is a way, I could pass them on to you. Best regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 13:50, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
no decision was actually made. The discussion was simply closed arbitrarily, with my last comment never responded to you by you. Just because you and that other editor (not many people if you notice) want to dogmatically say "French pronunciation should not be mentioned", and just because you want to water down the French involvement in DR's formation, etc, does not mean the discussion was completely over.
You never answered my last thing...which was:
^^^^^^Just to address the point you made above about the years of French rule being "long after" DR's formation. The formation and development is not just referring to the very very start and infancy and fledglingness of DR. It took TIME for DR to fully develop. You're gonna say that in the 1700's DR was 100% formed and settled as a nation, in complete form? I guess though it's a matter of interpretation. But it's not like French ruled over DR from 1899 to 1922 or something. (For example). That would be different. But it was much earlier than that. (Also, it's not like DR has been around for 2000 years or something...or even 1000.) But French involvement was somewhat early on. During arguably DR's overall formation. Otherwise why would the article have the "French rule" thing SO EARLY in the article?^^^^^
You never answered that. So I'll ask it again.... French involvement was somewhat early on. During arguably DR's overall formation. Otherwise why would the article have the "French rule" thing SO EARLY in the article? Gabby Merger ( talk) 23:40, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Underlying. We spoke recently - see above "Photos of Lunda". As I pointed out before, although I've been 'here' for some time, I have never really learnt how to use all the tools. I can reevert recent (last) edits, but anything else, I have to change manually. I see you have been at Portuguese Angolans, in fact the most recent edit was yours. In June some IP added the follwing "As black revolutionaries murdered, raped, and pillaged throughout the Empire, most of Portuguese civilians, only managed take with them their lives, a single suitcase and money as their remaining property, goods, and records of centuries were lost.", over and above other nonsense that he added in previous edits. Other than a manual job, is there any way of restoring the article? If not, I'll see about finding the time to do so. I am posting this on the Talk Page too. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 15:18, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I would like to message you via e-mail (not the conversation on my talk, per se; please keep the continuity of that), but you have not specified a valid e-mail address. GotR Talk 17:41, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please see WPSA discussion. Helen Online 07:42, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
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Welkom en Bloemfontein populasie info
Haai ik ....ons is in kontak met die munisipaliteit van Matjhabeng (Info@Matjhabeng.co.za) i v m die inligting wat jy deugegee het op wiki se Welkom (Matjahabeng) inligting.Die inligting wat jy deurgee is verkeerd en jy't nie die voorstede van Riebeeckstad en Thabong in gewerk nie asook ander.Plus die grense is in 2000 verander en die stad se inligting ( met populasies) het ook verander. Volgens die info wat hulle vir ons gestuur het is die inligting wat jy van die sensus 2011 deurggee selektief en moet verander word . Indien jy die info plaas soos wat jy tans doen sal n stad soos Bloemfontein se populasie ook moet verander aangesien die populasie van 256185 Rodenbeck, Langenhoven Park en Grasslands se populasie verteenwoordig en nie net die stad self s'n nie.Dit sal beteken dat +- 92535 van die totale populasie ( van bloem) verwyder moet word indien dit selektief hanteer word. Ek kan vir jou meer info deur gee indien jy jou epos adres verskaf . Kyk ook na die 2011 weergawe van : http://populationlabs.com/South_Africa_Population.asp . Weereens...kyk dat die voorstede van Riebeecstad en Thabong bygewerk is, anders is die gegewe inligting foutief.
The new info received is that the city's population from census 2011 , population 191341 - This includes Welkom's biggest suburb, Riebeeckstad and the Township Thabong. The cencus code is selective. Please read on the wiki page of Welkom the following :Demographics & History and City Design and notice that two areas are included. One can not in 2013 still segregate Thabong as not being part of the city. South Africa is now a democracy. Also note that Riebeecstad and Thabong do not have their own municipalities but is in the borders of the city of Welkom — Preceding unsigned comment added by HESM29 ( talk • contribs) 13:36, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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Is there a reason why {{ Infobox South African town}} doesn't automatically generate the census citation and it has to be filled in using the "ref" parameter? I was going to go ahead and automate it but I thought I'd better check first with you. - htonl ( talk) 20:41, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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Re this ("De Kelders" vs. "Die Kelders") - the census often gets the exact spelling of the name wrong, particularly with the sub places. It's not a 100% reliable source when it comes to naming. - htonl ( talk) 14:15, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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I notice you've made the same mistake a few times in the past three or four days, so I just wanted to let you know that our category is located at Category:Populated places in North West (South African province), not Category:Populated places in the North West (South African province). If you think it should be renamed to the wording with "the" in it, then you're welcome to list it for a renaming discussion at WP:CFR — but otherwise you need to make sure you're using the category name that actually exists, because the articles are left uncategorized and have to be fixed by someone from the categorization project if you use the redlinked (i.e. non-existing) version. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 20:15, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
So I've made some fairly big changes to {{ Infobox South African municipality}}, and I thought I should keep you in the loop. I've moved the data out of Template:Metadata South Africa and into subpages of Template:Metadata South Africa/muni. I've split up the various fields into different subpages, which makes the main template coding easier since it doesn't have to use #titleparts (except for the race and language stats). I've added code that automatically fills out settlement_type in all cases, and fills out the subdivision* fields, including listing the correct district municipality for local municipality infoboxes. In theory, typing something like
{{Infobox South African municipality |blank_info_sec1 = WC032}}
should produce a basically complete infobox.
Tomorrow, if I have time, I'm going to try to extend the code to automatically show the number of wards for a local or metro municipality, and a list of local municipalities for a district municipality. I'd also like to rename the parameter from "blank_info_sec1" to something more meaningful, like "muni_code".
I also don't feel that the name of the mayor is actually something we should be automatically populating from a metadata template. It's something that changes quite often, and upredictably. Everything else is something that changes rarely: area only every five years at a boundary redefinition; population and demographics only when there's a new census, and so on. The name of the mayor, on the other hand, is something that ordinary unskilled editors should be able to fix if it changes without having to learn how the templates work. I'd be happy to go through and add the mayor info directly to the articles before taking it out of the metadata system. How would you feel about that? - htonl ( talk) 01:08, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
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Please take a look at Talk:Kimberley, Northern Cape#Population of Kimberley. I believe the proper 2001 Census data would solve the issue. Roger ( talk) 07:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
I think you should move to without dab and if the dab is needed move to xxxx, Johannesburg.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:43, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, but a lot of them can also be moved withouth the dab. I think it would be better to move to, Johannesburg instead of Gauteng given that they are only small neighborhoods of the city... What do you think? I can try to get somebody to move them all if you haven't the time! You're doing an admirable job BTW, excellent!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Mm OK, but yeah the non needed dabs should be moved.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:14, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
The article you created refered to two locations called Avontuur, the town in the Western Cape and a subplace somewhere in Mpumalanga. I have removed all references to the subplace and added some additional details about the town. -- NJR_ZA ( talk) 13:52, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for this award Doctor! ;-)-- eh bien mon prince ( talk) 12:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. Back in December you PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has now been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 14:09, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi there! I saw that you and Htonl have worked on the census data project on settlements in South Africa and I was wondering if you could help me with it on Afrikaans wikipedia? We have a TONNE of settlements that have nearly empty infoboxes and it would be nice to have a simple key to put in for census data :) I'll do the typing and adding that seems easy but I have to say I'm confused with how the whole thing works :) Thanks for your time Bezuidenhout ( talk) 21:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
I see FA potential in it. I would be up for working with you on it and attempting to promote to FA.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:09, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll try to look into it in the coming week, but I have a few GA noms which I'll have to deal with.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:26, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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Greetings and felicitations. Since you are one of the most (recently) active editors of {{ Infobox South African town}} (ISAT) (and may have caused the problem ^_^;), I thought I bring this to your attention in the hope that you can fix it, since I am not capable of doing so.
I recently edited the Simon's Town article (which uses the ISAT template) and found that it only displays two references, despite having several. This only occurred after the ISAT template was substituted for {{ Infobox settlement}}. Would you please be so kind as to look into this?— DocWatson42 ( talk) 06:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hello Underlying lk. Thanks for creating the new Arab television drama article. I nominated the article to be published on the Did you know section of Wikipedia's main page, but was informed that all paragraphs need to be sourced in the article (except for the lead) to qualify for DYK (see Wikipedia:Did you know/Supplementary guidelines). So, if you're interested in the prospect of this being listed at DYK, feel free to add more sources to the article. The nomination for DYK is located here: Template:Did you know nominations/Arab television drama. Cheers, Northamerica1000 (talk) 06:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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I'm sure the other editors on the Jordan article wouldn't be pleased to see all the well-cited and valuable info they added over the past year or so completely vanish. I tried merging what you had included and the original but for some reason that was blocked. Please be considerate to other contributors. I can see if the information was not cited or irrelevant but all of the information was properly cited and valuable to the article. Thanks so much for your help. 74.88.96.196 ( talk) 04:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
okay thanks 74.88.96.196 ( talk) 19:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
You absolutely did make edits that you masked with a misleading edit summary. The information you changed in the article should have been in a separate edit, and introduced controversial material without adequate sourcing. Therefore I reverted your edit. The bottom line is that your indication that you were [removing] "interlanguage links" while changing substantial information in the article is enough for me to make the decision to revert. If you want to re-add your edits, then how about explaining your edits on the talk page, or provide better sources?? Revmqo ( talk) 18:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia has become a website to falsify the Arab tribes, there is no impartiality in writing articles, because editors depend on sources that hostile to Arabs, for falsification of the famous persons of Arab, I tried to edit some articles but editors insist on distorting the Arab history.
They insist on falsification of Musaylimah and accuse him of being magician and of claiming prophethood.
You must find a solution to this problem, or we will take an action may be hard and severe.
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This was a mislick, sorry, but I'm not sure your removals were well justified. Those individuals were indeed born in Algeria, and as I recall, Berbers are only the remote origin - the vast majority of population identifies as Arabs, not Berbers (see e.g. CIA Factbook). Materialscientist ( talk) 06:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I responded at Talk:Algeria#Page_notice_about_the_use_of_French WhisperToMe ( talk) 21:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Underlying lk, thanks for your contribution on this article. But I think you have missed the thestatesman news. It clearly says "Many others, including policemen, were also injured when the supporters of Jamaat-e-Islami and its student wing, the Islami Chhatra Shibir, clashed with police and ruling party men at different locations in the country." and "According to officials, law enforcement agencies appeared to be the prime target of the right-wing activists.". Moreover from other references it is clear that Jamaat-Shibir was uniquely or even mostly responsible for the deaths. Thank you.-- FreemesM (talk) 13:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Dear Underlying lk, I don't understand why do you trying to put POV materials. This article doesn't discuss about ICT. There is another article named International Crimes Tribunal (Bangladesh) which deals with ICT. Moreover you are trying to put only blames about ICT, but in ICT article you can see there are many organizations, who welcome this tribunal. So putting only negative info both POV and irrelevant here. Again you have delete the photo gallery, but WP:Galleries says "the use of a gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images." Please explain your points.-- FreemesM (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, your recent change to the template Template:Rashidun Caliphs needs a consensus as i point out here on the talk page of the template. -- Ibrahim ebi ( talk) 22:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I agree with you about Islamic templates, there is also another problem with them and that is they have content. wikipedia manual of style mentions that templates should not do the work of article content in the main article namespace, please see Wikipedia:Template_namespace#Usage line 14. Kiatdd ( talk) 19:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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I used the wrong permissions template when I uploaded this image. I have resolved that problem. Thanks. Mgrē@sŏn 20:32, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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I choose to place various articles about places in South Africa into categories such as "Places in South Africa with White majority populations" and "Places in South Africa with Coloured plurality populations" based on the latest available statistics that Statistics South Africa has about these places. For provinces, racial statistics from the 2011 Census are already available, but for smaller census-defined areas such as main places and sub places, I still have to categorize them based on the 2001 statistics since the 2011 Census official results have not yet been released. For statistical purposes, Statistics South Africa divides local municipalities into main places (which are approximately equivalent to cities and towns) and further divides main places into sub places (which are like neighbourhoods or boroughs). I have been inspired to create these categories because Wikipedia has categories for jurisdictions in the United States with African American majorities, Hispanic majorities, etc. I have not created any categories for places in South Africa with Black majorities because South Africa's overall population has a Black majority, so any particular places in South Africa with Black majorites would not be statistically significant to the country's demographics. I really hope you will reconsider deleting all these categories I have created and populated. Also, I have not looked up every South African province, main place, etc. yet so there are probably many more articles about South African places that still need to be added to these categories.
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Hello again! Since you are one of the main creators of articles on Ottoman provinces, what is your opinion on the form of their name? Should we use the transliterated Turkish name or the common name? E.g. the " Sanjak of Selanik" or the " Sanjak of Salonica"? I think the general rule for historical entities is the former, as it corresponds to the "official" name as well, but there is a strong argument to be made for recognizability, i.e. "Sanjak of Gördes" is rather more obscure than "Sanjak of Corinth", and/or similarity, e.g. it is rather pointless to differentiate between "Rodos" and "Rhodes"or "Preveze" and "Preveza". For instance, when writing on Byzantine provinces, I generally follow a mixture of forms, both transliterated or anglicized, depending on popularity and ease of recognition, but I'd like to know what you think on this matter. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 20:46, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I am Jimgiby. I have detected two strange changes of maps concerning the Ottoman vilajets of Istambul and Edirne made by you. An old Ottoman map of Istambul vilajet with Arabic inscriptions added by you looks compleatly unclear. Eastern Rumelia was not part from the Edirne vilajet in 1900, but it was part from Bulgaria since 1885. Before that it was part from Eastern Rumelia. Thank you. Jingiby ( talk) 17:29, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
True, that- thanks for the correction: the article clearly indicates what it means by "turban"; perhaps it would be best to distinguish the garment with a different nomination entirely, as this is most definitely not what 'turban' connotes in English. Mavigogun ( talk) 06:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Underlying -- I noticed that you've PRODded a number of articles about foreign language Wikipedias. Do you intend to PROD all of them? I suspect that they mostly lack reliable sources, but I also think that this is likely to be controversial. I suggest removing the PRODs and creating a bulk AfD for the lot of them. Pburka ( talk) 02:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, Underlying Ik! I am EnglishEfternamn. I am writing just to let you know that I am assessing the claim made at WP:DRN about the Tanzania article with which you are involved. Regards. EnglishEfternamn *t/c* 00:52, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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[4] (Ancient Anatolians are relevant to modern Turks) Also, "was a near-duplicate of the foreign relations section" is not a valid reason to delete this
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Greetings Underlying lk! I noticed you recently had an issue over on the Tanzania wikipage with AfricaTanz, which you seem to have successfully resolved. As it happens, there's a similar problem with the same editor over on the HIV/AIDS in Africa page. The issue over there also has to do with figures and the user's intransigence towards them. For some reason, he keeps removing the changes in the continent's HIV/AIDS prevalence and death rates. He has also insisted on using a local source for Tanzania's HIV/AIDS prevalence rate, although every other African country uses UNAIDS' official figures. This is no trivial matter since the Tanzanian source indicates an infection rate that's around 0.7 percentage points lower than the official figure that UNAIDS cites for Tanzania. I've tried for weeks now explaining to the user why this is inappropriate. However, he's now basically avoiding my discussion page comments and knee-jerk reverting. Would you mind in your spare time having a stab at it? Kinds regards - Soupforone ( talk) 21:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
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Revert
this edit as edit removed massive amount of sourced content--
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Hi. About this edit, you removed content because the reference is not valid? Normally we should search for the accuracy or inaccuracy of the event before removing content. As you see in this article, that fact seems to be correct. Farhikht ( talk) 20:10, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Zimbabwe. Am far from convinced the approach you are taking (on many pages I see from the above) is the best way. Babakathy ( talk) 14:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Please, see this talk page.-- Metroxed ( talk) 10:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Underlying lk, I do appreciate
So although I'm commenting here on your editing approach, please don't take it as a personal attack but a suggestion on how as a community this type of work can be done better.
I am sure that as you can see from the comments you get back on this page, the summarisation is controversial, even if the material that is removed is not inflammatory in itself. As a result, I would encourage discussion first. One of the main problems is material that gets removed. Some of the material in unencylopedic, so it's gone, good. But summarisation, by its nature, removes valid, sourced material also. Whilst you have made the point that material removed can be put into other articles [8], it is very important that actually gets done. If material is simply removed and no-one notices/comments/discusses, then it's gone - very few people will dig back through history to find it again.
So as a general point, I would suggest that it is helpful (if not policy) that a major edit that removes material for the purpose of summarisation should be discussed first. This flags the issue up and makes sure other editors get involved and participate in work and makes it more likely material that is removed is transferred to the right place and not lost. Babakathy ( talk) 06:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Nyarota, Geoffrey (29 January 2010). "MDC has joined conspiracy of silence". The Zimbabwe Times. Retrieved 28 March 2010. "Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001". 2001. Zimbabwe: Housing policy built on foundation of failures and lies, Amnesty International, 9 August 2006. "Crisis profile: Zimbabwe's humanitarian situation". Alertnet.org. 26 July 2005. Retrieved 6 June 2012. "Zimbabwe: health profile". The World Health Organization. 17 August 2010. Retrieved 15 April 2011. "Country Operational Plan: Zimbabwe". The U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief. 28 September 2009. Retrieved 30 May 2010. "Diamond Industry Calls for Clampdown on Zimbabwe Smuggling". Rapaport. 12 October 2008. Retrieved 12 December 2008. Farira, David (4 December 2008). "Eerie silence at Zimbabwe mine". BBC News. Retrieved 6 June 2012. "Statement of the IMF's Mission to Zimbabwe". IMF. 2010. "Mugabe wants sanctions removed". UPI.com. 18 December 2010. Retrieved 21 August 2011. Kristof, Nicholas D. (7 April 2010). "Postcard From Zimbabwe". New York Times (Hwange). First Commercial Partnership Agreement between EU and 4 african countries, Madapolitics, 15 mai 2012 Cris Chinaka, "Mugabe deputy John Nkomo dies after cancer battle", Reuters, 17 January 2013.
"Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001". 2001. Zimbabwe: Housing policy built on foundation of failures and lies, Amnesty International, 9 August 2006. "Zimbabwe: health profile". The World Health Organization. 17 August 2010. Retrieved 15 April 2011. "Statement of the IMF's Mission to Zimbabwe". IMF. 2010. "Mugabe wants sanctions removed". UPI.com. 18 December 2010. Retrieved 21 August 2011. Cris Chinaka, "Mugabe deputy John Nkomo dies after cancer battle", Reuters, 17 January 2013.
is a US government source, and thus may be copy/pasted at will (with an attribution note) [9]. Materialscientist ( talk) 11:17, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Do you understand that erases everything he says Colombia's article. Perhaps you envy. If you are South African does not have to change the article of Colombia for who knows nothing of that country. I invite you to enter this page and see how is Colombia [10].-- Roboting ( talk) 21:24, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I reverted some of the changes you made to the Colombia article. Maybe next time instead of just wantonly deleting unsourced disputable information, you can take the time to do some research and change the information and add appropriate resources, or if you are not feeling up to it, you can also use the Template:Citation needed or Template:According to whom to show the problems in the statement. Be bold, not reckless. -- Theryx7 ( talk) 03:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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You never wrote anything in the talk page for me to answer. So how can you say "answer you in talk"...if you have yet to say a word there regarding this? So I'm not sure what you're saying or talking about. I already wrote tons on Talk about this. You wrote zero. So as I said, ADDRESS IT IN TALK...before removing all the time. Thank you. Gabby Merger ( talk) 06:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Underlying I see you have cropped some photos on the Botswana page and done some work on the Angola page. Which means you show some interest in both the photo aspect of the WP and Angola. I find the photo of Luanda Bay extremely poor - small and lifeless. There are hundreds of better photos of Luanda in the archives such as [ [12]]. I have never uploaded any photos, but I am sure you would have no difficulty with it. I also have hundreds of great photos of Luanda etc., but find the process of uploading them to the Wikimedia cumbersome - if there is a way, I could pass them on to you. Best regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 13:50, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
no decision was actually made. The discussion was simply closed arbitrarily, with my last comment never responded to you by you. Just because you and that other editor (not many people if you notice) want to dogmatically say "French pronunciation should not be mentioned", and just because you want to water down the French involvement in DR's formation, etc, does not mean the discussion was completely over.
You never answered my last thing...which was:
^^^^^^Just to address the point you made above about the years of French rule being "long after" DR's formation. The formation and development is not just referring to the very very start and infancy and fledglingness of DR. It took TIME for DR to fully develop. You're gonna say that in the 1700's DR was 100% formed and settled as a nation, in complete form? I guess though it's a matter of interpretation. But it's not like French ruled over DR from 1899 to 1922 or something. (For example). That would be different. But it was much earlier than that. (Also, it's not like DR has been around for 2000 years or something...or even 1000.) But French involvement was somewhat early on. During arguably DR's overall formation. Otherwise why would the article have the "French rule" thing SO EARLY in the article?^^^^^
You never answered that. So I'll ask it again.... French involvement was somewhat early on. During arguably DR's overall formation. Otherwise why would the article have the "French rule" thing SO EARLY in the article? Gabby Merger ( talk) 23:40, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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Welkom en Bloemfontein populasie info
Haai ik ....ons is in kontak met die munisipaliteit van Matjhabeng (Info@Matjhabeng.co.za) i v m die inligting wat jy deugegee het op wiki se Welkom (Matjahabeng) inligting.Die inligting wat jy deurgee is verkeerd en jy't nie die voorstede van Riebeeckstad en Thabong in gewerk nie asook ander.Plus die grense is in 2000 verander en die stad se inligting ( met populasies) het ook verander. Volgens die info wat hulle vir ons gestuur het is die inligting wat jy van die sensus 2011 deurggee selektief en moet verander word . Indien jy die info plaas soos wat jy tans doen sal n stad soos Bloemfontein se populasie ook moet verander aangesien die populasie van 256185 Rodenbeck, Langenhoven Park en Grasslands se populasie verteenwoordig en nie net die stad self s'n nie.Dit sal beteken dat +- 92535 van die totale populasie ( van bloem) verwyder moet word indien dit selektief hanteer word. Ek kan vir jou meer info deur gee indien jy jou epos adres verskaf . Kyk ook na die 2011 weergawe van : http://populationlabs.com/South_Africa_Population.asp . Weereens...kyk dat die voorstede van Riebeecstad en Thabong bygewerk is, anders is die gegewe inligting foutief.
The new info received is that the city's population from census 2011 , population 191341 - This includes Welkom's biggest suburb, Riebeeckstad and the Township Thabong. The cencus code is selective. Please read on the wiki page of Welkom the following :Demographics & History and City Design and notice that two areas are included. One can not in 2013 still segregate Thabong as not being part of the city. South Africa is now a democracy. Also note that Riebeecstad and Thabong do not have their own municipalities but is in the borders of the city of Welkom — Preceding unsigned comment added by HESM29 ( talk • contribs) 13:36, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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