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I put mother's name-tapes in "a safe and obvious place." Guess what? (Nope, no prizes being awarded here!) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 16:38, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
a pretty flower | |
Just because. Shearonink ( talk) 20:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC) |
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Thank you for helping to raise Ely, Cambridgeshire to GA status -- Senra ( Talk) 01:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
Whooo-hoooo! Well done, y'all. My input was surely negligible; I will still try to remember to hunt down more sources for that stuff. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 09:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
My neck is frightened. How can a single part of one's body be frightened? My neck flinches away from "the wrong movement", the slightest pressure, even thinking about some wrong movements, before anything even hurts or goes zap-tingles. I have a permanent cringe up there sniggering at me and saying "Look! I'm a time bomb!" Waaaahhhhh! [Pesky whinges...] At least mother is away for our first respite-care break in over a year, so I don't have to sleep with one ear open for a couple of nights. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:41, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Shamelessly kidnapped from Malleus's talk page for our entertainment. Confirmation of what we all secretly suspected? Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 11:38, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Almost created another one for you, I was about to comment on someone's inappropriate "personal attic;" alas, I caught it in preview before saving. Nobody Ent (Gerardw) 14:43, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
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With someone who's so committed to their own POV that they either flatly refuse to glance at hard facts, or read them but seem incapable of comprehending said hard facts - what do you do? Just walk away? Not in the context of an article, particularly, just a general "life" thing. Scientific, medical, or otherwise. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 20:20, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
P.S. The equine colour genetics people will know what I'm talking about. :o) this kind of stuff. And this. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I want one of these! Homozygous dun - turn out first crosses all 100% dun, and show 'em what blinkin' duns look like ... :P Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:47, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Nightmarish when a "fair trial" consists of being judged by twelve of your peers people of untested-intelligence who are likely to have little concept of the value of science and no ability to separate reality from rumour! And if you should be so unwise as to mention the word "evolution" in front of a jury of Creationists, you're stuffed!
Pesky (
talk …
stalk!)
10:14, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
c[~] ... I brought the beer .. now where's my hug? :-) — Ched : ? 20:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
...for your comment on my essay! Appreciate that. Yeah, it's long ... I keep adding stuff to it as I think of things. Maybe someday I'll make 100. :) Happy holidays to you! Antandrus (talk) 22:19, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
I'd like a granny hug, please. I think they're great. Heck, I'll hug anybody, anytime—and that's the gawds honest truth. Hugs make me happy and I like to be happy.
Anyhoo, I've been meaning to stop by and thank you for helping improve Wikipedia's social climate. You've done a great deal to help improve morale here at Wikipedia and I think you deserve a big thanks (and a hug), so please accept this small token of my gratitude.
Valued Contributor Award | ||
You have been identified as a valued contributor and your efforts are appreciated. We are honored to present you with the Valued Contributor Award and we thank you for donating your time, expertise and effort to Wikipedia. Keep up the good work. Thanks. ( more details) |
Things here at Wikipedia have been going down hill for a while, but there are those of us that truly believe in the project and also believe it should be an inviting and nuturing place to grow the next generation of new Wikipedians. You have done an outstanding job in that capacity and I thank you kindly for your efforts. I appreciate them and I know others do as well. Please keep up the good work as it means more to me than you can imagine. Thank you very much. - Hydroxonium ( T• C• V) 05:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Cuddles had her first rabbit today! It's amazing how a rabbit can just disappear into a snake ... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 23:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Other Half was slightly horrified at my suggestion that Cuddles would provide an excellent disposal mechanism for the remains of SenileCat when he finally shuffles off this mortal coil. As far as I;m concerned, it makes no difference to me if said remains are consumed by worms or Great Worms - and it would save the cost of three weeks snake food ... but I expect I will have to respect the delicate sensibilities of other family members ;P
ZOMG! I've just re-read the "snakes have whole food" thing ... and visualised the Whole Food Shop including entire carcases of cattle, sheep, pigs, sharks ... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 10:37, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
@Bg, Cuddles is a wonderful name for her! It's a nickname, really ... dating from when she was a four-foot snake-child who you could wrap around your waist and use for a belt :P (Provided you didn't object to the possibility of getting needle-sharp little snakey teeth in your midriff if you frightened her ...) Her "posh" name is Sarabi. The 'necklaces' on the ponies are the hi-viz reflective collars they wear when out on the Forest, so they show up in drivers' headlights. Reflective collars aren't a guarantee against death-by-car, but they do help. Cuddles doesn't really like to play with anyone - but she'll tolerate being handled under strict conditions that the handler remains totally calm, absolutely unflappable, doesn't grip anywhere too tightly on her, make any sudden movements, or smell wrong. She cannot stand perfumed toiletries of any kind (boas have an incredibly sensitive sense of smell, and strong scents quite literally hurt them. Moderate sweat, on the other hand, doesn't bother them one jot).
Well said in reply to my good wiki-friend Editor:Hydrox (above) and well said at The Arb Case. Is there a project afoot somewhere to clarify and stabilize our Wikipedia Community Civility Standard? If you know of one, please advise. Thank you. Buster Seven Talk 12:34, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Takes me back ... I remember when this one was released!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMK6eOueKNk&feature=related
And it's allowed here - it's from the Official Greg Lake YouTube channel ;P
"I wish you a hopeful Christmas,
I wish you a brave new year
All anguish, pain, and sadness
Leave your heart and let your road be clear.
This version doesn't have quite the magic of the 70's original - but I couldn't find a public-release version of that ... go to YouTube and hunt it out for yourselves.
Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 22:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Bet you wish you were here! | |
Warmest greetings from the Land of Smiles, and let's keep smiling together throughout the coming new year. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 23:23, 24 December 2011 (UTC) |
Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.
Happy Holidays..-- Buster Seven Talk 07:12, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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and I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas as well. :) hugs :) — Ched : ? 12:45, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Happy new year! | |
we wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year! Pass a Method talk 19:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC) |
Thank you - and to you (and yours), too. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 19:31, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Beautiful snow scenes are cold stuff! | |
I hope you are having a wonderful Christmas too, Pesky! Thanks for the nice note, and apologies for turning it into a chillier pun! Dreadstar ☥ 20:39, 25 December 2011 (UTC) |
Aaahhhh, beautiful! I love snow - I'm a big kid :o) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 09:44, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
I've brought the business at Talk:Stallion up at ANI. Acroterion (talk) 06:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Hope you has a great day. All the Best.
Leaky Caldron 10:46, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the nice Chirstmas note, Pesky. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas. I had a good one. Family, friends, food plus lots of laughs and good cheer.
It's your birthday too? Happy birthday. That means double the presents. . I hope you had a great birthday too. Best wishes to you and yours. - Hydroxonium ( T• C• V) 22:15, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! And a wonderful/merry/peaceful (take your pick: any or all) Christmas to you too! -- KFP ( contact - edits) 23:52, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
With reference to the biography of Mr. Gianfelice Rocca, I have seen you added a tag for notability last october. Now, since I believe enough time has passed, I suppose the contents have been accepted. If that is correct, I would ask you one question: may I delete the notability tag? Thanks in advance for your answer. Lorendanza ( talk) 19:50, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
The Mercury reports that Maggie58, the elderly corgi-cross that guards Grandma58 and Grandpa58s' normally placid ancestral manor in Hobart, got all discombobulated and confused, due to an Yuletide influx of adult children, grandchildren, and other assorted hangers-on.
No doubt with an eye on possible reportage in The Signpost, Maggie58 chose to slightly nip User:Shirt58's left calf, shortly before Boxing Day dinner. Hilarity ensued, as nurses, doctors and lawyers debated whether Shirt58 needed stitches. And then we ate dinner.
After a fine dinner and a four minute drive to the local casualty ward and 30 second wait in triage, even more hilarious was of course Shirt58's girly squeals as the wound was actually stitched up.
And in other news, apparently there is some sort yacht race and a rather popular art museum in Hobart. -- Shirt58 ( talk) 14:09, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
[1], and one with which I completely agree. There may not be much difference between us at all in our attitudes to civility, despite me not having a position in the civility police. ;-) Malleus Fatuorum 20:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Adding: people who want to mutilate and torture police officers come into three basic categories:
Of course there will always be some overlap between these categories in many cases, but on the whole (with a modicum of intelligence and experience) one can see which category people fit into. "Civility police" attacks, apart from the first two of these basic three categories, will stop once the civility policy is clear, unambiguous, and evenly applied. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:14, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes was basically stalking you as you commented on the case and noted this: User:ThatPeskyCommoner/Case_History, and wanted to tell you there is no "Pesky" case -- there was a BD case, settled appropriately. I told you at the time I though you made a mistake, but a good faith mistake in judgement is not wrong, it's just a mistake. (As I am way ahead of you on Arbitration clerk suggested strikeouts, I make 'em too.) At this point the BD thing should be past and over, and if there is lingering doubt on your part it is unnecessary and if there is lingering criticism by others then they need to get over their silly grudges, it's not your problem. Highly recommend being the other kind of duck. Nobody Ent 23:17, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't want to further muddy up the waters of the ArbCom case, but your comment here caught my eye. There is a distinction here, but I'm no sure it's properly drawn out by the "surface incivility" dichotomy. As I said to Lara on my talk page, I'm much more comfortable with being called a "fucking cunt" than I am with being called a "toxic personality"; the first I can shrug off, the latter is insulting. Maybe it's just the way I'm wired. Malleus Fatuorum 20:01, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
The time of year thing is a perfectly reasonable explanation. It's all to do with those serotonin/melatonin imbalances - been confirmed, verified, tested and re-tested for a long, long time now. And bright-enough natural or near-natural daylight helps tweak those imbalances into balance without the potential side-effects of SSRIs, which do the same job (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors). From the chemistry, "E's" would also work, but, of course, not available on prescription ... lol! And those other little challenges, too.
Montana, as always, if I can assist in de-barbing the flak, I'll do my best. Malleus - within reason, you have my permission in advance to call me almost anything you like if you need to vent, and I'll take it as read that it doesn't necessarily mean the same thing, coming from you, as it might from someone else. On the whole, though, I'd appreciate it if you avoided words like sanctimonious, patronising, condescending ..... but "fucking stupid old woman" I could probably handle! Maybe it would be best if you always added a very obvious (>**)> hug at the end, so that other people can see we're cool with that stuff?
Geometry guy, you have some good points up there; all these things are related. As to ways forward - yes, it can be done. But it can't be done by "the community" - that's the death spiral way. It needs an official mandate to be given to small team of genuinely good writers who really understand the spirit of the thing, and have the ability to come up with a brilliantly-clear and impossible-to-wriggle-around civility/NPA policy, to do it. The only question to put to the community on it should be "Is this clear enough?" If we can get the spirit and the concept down as concisely, succinctly, and clearly (and ideally not tautologically ;P) enough, it should not be necessary to go into reams and reams of detail and explanation.
Whatever the human mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve.
The answer is simple (all ambiguities intended). It's not going to be easy - particularly to get that official mandate - but it is simple. So many people draw no internal distinction between the easy and the simple; the simplest ethical total solution is almost always the best one.
What we need here is a principle-centred policy written up by principle-centred people. It is always the principle which is the most important thing. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 09:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't know whether that makes you a sneeze, a gobbet of phlegm, a drug-induced euphoria, a violent attack of the runs, or a rash. I'm hoping it's not the rash, as I make a point of not making rash promises if I can help it!
I've finally got around to officially putting some input other than comments there. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 13:04, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
If you have ideas good Pesky, I think you should name them, either here or on the Arb board. Miracles do sometimes happen, the Arbs might take a liking to the plan. Will be intrigued to see who you select, though off for some dreaming of my own now, so G'night for the moment. FeydHuxtable ( talk) 21:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm truly ambivalent about your effort here. While it could helpful it won't be sufficient.
Pesky, the team building essay looks really good. Maybe you could change the word coordinator to facilitator? Little things can make all the difference, and facilitator might fit in better with our collaborative approach rather than coordinator which fits better with more hierarchical organisations. FeydHuxtable ( talk) 14:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | → | Archive 15 |
I put mother's name-tapes in "a safe and obvious place." Guess what? (Nope, no prizes being awarded here!) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 16:38, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
a pretty flower | |
Just because. Shearonink ( talk) 20:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC) |
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Thank you for helping to raise Ely, Cambridgeshire to GA status -- Senra ( Talk) 01:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
Whooo-hoooo! Well done, y'all. My input was surely negligible; I will still try to remember to hunt down more sources for that stuff. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 09:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
My neck is frightened. How can a single part of one's body be frightened? My neck flinches away from "the wrong movement", the slightest pressure, even thinking about some wrong movements, before anything even hurts or goes zap-tingles. I have a permanent cringe up there sniggering at me and saying "Look! I'm a time bomb!" Waaaahhhhh! [Pesky whinges...] At least mother is away for our first respite-care break in over a year, so I don't have to sleep with one ear open for a couple of nights. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:41, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Shamelessly kidnapped from Malleus's talk page for our entertainment. Confirmation of what we all secretly suspected? Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 11:38, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Almost created another one for you, I was about to comment on someone's inappropriate "personal attic;" alas, I caught it in preview before saving. Nobody Ent (Gerardw) 14:43, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
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With someone who's so committed to their own POV that they either flatly refuse to glance at hard facts, or read them but seem incapable of comprehending said hard facts - what do you do? Just walk away? Not in the context of an article, particularly, just a general "life" thing. Scientific, medical, or otherwise. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 20:20, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
P.S. The equine colour genetics people will know what I'm talking about. :o) this kind of stuff. And this. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I want one of these! Homozygous dun - turn out first crosses all 100% dun, and show 'em what blinkin' duns look like ... :P Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:47, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Nightmarish when a "fair trial" consists of being judged by twelve of your peers people of untested-intelligence who are likely to have little concept of the value of science and no ability to separate reality from rumour! And if you should be so unwise as to mention the word "evolution" in front of a jury of Creationists, you're stuffed!
Pesky (
talk …
stalk!)
10:14, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
c[~] ... I brought the beer .. now where's my hug? :-) — Ched : ? 20:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
...for your comment on my essay! Appreciate that. Yeah, it's long ... I keep adding stuff to it as I think of things. Maybe someday I'll make 100. :) Happy holidays to you! Antandrus (talk) 22:19, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
I'd like a granny hug, please. I think they're great. Heck, I'll hug anybody, anytime—and that's the gawds honest truth. Hugs make me happy and I like to be happy.
Anyhoo, I've been meaning to stop by and thank you for helping improve Wikipedia's social climate. You've done a great deal to help improve morale here at Wikipedia and I think you deserve a big thanks (and a hug), so please accept this small token of my gratitude.
Valued Contributor Award | ||
You have been identified as a valued contributor and your efforts are appreciated. We are honored to present you with the Valued Contributor Award and we thank you for donating your time, expertise and effort to Wikipedia. Keep up the good work. Thanks. ( more details) |
Things here at Wikipedia have been going down hill for a while, but there are those of us that truly believe in the project and also believe it should be an inviting and nuturing place to grow the next generation of new Wikipedians. You have done an outstanding job in that capacity and I thank you kindly for your efforts. I appreciate them and I know others do as well. Please keep up the good work as it means more to me than you can imagine. Thank you very much. - Hydroxonium ( T• C• V) 05:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Cuddles had her first rabbit today! It's amazing how a rabbit can just disappear into a snake ... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 23:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Other Half was slightly horrified at my suggestion that Cuddles would provide an excellent disposal mechanism for the remains of SenileCat when he finally shuffles off this mortal coil. As far as I;m concerned, it makes no difference to me if said remains are consumed by worms or Great Worms - and it would save the cost of three weeks snake food ... but I expect I will have to respect the delicate sensibilities of other family members ;P
ZOMG! I've just re-read the "snakes have whole food" thing ... and visualised the Whole Food Shop including entire carcases of cattle, sheep, pigs, sharks ... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 10:37, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
@Bg, Cuddles is a wonderful name for her! It's a nickname, really ... dating from when she was a four-foot snake-child who you could wrap around your waist and use for a belt :P (Provided you didn't object to the possibility of getting needle-sharp little snakey teeth in your midriff if you frightened her ...) Her "posh" name is Sarabi. The 'necklaces' on the ponies are the hi-viz reflective collars they wear when out on the Forest, so they show up in drivers' headlights. Reflective collars aren't a guarantee against death-by-car, but they do help. Cuddles doesn't really like to play with anyone - but she'll tolerate being handled under strict conditions that the handler remains totally calm, absolutely unflappable, doesn't grip anywhere too tightly on her, make any sudden movements, or smell wrong. She cannot stand perfumed toiletries of any kind (boas have an incredibly sensitive sense of smell, and strong scents quite literally hurt them. Moderate sweat, on the other hand, doesn't bother them one jot).
Well said in reply to my good wiki-friend Editor:Hydrox (above) and well said at The Arb Case. Is there a project afoot somewhere to clarify and stabilize our Wikipedia Community Civility Standard? If you know of one, please advise. Thank you. Buster Seven Talk 12:34, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Takes me back ... I remember when this one was released!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMK6eOueKNk&feature=related
And it's allowed here - it's from the Official Greg Lake YouTube channel ;P
"I wish you a hopeful Christmas,
I wish you a brave new year
All anguish, pain, and sadness
Leave your heart and let your road be clear.
This version doesn't have quite the magic of the 70's original - but I couldn't find a public-release version of that ... go to YouTube and hunt it out for yourselves.
Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 22:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Bet you wish you were here! | |
Warmest greetings from the Land of Smiles, and let's keep smiling together throughout the coming new year. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 23:23, 24 December 2011 (UTC) |
Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.
Happy Holidays..-- Buster Seven Talk 07:12, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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and I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas as well. :) hugs :) — Ched : ? 12:45, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Happy new year! | |
we wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year! Pass a Method talk 19:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC) |
Thank you - and to you (and yours), too. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 19:31, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Beautiful snow scenes are cold stuff! | |
I hope you are having a wonderful Christmas too, Pesky! Thanks for the nice note, and apologies for turning it into a chillier pun! Dreadstar ☥ 20:39, 25 December 2011 (UTC) |
Aaahhhh, beautiful! I love snow - I'm a big kid :o) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 09:44, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
I've brought the business at Talk:Stallion up at ANI. Acroterion (talk) 06:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Hope you has a great day. All the Best.
Leaky Caldron 10:46, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the nice Chirstmas note, Pesky. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas. I had a good one. Family, friends, food plus lots of laughs and good cheer.
It's your birthday too? Happy birthday. That means double the presents. . I hope you had a great birthday too. Best wishes to you and yours. - Hydroxonium ( T• C• V) 22:15, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! And a wonderful/merry/peaceful (take your pick: any or all) Christmas to you too! -- KFP ( contact - edits) 23:52, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
With reference to the biography of Mr. Gianfelice Rocca, I have seen you added a tag for notability last october. Now, since I believe enough time has passed, I suppose the contents have been accepted. If that is correct, I would ask you one question: may I delete the notability tag? Thanks in advance for your answer. Lorendanza ( talk) 19:50, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
The Mercury reports that Maggie58, the elderly corgi-cross that guards Grandma58 and Grandpa58s' normally placid ancestral manor in Hobart, got all discombobulated and confused, due to an Yuletide influx of adult children, grandchildren, and other assorted hangers-on.
No doubt with an eye on possible reportage in The Signpost, Maggie58 chose to slightly nip User:Shirt58's left calf, shortly before Boxing Day dinner. Hilarity ensued, as nurses, doctors and lawyers debated whether Shirt58 needed stitches. And then we ate dinner.
After a fine dinner and a four minute drive to the local casualty ward and 30 second wait in triage, even more hilarious was of course Shirt58's girly squeals as the wound was actually stitched up.
And in other news, apparently there is some sort yacht race and a rather popular art museum in Hobart. -- Shirt58 ( talk) 14:09, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
[1], and one with which I completely agree. There may not be much difference between us at all in our attitudes to civility, despite me not having a position in the civility police. ;-) Malleus Fatuorum 20:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Adding: people who want to mutilate and torture police officers come into three basic categories:
Of course there will always be some overlap between these categories in many cases, but on the whole (with a modicum of intelligence and experience) one can see which category people fit into. "Civility police" attacks, apart from the first two of these basic three categories, will stop once the civility policy is clear, unambiguous, and evenly applied. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:14, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes was basically stalking you as you commented on the case and noted this: User:ThatPeskyCommoner/Case_History, and wanted to tell you there is no "Pesky" case -- there was a BD case, settled appropriately. I told you at the time I though you made a mistake, but a good faith mistake in judgement is not wrong, it's just a mistake. (As I am way ahead of you on Arbitration clerk suggested strikeouts, I make 'em too.) At this point the BD thing should be past and over, and if there is lingering doubt on your part it is unnecessary and if there is lingering criticism by others then they need to get over their silly grudges, it's not your problem. Highly recommend being the other kind of duck. Nobody Ent 23:17, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't want to further muddy up the waters of the ArbCom case, but your comment here caught my eye. There is a distinction here, but I'm no sure it's properly drawn out by the "surface incivility" dichotomy. As I said to Lara on my talk page, I'm much more comfortable with being called a "fucking cunt" than I am with being called a "toxic personality"; the first I can shrug off, the latter is insulting. Maybe it's just the way I'm wired. Malleus Fatuorum 20:01, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
The time of year thing is a perfectly reasonable explanation. It's all to do with those serotonin/melatonin imbalances - been confirmed, verified, tested and re-tested for a long, long time now. And bright-enough natural or near-natural daylight helps tweak those imbalances into balance without the potential side-effects of SSRIs, which do the same job (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors). From the chemistry, "E's" would also work, but, of course, not available on prescription ... lol! And those other little challenges, too.
Montana, as always, if I can assist in de-barbing the flak, I'll do my best. Malleus - within reason, you have my permission in advance to call me almost anything you like if you need to vent, and I'll take it as read that it doesn't necessarily mean the same thing, coming from you, as it might from someone else. On the whole, though, I'd appreciate it if you avoided words like sanctimonious, patronising, condescending ..... but "fucking stupid old woman" I could probably handle! Maybe it would be best if you always added a very obvious (>**)> hug at the end, so that other people can see we're cool with that stuff?
Geometry guy, you have some good points up there; all these things are related. As to ways forward - yes, it can be done. But it can't be done by "the community" - that's the death spiral way. It needs an official mandate to be given to small team of genuinely good writers who really understand the spirit of the thing, and have the ability to come up with a brilliantly-clear and impossible-to-wriggle-around civility/NPA policy, to do it. The only question to put to the community on it should be "Is this clear enough?" If we can get the spirit and the concept down as concisely, succinctly, and clearly (and ideally not tautologically ;P) enough, it should not be necessary to go into reams and reams of detail and explanation.
Whatever the human mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve.
The answer is simple (all ambiguities intended). It's not going to be easy - particularly to get that official mandate - but it is simple. So many people draw no internal distinction between the easy and the simple; the simplest ethical total solution is almost always the best one.
What we need here is a principle-centred policy written up by principle-centred people. It is always the principle which is the most important thing. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 09:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't know whether that makes you a sneeze, a gobbet of phlegm, a drug-induced euphoria, a violent attack of the runs, or a rash. I'm hoping it's not the rash, as I make a point of not making rash promises if I can help it!
I've finally got around to officially putting some input other than comments there. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 13:04, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
If you have ideas good Pesky, I think you should name them, either here or on the Arb board. Miracles do sometimes happen, the Arbs might take a liking to the plan. Will be intrigued to see who you select, though off for some dreaming of my own now, so G'night for the moment. FeydHuxtable ( talk) 21:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm truly ambivalent about your effort here. While it could helpful it won't be sufficient.
Pesky, the team building essay looks really good. Maybe you could change the word coordinator to facilitator? Little things can make all the difference, and facilitator might fit in better with our collaborative approach rather than coordinator which fits better with more hierarchical organisations. FeydHuxtable ( talk) 14:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)