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So that means that we should wait for 15 minutes since it was created before tagging it. But if it should be immediately deleted then we should nominate it for deletion. and again docstore's content is in public domain. But it's again one's personal thesis. So in that case it should be deleted, na? I'm confused. :/ -- Tamravidhir ( talk!) 10:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
The rule is to wait 15 minutes before attaching any tags, unless it is a blatant speedy.What I meant by this was.... The other editor was questioning the timing of your AfD. I was stating you were clearly following the rules when you nominated it for AfD. The only time to delete it before the 15 minute time period is if it is a candidate for Speedy Deleregartion. Examples would be a bunch of nonsense or something that is attacking.
This normally would be a case for a Speedy under copyright violation, but docstore's copyright is "Public Domain".What I meant by this was... I found where the person copied and pasted from. Normally the article would be a candidate for a Speedy Deletion for copyright violation. However, docstore stated it was in the "Public Domain", thus it couldn't be Speedy Deleted. Therefore, the only option to delete the article was thru your AfD nomination.
Hello. I have removed your misguided warning. Please read WP:DTTR, and assume good faith yourself. If you have any problems with the edits of an experienced editor, like TRPOD, discuss the edits with them on their talk page, instead of just pasting a user warning on it. Thomas.W talk 16:03, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
FYI for references of number of junior wives.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 18:24, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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— HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:58, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom: You know what? I love to talk about India especially with people who are not of Indian origin. And you being my friend, I would love to recommend some films to you. Firstly, I would like to say that the masala movies don't appeal to me (masala means spices). So I don't like watching films such as Dabangg, Rowdy Rathore and Chennai Express. They may be good for watching on TV at home when you have nothing to do. But not worth 200 or 500 bucks! And even out of these some are so pathetic that they give me a headache. But I will never ever demean Bollywood. Bollywood has also produced some masterpieces, some classics, some evergreen movies which you will cherish for your whole life. I generally look for something new, something classy, something light hearted (not always though! :P) and something appealing. And here is a list of Indian films I love. But before I start the list I would like to clarify that the Indian film industry is not just Bollywood. Bollywood is just the Hindi language film industry which is a part of the Indian film industry. We also have other film industries such as the Bengali film industry (Tollywood), the Tamil film industry (Kollywood), the Gujarati film industry (Dhollywood), the Telugu film industry (even this one's called Tollywood), the Assamese film industry, the Marathi film industry and so on. Basically there is a film industry for each and every Indian language. But it's just that Bollywood is more prominent. So now I begin my list in alphabetical order (I have also tried to add English names for the movies! Some are official English names while others are just translations. I have left those which are difficult to translate; I have also included some age old classics - you may also like this link!):
Satyajit Ray is regarded as one of the greatest auteurs of world cinema. Born in Calcutta into a Bengali family (I'm a Bengali!) Ray has directed a total of 36 films, including feature films, documentaries and shorts. He was also a fiction writer, publisher, illustrator, calligrapher, music composer, graphic designer and film critic. He authored several short stories and novels, primarily aimed at children and adolescents. Feluda is one of the popular fictional characters created by him. He was also awarded honorary doctorate by the Oxford University and he was the second after Charlie Chaplin. Ray also received an Honorary Academy Award (the Oscar!) in 1992 and was decorated by the Bharat Ratna in the same year. He has represented India three times in the Indian submissions for the Oscar Best Foreign Language film award, the most by any director! And here are few of his films that you must (you must you must you must!) watch:
Tamravidhir ( talk!) 12:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
::(P.S - :( Netflix is note yet available in India!)
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05:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom: Sorry Prhartcom! I don't use mail nowadays...and it's really great to hear that you have watched those two Chinese films but if to recommend any one of those nine Indian films I would say watch Kahaani first followed by Jodhaa Akbar (note - if we ignore the fact that Jodhaa Akbar is historically inaccurate then it's wonderful; it is set in the Mughal era during the reign of the thirdrd Mughal emperor Akbar and tells the tale of him and his wife, Jodhaa Bai, a Rajput Hindu). Tamravidhir ( talk!) 17:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Now I won't talk much! But I can bet that if you watch just these six films then you will never forget me and you will fall in love with these... Tamravidhir ( talk!) 06:44, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom:You just reminded me that just this month a film by Vishal Bhardwaj titled Haider was released. And this is nothing but a modern-day adaptation of Hamlet and if to mention then this is the third film of Bhardwaj which is based on a Shakespearean work. The first one being Maqbool (based on Macbeth - Who would have thought the old man to have had so much blood in him?) and the second being Omkara (based on Othello). Okay! I'll watch the 2009 Hamlet! :D Just this month I have thought to start having my personal film collection. So I'm watching as many I can and collecting as many I want to.. Actually a few of the films out of those which I have recommended, I haven't watched yet. You want to know my list of movies to watch this month. So here's it:
Really it's too big! But I promise that by this month I will watch the 2009 Hamlet. Thank you Prhartcom! :) ^_^ Tamravidhir ( talk!) 14:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom:Really!? You have watched Kahaani. Oh my God!!! I can’t believe it! And did you like it? How much a lot? By the way how was it? And did you see my hometown, Calcutta? How was it? You know I have always craved for that outsider’s view. An insider’s view can be biased to a certain extent. You enjoyed it? By the way before watching it did you know the story or the climax? Were you anyhow able to predict it? Did you ever felt bored while watching it? Please Prhartcom, tell na! And please tell the truth. I won’t mind! I am really mad and hysterical now! :P And you know waht Vidya is one of my favourite actresses. I just love her and also this film!!!! Aaaah!!! :P I would really love if you listen to the title song of the film. It isn't in the film but it is in the film's soundtrack album. The link to the female version sung by Shreya Ghoshal is here on YouTube (you must listen to this; you must you must you must!) and that to the male version by KK is here on YouTube. I just love these! And except these you have various other songs from the album; two of them being "Aami Shotti Bolchi" (meaning "I'm Telling the Truth") by Usha Uthup and Vishwesh Krishnamurthy ( link here on YouTube; you must watch this for the video) and the sensational Rabindra Sangeet " Ekla Cholo Re" sung by Big B in the film which is a more modern version of the original one ( here’s the link to the one sung by Big B on YouTube). And by the way I have already watched Psycho. See now I will tell you the name of the English language films falling under this genre which I have watched. And they are...
And I wanna watch Apocalypse Now, Black Christmas (the 1970s one; also known was Silence Night, Evil Night), Jaws, Rear Window, Se7en, The Shawshank Redemption, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, The Shining, The Taxi Driver and Vertigo. Tamravidhir ( talk!) 13:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
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In Everest (Indian TV series), you've created an article that's well-sourced, well-written, well-structured and well, really rather good! Congratulations on an excellent piece of work. Yunshui 雲 水 08:23, 21 October 2014 (UTC) |
I take back my edit. Now I have replaced that with two minor edits.....for both I have added citations. Casey577 ( talk) 19:51, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tamravidhir!
Yum, thanks for the cookies! There're two questions I would like to ask (in case You got lots of user questions: there's no time pressure from my side):
1. If I like to write a requested article, is there any place where I can see if somebody else is already working on or researching for it? So I can avoid double submissions of articles or frustrating some one else's ambitions.
2. If I could write an article about a subject but have no (listable) source for my information (e. g. because the subject is a colloquial or outdated term for something or a regional food specialty with no 100% clear definition etc.), should I write it? Or would unverified content do more bad than good?
Thanks & Best -- Lidanoir ( talk) 16:49, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Good to know a source is basically obligatory. For now, I have two subjects (both listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Arts_and_entertainment#Other_.28non-people_and_non-organization.29) I could write about:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Bachwürfel&action=edit&redlink=1 (It's a confectionary named after composer Johann S. Bach. I have 3 sources from newspapers and the producer company)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Mozart_Cake&action=edit&redlink=1 (A layer cake inspired by the "Mozartkugel" chocolate praline. Could name 3 sources from online recipe books + 1 source from a magazine)
In both cases I could write to the source proprietors asking for free pictures, if convenient.
Best Lidanoir ( talk) 23:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: First: Great, I'll go and start writing the articles. As soon as I have one finished - as a draft like advised - I can hand it in for revision. So it would only appear in the mainspace if approved and if there's a realistic chance it won't be deleted. I'll see what I can do about the images and in case I'd be provided with some, will only upload them to Wikipedia. All Your advice really helps a lot a lot and it's also quite a lot to take in, so I'm glad I can always go back to the manual here. Maybe it takes me a while to finish the first article but I'll be working on it. Thanks again for helping! And before I forget: Somewhere I once read: Not answering to a non-emergency digital message immediately takes the pressure out of a conversation. I totally go with that :-)
Best Lidanoir ( talk) 23:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
"...Not answering to a non-emergency digital message immediately takes the pressure out of a conversation. I totally go with that :-)":( By the like chocolate lake is mozart cake a type of a cake or is it a product or a brand of some company. I really don’t know! :P Like Cadbury Dairy Milk is a brand of chocolate manufactured by Cadbury. If the case is the first one then the “C” in cake should be in lower case as per the manual of style and if it’s the second case then the “C” can be as it is that is in the upper case. And by the way what is mozart? :/ Tamravidhir ( talk!) 08:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Thanks for the sandbox! I'll make a dive for it & for writing. Never mind the obscure quote "...Not answering to a non-emergency digital message immediately takes the pressure out of a conversation. I totally go with that :-)"}} It basically expressed that it is absolutely okay and normal not to answer immediately to a message which is not an emergency, even though the modern means of communication make it possible. Because the quicker one person reacts, say, to a mail or post, the more the other person feels urged to answer as quick or even quicker. So it's like a spiral.
Mozart cake is not a protected brand name. I copied a judicial decision for that to my sources. There is no fixed recipe for it but, as with devil's food cake or neapolitan ice cream, people associate a certain combination of flavors and baking style with it. If You order Mozart cake You'd expect a layer cake made with chocolate batter and a filling of nougat, marzipan and pistachio marzipan (or simply anything pistachio-flavoured). This leads to the answer to "What is mozart?". It's a common denominator of flavors and ingredients (like "Melba" in Melba toast) which all recipes labeled "Mozart" are expected to incorporate. No matter if the recipe is for Mozart liquor, Mozart chocolate or Mozart ice cream (all of which really exist). But since "Mozart" is no protected brand name and has no PDO (protected designation of origin), one could put the name on anything. One might sell a cherry pie as Mozart cake - but one would get in trouble selling a cherry pie as Dresdner Stollen because Stollen has a Protected Designation of Origin. No I really feel like getting myself a nice slice of Stollen which is no problem at all: Christmas candy is around in German supermarkets from about September to Februar :). Invigorated by sugary Stollen I'll then go for writing.
Thanks again & Best Lidanoir ( talk) 18:18, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Forget about the last line in my previous message. I was just trying to make a joke. I'm already working at the article so no worries. You understood the matter about the "mozart" attribute about right. Let's hope my articles are more intelligible than my messages. So bets for now Lidanoir ( talk) 22:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Hi Thamradvidhir! I made the draft for my first article and I also have free images for it in store. Would You be so kind as to take a look at the article? The formatting for me is the hardest part. I just couldn't get the numbers of the references right. Don't worry, the text itself is not very long: [ [1]] I hope it's not automatically deleted by now. It said the sandbox would be regularly cleared. Is there a way I can save my drafts for a longer time without fearing they will suddenly be gone? Thanks for Your help & Bye Lidanoir ( talk) 00:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
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you please stop irritating me and wikipedia by nominating deletion for articles with references. Please stop behaving like a mental patient. I'll complain to administrators for banishing you for years. This is a last warning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadman Sakibzz ( talk • contribs) 05:08, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm really sorry for my early behaviour. I used harsh words upon you. Actually I come of a society where a trifling fault leads to listen intense slangs. Very much sorry for my behaviours. At first I was jokingly adding infos without references which I knew but didn't feature in the net. But I've changed now. My articles at least point out some evidences. But of you disagree, you can teach me which kinds of references are allowed. Can I use infos featured in a celeb's facebook fan page? Why my images are always deleted? What it needs for being escaped from patrolled?( User talk:Sadman Sakibzz!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadman Sakibzz ( talk • contribs) 05:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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For your work on the Everest (Indian TV series). Written excellently. Arjann ( talk) 07:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC) |
I'm not in India but abroad and saw the premiere of the show. I felt reading its Wikipedia page. Initially I thought no one must have written about it but you gave me a big surprise. Very nice. Try to add more credits in a section at the bottom of the page if you manage to get it from official sources. Not so necessary but you may. Arjann ( talk) 07:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Re Everest - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not a platform to regurgitate self promotional quotes from involved parties. Removal of such promotional bloat is not in any shape or form "vandalism" . -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:43, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
per the 3O above: what part of "far fewer and far shorter and far less self-serving. do you not understand? Fewer means less - we dont make up 3/4 of the article with quotes. far shorter means that we do not include multiple full paragraph quotes. far less self serving means that we do not have multiple quotes where those involved are breaking their arms patting themselves on the back for what a great job they did. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:51, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I have noticed your recent concentration on the contributions of new editor Sadman Sakibzz. Yes, the stubs he offered are weak, but not all are automatically non-notable simply because they are poorly written or poorly sourced. See WP:NRVE... notability usually depends on sources being available through diligence, and not upon their use in an article. And we try to avoid unnecessary bureaucracy. For example, his many song articles you sent to AFD could have far more easily been set as redirects to the various film articles, and an AFD discussion avoided... an AFD would be proper if someone disagreed and reverted the redirect.
It is generally understood that we have issues when sourcing pre-1990s Indian topics... so unless they are blatant violations of policy and not simply stubby with otherwise addressable issues, we tend to be a bit more patient and in less of a hurry to send them to deletion. Involvement of notables in certain older film projects would seem an assurance that the older films received media attention, even if not online or in English. And look to WP:NF's "other evidence of notability". As an alternative to WP:GNG, older films are often verifiable as part of a national archive, or as a major part of the career of a notable person, or have rescreened years later in festivals or as part of retrospectives.. so you might consider tagging them and see what a few weeks of editorial attention brings. Advise the editor where he might look for sources. Advise him on format and tone and style, as we always have options that are far less bitey to new editors. Thanks, Schmidt, Michael Q. 21:04, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did to Bade Achhe Lagte Hain, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Tellychakkar.com is media wing of PR firm not a reliable source with a rep for fact checking and accuracy. To keep the content add the reliable source to confirm the ratings. Aryan.for.you ( talk) 08:14, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi there, I just saw your question at Yunshui's user talk page. As a rule of thumb, all content published elsewhere is copyrighted and non-free. But there certain exceptions. Files from other websites may be uploaded at Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons if they have been published under a free licence, or their copyright term has expired due to old age. Creative Commons is one such suitable licence but it must include the opportunity for commercial re-use and of the material and derivatives (if you see any of these signs don't upload the file). Flickr has a lot of these free photos but then most of the content from Flickr is marked with a (c), which means it's not free to use and will be removed from Wikipedia or Commons, too.
As to old age, there are two general indicators concerning the term of copyright with lots of complicated subsets:
In the United States, copyright depends on the date of publication. Everything published in the US or abroad before 1923 is not copyrighted in the US, but it may still be copyrighted in the country of origin. European states usually have a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years after which the content becomes public domain.
I hope this little introduction will help you determine if a file is free to re-use at Wikipedia or Commons. If you have more questions, please don't hesitate to ask them here. De728631 ( talk) 16:02, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Please understand that when two editors (one established, one very new) have similar editing styles, make similar arguments and, while at the same time asserting everything on that site is unreliable ignore the rest of the "about us" that page, to focus on just one sentence on that page as factual, and being unable or unwilling to support their personal opinions through any actual research into editorial staff to determine if the staff has the expertise required by WP:RS or if the site has the required widespread acceptance... then know that nothing you write will sway them. Their minds are made up through conjecture, not fact. Best to step away and allow others to provide research beyond such personal opinion, and please avoid any useless back-and-forth or WP:WAX. Best not to WP:BLUD the discussion. Schmidt, Michael Q. 18:57, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Bade Achhe Lagte Hain teaser (for episode 166).ogv, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 15:00, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Everest telenovela trailer.ogv, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 15:35, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
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So that means that we should wait for 15 minutes since it was created before tagging it. But if it should be immediately deleted then we should nominate it for deletion. and again docstore's content is in public domain. But it's again one's personal thesis. So in that case it should be deleted, na? I'm confused. :/ -- Tamravidhir ( talk!) 10:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
The rule is to wait 15 minutes before attaching any tags, unless it is a blatant speedy.What I meant by this was.... The other editor was questioning the timing of your AfD. I was stating you were clearly following the rules when you nominated it for AfD. The only time to delete it before the 15 minute time period is if it is a candidate for Speedy Deleregartion. Examples would be a bunch of nonsense or something that is attacking.
This normally would be a case for a Speedy under copyright violation, but docstore's copyright is "Public Domain".What I meant by this was... I found where the person copied and pasted from. Normally the article would be a candidate for a Speedy Deletion for copyright violation. However, docstore stated it was in the "Public Domain", thus it couldn't be Speedy Deleted. Therefore, the only option to delete the article was thru your AfD nomination.
Hello. I have removed your misguided warning. Please read WP:DTTR, and assume good faith yourself. If you have any problems with the edits of an experienced editor, like TRPOD, discuss the edits with them on their talk page, instead of just pasting a user warning on it. Thomas.W talk 16:03, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
FYI for references of number of junior wives.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 18:24, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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This cute kitten is only given to conscientious editors who are experts in the art of citing references and who like to read the References section of an article first! Prhartcom ( talk) 05:10, 19 October 2014 (UTC) |
On 21 October 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Everest (Indian TV series), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that part of Ashutosh Gowariker's Everest has been filmed at over 17,000 feet (5,200 m) above sea level? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Everest (Indian TV series). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:58, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom: You know what? I love to talk about India especially with people who are not of Indian origin. And you being my friend, I would love to recommend some films to you. Firstly, I would like to say that the masala movies don't appeal to me (masala means spices). So I don't like watching films such as Dabangg, Rowdy Rathore and Chennai Express. They may be good for watching on TV at home when you have nothing to do. But not worth 200 or 500 bucks! And even out of these some are so pathetic that they give me a headache. But I will never ever demean Bollywood. Bollywood has also produced some masterpieces, some classics, some evergreen movies which you will cherish for your whole life. I generally look for something new, something classy, something light hearted (not always though! :P) and something appealing. And here is a list of Indian films I love. But before I start the list I would like to clarify that the Indian film industry is not just Bollywood. Bollywood is just the Hindi language film industry which is a part of the Indian film industry. We also have other film industries such as the Bengali film industry (Tollywood), the Tamil film industry (Kollywood), the Gujarati film industry (Dhollywood), the Telugu film industry (even this one's called Tollywood), the Assamese film industry, the Marathi film industry and so on. Basically there is a film industry for each and every Indian language. But it's just that Bollywood is more prominent. So now I begin my list in alphabetical order (I have also tried to add English names for the movies! Some are official English names while others are just translations. I have left those which are difficult to translate; I have also included some age old classics - you may also like this link!):
Satyajit Ray is regarded as one of the greatest auteurs of world cinema. Born in Calcutta into a Bengali family (I'm a Bengali!) Ray has directed a total of 36 films, including feature films, documentaries and shorts. He was also a fiction writer, publisher, illustrator, calligrapher, music composer, graphic designer and film critic. He authored several short stories and novels, primarily aimed at children and adolescents. Feluda is one of the popular fictional characters created by him. He was also awarded honorary doctorate by the Oxford University and he was the second after Charlie Chaplin. Ray also received an Honorary Academy Award (the Oscar!) in 1992 and was decorated by the Bharat Ratna in the same year. He has represented India three times in the Indian submissions for the Oscar Best Foreign Language film award, the most by any director! And here are few of his films that you must (you must you must you must!) watch:
Tamravidhir ( talk!) 12:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
::(P.S - :( Netflix is note yet available in India!)
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05:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom: Sorry Prhartcom! I don't use mail nowadays...and it's really great to hear that you have watched those two Chinese films but if to recommend any one of those nine Indian films I would say watch Kahaani first followed by Jodhaa Akbar (note - if we ignore the fact that Jodhaa Akbar is historically inaccurate then it's wonderful; it is set in the Mughal era during the reign of the thirdrd Mughal emperor Akbar and tells the tale of him and his wife, Jodhaa Bai, a Rajput Hindu). Tamravidhir ( talk!) 17:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Now I won't talk much! But I can bet that if you watch just these six films then you will never forget me and you will fall in love with these... Tamravidhir ( talk!) 06:44, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom:You just reminded me that just this month a film by Vishal Bhardwaj titled Haider was released. And this is nothing but a modern-day adaptation of Hamlet and if to mention then this is the third film of Bhardwaj which is based on a Shakespearean work. The first one being Maqbool (based on Macbeth - Who would have thought the old man to have had so much blood in him?) and the second being Omkara (based on Othello). Okay! I'll watch the 2009 Hamlet! :D Just this month I have thought to start having my personal film collection. So I'm watching as many I can and collecting as many I want to.. Actually a few of the films out of those which I have recommended, I haven't watched yet. You want to know my list of movies to watch this month. So here's it:
Really it's too big! But I promise that by this month I will watch the 2009 Hamlet. Thank you Prhartcom! :) ^_^ Tamravidhir ( talk!) 14:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom:Really!? You have watched Kahaani. Oh my God!!! I can’t believe it! And did you like it? How much a lot? By the way how was it? And did you see my hometown, Calcutta? How was it? You know I have always craved for that outsider’s view. An insider’s view can be biased to a certain extent. You enjoyed it? By the way before watching it did you know the story or the climax? Were you anyhow able to predict it? Did you ever felt bored while watching it? Please Prhartcom, tell na! And please tell the truth. I won’t mind! I am really mad and hysterical now! :P And you know waht Vidya is one of my favourite actresses. I just love her and also this film!!!! Aaaah!!! :P I would really love if you listen to the title song of the film. It isn't in the film but it is in the film's soundtrack album. The link to the female version sung by Shreya Ghoshal is here on YouTube (you must listen to this; you must you must you must!) and that to the male version by KK is here on YouTube. I just love these! And except these you have various other songs from the album; two of them being "Aami Shotti Bolchi" (meaning "I'm Telling the Truth") by Usha Uthup and Vishwesh Krishnamurthy ( link here on YouTube; you must watch this for the video) and the sensational Rabindra Sangeet " Ekla Cholo Re" sung by Big B in the film which is a more modern version of the original one ( here’s the link to the one sung by Big B on YouTube). And by the way I have already watched Psycho. See now I will tell you the name of the English language films falling under this genre which I have watched. And they are...
And I wanna watch Apocalypse Now, Black Christmas (the 1970s one; also known was Silence Night, Evil Night), Jaws, Rear Window, Se7en, The Shawshank Redemption, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, The Shining, The Taxi Driver and Vertigo. Tamravidhir ( talk!) 13:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
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In Everest (Indian TV series), you've created an article that's well-sourced, well-written, well-structured and well, really rather good! Congratulations on an excellent piece of work. Yunshui 雲 水 08:23, 21 October 2014 (UTC) |
I take back my edit. Now I have replaced that with two minor edits.....for both I have added citations. Casey577 ( talk) 19:51, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tamravidhir!
Yum, thanks for the cookies! There're two questions I would like to ask (in case You got lots of user questions: there's no time pressure from my side):
1. If I like to write a requested article, is there any place where I can see if somebody else is already working on or researching for it? So I can avoid double submissions of articles or frustrating some one else's ambitions.
2. If I could write an article about a subject but have no (listable) source for my information (e. g. because the subject is a colloquial or outdated term for something or a regional food specialty with no 100% clear definition etc.), should I write it? Or would unverified content do more bad than good?
Thanks & Best -- Lidanoir ( talk) 16:49, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Good to know a source is basically obligatory. For now, I have two subjects (both listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Arts_and_entertainment#Other_.28non-people_and_non-organization.29) I could write about:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Bachwürfel&action=edit&redlink=1 (It's a confectionary named after composer Johann S. Bach. I have 3 sources from newspapers and the producer company)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Mozart_Cake&action=edit&redlink=1 (A layer cake inspired by the "Mozartkugel" chocolate praline. Could name 3 sources from online recipe books + 1 source from a magazine)
In both cases I could write to the source proprietors asking for free pictures, if convenient.
Best Lidanoir ( talk) 23:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: First: Great, I'll go and start writing the articles. As soon as I have one finished - as a draft like advised - I can hand it in for revision. So it would only appear in the mainspace if approved and if there's a realistic chance it won't be deleted. I'll see what I can do about the images and in case I'd be provided with some, will only upload them to Wikipedia. All Your advice really helps a lot a lot and it's also quite a lot to take in, so I'm glad I can always go back to the manual here. Maybe it takes me a while to finish the first article but I'll be working on it. Thanks again for helping! And before I forget: Somewhere I once read: Not answering to a non-emergency digital message immediately takes the pressure out of a conversation. I totally go with that :-)
Best Lidanoir ( talk) 23:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
"...Not answering to a non-emergency digital message immediately takes the pressure out of a conversation. I totally go with that :-)":( By the like chocolate lake is mozart cake a type of a cake or is it a product or a brand of some company. I really don’t know! :P Like Cadbury Dairy Milk is a brand of chocolate manufactured by Cadbury. If the case is the first one then the “C” in cake should be in lower case as per the manual of style and if it’s the second case then the “C” can be as it is that is in the upper case. And by the way what is mozart? :/ Tamravidhir ( talk!) 08:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Thanks for the sandbox! I'll make a dive for it & for writing. Never mind the obscure quote "...Not answering to a non-emergency digital message immediately takes the pressure out of a conversation. I totally go with that :-)"}} It basically expressed that it is absolutely okay and normal not to answer immediately to a message which is not an emergency, even though the modern means of communication make it possible. Because the quicker one person reacts, say, to a mail or post, the more the other person feels urged to answer as quick or even quicker. So it's like a spiral.
Mozart cake is not a protected brand name. I copied a judicial decision for that to my sources. There is no fixed recipe for it but, as with devil's food cake or neapolitan ice cream, people associate a certain combination of flavors and baking style with it. If You order Mozart cake You'd expect a layer cake made with chocolate batter and a filling of nougat, marzipan and pistachio marzipan (or simply anything pistachio-flavoured). This leads to the answer to "What is mozart?". It's a common denominator of flavors and ingredients (like "Melba" in Melba toast) which all recipes labeled "Mozart" are expected to incorporate. No matter if the recipe is for Mozart liquor, Mozart chocolate or Mozart ice cream (all of which really exist). But since "Mozart" is no protected brand name and has no PDO (protected designation of origin), one could put the name on anything. One might sell a cherry pie as Mozart cake - but one would get in trouble selling a cherry pie as Dresdner Stollen because Stollen has a Protected Designation of Origin. No I really feel like getting myself a nice slice of Stollen which is no problem at all: Christmas candy is around in German supermarkets from about September to Februar :). Invigorated by sugary Stollen I'll then go for writing.
Thanks again & Best Lidanoir ( talk) 18:18, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Forget about the last line in my previous message. I was just trying to make a joke. I'm already working at the article so no worries. You understood the matter about the "mozart" attribute about right. Let's hope my articles are more intelligible than my messages. So bets for now Lidanoir ( talk) 22:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Hi Thamradvidhir! I made the draft for my first article and I also have free images for it in store. Would You be so kind as to take a look at the article? The formatting for me is the hardest part. I just couldn't get the numbers of the references right. Don't worry, the text itself is not very long: [ [1]] I hope it's not automatically deleted by now. It said the sandbox would be regularly cleared. Is there a way I can save my drafts for a longer time without fearing they will suddenly be gone? Thanks for Your help & Bye Lidanoir ( talk) 00:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
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This is a good tool to search for reliable sources on Indian television and films. I hope that it will help you in your work. A few days ago I created Seven Deadly Arts with Akshay Kumar using this tool to find reliable sources. Thanks.-- Skr15081997 ( talk) 12:45, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
you please stop irritating me and wikipedia by nominating deletion for articles with references. Please stop behaving like a mental patient. I'll complain to administrators for banishing you for years. This is a last warning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadman Sakibzz ( talk • contribs) 05:08, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm really sorry for my early behaviour. I used harsh words upon you. Actually I come of a society where a trifling fault leads to listen intense slangs. Very much sorry for my behaviours. At first I was jokingly adding infos without references which I knew but didn't feature in the net. But I've changed now. My articles at least point out some evidences. But of you disagree, you can teach me which kinds of references are allowed. Can I use infos featured in a celeb's facebook fan page? Why my images are always deleted? What it needs for being escaped from patrolled?( User talk:Sadman Sakibzz!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadman Sakibzz ( talk • contribs) 05:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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For your work on the Everest (Indian TV series). Written excellently. Arjann ( talk) 07:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC) |
I'm not in India but abroad and saw the premiere of the show. I felt reading its Wikipedia page. Initially I thought no one must have written about it but you gave me a big surprise. Very nice. Try to add more credits in a section at the bottom of the page if you manage to get it from official sources. Not so necessary but you may. Arjann ( talk) 07:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Re Everest - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not a platform to regurgitate self promotional quotes from involved parties. Removal of such promotional bloat is not in any shape or form "vandalism" . -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:43, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
per the 3O above: what part of "far fewer and far shorter and far less self-serving. do you not understand? Fewer means less - we dont make up 3/4 of the article with quotes. far shorter means that we do not include multiple full paragraph quotes. far less self serving means that we do not have multiple quotes where those involved are breaking their arms patting themselves on the back for what a great job they did. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:51, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I have noticed your recent concentration on the contributions of new editor Sadman Sakibzz. Yes, the stubs he offered are weak, but not all are automatically non-notable simply because they are poorly written or poorly sourced. See WP:NRVE... notability usually depends on sources being available through diligence, and not upon their use in an article. And we try to avoid unnecessary bureaucracy. For example, his many song articles you sent to AFD could have far more easily been set as redirects to the various film articles, and an AFD discussion avoided... an AFD would be proper if someone disagreed and reverted the redirect.
It is generally understood that we have issues when sourcing pre-1990s Indian topics... so unless they are blatant violations of policy and not simply stubby with otherwise addressable issues, we tend to be a bit more patient and in less of a hurry to send them to deletion. Involvement of notables in certain older film projects would seem an assurance that the older films received media attention, even if not online or in English. And look to WP:NF's "other evidence of notability". As an alternative to WP:GNG, older films are often verifiable as part of a national archive, or as a major part of the career of a notable person, or have rescreened years later in festivals or as part of retrospectives.. so you might consider tagging them and see what a few weeks of editorial attention brings. Advise the editor where he might look for sources. Advise him on format and tone and style, as we always have options that are far less bitey to new editors. Thanks, Schmidt, Michael Q. 21:04, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did to Bade Achhe Lagte Hain, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Tellychakkar.com is media wing of PR firm not a reliable source with a rep for fact checking and accuracy. To keep the content add the reliable source to confirm the ratings. Aryan.for.you ( talk) 08:14, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi there, I just saw your question at Yunshui's user talk page. As a rule of thumb, all content published elsewhere is copyrighted and non-free. But there certain exceptions. Files from other websites may be uploaded at Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons if they have been published under a free licence, or their copyright term has expired due to old age. Creative Commons is one such suitable licence but it must include the opportunity for commercial re-use and of the material and derivatives (if you see any of these signs don't upload the file). Flickr has a lot of these free photos but then most of the content from Flickr is marked with a (c), which means it's not free to use and will be removed from Wikipedia or Commons, too.
As to old age, there are two general indicators concerning the term of copyright with lots of complicated subsets:
In the United States, copyright depends on the date of publication. Everything published in the US or abroad before 1923 is not copyrighted in the US, but it may still be copyrighted in the country of origin. European states usually have a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years after which the content becomes public domain.
I hope this little introduction will help you determine if a file is free to re-use at Wikipedia or Commons. If you have more questions, please don't hesitate to ask them here. De728631 ( talk) 16:02, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
@ Tamravidhir: Please understand that when two editors (one established, one very new) have similar editing styles, make similar arguments and, while at the same time asserting everything on that site is unreliable ignore the rest of the "about us" that page, to focus on just one sentence on that page as factual, and being unable or unwilling to support their personal opinions through any actual research into editorial staff to determine if the staff has the expertise required by WP:RS or if the site has the required widespread acceptance... then know that nothing you write will sway them. Their minds are made up through conjecture, not fact. Best to step away and allow others to provide research beyond such personal opinion, and please avoid any useless back-and-forth or WP:WAX. Best not to WP:BLUD the discussion. Schmidt, Michael Q. 18:57, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Bade Achhe Lagte Hain teaser (for episode 166).ogv, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 15:00, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Everest telenovela trailer.ogv, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 15:35, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Kolkata Knight Riders (former logo).png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 16:56, 11 November 2014 (UTC)