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Hi I will be happy to keep share, for slight rearrangement for opening and other lead paragraphs, to coordinate to chapters, and overall "Participation", we started talking about; and for the past days I simultaneously worked further on my computer for the lead and Yugoslavia/Germany statuses and according to your view to keep as footnotes and to get feedback on my suggestion for map option, and such as lead sentence for voting methods I suggested;
As I waited first that you finish the initial draft then brought, in small easier stages, about lead stuff.
So to keep showing you and then help think what specific stuff can be added to the lead, as you greatly, to my opinion, did with Germany! And as you also wrote, as I understood, you keep working on incorporating the countries by decades paragraphs as well as voting methods?
I ask as just saw you moved the article to main space and replied to another you'll be away the next days, thanked him, and plan to submit FA; besides minor tweaks you'll do. If so, can you tell me if FA enables others to keep discussing with the reviewer during the process? Otherwise another way me, and maybe others who will want, for keep giving feedback? Especially the lead should extend. Of course I would most love to keep discussing with you. A reason I was happy to be active again is for seeing your project message, when I appreciate your work and attention over the years. :-) So please let me know how I can proceed during FA or if you are available to keep talking. אומנות ( talk) 16:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah I saw your reasonings on the talk page, and what I mean is that flow approach can also fall under different legitimate views, as part of rearrangement and styling. And as we also did change a lot of stuff in the lead. So I'll just write there comments to briefly explain specific flow problem I still personally feel and my general approach to chapters references in the lead. So maybe will open different possibilities, and for others who may gather opinions and comment. Anyway this will be just in the talk. Thank you for the Hebrew dedication and the birthday wish. 😃 אומנות ( talk) 21:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
At this point there are a number of citation needed templates that have been added to the Eurovision Song Contest article and I'm afraid that after months of waiting for a Good Article review, it has the potential to be quick failed for outstanding maintenance tags. Given that you've written the bulk of the article, would you have time to take a look and see if those sources are already there, but perhaps missing an inline citation? Grk1011 ( talk) 15:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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Amazing job once again! What is your goal for History of the Eurovision Song Contest? Are you thinking FA or GA? It is also probably a good 5x expansion for DYK. Grk1011 ( talk) 13:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
It looks like the Peer Review for Eurovision Song Contest expired with no takers. I would suggest nominating it as well as History of the Eurovision Song Contest for FA at this point. I think several of us have already had a chance to review the articles and any further changes if needed can be accomplished through the FA process. I was just hoping we would have had an outside opinion on the splitting of the articles due to their length... Hopefully that can be addressed during an FA review. Grk1011 ( talk) 13:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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The GA review of Eurovision Song Contest is on hold for an initial seven days to allow concerns regarding Focus, WP:Layout ( MOS:OVERSECTION), and WP:Lead to be dealt with. SilkTork ( talk) 17:29, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Recently we have been working at getting peer review to work better for FACs. I would suggest opening a peer review and make sure to list in {{ FAC peer review sidebar}}, which many reviewers prioritize. Before you do that, I would action all the feedback from the GA review. Also, for FAC you will need an inline citation for every paragraph. Also, although you've done a good job consolidating and spinning off content so far, your article is likely to need more trimming to avoid opposes on the length requirement in the FA criteria; some interpret this as a more or less hard limit at 10,000 words (article is currently 13393 words). Good luck! ( t · c) buidhe 06:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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You have done amazingly well, and have been a pleasure to work with - polite, cooperative, timely, and hard working throughout the review. Well done.
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I award the Editor's Barnstar to Sims2aholic8 in recognition of their work and enthusiasm in significantly improving Eurovision articles on Wikipedia. SilkTork ( talk) 14:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC) |
Keep up the good works! SilkTork ( talk) 14:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
On 14 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that future Atomic Kitten member Jenny Frost (pictured) represented the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999 as part of the group Precious? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTuMOkVlEDs Well, in this video (first Krista Calling episode) Krista is billed as an 'online host' so I think it counts?-- Pdhadam ( talk) 06:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello Sims2aholic8,
Regarding the recent removal of the individual country pages for each participating nation in the Eurovision Dance Contest, I have proposed an alternative on the discussion page. Instead of having the 17 individual articles, could we have just one page similar to the old "List of countries in the Eurovision Dance Contest" page, this could feature the information that was present in the previous individual pages for each article, such as national final details and results, that are notable enough to be covered, but would not be relevant in the main article, so providing the same detail as before, but all in one place. The country links on the other EDC pages, could then all link to the relevant section on this article.
Using the former page for Austria as an example: https://web.archive.org/web/20150517215206/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria_in_the_Eurovision_Dance_Contest We could replace the opening paragraph for these with a brief paragraph at the start of the article, giving basic information stating that there were 17 countries that participated in the two contests, with Belarus planning to debut in the third, which ultimately didn't take place. The info box in the top right could remain as it was, but with the best and worst result removed (as results can be detailed elsewhere on the page, and there are only two entries max from each country.) The link to the page on eurovisiondance.tv could either be removed, or replaced with an archive link to that page, as the original website is no longer active.
The history section could remain as is, with a brief description of that countries 2007 and 2008 participation, and national final details where relevant. The contestants section could remain the same. Voting history could remain the same, but in a drop down box rather than automatically displayed.
I will put together a draft of this in the coming days, and submit for review. The previously deleted pages were once I had spent a long time editing, as a huge fan of this contest, and I had a lot more planned for these. I am keen to work on providing details on this contest as part of Eurovision's history.
I would appreciate any advice or guidance you may have on this. Best wishes WP27
Put together a draft for a proposed new version of the article, just containing Austria at the moment, if you have any feedback that would be great :) /info/en/?search=Draft:Draft_-_Participation_in_the_Eurovision_Dance_Contest Best wishes Wp27 ( talk) 20:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Great job updating those lists of entries pages! Do you have any short term goals you'd like help with? Any GAs, FLs, etc? I could use some motivation to get back into the swing of things. Grk1011 ( talk) 12:52, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hey Sims2aholic8! Nothing in particular, just wanted to leave a thanks message for taking care of all those articles related to ESC 2022. Very much appreciated! 〜 イヴァンスクルージ九十八[IvanScrooge98]( 会話) 21:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Why have you removed almost all articles of old Eurovision songs?!?! it’s so sad and unnecessary, if you could get them back it would be so good, and please tell me why?!?! cause it’s culture 62.116.192.182 ( talk) 12:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi Sims2. While there may sometimes be some suspicion regarding a new IP editor turning up to complain about something, and I think you have done well to explain the situation, it is still worth bearing in mind that IP editors contribute about 1/3 of the positive content to Wikipedia, and that while they are not allowed to vote, etc, they are still deserving of basic courtesies. See Wikipedia:IP editors are human too. We don't wish to give the impression that there are hierarchies of volunteers, and that IP editors are so low on that hierarchy that they are unworthy to even be spoken to. ;-) Anyway, I'll add to what you have already said to 62.116.192.182, that it is standard on Wikipedia for songs of low notability to be redirected or merged into parent articles per WP:NSONG. Regards, SilkTork ( talk) 11:35, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm looking into some of those song redirects and merges mentioned above. I note that you appropriately remove unsourced material, particularly material which is not factual, and may be the opinion of a Wikipedia editor, when tidying up after a merge. Sometimes, though, some sourced factual material is removed, as here: [1] in Netherlands in the Eurovision Song Contest 1956, where you removed "The winning title which means "The birds of Holland", was written by Annie M. G. Schmidt and composed by Cor Lemaire.<ref name=crommert>{{cite news|url=http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/article20445196.ece|title=Jetty Pearl vandaag jarig|last=Crommert|first=Richard van de|date=27 May 2010|work=[[De Telegraaf]]|language=nl|access-date=6 October 2013}}</ref>" (the source is available on web.archive: [2]). What is the thinking behind that removal? SilkTork ( talk) 12:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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A much deserved barnstar in recognition of your efforts to not only propose large scale changes, but to work tirelessly to carry them out day after day! Your work does not go unnoticed! Grk1011 ( talk) 17:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC) |
This quite small section was not carte blanche for you to redirect every single song ever sung at Eurovision that has a stub article. Plenty of these songs that you redirected are notable per WP:NSONGS. "Almost all of the information is covered at the country's Eurovision article". No, it isn't, because those sorts of articles would never have the variety of chart positions and such on them. Now by all means, point out that WP:NSONGS says "charting alone doesn't make a song notable", but you can take these songs to AfD and I'd love to know what all the editors there will say to you. They will tell you that means the coverage is currently out there on the songs but that the articles do not have currently have the sources on them. Stub does not equal "should be redirected", and I urge you to not edit war to retain redirects. You already reverted Tobyjamesaus on Don't Come Easy, which constitutes an edit war. You do not have the right to re-revert an article that has a claim of notability if you've been reverted for redirecting it; any admin will tell you this is edit warring and you should take it to AfD. If you intend to keep doing this, you can explain to an administrator why you're redirecting articles for songs that charted in 10 countries.
Utterly ridiculous that you think some small discussion with three other editors in December 2021 gives you free reign to redirect any Eurovision topic that is tagged as being a stub. Please stop. Ss 112 06:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
[n]otability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album.In my opinion a great deal of the articles I blanked-and-redirected fell under this guidance, and therefore I presented a bold suggestion to redirect these articles as backed up by the guidance available to me, which subsequently was challenged. As you can see from the related discussion on the WikiProject Eurovision talk page there are a lot of feelings on both sides. On your point around
a small discussion of four people, how is this much different to the AfD discussions which I initiated on the articles Ss112 reverted, some of which were apparently SNOW closed with only two or three votes to keep? Either way, at this point I believe this to be a closed subject, and I would personally like to move on. Sims2aholic8 ( talk) 12:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
redirect[ed] half the 2021 entries in one night, I redirected five articles from 2021 (out of 40) and eleven from 2020 (out of 41), leaving the majority of them untouched, all of which contained the barest of material, so definitely not the half you are claiming. I laid low for a week because I was seriously considering what impact I can have on here when this is the reaction I get for trying to do the right thing and tidy up some clutter (which has been supported by other users), and whether I actually want to contribute to Wikipedia anymore, but I can see now I maybe should have just stayed away. Maybe I just misread the tone of the conversation earlier, that I thought that limiting redirects to just those which are barely sourced and contain almost all replicated information to other articles would be supported, but I was clearly wrong in that regard, like I was clearly wrong on so many things. In case it needs to be spelt out here, I'm stopping. Sims2aholic8 ( talk) 08:23, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I'm a bit concerned that, after so many of those WP:AFDs closing as keep, that you're returning to redirecting the same sort of articles again. It seems pretty clear that the community has taken a stance against that, and as such, your actions in doing this is disruptive. This is a final warning to stop this. Find a different project to work on. You need to stop doing this. Sergecross73 msg me 03:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
[n]otability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album), and WP:BLAR) but clearly not as it turns out, at least according to Ss112. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sims2aholic8 ( talk • contribs)
You have not explained how the newer edits somehow go against consensus.The "consensus" was there is no longer a consensus to mass redirect articles. Redirecting 16 articles in a short span of time is what I consider mass redirection. If you dispute that that is mass redirection, I don't know what to say to you. There was no comment on the quality of articles either here or on the Eurovision WikiProject talk page—I thought it was clear it should stop regardless of what quality the articles were. I'm sure a lot of those 2020 Eurovision entries could be expanded, as could the hundreds of previous ones redirected over the last few months. I feel I am just repeating myself at this point anyway, so as I said, I'm done here and I'm no longer going to feel compelled to check up on any further arguments. I am certain there is plenty more to do on Wikipedia, including in relation to Eurovision articles, without mass redirecting them or arguing about which should be redirected. Ss 112 17:58, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I just noticed that it was you that uploaded all of those photos to Commons from the contest. You got to go?? That's awesome! I miss the excitement of seeing your contributions around here. Hope you're doing well! Grk1011 ( talk) 15:05, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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On 13 June 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although the Eurovision Song Contest 2020 was cancelled, Iceland's planned entry for that year was chosen as the alternative winner in several countries, including Sweden and Australia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hey, why would you make this edit? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1097220816 Idoc07 ( talk) 10:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
First you delete articles about almost every Eurovision entry so any information about songwriters and interesting trivia about songs, their lyrics and the way they were selected is unavailable. Then you delete articles about countries' participations in individual years, so national selection line-ups and result breakdowns are gone. Then you decide to switch the columns showing places and points received every year, which is UGLY because the order has been points following place since forever. Wikipedia has been the most convenient place to easily get information and statistics of Eurovision, but you single-handedly made it completely unusable. Thanks, I guess. 90.131.37.131 ( talk) 06:02, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I understand that it has taken time for you to change the format, but I cannot read it. I have difficulties reading large tables such as the ones that you have added. Is there any way that you could add the old tables along with the new ones, so that the results are apparent in the new table form and the old one, just for ease of interpretation? Spamalama ( talk) 20:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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who are you to decide when = is redundant or not, it reminds the reader that the entry has finished in the same place as another entry if they sort the results by anything other than finishing place Bielzebub1981 ( talk) 03:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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On 30 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eurovision Song Contest 1956, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that voting in the first Eurovision Song Contest was conducted in secret, with countries able to vote for their own entries, and only the winner of the contest being announced? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1956. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Eurovision Song Contest 1956), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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I assume most of this is vandalism, but since I know nothing about the subject and perhaps one or two of the edits are correct I thought I would ask you to take a look. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 14:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
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It's odd that the ALT0 citation appears behind a paywall for you. Doesn't for me. But anyway, thanks for the review. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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Hello Sims3aholic8. I declined your proposed technical move of Mana Mou because it would create a WP:double redirect and would become a target for cleanup by the bots. If you want a note made somewhere about the best capitalization of the song name, you could post something at Talk:Mana Mou since that talk page still exists. EdJohnston ( talk) 16:45, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
On 6 October 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eurovision Song Contest 1957, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite a song duration limit of three minutes and thirty seconds at the Eurovision Song Contest 1957, the entry from Italy lasted over five minutes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1957. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Eurovision Song Contest 1957), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Please see this suggestion, then I'll get back to you within the next week regarding a couple of point raised by your recent amendments to my edits of Eurovision Song Contest 1996.
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Hello @ Sims2aholic8 i have a question is it possible that there is a wikipedia of a known macedonian musician artist that you confirm the wikipedia, is translated from macedonian wikipedia, and as i see all artists who are already verified on social media all have a wikipedia so i have one please to you for confirming the wikipedia if everything is in okay
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Yesterday you reverted my edit in the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 page when I added the song name for France. I thought I didn't need to add a source because other non-released songs like "What They Say" (Greece) and "Unicorn" (Israel) don't have sources attached to them. In conclusion, I don't understand why "Évidemment" needs a source while "What They Say" and "Unicorn" don't. DSOFOreverTYU ~ talk ~ Eurovision 15:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Today, you reverted my edit in the page Estonia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2023. I made the edit because it said: "while Stefan, who represented Estonia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022, the group Púr Múdd.......", and the "while" doesn't continue to anything, you can't just write "while ___ who ___" and then move on to something else. DSOFOreverTYU ~ talk ~ Eurovision 17:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Today, you changed the article about Serbia at Eurovision Song Contest 2020, 2022 and 2023 in the part related to the OGAE Serbia Award. Why are you persistently deleting a table that has been there for a long time? Vlada jov ( talk) 17:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
The article meets all 5 of the notability guildelines, and it does not go against WP:INDISCRIMINATE, so why would it not be eligible for a stand-alone article? ImStevan ( talk) 09:41, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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Hi I will be happy to keep share, for slight rearrangement for opening and other lead paragraphs, to coordinate to chapters, and overall "Participation", we started talking about; and for the past days I simultaneously worked further on my computer for the lead and Yugoslavia/Germany statuses and according to your view to keep as footnotes and to get feedback on my suggestion for map option, and such as lead sentence for voting methods I suggested;
As I waited first that you finish the initial draft then brought, in small easier stages, about lead stuff.
So to keep showing you and then help think what specific stuff can be added to the lead, as you greatly, to my opinion, did with Germany! And as you also wrote, as I understood, you keep working on incorporating the countries by decades paragraphs as well as voting methods?
I ask as just saw you moved the article to main space and replied to another you'll be away the next days, thanked him, and plan to submit FA; besides minor tweaks you'll do. If so, can you tell me if FA enables others to keep discussing with the reviewer during the process? Otherwise another way me, and maybe others who will want, for keep giving feedback? Especially the lead should extend. Of course I would most love to keep discussing with you. A reason I was happy to be active again is for seeing your project message, when I appreciate your work and attention over the years. :-) So please let me know how I can proceed during FA or if you are available to keep talking. אומנות ( talk) 16:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah I saw your reasonings on the talk page, and what I mean is that flow approach can also fall under different legitimate views, as part of rearrangement and styling. And as we also did change a lot of stuff in the lead. So I'll just write there comments to briefly explain specific flow problem I still personally feel and my general approach to chapters references in the lead. So maybe will open different possibilities, and for others who may gather opinions and comment. Anyway this will be just in the talk. Thank you for the Hebrew dedication and the birthday wish. 😃 אומנות ( talk) 21:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
At this point there are a number of citation needed templates that have been added to the Eurovision Song Contest article and I'm afraid that after months of waiting for a Good Article review, it has the potential to be quick failed for outstanding maintenance tags. Given that you've written the bulk of the article, would you have time to take a look and see if those sources are already there, but perhaps missing an inline citation? Grk1011 ( talk) 15:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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Amazing job once again! What is your goal for History of the Eurovision Song Contest? Are you thinking FA or GA? It is also probably a good 5x expansion for DYK. Grk1011 ( talk) 13:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
It looks like the Peer Review for Eurovision Song Contest expired with no takers. I would suggest nominating it as well as History of the Eurovision Song Contest for FA at this point. I think several of us have already had a chance to review the articles and any further changes if needed can be accomplished through the FA process. I was just hoping we would have had an outside opinion on the splitting of the articles due to their length... Hopefully that can be addressed during an FA review. Grk1011 ( talk) 13:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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You have done amazingly well, and have been a pleasure to work with - polite, cooperative, timely, and hard working throughout the review. Well done.
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Keep up the good works! SilkTork ( talk) 14:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
On 14 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that future Atomic Kitten member Jenny Frost (pictured) represented the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999 as part of the group Precious? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1999), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTuMOkVlEDs Well, in this video (first Krista Calling episode) Krista is billed as an 'online host' so I think it counts?-- Pdhadam ( talk) 06:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello Sims2aholic8,
Regarding the recent removal of the individual country pages for each participating nation in the Eurovision Dance Contest, I have proposed an alternative on the discussion page. Instead of having the 17 individual articles, could we have just one page similar to the old "List of countries in the Eurovision Dance Contest" page, this could feature the information that was present in the previous individual pages for each article, such as national final details and results, that are notable enough to be covered, but would not be relevant in the main article, so providing the same detail as before, but all in one place. The country links on the other EDC pages, could then all link to the relevant section on this article.
Using the former page for Austria as an example: https://web.archive.org/web/20150517215206/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria_in_the_Eurovision_Dance_Contest We could replace the opening paragraph for these with a brief paragraph at the start of the article, giving basic information stating that there were 17 countries that participated in the two contests, with Belarus planning to debut in the third, which ultimately didn't take place. The info box in the top right could remain as it was, but with the best and worst result removed (as results can be detailed elsewhere on the page, and there are only two entries max from each country.) The link to the page on eurovisiondance.tv could either be removed, or replaced with an archive link to that page, as the original website is no longer active.
The history section could remain as is, with a brief description of that countries 2007 and 2008 participation, and national final details where relevant. The contestants section could remain the same. Voting history could remain the same, but in a drop down box rather than automatically displayed.
I will put together a draft of this in the coming days, and submit for review. The previously deleted pages were once I had spent a long time editing, as a huge fan of this contest, and I had a lot more planned for these. I am keen to work on providing details on this contest as part of Eurovision's history.
I would appreciate any advice or guidance you may have on this. Best wishes WP27
Put together a draft for a proposed new version of the article, just containing Austria at the moment, if you have any feedback that would be great :) /info/en/?search=Draft:Draft_-_Participation_in_the_Eurovision_Dance_Contest Best wishes Wp27 ( talk) 20:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Great job updating those lists of entries pages! Do you have any short term goals you'd like help with? Any GAs, FLs, etc? I could use some motivation to get back into the swing of things. Grk1011 ( talk) 12:52, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hey Sims2aholic8! Nothing in particular, just wanted to leave a thanks message for taking care of all those articles related to ESC 2022. Very much appreciated! 〜 イヴァンスクルージ九十八[IvanScrooge98]( 会話) 21:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Why have you removed almost all articles of old Eurovision songs?!?! it’s so sad and unnecessary, if you could get them back it would be so good, and please tell me why?!?! cause it’s culture 62.116.192.182 ( talk) 12:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi Sims2. While there may sometimes be some suspicion regarding a new IP editor turning up to complain about something, and I think you have done well to explain the situation, it is still worth bearing in mind that IP editors contribute about 1/3 of the positive content to Wikipedia, and that while they are not allowed to vote, etc, they are still deserving of basic courtesies. See Wikipedia:IP editors are human too. We don't wish to give the impression that there are hierarchies of volunteers, and that IP editors are so low on that hierarchy that they are unworthy to even be spoken to. ;-) Anyway, I'll add to what you have already said to 62.116.192.182, that it is standard on Wikipedia for songs of low notability to be redirected or merged into parent articles per WP:NSONG. Regards, SilkTork ( talk) 11:35, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm looking into some of those song redirects and merges mentioned above. I note that you appropriately remove unsourced material, particularly material which is not factual, and may be the opinion of a Wikipedia editor, when tidying up after a merge. Sometimes, though, some sourced factual material is removed, as here: [1] in Netherlands in the Eurovision Song Contest 1956, where you removed "The winning title which means "The birds of Holland", was written by Annie M. G. Schmidt and composed by Cor Lemaire.<ref name=crommert>{{cite news|url=http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/article20445196.ece|title=Jetty Pearl vandaag jarig|last=Crommert|first=Richard van de|date=27 May 2010|work=[[De Telegraaf]]|language=nl|access-date=6 October 2013}}</ref>" (the source is available on web.archive: [2]). What is the thinking behind that removal? SilkTork ( talk) 12:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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This quite small section was not carte blanche for you to redirect every single song ever sung at Eurovision that has a stub article. Plenty of these songs that you redirected are notable per WP:NSONGS. "Almost all of the information is covered at the country's Eurovision article". No, it isn't, because those sorts of articles would never have the variety of chart positions and such on them. Now by all means, point out that WP:NSONGS says "charting alone doesn't make a song notable", but you can take these songs to AfD and I'd love to know what all the editors there will say to you. They will tell you that means the coverage is currently out there on the songs but that the articles do not have currently have the sources on them. Stub does not equal "should be redirected", and I urge you to not edit war to retain redirects. You already reverted Tobyjamesaus on Don't Come Easy, which constitutes an edit war. You do not have the right to re-revert an article that has a claim of notability if you've been reverted for redirecting it; any admin will tell you this is edit warring and you should take it to AfD. If you intend to keep doing this, you can explain to an administrator why you're redirecting articles for songs that charted in 10 countries.
Utterly ridiculous that you think some small discussion with three other editors in December 2021 gives you free reign to redirect any Eurovision topic that is tagged as being a stub. Please stop. Ss 112 06:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
[n]otability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album.In my opinion a great deal of the articles I blanked-and-redirected fell under this guidance, and therefore I presented a bold suggestion to redirect these articles as backed up by the guidance available to me, which subsequently was challenged. As you can see from the related discussion on the WikiProject Eurovision talk page there are a lot of feelings on both sides. On your point around
a small discussion of four people, how is this much different to the AfD discussions which I initiated on the articles Ss112 reverted, some of which were apparently SNOW closed with only two or three votes to keep? Either way, at this point I believe this to be a closed subject, and I would personally like to move on. Sims2aholic8 ( talk) 12:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
redirect[ed] half the 2021 entries in one night, I redirected five articles from 2021 (out of 40) and eleven from 2020 (out of 41), leaving the majority of them untouched, all of which contained the barest of material, so definitely not the half you are claiming. I laid low for a week because I was seriously considering what impact I can have on here when this is the reaction I get for trying to do the right thing and tidy up some clutter (which has been supported by other users), and whether I actually want to contribute to Wikipedia anymore, but I can see now I maybe should have just stayed away. Maybe I just misread the tone of the conversation earlier, that I thought that limiting redirects to just those which are barely sourced and contain almost all replicated information to other articles would be supported, but I was clearly wrong in that regard, like I was clearly wrong on so many things. In case it needs to be spelt out here, I'm stopping. Sims2aholic8 ( talk) 08:23, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I'm a bit concerned that, after so many of those WP:AFDs closing as keep, that you're returning to redirecting the same sort of articles again. It seems pretty clear that the community has taken a stance against that, and as such, your actions in doing this is disruptive. This is a final warning to stop this. Find a different project to work on. You need to stop doing this. Sergecross73 msg me 03:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
[n]otability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album), and WP:BLAR) but clearly not as it turns out, at least according to Ss112. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sims2aholic8 ( talk • contribs)
You have not explained how the newer edits somehow go against consensus.The "consensus" was there is no longer a consensus to mass redirect articles. Redirecting 16 articles in a short span of time is what I consider mass redirection. If you dispute that that is mass redirection, I don't know what to say to you. There was no comment on the quality of articles either here or on the Eurovision WikiProject talk page—I thought it was clear it should stop regardless of what quality the articles were. I'm sure a lot of those 2020 Eurovision entries could be expanded, as could the hundreds of previous ones redirected over the last few months. I feel I am just repeating myself at this point anyway, so as I said, I'm done here and I'm no longer going to feel compelled to check up on any further arguments. I am certain there is plenty more to do on Wikipedia, including in relation to Eurovision articles, without mass redirecting them or arguing about which should be redirected. Ss 112 17:58, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I just noticed that it was you that uploaded all of those photos to Commons from the contest. You got to go?? That's awesome! I miss the excitement of seeing your contributions around here. Hope you're doing well! Grk1011 ( talk) 15:05, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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On 13 June 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although the Eurovision Song Contest 2020 was cancelled, Iceland's planned entry for that year was chosen as the alternative winner in several countries, including Sweden and Australia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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On 15 June 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2021, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Ja Ja Ding Dong Guy announced the points from Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2021? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2021. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2021), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hey, why would you make this edit? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1097220816 Idoc07 ( talk) 10:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
First you delete articles about almost every Eurovision entry so any information about songwriters and interesting trivia about songs, their lyrics and the way they were selected is unavailable. Then you delete articles about countries' participations in individual years, so national selection line-ups and result breakdowns are gone. Then you decide to switch the columns showing places and points received every year, which is UGLY because the order has been points following place since forever. Wikipedia has been the most convenient place to easily get information and statistics of Eurovision, but you single-handedly made it completely unusable. Thanks, I guess. 90.131.37.131 ( talk) 06:02, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I understand that it has taken time for you to change the format, but I cannot read it. I have difficulties reading large tables such as the ones that you have added. Is there any way that you could add the old tables along with the new ones, so that the results are apparent in the new table form and the old one, just for ease of interpretation? Spamalama ( talk) 20:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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who are you to decide when = is redundant or not, it reminds the reader that the entry has finished in the same place as another entry if they sort the results by anything other than finishing place Bielzebub1981 ( talk) 03:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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On 30 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eurovision Song Contest 1956, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that voting in the first Eurovision Song Contest was conducted in secret, with countries able to vote for their own entries, and only the winner of the contest being announced? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1956. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Eurovision Song Contest 1956), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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I assume most of this is vandalism, but since I know nothing about the subject and perhaps one or two of the edits are correct I thought I would ask you to take a look. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 14:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
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It's odd that the ALT0 citation appears behind a paywall for you. Doesn't for me. But anyway, thanks for the review. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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Hello Sims3aholic8. I declined your proposed technical move of Mana Mou because it would create a WP:double redirect and would become a target for cleanup by the bots. If you want a note made somewhere about the best capitalization of the song name, you could post something at Talk:Mana Mou since that talk page still exists. EdJohnston ( talk) 16:45, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
On 6 October 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eurovision Song Contest 1957, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite a song duration limit of three minutes and thirty seconds at the Eurovision Song Contest 1957, the entry from Italy lasted over five minutes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1957. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Eurovision Song Contest 1957), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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On 20 November 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eurovision Song Contest 1998, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dana International, winner of the Eurovision Song Contest 1998, received death threats following her selection to compete? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1998. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Eurovision Song Contest 1998), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Please see this suggestion, then I'll get back to you within the next week regarding a couple of point raised by your recent amendments to my edits of Eurovision Song Contest 1996.
( Edwin of Northumbria ( talk) 18:10, 6 January 2023 (UTC))
On 13 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eurovision Song Contest 1997, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Paul Oscar (pictured), Iceland's participant at the Eurovision Song Contest 1997, was the contest's first openly LGBT artist to compete? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1997/1. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Eurovision Song Contest 1997), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hello @ Sims2aholic8 i have a question is it possible that there is a wikipedia of a known macedonian musician artist that you confirm the wikipedia, is translated from macedonian wikipedia, and as i see all artists who are already verified on social media all have a wikipedia so i have one please to you for confirming the wikipedia if everything is in okay
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Yesterday you reverted my edit in the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 page when I added the song name for France. I thought I didn't need to add a source because other non-released songs like "What They Say" (Greece) and "Unicorn" (Israel) don't have sources attached to them. In conclusion, I don't understand why "Évidemment" needs a source while "What They Say" and "Unicorn" don't. DSOFOreverTYU ~ talk ~ Eurovision 15:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Today, you reverted my edit in the page Estonia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2023. I made the edit because it said: "while Stefan, who represented Estonia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022, the group Púr Múdd.......", and the "while" doesn't continue to anything, you can't just write "while ___ who ___" and then move on to something else. DSOFOreverTYU ~ talk ~ Eurovision 17:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Today, you changed the article about Serbia at Eurovision Song Contest 2020, 2022 and 2023 in the part related to the OGAE Serbia Award. Why are you persistently deleting a table that has been there for a long time? Vlada jov ( talk) 17:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
The article meets all 5 of the notability guildelines, and it does not go against WP:INDISCRIMINATE, so why would it not be eligible for a stand-alone article? ImStevan ( talk) 09:41, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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