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One challenge we have at Wikipedia is that it is considered acceptable to add a template to an article noting a requirement for an improvement, and to never check back. While some editors do this, many do not (and I'm probably guilty of this at times). Many new editors assume that is a template is added, and they address the problems, the template will go away. A very reasonable assumption. Unfortunately, false.
In some specific cases, such as a request for a specific citation, this doe occur, but if the request is general cleanup, another editor looking at it may not know what the first editor had in mind.
In my early days at Wikipedia, I saw an article with a note that it needed more references. So I added a few. No change in message. I added a few more. Still no change. I added seventeen references, and when the message didn't change, i asked someone, and found out I had the right to remove it when I thought there were enough.
Frankly, I'd like to see a better system, but I haven't come up with a good alternative.
I think Little Thetford looks quite nice, so I removed the template. No article is ever perfect, so don't hesitate to continue editing if you can improve it, but my apologies for the frustration you felt—I've been there.-- SPhilbrick T 00:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The above is most welcome to me. Thank you for clearing that up. You are now monitoring a very relieved editor! -- Senra ( talk) 12:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}} Using the automated external links checker on Little Thetford gives three errors
I have read through the help file and searched wikipedia for help on this issue without success. I am obviously looking in the wrong place. My suspicion is that errors (1) and (2) are due to the BBC showing a different URL to the internet outside the UK meaning that those outside the UK may see only a 404 error. I suspect that the particular subset of data that the Vision of Britain link is accessing requires access from UK only too. I may be wrong in my analysis. In any case, right or wrong, I do not know how to fix the errors.
-- Senra ( talk) 00:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}}
Little Thetford is a parish in the ward of Stretham. That being said, I suspect that the parameter infobox-->civil_parish should not be present for this village. Could that be confirmed please?-- Senra ( talk) 18:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Little Thetford I've struck some of the comments which have been dealt with & added some further comments/explanations. Nothing came across as defensive & you are welcome to reject/ignore anything I suggest - often there is no right & wrong & we develop these things by working towards consensus. Let mke know if you'd like further help (particularly with notes & references) but I don't want to interfere too much.— Rod talk 08:22, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Acknowledged Any help is really appreciated as this is my first article. I am just feeling my way around. -- Senra ( talk) 12:46, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
In response to your request, I have restored the version of this page as you left it at 20:19 last night. I'll tell you how later - no time at the moment! Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 12:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra, Just dropping in to say that just because you are new to Wikipedia, it doesn't mean that you can't feedback on other peoples' articles. The feedback you left for Frangipani (file system) was really good and I am sure the author will find it helpful. BTW, are you the author of 'Little Thetford'? I think I may have reviewed it. I thought it was really interesting. -- Ykraps ( talk) 17:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Just in case you don't see the reply on my talk page, I think this is a nice article that could easily be worked up to become a GA during the review period, so don't withdraw its nomination. I sense how how keen you are to improve this article, so let me know if it's not picked up for review within a couple of days, and I'll do it myself. Good luck. Malleus Fatuorum 20:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
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Was taking a look at John W. R. Taylor. I think it is WP:COPYVIO. Would someone 2nd opinion for me please. Compare article with Jane's editors. -- Senra ( talk) 21:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I like to keep conversations together, but wasn't sure whether you had watchlisted my page.-- SPhilbrick T 16:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
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Your feedback is more welcome that you may realize. I spend a fair amount of time at Requests for feedback (although I've been a bit deficient lately.) It can sometimes be discouraging to spend time reviewing a draft, making suggestions, then never hearing again. Your decision to reach out and thank me helps make up for a least a dozen who don't remember.
I also see an inconsistent treatment of new editors. Some regulars are very helpful, but this is a Byzantine place to newcomers, and we need to do more. I think we need to work harder with new editors—you may be the perfect example of an editors who is turning into a treasure, but might easily have been turned off.
Finally, a tad of jealously - I've been here for some time now and don't yet have a GA. To be fair, I haven't tried, and it is on my list of things to do, but I view a GA as a significant accomplishment, so major kudos to you. (I just checked, and it is quite a nice article). I seriously am interested in helping people, especially someone as promising as you, so don't hesitate to ask if you find policies frustrating. I may not have the immediate answer, but I've seen enough to know where to look.
(I normally like to keep conversation together, so I started to post on my page and link to you, but I want the kudos on your page.)-- SPhilbrick T 17:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Wow, you really have been busy and you deserve the GA status. May be you could drop in on Christchurch, Dorset and give me some feedback! It is a project I've been working on for a while now and would eventually like to see it go GA. Congratulations once again.-- Ykraps ( talk) 18:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Did an editor ask for a review of Christchurch, Dorset? if so where? I would agree with all your comments but would have more to make (about unsourced paragraphs etc). If they hadn't asked for a review & I was just looking at the page I would probably just go & do some of the edits (eg the broken link found by wildbot). You could up the start to a C to reward the development they have put in.— Rod talk 20:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra, thanks for the feedback and as I said before, just because you are new it doesn't mean you don't have anything valuable to say.
I have only been editing for 3 months so I think I am new too.
I started because there was a dispute on the
Nelson talk page and so I created the article
'The Nelson Touch'. It is this area of history that really interests me but when I saw the article on Christchurch I was disappointed. The town has a rich history and deserved more than the few lines given it.
I have not long finished (not really, I could add more) the history section and have just started to look at other areas so it is very much a work in progress. I didn't mean to give the impression that it was finished.
Anyway with regards to your feedback:
Thanks again for the feedback.-- Ykraps ( talk) 10:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra,
Thanks for doing the info box and lead. I like the picture you chose. Out of the ones there it would have been my choice. I'll probably play around with the lead a bit but it's a very good start. I didn't get your other messages for some reason, they didn't appear as 'new message' on my user page. Thanks again for your input.--
Ykraps (
talk)
07:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
{{
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I am interested in obtaining the image
flesh-hook] to go along with the new page, currently in my user space at
Little Thetford flesh hook. Does anyone know if wikipedia qualifies for the free non-commercial use of
British Museum images? --
Senra (
talk)
18:49, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've moved your request ( diff) to the more appropriate project page WP:GLAM/BM/Photos requested. Fæ ( talk) 09:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}} I made a mistake. I am not certain how to fix it correctly.
I started a new article, which is currently in draft form at Little Thetford flesh-hook. The article, after review, is intended to be put into wikipedia (main-space?) at Little Thetford flesh-hook as a similar article to Dunaverney flesh-hook. I do not want to put the draft article into main-space (is that the right term?) yet, until it is ready. For example, I am waiting for clearance for an image amongst other things. However, when I do, I want to preserve links and edit history etc.
Now, I have just realised today that I have created the draft in talk-space (is that the right term?) instead of user-space (again, is this correct?). There is a complication (there always is). I have referenced [[User_talk:Senra/Flesh-hook]] in a few places, whilst constructing the article; not only within the [[en.wikipedia.org/]] universe (erm, just talk pages though), but also outside it—such as in emails to the British Museum.
Therefore, how do I move the draft article to user-space, preserving links and edit history, and then eventually (though not yet), move it to main-space, again, preserving links and edit history? As an aside, am I correct in thinking in future, I should produce draft articles within user-space not talk-space? Is space the final frontier? -- Senra ( talk) 16:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
The 'prefix' part, "User:Serna/..." or "User talk:Serna..." means it's in your userspace, whereas live articles have no such prefix.
To avoid exploding heads, I've done it for you; I moved it to Little Thetford flesh-hook. It's live. I'll make a 'disambiguation page' called Flesh-hook in a sec too, and fix redirects and things.
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{{ helpme}} Not wishing to be ungrateful but erm Little Thetford flesh-hook is live? Not what I really wanted. The issue is I was trying to create an article suitable for DYK and they have limtis for new articles of 5 days and I do not yet have an inage for the article but am working on getting an image via the british museum and it is dinner time now and I have to go but I am really grateful and all but can it be moved back its talk page or more acurately moved to my user space instead of my talk page and thanks but got ot go -- Senra ( talk) 18:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
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Really sorry about another helpme. As usual, I am trying to do things correctly without messing up wikipedia. Respondents please note. I am willing, and (once I read the relevant help pages) able, to carry out the below myself. I am simply asking for advice on names and redirects.
I am about to move User:Little Thetford flesh-hook to Little Thetford flesh-hook. However I thought I had better explore the names and redirects that might be associated with this page once it gets to main-space. Note the following:
I am thus inclined to
Does the above sound reasonable? Have I missed anything? -- Senra ( talk) 12:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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Looks like someone changed a spelling,creating an inconsistency. I'm agnostic regarding which spelling is used, but I think you'll agree that the spelling in the article should match the spelling in the DYK hook. If you are fine with the editor's change, either edit the nomination, or tell me and I will.If you disagree with the author's chge please resolve it with the editor so it doesn't create a mismatch while the hook is on the front page. -- SPhilbrick T 16:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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something bad has happend here above me from DYK downwards
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As an aside, I saw something you wrote that used the word "berewick". I grew up in a town called Berwick, which I assume is named after the English town Berwick, which itself was named after somebody. But I hadn't thought through where it originally came form. I see here that berewick is related to barley farm, I wonder if that is the source of Berwick. Seems likely.-- SPhilbrick T 00:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Little Thetford was described in the Domesday Book as a berewick of Ely, Cambridgeshire.
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{{ helpme}} At Template_talk:Did_you_know#.C3.86lfwaru I am struggling to discover the etymology of Ælfwaru. Where is the most appropriate place to find a reasonably rapid response to such a query? -- Senra ( talk) 10:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I wasn't aware of the "FA Team" & looking at it I doubt if it is still active. I would suggest going back to Peer Review & make it clear that this time you are aiming towards FAC. Eventually you get to a point where you just have to nominate it & take the flak that comes from the reviewers.— Rod talk 17:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Honest! -- Senra ( talk) 22:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
First off, please understand that I know almost nothing about European archaeology; what little I know of archaeology is almost all eastern North America.
The reason that I added it to the Britain category is that obviously an artefact found in the UK is British archaeology. Removing the European category and removing the overall Archaeology category were both for the same reason — an article should almost never be in both Category A and Category B if one of the two is a subcategory of the other; Bronze Age Britain is obviously in Bronze Age Europe, and Archaeological artefacts is likewise in Archaeology. Since categories are meant to help readers find related pages, we split categories such as Bronze Age Europe into Greece, Britain, and Scotland for multiple reasons: among other things, we thereby help readers interested specifically in Scotland to find Scottish sites and we help readers not at all interested in Greece to find the non-Greek sites that they want. If we put all the British sites in the European category as well, it wouldn't really help to have the British category, because all of them are also in the European category. That all being said, there might be a good reason for putting it in both that I'm not understanding. You might want to try to ask for advice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Archaeology, but be aware that I left a note there in late April that never got a response. Another way you could get advice is to ask professional archaeologist Dr. William Whittaker; while he's an American archaeologist, he might be able to point you to users who are more familiar with European archaeology.
Finally, let me say thanks for a great article! I often write about American archaeology, but my topics are archaeological sites such as the Moar Mound and Village Site; I'm amazed that you were able to find enough information to write an article about a single artefact. Nyttend ( talk) 14:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
... In Grunty Fen, near Ely, a gold torque, weighing 4 oz. and 3 grains, and 42 inches long exclusive of the solid ends, was found in 1845, ...
I've now taken a look at the article and have searched around for other sources, but I can't find anything more, and your work on it looks great. Warofdreams talk 20:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. (regarding Hosa Technology)
The notice was placed by another edit. I’m going to write some comment, and place a copy with you, and with the editor who placed the notice. In many cases, an editor who places a notice doesn’t take care to monitor to see if the improvements occur; I have reason to believe this particular editor cares enough to follow up.
I’m concerned I may have left a false impression. First, Wikipedia is an odd place – it is ”staffed” by volunteers, each of whom has some freedom to made their own judgments. While there are policies and guidelines, seemingly to cover anything, there’s still a fair bit of leeway for individual judgment.
The creation of the article Wizard to help new editors start an article is new. It automatically places a draft article in user space, and in some circumstances, such as your case, someone else has to make the judgment on whether it is ready for main space. No one, to the best of my knowledge, has articulated rules on what requirements should be met to move such an article, so I have my own, which I think are reasonable. In short, I apply a very low threshold, which means I am often willing to move an article that I personally think has some problems. I don’t move an article if I think it is in such bad shape that it is likely to get a speedy deletion, which might happen if, for example, it were a biography with no references. However, I would be willing to move it if I think the number of references is marginal, on the chance that the community might decide it is fine.
I’m taking a long time to explain that my decision to move is not my considered opinion that the article is fine, just that it is good enough to meet minimum requirements, and good enough that editors will respond to it with either suggestions for improvements, or, even better, actual improvements, instead of proposing that it simply be deleted.
Enough with the generalities, let’s talk specifics:
This article does have potential, but I think it will take a bit of work to make it good enough to remove the tag, but the tag can be removed by any other editor who feels it has met the standards so that it is not viewed as an advertisement. (Note a corollary, one editor might come along and decide it is fine, and then another editor might decide to re-tag it. That’s the way things work here.)-- SPhilbrick T 11:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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I have just read about minor editing. Soon after I started editing in late May 2010, I have been incorrectly marking my edits as minor. From this point on, I will be marking edits as minor or major more appropriately. Sorry if this error has caused more work for others. -- Senra ( talk) 23:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to (sort of) out you at FAC. If you upload images under your wiki tag, both the copyright and RL issues are avoided. In fact, the presence of metadata on the image page makes it clear that the photographer and uploader are one and the same; also at littlethetford.org you state explicitly that you (JM) edit as Senra, so no great harm done I think. Good luck with the tornado. Incidentally, I hope you don't think I'm giving you too hard a time at FAC — it's much tougher than GAN. Just hope the professional copyeditors don't show an interest! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Someone will get around to the peer review on Christchurch, Dorset but these things always take a while.— Rod talk 19:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra,
Just to say, I saw your comments on peer review/Christchurch. Thanks for your support. :)--
Ykraps (
talk)
06:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
I cannot help ponder at the thought that upwards of 3k collaborative words in 24 hours is much better than I can achieve— 337 words in five days.
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One challenge we have at Wikipedia is that it is considered acceptable to add a template to an article noting a requirement for an improvement, and to never check back. While some editors do this, many do not (and I'm probably guilty of this at times). Many new editors assume that is a template is added, and they address the problems, the template will go away. A very reasonable assumption. Unfortunately, false.
In some specific cases, such as a request for a specific citation, this doe occur, but if the request is general cleanup, another editor looking at it may not know what the first editor had in mind.
In my early days at Wikipedia, I saw an article with a note that it needed more references. So I added a few. No change in message. I added a few more. Still no change. I added seventeen references, and when the message didn't change, i asked someone, and found out I had the right to remove it when I thought there were enough.
Frankly, I'd like to see a better system, but I haven't come up with a good alternative.
I think Little Thetford looks quite nice, so I removed the template. No article is ever perfect, so don't hesitate to continue editing if you can improve it, but my apologies for the frustration you felt—I've been there.-- SPhilbrick T 00:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The above is most welcome to me. Thank you for clearing that up. You are now monitoring a very relieved editor! -- Senra ( talk) 12:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}} Using the automated external links checker on Little Thetford gives three errors
I have read through the help file and searched wikipedia for help on this issue without success. I am obviously looking in the wrong place. My suspicion is that errors (1) and (2) are due to the BBC showing a different URL to the internet outside the UK meaning that those outside the UK may see only a 404 error. I suspect that the particular subset of data that the Vision of Britain link is accessing requires access from UK only too. I may be wrong in my analysis. In any case, right or wrong, I do not know how to fix the errors.
-- Senra ( talk) 00:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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Little Thetford is a parish in the ward of Stretham. That being said, I suspect that the parameter infobox-->civil_parish should not be present for this village. Could that be confirmed please?-- Senra ( talk) 18:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Little Thetford I've struck some of the comments which have been dealt with & added some further comments/explanations. Nothing came across as defensive & you are welcome to reject/ignore anything I suggest - often there is no right & wrong & we develop these things by working towards consensus. Let mke know if you'd like further help (particularly with notes & references) but I don't want to interfere too much.— Rod talk 08:22, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Acknowledged Any help is really appreciated as this is my first article. I am just feeling my way around. -- Senra ( talk) 12:46, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
In response to your request, I have restored the version of this page as you left it at 20:19 last night. I'll tell you how later - no time at the moment! Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 12:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra, Just dropping in to say that just because you are new to Wikipedia, it doesn't mean that you can't feedback on other peoples' articles. The feedback you left for Frangipani (file system) was really good and I am sure the author will find it helpful. BTW, are you the author of 'Little Thetford'? I think I may have reviewed it. I thought it was really interesting. -- Ykraps ( talk) 17:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Just in case you don't see the reply on my talk page, I think this is a nice article that could easily be worked up to become a GA during the review period, so don't withdraw its nomination. I sense how how keen you are to improve this article, so let me know if it's not picked up for review within a couple of days, and I'll do it myself. Good luck. Malleus Fatuorum 20:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
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Was taking a look at John W. R. Taylor. I think it is WP:COPYVIO. Would someone 2nd opinion for me please. Compare article with Jane's editors. -- Senra ( talk) 21:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I like to keep conversations together, but wasn't sure whether you had watchlisted my page.-- SPhilbrick T 16:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}} I need help to propose a merge of two articles. Suggestbot recently visited my page and left me a (far too long!) list of articles that it thought I might be interested in. I worked on a few articles including Swaffham Prior Chalk escarpment. After some reflection, I feel that the article should be merged with Swaffham Prior. My rationale for the merge would be Swaffham Prior Chalk escarpment should be merged into Swaffham Prior as part of the [new] geography section or geology subsection of geography. I have had a look in Help:Merging. I do not feel confident I can carry out the procedure correctly.
Merging is not a trivial exercise - don't feel bad if you aren't ready to do it yourself.-- SPhilbrick T 21:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
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Your feedback is more welcome that you may realize. I spend a fair amount of time at Requests for feedback (although I've been a bit deficient lately.) It can sometimes be discouraging to spend time reviewing a draft, making suggestions, then never hearing again. Your decision to reach out and thank me helps make up for a least a dozen who don't remember.
I also see an inconsistent treatment of new editors. Some regulars are very helpful, but this is a Byzantine place to newcomers, and we need to do more. I think we need to work harder with new editors—you may be the perfect example of an editors who is turning into a treasure, but might easily have been turned off.
Finally, a tad of jealously - I've been here for some time now and don't yet have a GA. To be fair, I haven't tried, and it is on my list of things to do, but I view a GA as a significant accomplishment, so major kudos to you. (I just checked, and it is quite a nice article). I seriously am interested in helping people, especially someone as promising as you, so don't hesitate to ask if you find policies frustrating. I may not have the immediate answer, but I've seen enough to know where to look.
(I normally like to keep conversation together, so I started to post on my page and link to you, but I want the kudos on your page.)-- SPhilbrick T 17:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Wow, you really have been busy and you deserve the GA status. May be you could drop in on Christchurch, Dorset and give me some feedback! It is a project I've been working on for a while now and would eventually like to see it go GA. Congratulations once again.-- Ykraps ( talk) 18:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Did an editor ask for a review of Christchurch, Dorset? if so where? I would agree with all your comments but would have more to make (about unsourced paragraphs etc). If they hadn't asked for a review & I was just looking at the page I would probably just go & do some of the edits (eg the broken link found by wildbot). You could up the start to a C to reward the development they have put in.— Rod talk 20:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra, thanks for the feedback and as I said before, just because you are new it doesn't mean you don't have anything valuable to say.
I have only been editing for 3 months so I think I am new too.
I started because there was a dispute on the
Nelson talk page and so I created the article
'The Nelson Touch'. It is this area of history that really interests me but when I saw the article on Christchurch I was disappointed. The town has a rich history and deserved more than the few lines given it.
I have not long finished (not really, I could add more) the history section and have just started to look at other areas so it is very much a work in progress. I didn't mean to give the impression that it was finished.
Anyway with regards to your feedback:
Thanks again for the feedback.-- Ykraps ( talk) 10:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra,
Thanks for doing the info box and lead. I like the picture you chose. Out of the ones there it would have been my choice. I'll probably play around with the lead a bit but it's a very good start. I didn't get your other messages for some reason, they didn't appear as 'new message' on my user page. Thanks again for your input.--
Ykraps (
talk)
07:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
{{
helpme}}
I am interested in obtaining the image
flesh-hook] to go along with the new page, currently in my user space at
Little Thetford flesh hook. Does anyone know if wikipedia qualifies for the free non-commercial use of
British Museum images? --
Senra (
talk)
18:49, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've moved your request ( diff) to the more appropriate project page WP:GLAM/BM/Photos requested. Fæ ( talk) 09:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}} I made a mistake. I am not certain how to fix it correctly.
I started a new article, which is currently in draft form at Little Thetford flesh-hook. The article, after review, is intended to be put into wikipedia (main-space?) at Little Thetford flesh-hook as a similar article to Dunaverney flesh-hook. I do not want to put the draft article into main-space (is that the right term?) yet, until it is ready. For example, I am waiting for clearance for an image amongst other things. However, when I do, I want to preserve links and edit history etc.
Now, I have just realised today that I have created the draft in talk-space (is that the right term?) instead of user-space (again, is this correct?). There is a complication (there always is). I have referenced [[User_talk:Senra/Flesh-hook]] in a few places, whilst constructing the article; not only within the [[en.wikipedia.org/]] universe (erm, just talk pages though), but also outside it—such as in emails to the British Museum.
Therefore, how do I move the draft article to user-space, preserving links and edit history, and then eventually (though not yet), move it to main-space, again, preserving links and edit history? As an aside, am I correct in thinking in future, I should produce draft articles within user-space not talk-space? Is space the final frontier? -- Senra ( talk) 16:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
The 'prefix' part, "User:Serna/..." or "User talk:Serna..." means it's in your userspace, whereas live articles have no such prefix.
To avoid exploding heads, I've done it for you; I moved it to Little Thetford flesh-hook. It's live. I'll make a 'disambiguation page' called Flesh-hook in a sec too, and fix redirects and things.
For more help, you can either;
OR
OR
The last of those is particularly useful - please try it; pop in now and say hello. Chzz ► 18:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}} Not wishing to be ungrateful but erm Little Thetford flesh-hook is live? Not what I really wanted. The issue is I was trying to create an article suitable for DYK and they have limtis for new articles of 5 days and I do not yet have an inage for the article but am working on getting an image via the british museum and it is dinner time now and I have to go but I am really grateful and all but can it be moved back its talk page or more acurately moved to my user space instead of my talk page and thanks but got ot go -- Senra ( talk) 18:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
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Really sorry about another helpme. As usual, I am trying to do things correctly without messing up wikipedia. Respondents please note. I am willing, and (once I read the relevant help pages) able, to carry out the below myself. I am simply asking for advice on names and redirects.
I am about to move User:Little Thetford flesh-hook to Little Thetford flesh-hook. However I thought I had better explore the names and redirects that might be associated with this page once it gets to main-space. Note the following:
I am thus inclined to
Does the above sound reasonable? Have I missed anything? -- Senra ( talk) 12:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of
Little Thetford flesh-hook at the
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Looks like someone changed a spelling,creating an inconsistency. I'm agnostic regarding which spelling is used, but I think you'll agree that the spelling in the article should match the spelling in the DYK hook. If you are fine with the editor's change, either edit the nomination, or tell me and I will.If you disagree with the author's chge please resolve it with the editor so it doesn't create a mismatch while the hook is on the front page. -- SPhilbrick T 16:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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something bad has happend here above me from DYK downwards
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Ælfwaru at the
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Bencherlite
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19:06, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
As an aside, I saw something you wrote that used the word "berewick". I grew up in a town called Berwick, which I assume is named after the English town Berwick, which itself was named after somebody. But I hadn't thought through where it originally came form. I see here that berewick is related to barley farm, I wonder if that is the source of Berwick. Seems likely.-- SPhilbrick T 00:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Little Thetford was described in the Domesday Book as a berewick of Ely, Cambridgeshire.
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— Rlevse • Talk • 06:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
{{ helpme}} At Template_talk:Did_you_know#.C3.86lfwaru I am struggling to discover the etymology of Ælfwaru. Where is the most appropriate place to find a reasonably rapid response to such a query? -- Senra ( talk) 10:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I wasn't aware of the "FA Team" & looking at it I doubt if it is still active. I would suggest going back to Peer Review & make it clear that this time you are aiming towards FAC. Eventually you get to a point where you just have to nominate it & take the flak that comes from the reviewers.— Rod talk 17:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Honest! -- Senra ( talk) 22:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
First off, please understand that I know almost nothing about European archaeology; what little I know of archaeology is almost all eastern North America.
The reason that I added it to the Britain category is that obviously an artefact found in the UK is British archaeology. Removing the European category and removing the overall Archaeology category were both for the same reason — an article should almost never be in both Category A and Category B if one of the two is a subcategory of the other; Bronze Age Britain is obviously in Bronze Age Europe, and Archaeological artefacts is likewise in Archaeology. Since categories are meant to help readers find related pages, we split categories such as Bronze Age Europe into Greece, Britain, and Scotland for multiple reasons: among other things, we thereby help readers interested specifically in Scotland to find Scottish sites and we help readers not at all interested in Greece to find the non-Greek sites that they want. If we put all the British sites in the European category as well, it wouldn't really help to have the British category, because all of them are also in the European category. That all being said, there might be a good reason for putting it in both that I'm not understanding. You might want to try to ask for advice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Archaeology, but be aware that I left a note there in late April that never got a response. Another way you could get advice is to ask professional archaeologist Dr. William Whittaker; while he's an American archaeologist, he might be able to point you to users who are more familiar with European archaeology.
Finally, let me say thanks for a great article! I often write about American archaeology, but my topics are archaeological sites such as the Moar Mound and Village Site; I'm amazed that you were able to find enough information to write an article about a single artefact. Nyttend ( talk) 14:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
... In Grunty Fen, near Ely, a gold torque, weighing 4 oz. and 3 grains, and 42 inches long exclusive of the solid ends, was found in 1845, ...
I've now taken a look at the article and have searched around for other sources, but I can't find anything more, and your work on it looks great. Warofdreams talk 20:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. (regarding Hosa Technology)
The notice was placed by another edit. I’m going to write some comment, and place a copy with you, and with the editor who placed the notice. In many cases, an editor who places a notice doesn’t take care to monitor to see if the improvements occur; I have reason to believe this particular editor cares enough to follow up.
I’m concerned I may have left a false impression. First, Wikipedia is an odd place – it is ”staffed” by volunteers, each of whom has some freedom to made their own judgments. While there are policies and guidelines, seemingly to cover anything, there’s still a fair bit of leeway for individual judgment.
The creation of the article Wizard to help new editors start an article is new. It automatically places a draft article in user space, and in some circumstances, such as your case, someone else has to make the judgment on whether it is ready for main space. No one, to the best of my knowledge, has articulated rules on what requirements should be met to move such an article, so I have my own, which I think are reasonable. In short, I apply a very low threshold, which means I am often willing to move an article that I personally think has some problems. I don’t move an article if I think it is in such bad shape that it is likely to get a speedy deletion, which might happen if, for example, it were a biography with no references. However, I would be willing to move it if I think the number of references is marginal, on the chance that the community might decide it is fine.
I’m taking a long time to explain that my decision to move is not my considered opinion that the article is fine, just that it is good enough to meet minimum requirements, and good enough that editors will respond to it with either suggestions for improvements, or, even better, actual improvements, instead of proposing that it simply be deleted.
Enough with the generalities, let’s talk specifics:
This article does have potential, but I think it will take a bit of work to make it good enough to remove the tag, but the tag can be removed by any other editor who feels it has met the standards so that it is not viewed as an advertisement. (Note a corollary, one editor might come along and decide it is fine, and then another editor might decide to re-tag it. That’s the way things work here.)-- SPhilbrick T 11:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
I have just read about minor editing. Soon after I started editing in late May 2010, I have been incorrectly marking my edits as minor. From this point on, I will be marking edits as minor or major more appropriately. Sorry if this error has caused more work for others. -- Senra ( talk) 23:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to (sort of) out you at FAC. If you upload images under your wiki tag, both the copyright and RL issues are avoided. In fact, the presence of metadata on the image page makes it clear that the photographer and uploader are one and the same; also at littlethetford.org you state explicitly that you (JM) edit as Senra, so no great harm done I think. Good luck with the tornado. Incidentally, I hope you don't think I'm giving you too hard a time at FAC — it's much tougher than GAN. Just hope the professional copyeditors don't show an interest! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Someone will get around to the peer review on Christchurch, Dorset but these things always take a while.— Rod talk 19:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra,
Just to say, I saw your comments on peer review/Christchurch. Thanks for your support. :)--
Ykraps (
talk)
06:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
I cannot help ponder at the thought that upwards of 3k collaborative words in 24 hours is much better than I can achieve— 337 words in five days.
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