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This is a courtesy notice to inform you that the amendment request you filed has been closed and archived. The Committee decided to remove the logged entry from the case page, but felt that there was no further action needed. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 08:38, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
You are aware that the votes were being votestacked by SPA's? Your closure was premature I rescind this as I only object to you
vote tallying all the votes.
Avono (
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22:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Sandstein,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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In an AE case regarding WeijiBaikeBianji, you wrote that "they assert without attribution that a living person has "devoted his writings to promoting white-supremacist beliefs", in violation of WP:BLP, and they misleadingly do so in an edit labeled as "minor" and with the deceptive edit summary "fix unmatched parenthesis error". This amounts to sanctionable misconduct". It appears to me that claim of a misleading minor edit is based on a misunderstanding; the edit summary WBB added when he reinserted the white supremacy label was "Let's discuss on the article talk page. Some people do that kind of thing, and sources identify that". Only after that did he do the minor edit. Regards, Iselilja ( talk) 14:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I've attempted to re-work my references as you suggested here and I'm wondering if you might take another glance to see what you think. Does the article still need work of any kind or do you feel it's now viable? Thank you for your time. I can't tell you how much your help means to me. -- edi (talk) 06:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
You deleted Representative of Saint Helena, London. I was working on seeing how many valid references I could find, and add, when the article ran out of time. I saved my draft at User:Geo Swan/Representative of Saint Helena, London. Could you graft the revision history and talk page of the article to User:Geo Swan/Representative of Saint Helena, London?
Can a draft be brought up to meet GNG? I haven't made up my mind. If I decide it can't, I'll place a {{ db-u1}} on it. But first I would port the draft to a non-WMF wiki with less stringent inclusion criteria. In order to do that, in a way that honors the original contributors' remaining IP rights I need access to the original contribution history -- hence my request for the history graft.
Thanks Geo Swan ( talk) 02:35, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
As someone I know to be an admin experienced in dealing with arbitration enforcement requests, I would be interested to hear your views on whether you think that the dispute in the Acupuncture topic area that is currently subject to an arbitration case request could be successfully dealt with by enforcement of the pseudo-science discretionary sanctions. Please comment at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Acupuncture (input there from other AE admins stalking this talk page is also welcome!). Thanks. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammad Ali Hussein Khenaina. He is in the news again because he was recently released, to Kazakhstan. I request userification of the article's revision history and talk page please, so I can review the previous material, and make a decision how best to cover the new information.
Thanks Geo Swan ( talk) 17:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia says the "Christian Fuchs (sociologist)" page was deleted. Can you tell me why this page was deleted? Thank you. Shudipta Sharma ( talk) 20:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
While I've heard about people like this, I've never had to deal with anyone who just sashays in and demands everyone accept their view of all things, or otherwise they'll start an edit war, and who just routinely changes their demands and misrepresents the article and sources like this. I've heard this is a recurring problem on some articles but I've never had to deal with it myself and it's driving me a little crazy. I'm used to that in politics, sure, but... yeah. Anyway, sorry if I'm getting too snippy. I really do try to work with people but this person is just... their way or the highway. Apparently. Solarbird ( talk) 05:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
I feel that the discussion was closed incorrectly. The !vote total was 3–3, with one of the keeps being a "me too" !vote. I'm not heavily invested in the discussion or the fate of the article, but I feel like it should have been at least closed as no consensus if not relisted.
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The Arbitration Committee has closed a case request by motion with the following remedy being enacted:
In lieu of a full case, the Arbitration Committee authorises standard discretionary sanctions for any edit about, and for all pages relating to Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Any sanctions that may be imposed should be logged at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Acupuncture. The Committee urges interested editors to pursue alternative means of dispute resolution such as RFC's or requests for mediation on the underlying issues. If necessary, further requests concerning this matter should be filed at the requests for clarification and amendment page.
For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 11:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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Good move on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2015_January_7#Je_suis_Charlie Bearian ( talk) 20:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC) |
Hi, the edit you reverted here was by me - forgot to log in. Just wanted to note that the link being dead was not my main reason for deleting that bit of the article. The statistics cited really say nothing important and are even potentially misleading. The total amount of money earned by one class of films versus the total amount of money earned by another class of films says nothing about the relative money-making potential of the two types of films. Rather, it mainly speaks about the size of the two classes. It would be much like saying that because more of the money in your city exists outside of your neighborhood than inside it, your neighborhood must be poorer than other neighborhoods. But this is true of any neighborhood, because no neighborhood contains more than half the money in the entire city. (At least, in sensible cities!)
So I feel like this statistic is really not useful. Thoughts? Should I have written about this on the talk page before deleting the statistic? — flamingspinach | (talk) 03:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
You closed an Afd of the article-in-question, as no consensus. However, an editor went & changed that article to a redirect, today. I don't want to get any deeper into that dispute, but I'm concerned about that editor's action. Not sure what to do about it. GoodDay ( talk) 18:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of unconfirmed exoplanets. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle ( talk) 09:40, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello Sandstein, I would like to know what is the right channel to raise the problem where articles about different settlements became a horror description of the neighboring Palestinians. While I don't try to discount the importance of that issue, it has very little to do with the info people will be looking for when they look at a settlement page. If the community decides it should stay in, I will accept it but right now it looks like people with bias just fill them with pro-Palestinian propaganda. How does a discussion like that being started? Thanks, Ashtul ( talk) 23:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
A user keeps adding original research to the article of Ragnar Lodbrok, trying to tie the Viking to the Merovingian Ragnachar and even the Arthurian legend... Not a single proper source is ever given. I'm afraid this might get out of hand. I tried to put my reasons on the article's talkpage, but he just launches in a diatribe and keeps adding the contented subsection. As you reverted some of the edits as well, you might want to join the discussion. -- fdewaele, 27 November 2014, 18:31 CET
Gaijin42 ( talk) 16:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
hi there,
I am a producer on WingMen. I do not have much time to deal with this as we're currently in edits of the show, post production, in talks with lawyers and the network to possibly premiere the show this weekend or the next.
Everything on our page is fact. We hired a young lady to create this for us and was told not to use our Facebook page as reference as we have an official site and articles written. I will endeavour to correct all these but need some help.
Is there any way you can remove the request for deletion? I have no idea how to resurrect the page.
Stevepassionplaymedia ( talk) 19:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Sandstein, I've copied Ashtul's unblock request to WP:AE. PhilKnight ( talk) 21:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
A user was indefinitely topic banned from the military subjects of India and Pakistan. Question is that if he voted on the AfD of Indian Century, a small stub that mentions about "military" twice, it would be considered as a violation of topic ban? I am quite skeptical about the 4th line of WP:TBAN here. Thanks OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
OccultZone and TheSawTooth, please do not continue to discuss this here. The topic ban at issue is a community sanction, and any enforcement request should therefore be made in a community forum or to the administrator who found consensus to impose the ban. Sandstein 16:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
My name is William Forester. I am the foremost expert in the world of the Forester surname. I assure you - RICHARD THE FORESTER existed (Richarcio Forestarius), thrived and died. b. 2/13/1049 - d. 6/12/1078. He was knighted after Hastings. I own his battle shield and wristguards, verified by the largest auction house in Europe. His sword is buried with him. Your deletion of his page from Wiki is a travesty and embarrassing. Please, show me your master-level genealogical credentials and I will show you the exhumed details of DNA showing Richard's match to Baldwin. Good grief. (Bill the Conq. called him Deus sauciavit "God's Dagger") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.199.189.225 ( talk) 05:07, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Friendly note for you, Sandstein. The book actually mentions 7 and I confirmed and cited all inline. However, Boston Society of Film Critics did not award Sarandon in 1988, it awarded Melanie Griffith instead. [4] Minor note - White Palace was not a co-win according to Hollywood Reporter. [5] However, the numerous errors and frankly improper Razzies directed at Cage are more concerning. I have not gone through and weeded out all the errors yet. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 17:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
FYI, about Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Cwobeel, the IMDb section about the awards is NOT user-generated (nor user-updateable, or user-fixable). It is directly managed by the IMDb staff. Just for record. -- Cavarrone 12:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have indicated that the evidence of the stalking I spoke of is in the page to which I first linked. I regret that you did not review the entirety of the page, which I would have thought would have been expected under the circumstances. Also note how your rush to judgment regarding who a comment was "clearly" directed at is itself very likely wrong, or at least a rush to judgment regarding my motivations which is of course completely different from what I was thinking at the time. Perhaps you might take the time to review the entirety of pages linked to before casting rather poorly founded judgments. John Carter ( talk) 18:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have a question related to three sources Cwobeel had added to an article. The first in this edit and two more Edit one and Edit two. The trivial one-sentence or less mentions, without supporting evidence or analysis was used as evidence of Islamophobia now "fomenting Islamophobia" which does not match either. The claim is defamatory and it is being discussed, but Cwobeel and Coffeepusher asserted that because the source exists - it can be used in the lead and on the biography. Most interesting is the first source, which is essentially "Islamophobes Steven Emerson" and immediately states (the discredited "terrorism expert" who falsely identified Muslims as being behind the Oklahoma City bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh). The problem with the latter (sourced to Think Progress by the book) is that it is irrelvant, not in context or accurate. Though that's all the entire book states - never returning to Emerson at all. This was the source used to confirm and accuse Emerson of being a bigot.
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Atsme: has taken a bit of too far of stance on legitimate criticism, but made the first push to remove it. I consider it a BLP issue and a clear problem to call anyone or state they have been labeled a bigot in such a fashion. I dislike subjective conjecture or attacks about a person's beliefs as a "matter of fact", especially contentious ones. Pundits and political commentary or labels are the bane of BLPs and Wikipedia for this reason. Two POV pushers might balance an article to more or less neutral, but it will be a wall of "crap people said". Though the article has others which exist like : In response to these comments, British Prime Minister David Cameron said that he "choked on his porridge" when he heard them and observed that Emerson was "clearly a complete idiot".[68][69]
Is the sort of reactionary comments that are not appropriate for a biography, is not the same as accusing of being a bigot. I do not know how best to respond to these sourced, but improper usage of sources for controversy and reception surrounding a person. That being said, the "praise" is equally problematic and I rather be done with the "reception" section as a whole.
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my repply
was erased.
Hi Sandstein,
I am not going to discuss why, but I'd ask you to add the
corresponding discussion's link to Nishidani's reference: "User:Igorp lj protested its lack of NPOV from the start".
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Hi--just realized that I should have told you about this AN/I report, given that the editor's grudge is against you, and it's easy enough to miss the notification that comes with wikilinking a username. Origamite ⓣ ⓒ 02:05, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I am out of town with no pc access until monday. Which is why this group chose this time to ambush me. I will respond then. But will say this. I never compared any editor to a child rapist. The accusers took that among other things i said out of context and misreported them. Same with the shovel comment its a figure of speech from the military, another reason for their enmity. The discussion was about source material. As in published authors on the subject and the subject was the technical aspect of firearms. Read that entire conversation before passing judgement as well as the other diffs they cherry picked. Sorry to put you folks through this, glad they didnt bring up the time i broke that lamp in 1973, respectfully -- mike searson (no tildes on my phone)
I was a bit curious and didn't quite have time to address this issue, but what was the reason behind Involuntary celibacy's DRV closure as disallow recreation? Upon reviewing the debate, the outcome was 6 - 8 in favor of disallow, however, I can't find a policy based rational for disallowing recreation. I was wondering if you could take a look at this article and let me know if you see any reason why this does not pass WP:N. If not I was hoping for permission to recreate with immediate nomination for AfD I feel it will pass. Valoem talk contrib 21:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at
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[6] I agree with your rationale. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 18:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that arbitration enforcement is not mandatory and the arbcom never meant for us to not be able to consider each situation individually. You action in regards to the complaint against Eric goes directly against the consensus that was forming there. You took it upon yourself to ignore the opinions of others, cast a supervote and act unilaterally and then close the discussion. I think you know how Eric will react to this and I think this action was not in the best interest of the encyclopedia. I am not going to fight this action however I felt like voicing my opinion. Chillum 22:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Noted. Please continue any discussions among people who are not me elsewhere. Sandstein 15:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC) |
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You are a disgrace to Wikipedia. If there was a way to desysop you, I would wholeheartedly pursue it. A proverbial admin on a power trip that cannot see further from the nose. Not that its founder is much better. No such user ( talk) 22:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm not "accepting" any awards, but I can't prevent editors leaving them on my talk page, much like I can't prevent you from offering your opinion. I have not examined the conduct of Lightbreather because my activity here is limited to arbitration enforcement, and no claim of misconduct by Lightbreather that falls under any arbitration remedies or discretionary sanctions has been made, and so I have no opinion as to whether her conduct might have been objectionable. If you think that there is such misconduct, you or anybody else can make an enforcement request at WP:AE. If not, Cassianto and Knowledgekid87, I ask that you please conduct any further discussion between you two elsewhere. Thanks, Sandstein 14:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@Cassianto. Lightbreather's behaviour, and who is now behaving like a fucking victim; let's not forget, it was her who waived the bait under Eric's nose LB is a woman. To suggest that she is behaving ( Personal attack removed) is a grotesque PA. You are the one who is baiting. yes men who don't know their arse from their elbow This is grossly uncivil, and, I believe, the number of admins at AE is small enough for this to be considered a PA. Behave yourself. OrangesRyellow ( talk) 15:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks. I appreciate that. Sandstein 22:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC) |
Disregarding it and warning Lightbreather aside, I disagree with such a use of barnstars. Blocks are not to be celebrated. They may be solemnly endorsed, but to celebrate them is to forget their true nature: they are like the scar left behind when cutting a disruptive branch off a tree, and no one would argue that such scars are anything but ugly and that the tree would not scream if it had a voice. ekips 39 17:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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Sandstein, the link you supplied on Cwobeel's webpage to the AE discussion doesn't work. The link you provided ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=WP:AE&oldid=643973454#Cwobeel) ) just gives a bad gateway error. I believe the link you're looking for is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Result_concerning_Cwobeel. KoshVorlon Je Suis Charlie 18:46, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Interactions at GGTF/Proposed decision#Eric Corbett prohibited: "Eric Corbett agrees to a restriction prohibiting him from shouting at, swearing at, insulting and/or belittling other editors. The restriction comes into immediate effect on the passing of this motion." Yesterday, he made these comments that I think constitute "insulting and/or belittling other editors": "Lightbreather isn't what she appears to be, and no doubt she'll be exposed in time. As for Sandstein, he's a one-off hopefully" and " Do you really believe that editor retention is a priority for the likes of Sandstein?" Today, he has called an editor "filth". Rationalobserver ( talk) 19:01, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Please do not use this talk page to settle disagreements among other editors. Sandstein 22:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Sandstein: one regrettable result of your block of Eric Corbett was that OrangesRyellow made a personal attack on Cassianto here on your user talk page. Since the former has not edited since and the best time for them to strike it out as based on a misunderstanding has thus passed, could I ask you to please do the decent thing and revdelete it? I don't believe it would be proper for me or another admin to do so, and hatting is insufficient for something so hurtful. I pinged you at AN/I suggesting this as a step towards reducing the current ill feeling, but being me, I messed up the ping template. Yngvadottir ( talk) 00:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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HJ Mitchell had left this message on my talk page. Is that the way it is enforced? Am I topic banned now? I want to clarify, AE was not a retaliation and I would have used it before if I knew it existed. At most, it was a mistake by a newbie. I am looking forward to your advice. Ashtul ( talk) 05:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
An editor is attempting a block review at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Review of Block on Cwobeel. I do not know if AN is the proper place, but I posted the evidence and corrected a false claim made by the OP. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 02:40, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Cla68 appeared to lay low in the last week of GamerGate to avoid the same fate as TDA. As of today, though, he came back and started in with MONGO again. You were the last person to warn him and was wondering if this appears to be an extension of what you warned against or a completely new issue. Thanks. -- DHeyward ( talk) 01:51, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
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This is a courtesy notice to inform you that the amendment request you filed has been closed and archived. The Committee decided to remove the logged entry from the case page, but felt that there was no further action needed. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 08:38, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
You are aware that the votes were being votestacked by SPA's? Your closure was premature I rescind this as I only object to you
vote tallying all the votes.
Avono (
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22:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Sandstein,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
NorthAmerica
1000
10:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
In an AE case regarding WeijiBaikeBianji, you wrote that "they assert without attribution that a living person has "devoted his writings to promoting white-supremacist beliefs", in violation of WP:BLP, and they misleadingly do so in an edit labeled as "minor" and with the deceptive edit summary "fix unmatched parenthesis error". This amounts to sanctionable misconduct". It appears to me that claim of a misleading minor edit is based on a misunderstanding; the edit summary WBB added when he reinserted the white supremacy label was "Let's discuss on the article talk page. Some people do that kind of thing, and sources identify that". Only after that did he do the minor edit. Regards, Iselilja ( talk) 14:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I've attempted to re-work my references as you suggested here and I'm wondering if you might take another glance to see what you think. Does the article still need work of any kind or do you feel it's now viable? Thank you for your time. I can't tell you how much your help means to me. -- edi (talk) 06:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
You deleted Representative of Saint Helena, London. I was working on seeing how many valid references I could find, and add, when the article ran out of time. I saved my draft at User:Geo Swan/Representative of Saint Helena, London. Could you graft the revision history and talk page of the article to User:Geo Swan/Representative of Saint Helena, London?
Can a draft be brought up to meet GNG? I haven't made up my mind. If I decide it can't, I'll place a {{ db-u1}} on it. But first I would port the draft to a non-WMF wiki with less stringent inclusion criteria. In order to do that, in a way that honors the original contributors' remaining IP rights I need access to the original contribution history -- hence my request for the history graft.
Thanks Geo Swan ( talk) 02:35, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
As someone I know to be an admin experienced in dealing with arbitration enforcement requests, I would be interested to hear your views on whether you think that the dispute in the Acupuncture topic area that is currently subject to an arbitration case request could be successfully dealt with by enforcement of the pseudo-science discretionary sanctions. Please comment at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Acupuncture (input there from other AE admins stalking this talk page is also welcome!). Thanks. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammad Ali Hussein Khenaina. He is in the news again because he was recently released, to Kazakhstan. I request userification of the article's revision history and talk page please, so I can review the previous material, and make a decision how best to cover the new information.
Thanks Geo Swan ( talk) 17:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia says the "Christian Fuchs (sociologist)" page was deleted. Can you tell me why this page was deleted? Thank you. Shudipta Sharma ( talk) 20:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
While I've heard about people like this, I've never had to deal with anyone who just sashays in and demands everyone accept their view of all things, or otherwise they'll start an edit war, and who just routinely changes their demands and misrepresents the article and sources like this. I've heard this is a recurring problem on some articles but I've never had to deal with it myself and it's driving me a little crazy. I'm used to that in politics, sure, but... yeah. Anyway, sorry if I'm getting too snippy. I really do try to work with people but this person is just... their way or the highway. Apparently. Solarbird ( talk) 05:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
I feel that the discussion was closed incorrectly. The !vote total was 3–3, with one of the keeps being a "me too" !vote. I'm not heavily invested in the discussion or the fate of the article, but I feel like it should have been at least closed as no consensus if not relisted.
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The Arbitration Committee has closed a case request by motion with the following remedy being enacted:
In lieu of a full case, the Arbitration Committee authorises standard discretionary sanctions for any edit about, and for all pages relating to Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Any sanctions that may be imposed should be logged at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Acupuncture. The Committee urges interested editors to pursue alternative means of dispute resolution such as RFC's or requests for mediation on the underlying issues. If necessary, further requests concerning this matter should be filed at the requests for clarification and amendment page.
For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 11:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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Good move on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2015_January_7#Je_suis_Charlie Bearian ( talk) 20:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC) |
Hi, the edit you reverted here was by me - forgot to log in. Just wanted to note that the link being dead was not my main reason for deleting that bit of the article. The statistics cited really say nothing important and are even potentially misleading. The total amount of money earned by one class of films versus the total amount of money earned by another class of films says nothing about the relative money-making potential of the two types of films. Rather, it mainly speaks about the size of the two classes. It would be much like saying that because more of the money in your city exists outside of your neighborhood than inside it, your neighborhood must be poorer than other neighborhoods. But this is true of any neighborhood, because no neighborhood contains more than half the money in the entire city. (At least, in sensible cities!)
So I feel like this statistic is really not useful. Thoughts? Should I have written about this on the talk page before deleting the statistic? — flamingspinach | (talk) 03:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
You closed an Afd of the article-in-question, as no consensus. However, an editor went & changed that article to a redirect, today. I don't want to get any deeper into that dispute, but I'm concerned about that editor's action. Not sure what to do about it. GoodDay ( talk) 18:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of unconfirmed exoplanets. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle ( talk) 09:40, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello Sandstein, I would like to know what is the right channel to raise the problem where articles about different settlements became a horror description of the neighboring Palestinians. While I don't try to discount the importance of that issue, it has very little to do with the info people will be looking for when they look at a settlement page. If the community decides it should stay in, I will accept it but right now it looks like people with bias just fill them with pro-Palestinian propaganda. How does a discussion like that being started? Thanks, Ashtul ( talk) 23:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
A user keeps adding original research to the article of Ragnar Lodbrok, trying to tie the Viking to the Merovingian Ragnachar and even the Arthurian legend... Not a single proper source is ever given. I'm afraid this might get out of hand. I tried to put my reasons on the article's talkpage, but he just launches in a diatribe and keeps adding the contented subsection. As you reverted some of the edits as well, you might want to join the discussion. -- fdewaele, 27 November 2014, 18:31 CET
Gaijin42 ( talk) 16:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
hi there,
I am a producer on WingMen. I do not have much time to deal with this as we're currently in edits of the show, post production, in talks with lawyers and the network to possibly premiere the show this weekend or the next.
Everything on our page is fact. We hired a young lady to create this for us and was told not to use our Facebook page as reference as we have an official site and articles written. I will endeavour to correct all these but need some help.
Is there any way you can remove the request for deletion? I have no idea how to resurrect the page.
Stevepassionplaymedia ( talk) 19:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Sandstein, I've copied Ashtul's unblock request to WP:AE. PhilKnight ( talk) 21:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
A user was indefinitely topic banned from the military subjects of India and Pakistan. Question is that if he voted on the AfD of Indian Century, a small stub that mentions about "military" twice, it would be considered as a violation of topic ban? I am quite skeptical about the 4th line of WP:TBAN here. Thanks OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
OccultZone and TheSawTooth, please do not continue to discuss this here. The topic ban at issue is a community sanction, and any enforcement request should therefore be made in a community forum or to the administrator who found consensus to impose the ban. Sandstein 16:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
My name is William Forester. I am the foremost expert in the world of the Forester surname. I assure you - RICHARD THE FORESTER existed (Richarcio Forestarius), thrived and died. b. 2/13/1049 - d. 6/12/1078. He was knighted after Hastings. I own his battle shield and wristguards, verified by the largest auction house in Europe. His sword is buried with him. Your deletion of his page from Wiki is a travesty and embarrassing. Please, show me your master-level genealogical credentials and I will show you the exhumed details of DNA showing Richard's match to Baldwin. Good grief. (Bill the Conq. called him Deus sauciavit "God's Dagger") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.199.189.225 ( talk) 05:07, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Friendly note for you, Sandstein. The book actually mentions 7 and I confirmed and cited all inline. However, Boston Society of Film Critics did not award Sarandon in 1988, it awarded Melanie Griffith instead. [4] Minor note - White Palace was not a co-win according to Hollywood Reporter. [5] However, the numerous errors and frankly improper Razzies directed at Cage are more concerning. I have not gone through and weeded out all the errors yet. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 17:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
FYI, about Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Cwobeel, the IMDb section about the awards is NOT user-generated (nor user-updateable, or user-fixable). It is directly managed by the IMDb staff. Just for record. -- Cavarrone 12:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have indicated that the evidence of the stalking I spoke of is in the page to which I first linked. I regret that you did not review the entirety of the page, which I would have thought would have been expected under the circumstances. Also note how your rush to judgment regarding who a comment was "clearly" directed at is itself very likely wrong, or at least a rush to judgment regarding my motivations which is of course completely different from what I was thinking at the time. Perhaps you might take the time to review the entirety of pages linked to before casting rather poorly founded judgments. John Carter ( talk) 18:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have a question related to three sources Cwobeel had added to an article. The first in this edit and two more Edit one and Edit two. The trivial one-sentence or less mentions, without supporting evidence or analysis was used as evidence of Islamophobia now "fomenting Islamophobia" which does not match either. The claim is defamatory and it is being discussed, but Cwobeel and Coffeepusher asserted that because the source exists - it can be used in the lead and on the biography. Most interesting is the first source, which is essentially "Islamophobes Steven Emerson" and immediately states (the discredited "terrorism expert" who falsely identified Muslims as being behind the Oklahoma City bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh). The problem with the latter (sourced to Think Progress by the book) is that it is irrelvant, not in context or accurate. Though that's all the entire book states - never returning to Emerson at all. This was the source used to confirm and accuse Emerson of being a bigot.
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Atsme: has taken a bit of too far of stance on legitimate criticism, but made the first push to remove it. I consider it a BLP issue and a clear problem to call anyone or state they have been labeled a bigot in such a fashion. I dislike subjective conjecture or attacks about a person's beliefs as a "matter of fact", especially contentious ones. Pundits and political commentary or labels are the bane of BLPs and Wikipedia for this reason. Two POV pushers might balance an article to more or less neutral, but it will be a wall of "crap people said". Though the article has others which exist like : In response to these comments, British Prime Minister David Cameron said that he "choked on his porridge" when he heard them and observed that Emerson was "clearly a complete idiot".[68][69]
Is the sort of reactionary comments that are not appropriate for a biography, is not the same as accusing of being a bigot. I do not know how best to respond to these sourced, but improper usage of sources for controversy and reception surrounding a person. That being said, the "praise" is equally problematic and I rather be done with the "reception" section as a whole.
ChrisGualtieri (
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my repply
was erased.
Hi Sandstein,
I am not going to discuss why, but I'd ask you to add the
corresponding discussion's link to Nishidani's reference: "User:Igorp lj protested its lack of NPOV from the start".
Thanks in advance, --
Igorp_lj (
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00:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi--just realized that I should have told you about this AN/I report, given that the editor's grudge is against you, and it's easy enough to miss the notification that comes with wikilinking a username. Origamite ⓣ ⓒ 02:05, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I am out of town with no pc access until monday. Which is why this group chose this time to ambush me. I will respond then. But will say this. I never compared any editor to a child rapist. The accusers took that among other things i said out of context and misreported them. Same with the shovel comment its a figure of speech from the military, another reason for their enmity. The discussion was about source material. As in published authors on the subject and the subject was the technical aspect of firearms. Read that entire conversation before passing judgement as well as the other diffs they cherry picked. Sorry to put you folks through this, glad they didnt bring up the time i broke that lamp in 1973, respectfully -- mike searson (no tildes on my phone)
I was a bit curious and didn't quite have time to address this issue, but what was the reason behind Involuntary celibacy's DRV closure as disallow recreation? Upon reviewing the debate, the outcome was 6 - 8 in favor of disallow, however, I can't find a policy based rational for disallowing recreation. I was wondering if you could take a look at this article and let me know if you see any reason why this does not pass WP:N. If not I was hoping for permission to recreate with immediate nomination for AfD I feel it will pass. Valoem talk contrib 21:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
Knowledgekid87 (
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19:46, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
[6] I agree with your rationale. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 18:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that arbitration enforcement is not mandatory and the arbcom never meant for us to not be able to consider each situation individually. You action in regards to the complaint against Eric goes directly against the consensus that was forming there. You took it upon yourself to ignore the opinions of others, cast a supervote and act unilaterally and then close the discussion. I think you know how Eric will react to this and I think this action was not in the best interest of the encyclopedia. I am not going to fight this action however I felt like voicing my opinion. Chillum 22:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Noted. Please continue any discussions among people who are not me elsewhere. Sandstein 15:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC) |
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You are a disgrace to Wikipedia. If there was a way to desysop you, I would wholeheartedly pursue it. A proverbial admin on a power trip that cannot see further from the nose. Not that its founder is much better. No such user ( talk) 22:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm not "accepting" any awards, but I can't prevent editors leaving them on my talk page, much like I can't prevent you from offering your opinion. I have not examined the conduct of Lightbreather because my activity here is limited to arbitration enforcement, and no claim of misconduct by Lightbreather that falls under any arbitration remedies or discretionary sanctions has been made, and so I have no opinion as to whether her conduct might have been objectionable. If you think that there is such misconduct, you or anybody else can make an enforcement request at WP:AE. If not, Cassianto and Knowledgekid87, I ask that you please conduct any further discussion between you two elsewhere. Thanks, Sandstein 14:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@Cassianto. Lightbreather's behaviour, and who is now behaving like a fucking victim; let's not forget, it was her who waived the bait under Eric's nose LB is a woman. To suggest that she is behaving ( Personal attack removed) is a grotesque PA. You are the one who is baiting. yes men who don't know their arse from their elbow This is grossly uncivil, and, I believe, the number of admins at AE is small enough for this to be considered a PA. Behave yourself. OrangesRyellow ( talk) 15:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks. I appreciate that. Sandstein 22:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC) |
Disregarding it and warning Lightbreather aside, I disagree with such a use of barnstars. Blocks are not to be celebrated. They may be solemnly endorsed, but to celebrate them is to forget their true nature: they are like the scar left behind when cutting a disruptive branch off a tree, and no one would argue that such scars are anything but ugly and that the tree would not scream if it had a voice. ekips 39 17:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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One of the truest tests of integrity is its blunt refusal to be compromised.
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Sandstein, the link you supplied on Cwobeel's webpage to the AE discussion doesn't work. The link you provided ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=WP:AE&oldid=643973454#Cwobeel) ) just gives a bad gateway error. I believe the link you're looking for is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Result_concerning_Cwobeel. KoshVorlon Je Suis Charlie 18:46, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Interactions at GGTF/Proposed decision#Eric Corbett prohibited: "Eric Corbett agrees to a restriction prohibiting him from shouting at, swearing at, insulting and/or belittling other editors. The restriction comes into immediate effect on the passing of this motion." Yesterday, he made these comments that I think constitute "insulting and/or belittling other editors": "Lightbreather isn't what she appears to be, and no doubt she'll be exposed in time. As for Sandstein, he's a one-off hopefully" and " Do you really believe that editor retention is a priority for the likes of Sandstein?" Today, he has called an editor "filth". Rationalobserver ( talk) 19:01, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Please do not use this talk page to settle disagreements among other editors. Sandstein 22:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Please do not use this talk page to settle disagreements among other editors. Sandstein 14:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Possible, but not needed. Sandstein 15:08, 28 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Sandstein: one regrettable result of your block of Eric Corbett was that OrangesRyellow made a personal attack on Cassianto here on your user talk page. Since the former has not edited since and the best time for them to strike it out as based on a misunderstanding has thus passed, could I ask you to please do the decent thing and revdelete it? I don't believe it would be proper for me or another admin to do so, and hatting is insufficient for something so hurtful. I pinged you at AN/I suggesting this as a step towards reducing the current ill feeling, but being me, I messed up the ping template. Yngvadottir ( talk) 00:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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HJ Mitchell had left this message on my talk page. Is that the way it is enforced? Am I topic banned now? I want to clarify, AE was not a retaliation and I would have used it before if I knew it existed. At most, it was a mistake by a newbie. I am looking forward to your advice. Ashtul ( talk) 05:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
An editor is attempting a block review at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Review of Block on Cwobeel. I do not know if AN is the proper place, but I posted the evidence and corrected a false claim made by the OP. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 02:40, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Cla68 appeared to lay low in the last week of GamerGate to avoid the same fate as TDA. As of today, though, he came back and started in with MONGO again. You were the last person to warn him and was wondering if this appears to be an extension of what you warned against or a completely new issue. Thanks. -- DHeyward ( talk) 01:51, 30 January 2015 (UTC)