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Hello first I would like to thank you for your interest on Servetus. I do not really know much about templates, but I saw that template was suggested for deletion. I don't know why. And my second question is if there is a way of creating a template infobox for physician & theologian. Those were the two main fields he was outstanding in. Thanks for your advice.-- Anatoly Ilych Belousov ( talk) 19:00, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
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Greetings! Please forgive it taking me a week since your edit to commence this discussion. The reason I undid your adding of "Protestants" to the "Accepted by" list is simply that the list already contains "Anglicans", "Calvinists", and "Lutherans"; admittedly, this is not an exhaustive list of Protestants, but methinks that if "Protestants" should remain in the list, then these groups of Protestants should be removed from the list; it's having both that I deemed a "superfluous redundancy". Soon I'll be adding some text to the article (as I've added and edited somewhat in the past) and I'd like your consensus of what should be done before I proceed or, at very least, not intertwine this issue with the unrelated edits I intend to make. I thank you, Vincent J. Lipsio ( talk) 11:02, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I was working on two things (RS noticeboard) and the page simultaneously. I meant to place the Christ Myth section under Islam, as is proper (historical order etc.) then got distracted writing a note to the RS board, and lost my copy of the subsection I was to post in the Docetic page. Thanks for noticing that and beating me to restoring it. I'll do the edit now. Nishidani ( talk) 18:45, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing my mistake on the Christianity page. I did think about the connotations of the word 'illuminate' but I didn't realise it had a theological connotation too. How is it used in the theological context? Jainsworth16 ( talk) 15:42, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Would you, please, take a look at User:Vejlefjord/Theodicy and the Bible (3rd draft) and give me your opinion? I want a draft good enough to “go live” without being deleted or userfied so that other editors, perhaps you, can make it a better article. Do you think the draft is good enough for this purpose? Do you have specific suggestions that you think would make it better? I am unable to do much more work on the draft. Thank you. I will check back here next weekend. Vejlefjord ( talk) 02:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
One of the things I have noticed over the years is the long term effect of wiki-arguments, regardless of who wins the debate. We have seen too many of these now. That was a good user, but would argue passionately. He would sometimes win, sometimes lose, but in the end the bitterness left by the arguments "piles up". After a while it just gets to much and the retired banner appears. There are strategies for not letting that get to you, but that is a longer story.
My advice would be not to get worked up about the use of the Aramaic, make a deal halfway and move on. What you can do is agree to have it in the Etymology section with a qualifier that there are no first century documents that include it and what there is based on the "reasoning of scholars". That will clarify it. Then it does not need to appear in the lede.
I do not really care which way that inclusion goes (nor will 99% of other readers) but I think it would be best if you do not let it weigh on your heart either way. History2007 ( talk) 08:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I think I have started to agree with you, as stated here now. History2007 ( talk) 10:52, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Please forgive me for the improper tone and attitude concerning the tags assigned by you to the corporate election article. The defensive posture I took was unnecessary. I should have just asked for examples. I made a change to that post and noted my apologies to you in the comments box. While I see the validity in a couple of your examples (and will seek to make the proper corrections as I have time), I will need your patience in helping me to better understand the validity in the others. Thank you ClassArm ( talk) 19:54, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Please let me know your thoughts on my reply at my talk page. Cheers. Spicemix ( talk) 17:37, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Well done, thank you. Geĸrίtzl ( talk) 00:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi, While removing some product links that were obviously spam, I also removed the link at The Gospel According to John (Pillar New Testament Commentary), because it was simply a commercial page for ordering the book for $497.25. Yet you reverted it back with the edit summary, "Link was a legitimate reference from a company who does not sell this book." I'm confused. That link clearly doesn't qualify as a Reliable Source, so it appears to me to be entirely promotional. A reliable source would be a newspaper or magazine article about the book. Thanks, First Light ( talk) 05:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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We had a very lengthy discussion about this, were I, after vehement rejection to inclusion of name in any other languages except Greek from your side, conceded to your awkward and poor arguments. If you have changed your mind and you think we should include Hebrew, two Arabic, Latin, etc. then start a new discussion and stop reverting revert.-- Rafy talk 13:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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Was there any particular reason you added a tag on Matt Chandler (pastor) asking for an expert in Calvinism? St Anselm ( talk) 20:40, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
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I've just discovered something. Fields in infoboxes only work with lower case letters - this edit wiped out the infobox. St Anselm ( talk) 20:37, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
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The material I added to Calvinism here did not include a citation in the Lutheranism lead, presumably because it was not considered necessary. It struck me as subject-specific common knowledge ( WP:When to cite#When a source may not be needed). When I put "see that article's history for attribution" I'm following WP:COPYWITHIN#Proper attribution, and I'm talking about attribution for the actual copied WP material, not verification of it. If you don't think this is common knowledge, could you put a template:cn because I'm not going to be able to come up with citations right away, but I think this is important information to have in the lead? JFHutson ( talk) 17:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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I think if we just do not respond to the persistent talk page fellow he may go away. So I will not to answer him. The more we type the more he repeats the same... But books are not generally called peer reviewed, so you may want to change that before another debate starts. WP:RS does not require books by professors to be peer reviewed in any case. History2007 ( talk) 19:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
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Greetings! Please forgive it taking me a week since your edit to commence this discussion. The reason I undid your adding of "Protestants" to the "Accepted by" list is simply that the list already contains "Anglicans", "Calvinists", and "Lutherans"; admittedly, this is not an exhaustive list of Protestants, but methinks that if "Protestants" should remain in the list, then these groups of Protestants should be removed from the list; it's having both that I deemed a "superfluous redundancy". Soon I'll be adding some text to the article (as I've added and edited somewhat in the past) and I'd like your consensus of what should be done before I proceed or, at very least, not intertwine this issue with the unrelated edits I intend to make. I thank you, Vincent J. Lipsio ( talk) 11:02, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I was working on two things (RS noticeboard) and the page simultaneously. I meant to place the Christ Myth section under Islam, as is proper (historical order etc.) then got distracted writing a note to the RS board, and lost my copy of the subsection I was to post in the Docetic page. Thanks for noticing that and beating me to restoring it. I'll do the edit now. Nishidani ( talk) 18:45, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing my mistake on the Christianity page. I did think about the connotations of the word 'illuminate' but I didn't realise it had a theological connotation too. How is it used in the theological context? Jainsworth16 ( talk) 15:42, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Would you, please, take a look at User:Vejlefjord/Theodicy and the Bible (3rd draft) and give me your opinion? I want a draft good enough to “go live” without being deleted or userfied so that other editors, perhaps you, can make it a better article. Do you think the draft is good enough for this purpose? Do you have specific suggestions that you think would make it better? I am unable to do much more work on the draft. Thank you. I will check back here next weekend. Vejlefjord ( talk) 02:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
One of the things I have noticed over the years is the long term effect of wiki-arguments, regardless of who wins the debate. We have seen too many of these now. That was a good user, but would argue passionately. He would sometimes win, sometimes lose, but in the end the bitterness left by the arguments "piles up". After a while it just gets to much and the retired banner appears. There are strategies for not letting that get to you, but that is a longer story.
My advice would be not to get worked up about the use of the Aramaic, make a deal halfway and move on. What you can do is agree to have it in the Etymology section with a qualifier that there are no first century documents that include it and what there is based on the "reasoning of scholars". That will clarify it. Then it does not need to appear in the lede.
I do not really care which way that inclusion goes (nor will 99% of other readers) but I think it would be best if you do not let it weigh on your heart either way. History2007 ( talk) 08:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I think I have started to agree with you, as stated here now. History2007 ( talk) 10:52, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Please forgive me for the improper tone and attitude concerning the tags assigned by you to the corporate election article. The defensive posture I took was unnecessary. I should have just asked for examples. I made a change to that post and noted my apologies to you in the comments box. While I see the validity in a couple of your examples (and will seek to make the proper corrections as I have time), I will need your patience in helping me to better understand the validity in the others. Thank you ClassArm ( talk) 19:54, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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Well done, thank you. Geĸrίtzl ( talk) 00:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi, While removing some product links that were obviously spam, I also removed the link at The Gospel According to John (Pillar New Testament Commentary), because it was simply a commercial page for ordering the book for $497.25. Yet you reverted it back with the edit summary, "Link was a legitimate reference from a company who does not sell this book." I'm confused. That link clearly doesn't qualify as a Reliable Source, so it appears to me to be entirely promotional. A reliable source would be a newspaper or magazine article about the book. Thanks, First Light ( talk) 05:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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We had a very lengthy discussion about this, were I, after vehement rejection to inclusion of name in any other languages except Greek from your side, conceded to your awkward and poor arguments. If you have changed your mind and you think we should include Hebrew, two Arabic, Latin, etc. then start a new discussion and stop reverting revert.-- Rafy talk 13:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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I think if we just do not respond to the persistent talk page fellow he may go away. So I will not to answer him. The more we type the more he repeats the same... But books are not generally called peer reviewed, so you may want to change that before another debate starts. WP:RS does not require books by professors to be peer reviewed in any case. History2007 ( talk) 19:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)